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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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December 08, 2022, 03:13:41 AM
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I don't really know why Liverpool are doing so poorly this season. Except for Mane, don't they have the same selection? Mo salah has a lesser period, maybe they depend too much on him. Maybe they should add a good striker in the winter period. Van Dijk has also had his best time. They score little in the front, but they are also vulnerable in the back. We have already seen in the CL against Napoli, but they have also lost several times in the PL against significantly lesser teams. That wouldn't have happened a few years ago.
Liverpool is not alone who perform badly in this season we have too many clubs, but good thing happen mostly settle their issues and starting on positive development before this break, but sadly Liverpool is still unable to have settled their issues and have winning form, but we can expect good start for them after break because now things are looking positive, and they need good and quality start if they want to have any chance for the top four position because without improvement this is not possible and if they fail to achieve their target than surely they can face more problems in next season.

After break, they have some good time for adjusting strategy because in February they are also having another big challenge to face Real Madrid, so things needs quick action for having better results.
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December 08, 2022, 03:22:26 AM
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Manchester United may have done better than Liverpool before the league break but Ronaldo departure will also affect their performance in the second half of the season. erik ten hag will move quickly to find a replacement for ronaldo position and hope they can get Leao or osimhen.
I don't think Ronaldo's departure will affect Manchester United's performance. In fact, Ronaldo has not contributed much to Manchester United this season. Coach Ten Hag knew very well that Ronaldo was not interested in staying at Manchester United. So he did not allow Ronaldo to mix with the team this season. He didn't give Ronaldo much of a chance to play. The Ten Hag have only used Ronaldo well this season in Europa League matches. And so Ronaldo leaving the team will not change the performance of Manchester United in the Premier League. However, Ten Hag is in dire need of an experienced striker this season.
It's true that the team will surely not affected by Ronaldo departure but im really sad about the way that he left the team with, he is one of the best players in the history of the team and seeing him leaving this way is really bad Even if you are not a fan for Manchester united, i really wished he retire in the old Trafford but unfortunately that's not what will happen

Ronaldo would not have left Manchester United if United management and Ten Hag had not neglected Ronaldo. Ronaldo's conflict with Ten Hag was quite visible. Ten Hag has been given a place in the squad of players who are less skilled than Ronaldo. Even then, he did not give Ronaldo a chance to play. And because of such neglect and humiliation, Ronaldo was forced to leave the team. I am very happy that Ronaldo has left the team.

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December 08, 2022, 04:23:18 AM
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The reason why Liverpool's form dropped this much should be some mental problems. Of course they faced some injuries and had many missing players as a result. Diaz was one of them and we all know how important he is for the team now. He is trying to do his best to fill Mane's place in the team. His performance so far has already been impressive.

However I don't think injury is not the main reason for this. Because they had really bad games in which they defended their opponents very poorly. Klopp needs to help the players improve their motivation. This squad are capable of doing anything they want. They just need some push.

I think, Liverpool coach will do something that will help the team to improve higher, because Liverpool president is not happy about the poor performance the team is experiencing from the beginning of this tournament, which their coach need to do something fast positive so that he will not experience sack letter. Liverpool will definitely improve after the FIFA world cup competition but it will be difficult for them to win premier league title, because some of the new players they signed in are not functioning the way fans expect them to function in this season.

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December 08, 2022, 04:32:26 AM
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Ronaldo would not have left Manchester United if United management and Ten Hag had not neglected Ronaldo. Ronaldo's conflict with Ten Hag was quite visible. Ten Hag has been given a place in the squad of players who are less skilled than Ronaldo. Even then, he did not give Ronaldo a chance to play. And because of such neglect and humiliation, Ronaldo was forced to leave the team. I am very happy that Ronaldo has left the team.
Ronaldo have agreement mutual contract deal with Manchester United after conflict happen between him and Erik Tan Hag, I think main problem faced by Ronaldo because his is not really happy start games in the bench. After wrong rumor about Ronaldo accepted offering from Al-Nassr FC right now have strong speculation with Ronaldo keep playing at European team.

Due have been over age I don't think have chance for Ronaldo easy get contract from top European team actually his performance in World Cup not really special with 1 goals from 4 matches, last match when Portugal won against with Switzerland, Ronaldo have play on 75th minutes and not including as starting eleven.

