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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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December 08, 2022, 11:25:27 AM
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Age is one thing that no football player can avoid. Ronaldo has entered old age, he can't contribute like when he was still at the peak of his career. Ten Hag doesn't dislike Ronaldo, the coach must prioritize the team rather than imposing the will of a player. We have to look realistically at the case that happened to Ronaldo with Manchester United, Ten Hag's decision to trust other players to be included in the main squad because the tactics used required Ronaldo to be on the bench.
Ronaldo is a great player, but not always great players can look great on the field. Hopefully after Ronaldo's time with Manchester United ends he will soon get a new club that values his existence more by giving him more minutes to play.
Many players are trying to escape their current age and are no longer able to be at their best level of performance, the same as experienced by Cristiano Ronaldo at the age of 37 years, I think it's normal for Erik Tan Hag not to prioritize the main position in his playing scheme. Its seems Ronaldo not happy with Erik Tan Hag not priority with his position as regular player and almost games put him in the bench, right now Cristiano Ronaldo faced the same problem with his national team in World Cup 2022 after last match he has been in the bench until became substitutes player at 75th minutes.

No doubt with Cristiano Ronaldo is great player and have several awesome record made, but due his age over 37 years old I don't think with his opportunity can get regular position every week.

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December 08, 2022, 11:40:18 AM
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Many players are trying to escape their current age and are no longer able to be at their best level of performance, the same as experienced by Cristiano Ronaldo at the age of 37 years, I think it's normal for Erik Tan Hag not to prioritize the main position in his playing scheme. Its seems Ronaldo not happy with Erik Tan Hag not priority with his position as regular player and almost games put him in the bench, right now Cristiano Ronaldo faced the same problem with his national team in World Cup 2022 after last match he has been in the bench until became substitutes player at 75th minutes.

No doubt with Cristiano Ronaldo is great player and have several awesome record made, but due his age over 37 years old I don't think with his opportunity can get regular position every week.
Everyone knows that Ronaldo has lost the peak of his career because he is getting old. He can still play well and contribute to the victory of any team, but it is clear that his current form is very different from before. Ten Hag and other coaches know what they have to do with a player like Ronaldo, but Ronaldo still feels capable of playing at a high level despite his declining form due to his age.

In fact, I see that he was not the coach's first choice when Portugal beat Switzerland in the round of 16. That means that Ronaldo really has to sit on the bench a lot and provide more opportunities for other players.

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December 08, 2022, 11:41:52 AM
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I don't know if United are very happy with United at the moment. He had a very bad start to the competition by losing 2 games in a row, that's 6 points against significantly lesser opponents. If you had won those 2 games, the world would have looked very different of course. But if, that doesn't count. He will have to move up in the 2nd half of the competition, because it is more negative than positive how United have played football so far. The game against Liverpool was won, but Liverpool were not at their best. United is the only team to have beaten leader Arsenal, still a bright spot.

Regardless of anything, Manchester United's success in stopping Arsenal's winning streak this season is an achievement that should be appreciate. Next I'm really looking forward to the debut of Manchester United vs Manchester City next January. The meet between the two clubs will present an exciting sensation considering that Manchester City is one of Arsenal's main enemies in the race for the EPL title, while Manchester United is the first team to give Arsenal defeat.

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December 08, 2022, 11:53:55 AM
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Liverpool has so many great players that can substitute the injured players and how can you think that was badly affecting the performance from liverpool? liverpool already prepared some new players to be bought and this to make sure the squads has some great players to be used.

Actually Livepool has a number of players who are able to bring their team to competition. But their performance was completely beyond expectations, The Red started the season very badly. The loss of Mane shouldn't have been so affected, but in fact, at the moment, almost all of Liverpool's players are not at their true level. Klopp will have to overhaul his squad if he is to remain respected, with a number of new players urgently needed to be brought in in the January window to make up for a shortfall that is starting to look worrying. The wing-back sector needs to be totally evaluated, because Alexander and Robertson are no longer able to contribute as well as they used to and Mohammed Salah is also starting to show his selfishness so that the front lines don't look so cohesive either.
I forgot to read where, but the Liverpool coach admitted that he miscalculated this season by letting Mane leave Liverpool he thought the existing players were enough to back up all without leaving a gap but apparently not especially the appearance of their defense was not very good this season, but slowly they have improved and on transfermark there will be new players they will sign to make them even better to be able to end the season by being in the champions league spot

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December 08, 2022, 12:21:14 PM
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Ronaldo would not have left Manchester United if United management and Ten Hag had not neglected Ronaldo. Ronaldo's conflict with Ten Hag was quite visible. Ten Hag has been given a place in the squad of players who are less skilled than Ronaldo. Even then, he did not give Ronaldo a chance to play. And because of such neglect and humiliation, Ronaldo was forced to leave the team. I am very happy that Ronaldo has left the team.
Age is one thing that no football player can avoid. Ronaldo has entered old age, he can't contribute like when he was still at the peak of his career. Ten Hag doesn't dislike Ronaldo, the coach must prioritize the team rather than imposing the will of a player. We have to look realistically at the case that happened to Ronaldo with Manchester United, Ten Hag's decision to trust other players to be included in the main squad because the tactics used required Ronaldo to be on the bench.
Ronaldo is a great player, but not always great players can look great on the field. Hopefully after Ronaldo's time with Manchester United ends he will soon get a new club that values his existence more by giving him more minutes to play.
Ronaldo is the best football player to ever play, thus Teg Hag's contempt wasn't appropriate. The worst aspect is how Ronaldo was treated—he was treated like a no-body. Regardless of how he performed, Ronaldo gave it his all and deserves greater recognition. He won the UTD Best Player award last year, but this year he struggled with family concerns and other difficulties that had an impact on his performance. I assumed the coach would comprehend him. He was mistreating him, though. He was busy benching him, and the annoying aspect was that he made comparisons between Ronaldo and young lads who had made no progress in football.
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December 08, 2022, 12:24:58 PM
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Regardless of anything, Manchester United's success in stopping Arsenal's winning streak this season is an achievement that should be appreciate. Next I'm really looking forward to the debut of Manchester United vs Manchester City next January. The meet between the two clubs will present an exciting sensation considering that Manchester City is one of Arsenal's main enemies in the race for the EPL title, while Manchester United is the first team to give Arsenal defeat.

Yeah that's something that hurts us a lot going back on how Arsenal have been going so far. Still we have been going strong since then and have avoided much upsets in the season far. Will hope Arsenal continue this consistency back again when league resumes after the World cup.

About United and City Derby game, will expect United to beat City as that will become better for us extending the gap. I don't know but United somehow plays great football against big clubs. In their first game against City they faced quite some defeat and will be looking for revenge so possible that United might be able to City in their next fixture whenever it happens.
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December 08, 2022, 12:40:31 PM
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I don't know if United are very happy with United at the moment. He had a very bad start to the competition by losing 2 games in a row, that's 6 points against significantly lesser opponents. If you had won those 2 games, the world would have looked very different of course. But if, that doesn't count. He will have to move up in the 2nd half of the competition, because it is more negative than positive how United have played football so far. The game against Liverpool was won, but Liverpool were not at their best. United is the only team to have beaten leader Arsenal, still a bright spot.

Regardless of anything, Manchester United's success in stopping Arsenal's winning streak this season is an achievement that should be appreciate. Next I'm really looking forward to the debut of Manchester United vs Manchester City next January. The meet between the two clubs will present an exciting sensation considering that Manchester City is one of Arsenal's main enemies in the race for the EPL title, while Manchester United is the first team to give Arsenal defeat.
Regardless of them being contenders and who beat Arsenal, this Manchester Derby clash is one to look forward to. Manchester City is relatively new compared to Manchester United, but their abilities have been able to increase rapidly. Prestige is definitely in this match and they don't want to be beaten by each other. This match will be held at Manchester United's headquarters, Old Trafford. Man U doesn't want them to be humiliated in front of their own public.

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December 08, 2022, 12:50:15 PM
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Brighton haven't been doing well since Graham Potter left the team. They have played 8 matches with De Zerbi's management so far in the league. They won only twice and lost 4 of them. They got those wins in their last a few matches actually but this is still not a promising form at all. Of course there will be some adaptation process to a new manager. But if Potter stayed I believe they would have a much better run in the rest of the season as well. Potter's game plan was running like clockwork there unlike at Chelsea.
He hasn't been able to make it work with Chelsea much yet. They have got so many negative results due to being unproductive in most of the matches. Potter is making a lot of money now of course. It is one of the most valuable contracts for a manager in history. But if he doesn't manage to make this team play stronger until the end of the season he might not be tolerated as much as Tuchel. Because Tuchel had very successful times with the team and his departure was due to a completely different reason.
I think the team is still going through that adjustment phase, the coach, staff and even the players are battling to settle in with the atmosphere, the new faces and as well new philosophies and with time if the Club permits they will get through it. The team is gradually picking up momentum and getting back their balance and form which shows good signs of a better future for Chelsea and Potter.

Brighton have not been consistent. But they would certainly say that they are doing well because they are ahead of Chelsea in the table  Cheesy.

Jokes apart, the way Brighton are playing right now, I think they have a chance of finishing in the top five or six if they can be a little more consistent. But the exact reason why Brighton is so likely to be happy is the same reason Chelsea should be unhappy. There is no way Chelsea is performing this badly. The new coach was brought in for improvement. Honestly, I don’t see any improvement. And I don’t know if there is going to be any, to be honest.

Potter is brought in as the new coach and I think they are planning to try to give him the money that he asks for to manage the team. So, my question is why did they not give that money to Tuchel?

Wouldn’t it have been better to let the players play under the same management and try to improve the squad instead of making the players get used to a whole another tactic by a whole new coach?

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December 08, 2022, 01:15:54 PM
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The reason why Liverpool's form dropped this much should be some mental problems. Of course they faced some injuries and had many missing players as a result. Diaz was one of them and we all know how important he is for the team now. He is trying to do his best to fill Mane's place in the team. His performance so far has already been impressive.
I think that liverpool didn't get mental problem. It can win against a big team. That proves that if the mental from liverpool was still good at this moment. The problem is when it comes to the inconsistent performance. Liverpool has capability to win against any big team in EPL but sometime it has a very bad performance during the match against the big club.
I think that liverpool didn't have mental problem for sure. the only problem that faced by liverpool was inconsistentcy with its performance.
What is clear is that at this time Mane position is still irreplaceable, Diaz and Nunez are still beyond expectations, that Liverpool still need aggressive players and have attacking instincts as well as being proficient in assists. Look at Nunez performance at the World Cup, just as he can't give his best. It still takes time for Nunez maybe 2 to 3 years he will be greater. But for now Liverpool needs a new player who can collaborate with Moh Salah on the front lines. Because Liverpool's attack structure is still ineffective.

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December 08, 2022, 02:01:58 PM
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What is clear is that at this time Mane position is still irreplaceable, Diaz and Nunez are still beyond expectations, that Liverpool still need aggressive players and have attacking instincts as well as being proficient in assists. Look at Nunez performance at the World Cup, just as he can't give his best. It still takes time for Nunez maybe 2 to 3 years he will be greater. But for now Liverpool needs a new player who can collaborate with Moh Salah on the front lines. Because Liverpool's attack structure is still ineffective.

True, but 2 -3 years is too long. Maybe Klopp can add him as a loan player if he wants to keep him. That was because Nunez was only 23 years old, there was still a chance he could get better. This situation is certainly detrimental to Liverpool because Nunez's transfer is quite expensive.

Nunez's performance at the World Cup was also bad, in fact they had to go home immediately because they didn't qualify for the group phase. But looking at the world cup, Nunez played a lot wide to support Suarez and Cavani.

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December 08, 2022, 02:37:34 PM
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Bookmakers see the chances of teams like this:

Manchester city 1.44

Arsenal 3.50

And I think that even if Haaland gets injured or abruptly leaves for Real in the winter, nothing will change. I think that everything will end as such situations usually end - the favorite will gradually overtake the weaker challenger. Therefore, 1.44 actually looks very tempting. Maybe I should bet - because I will still be insured (I will be very happy if City does not become a champion  Grin ).
Maybe that considering Arsenal haven't won in the last 5 matches against Manchester City, the Bookmakers set low odds for City and are the favorites in that match, you're right 1.44 is actually quite tempting also for a possibility of winning City is high. But I personally wouldn't be too sure to place a bet on City, after all Arsenal won't lose easily even without G.Jesus.

I don't place bets like this mainly because of the waiting time - I don't like waiting too long to see if my bet works. Plus, I think during the season we will see games where it will be possible to choose either a simple victory for City with such odds or with a handicap of -1 goal. It's easier to make such a bet and hope that everything goes without surprises than to wait for the end of the season.

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December 08, 2022, 03:00:08 PM
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Bookmakers see the chances of teams like this:

Manchester city 1.44

Arsenal 3.50

And I think that even if Haaland gets injured or abruptly leaves for Real in the winter, nothing will change. I think that everything will end as such situations usually end - the favorite will gradually overtake the weaker challenger. Therefore, 1.44 actually looks very tempting. Maybe I should bet - because I will still be insured (I will be very happy if City does not become a champion  Grin ).
Actually, for betting who will be at the top at the end, I'm not too interested in that because it really takes a long time and I don't really like to wait that long.
But I agree with what you said because the favorite team will usually catch up sooner or later even though they are currently at the bottom.
this seems to be a certainty because usually they have sufficient resources both in terms of finance and team quality so that slowly when they find better performance it is clear that there is still a big chance of catching up.

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December 08, 2022, 03:02:37 PM
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What is clear is that at this time Mane position is still irreplaceable, Diaz and Nunez are still beyond expectations, that Liverpool still need aggressive players and have attacking instincts as well as being proficient in assists. Look at Nunez performance at the World Cup, just as he can't give his best. It still takes time for Nunez maybe 2 to 3 years he will be greater. But for now Liverpool needs a new player who can collaborate with Moh Salah on the front lines. Because Liverpool's attack structure is still ineffective.
Nunes is still too young, and Klopp brought him into the team with the prospect, he needs more time. But I can’t say that Mane was an indispensable player for Liverpool, he did a lot of work and constantly kept the opposition’s defense in suspense, but he was not the one that the team was afraid of losing. By the way, in Bavaria, he plays in the same manner.

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I forgot to read where, but the Liverpool coach admitted that he miscalculated this season by letting Mane leave Liverpool he thought the existing players were enough to back up all without leaving a gap but apparently not especially the appearance of their defense was not very good this season, but slowly they have improved and on transfermark there will be new players they will sign to make them even better to be able to end the season by being in the champions league spot
Isn't it that sooner or later this will be felt, because previously when that happened many fans didn't like the higher-ups there because they didn't agree on a contract renewal with Mane who asked for a salary on the grounds that it was too high for Mane's quality.
But this has happened and they have to start moving again rather than continue to make this a shadow better they have to look for a few more players from now on to improve Liverpool's performance later.

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What is clear is that at this time Mane position is still irreplaceable, Diaz and Nunez are still beyond expectations, that Liverpool still need aggressive players and have attacking instincts as well as being proficient in assists. Look at Nunez performance at the World Cup, just as he can't give his best. It still takes time for Nunez maybe 2 to 3 years he will be greater. But for now Liverpool needs a new player who can collaborate with Moh Salah on the front lines. Because Liverpool's attack structure is still ineffective.
Nunes is still too young, and Klopp brought him into the team with the prospect, he needs more time. But I can’t say that Mane was an indispensable player for Liverpool, he did a lot of work and constantly kept the opposition’s defense in suspense, but he was not the one that the team was afraid of losing. By the way, in Bavaria, he plays in the same manner.
The discussion will be long if you compare 2 different players who play a role in one team, especially when these players replace the roles of players who leave. Nunez is a potential player, but his adaptation process is not so fast that his contribution to the team he is defending, namely Liverpool at this time, is invisible.
Jurgen Klopp took him to fill in the empty space not without reason, because he saw how well Nunez played while still at Benfica. But does he directly provide something extraordinary for Benfica? The answer is no, because in his first season he was not that aggressive in scoring goals or being a player to contribute to goals. In his first season with Benfica, he only scored 6 goals and 9 assists from the 29 games he played.

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Regardless of anything, Manchester United's success in stopping Arsenal's winning streak this season is an achievement that should be appreciate. Next I'm really looking forward to the debut of Manchester United vs Manchester City next January. The meet between the two clubs will present an exciting sensation considering that Manchester City is one of Arsenal's main enemies in the race for the EPL title, while Manchester United is the first team to give Arsenal defeat.

Yeah that's something that hurts us a lot going back on how Arsenal have been going so far. Still we have been going strong since then and have avoided much upsets in the season far. Will hope Arsenal continue this consistency back again when league resumes after the World cup.

About United and City Derby game, will expect United to beat City as that will become better for us extending the gap. I don't know but United somehow plays great football against big clubs. In their first game against City they faced quite some defeat and will be looking for revenge so possible that United might be able to City in their next fixture whenever it happens.

Truth be told, the performance of Manchester United did improve under the management of Ten hag and the win against Liverpool and the most consistent team in the English Premier League this season Arsenal shows that the team can play against any big and get a positive result. Arsenal's from this season is not surprising to me because looking at the players they have got you could see a lot of youthful age in them and the strength they have got can't be compared to some older players in some other teams in the league this season, and with the world cup almost coming to and end and the players of Arsenal are without injuries I think they will maintain their good form and most importantly the winning streak.

The derby game between Manchester United and Manchester City will be difficult for United to win because Haaland is feet likewise other big names in the team so united beating City will be a miracle unless the form seen in Rashford will give Manchester United an edge over City but I doubt if City will let that happen when they will be chasing Arsenal for the top spot.

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I don't know if United are very happy with United at the moment. He had a very bad start to the competition by losing 2 games in a row, that's 6 points against significantly lesser opponents. If you had won those 2 games, the world would have looked very different of course. But if, that doesn't count. He will have to move up in the 2nd half of the competition, because it is more negative than positive how United have played football so far. The game against Liverpool was won, but Liverpool were not at their best. United is the only team to have beaten leader Arsenal, still a bright spot.
Of course not, a team will never be happy if it hasn't won a title. Manchester United appearance at the start of the season was very annoying, but after Ten Hag came, Manchester United appearance slowly got better. Manchester United are still trying to add strength in several lines, transfer market activity will be used to bring in the desired players.
Ten Hag has become a lamp when Manchester United is in the dark, this season Man United strength has not been completely perfect, Ten Hag will make all Manchester United fans satisfied with the trophy that will be presented as a long-awaited prize.

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December 08, 2022, 04:24:21 PM
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squad in the national team and the club is different. even though the club has several players who play for the national team, it is not certain that they can make the game so strong. especially if with a different coach. Of course, many factors can influence a team to be very strong.
Bruno Fernandes has indeed shown very good quality in this world cup. and several players in the Premier League who defended their respective national teams also showed their abilities. some look better, and some just look normal.
I feel like he is good in United as well, not unlike the national team. Bruno fernandes always showed promises of being as good as Kevin De Bruyne and people still do not show him the respect that he deserves, before Ronaldo came in, he was playing at an elite level at the club and nearly considered the leader of the bunch, then Ronaldo showed up last year, and obviously got a bit more attention and we all forgot how good he was.

his is the same club that finished 2nd one year before, so they are not inherently bad somehow, they just had one bad season. All those players in the national teams play good, because United is a good club normally.

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December 08, 2022, 04:52:21 PM
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What is clear is that at this time Mane position is still irreplaceable, Diaz and Nunez are still beyond expectations, that Liverpool still need aggressive players and have attacking instincts as well as being proficient in assists. Look at Nunez performance at the World Cup, just as he can't give his best. It still takes time for Nunez maybe 2 to 3 years he will be greater. But for now Liverpool needs a new player who can collaborate with Moh Salah on the front lines. Because Liverpool's attack structure is still ineffective.

True, but 2 -3 years is too long. Maybe Klopp can add him as a loan player if he wants to keep him. That was because Nunez was only 23 years old, there was still a chance he could get better. This situation is certainly detrimental to Liverpool because Nunez's transfer is quite expensive.

Nunez's performance at the World Cup was also bad, in fact they had to go home immediately because they didn't qualify for the group phase. But looking at the world cup, Nunez played a lot wide to support Suarez and Cavani.

This can be honed again by Klopp as a coach to improve Nunez's performance on the field with Liverpool but if he is loaned to me it is not quite right even though it is still easy for Nunez at least he is still needed for Liverpool at the moment and indeed what we have seen Nunez has not shown anything what Mane wants, but when he was still at Bengica Nunez was quite good, it's just that he might need to adapt for a long time.

It's like that, Nunez and the national team can't perform well, just mediocre, this is almost the same as Liverpool and obviously the game is very different from Firmino or Mohamed Salah.

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December 08, 2022, 04:57:25 PM
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I don't know if United are very happy with United at the moment. He had a very bad start to the competition by losing 2 games in a row, that's 6 points against significantly lesser opponents. If you had won those 2 games, the world would have looked very different of course. But if, that doesn't count. He will have to move up in the 2nd half of the competition, because it is more negative than positive how United have played football so far. The game against Liverpool was won, but Liverpool were not at their best. United is the only team to have beaten leader Arsenal, still a bright spot.
Of course not, a team will never be happy if it hasn't won a title. Manchester United appearance at the start of the season was very annoying, but after Ten Hag came, Manchester United appearance slowly got better. Manchester United are still trying to add strength in several lines, transfer market activity will be used to bring in the desired players.
Ten Hag has become a lamp when Manchester United is in the dark, this season Man United strength has not been completely perfect, Ten Hag will make all Manchester United fans satisfied with the trophy that will be presented as a long-awaited prize.
Manchester United as a team might not be happy that they have not won trophy for a long period of time it is understandable because it is their business but for Manchester United fans all over the world what they would want to see is a good football and if they see trophy then it is good also for them. The current coach of Manchester United has made Manchester United matches worth watching, before now nobody would want to watch Manchester United match because even if they win or they lose it is a football of misery.

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