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December 08, 2022, 04:53:03 AM
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Ronaldo would not have left Manchester United if United management and Ten Hag had not neglected Ronaldo. Ronaldo's conflict with Ten Hag was quite visible. Ten Hag has been given a place in the squad of players who are less skilled than Ronaldo. Even then, he did not give Ronaldo a chance to play. And because of such neglect and humiliation, Ronaldo was forced to leave the team. I am very happy that Ronaldo has left the team.
Ronaldo have agreement mutual contract deal with Manchester United after conflict happen between him and Erik Tan Hag, I think main problem faced by Ronaldo because his is not really happy start games in the bench. After wrong rumor about Ronaldo accepted offering from Al-Nassr FC right now have strong speculation with Ronaldo keep playing at European team.

Due have been over age I don't think have chance for Ronaldo easy get contract from top European team actually his performance in World Cup not really special with 1 goals from 4 matches, last match when Portugal won against with Switzerland, Ronaldo have play on 75th minutes and not including as starting eleven.

Whatever Ronaldo's problems with Manchester United and Erik ten Hag, basically Ronaldo really wanted to leave Manchester United after failing to finish in the top four. After that, entering the new season and Erik ten Hag as coach, the reality is that when Ronaldo's condition and situation are no longer comfortable in the team, Erik ten Hag actually benches Ronaldo more often so it's only natural that Ronaldo's emotions can't be stopped at moments like that.
Also, when Portugal won big against Switzerland 6-1, Ronaldo's position was at least the same as what he experienced at Manchester United to be on the bench.

Factors like that will at least make Ronaldo's emotions maybe not okay again, with Ronaldo leaving Manchester United, of course it will make it difficult for him to get a new club.
Because as we have seen so far, at least the team can still win big without Ronaldo in the starting line-up, this proves that Ronaldo is no longer the main actor on the field. It will be interesting to wait, which big club will really be ready to risk spending big money to recruit Ronaldo later.

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December 08, 2022, 04:53:38 AM
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Ronaldo would not have left Manchester United if United management and Ten Hag had not neglected Ronaldo. Ronaldo's conflict with Ten Hag was quite visible. Ten Hag has been given a place in the squad of players who are less skilled than Ronaldo. Even then, he did not give Ronaldo a chance to play. And because of such neglect and humiliation, Ronaldo was forced to leave the team. I am very happy that Ronaldo has left the team.
Ronaldo have agreement mutual contract deal with Manchester United after conflict happen between him and Erik Tan Hag, I think main problem faced by Ronaldo because his is not really happy start games in the bench. After wrong rumor about Ronaldo accepted offering from Al-Nassr FC right now have strong speculation with Ronaldo keep playing at European team.

Due have been over age I don't think have chance for Ronaldo easy get contract from top European team actually his performance in World Cup not really special with 1 goals from 4 matches, last match when Portugal won against with Switzerland, Ronaldo have play on 75th minutes and not including as starting eleven.

@Bobrox this is not entirely true Ronaldo decided to skip preseason, then decided to turn up with his agent to force a move but when that didn’t work he decided to throw tantrums on the pitch.

Lastly show me one interview where ETH blasted Ronaldo or told him that he was not good enough to play for Manchester United rather he only kept on praising him, and helped him build his match fitness thus this exit was completely wrong on Ronaldo’s part.
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December 08, 2022, 04:58:28 AM
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Several reports say that at this time Diaz is recovering faster and it is hoped that he will be able to return after the international break is over.
I think this is good news again for Liverpool, especially with their condition which is not very good this season. On the other hand there are already a number of players they are eyeing on in this transfer and I'm pretty sure there will be some additions that will occur and they will not be as passive as before in this transfer.
Luis Díaz has started training again on the field and it is likely that he will return to competition again in the near future. What Luis Díaz needs to do is to keep training but maintain his health because so far Luis Díaz has not fully recovered and still needs good treatment. Luis Díaz has a young age as an attacker who is eagerly awaited by Liverpool to make a comeback.
I am glad to hear Diaz has return to training again after recover from his injured but probably he is still unavailable in the friendly matches against Lyon and AC Milan in Dubai and this indicated Liverpool have any chances to improved their performance after premier league starting again because Diaz is important player for Liverpool even i still believe when Liverpool was defeated by Arsenal several months ago it because Diaz was got injured on that match and if he didn't got injured i think the possibilities Liverpool to gets win result or at least draw is quite high at that time and after Diaz didn't playing Liverpool seems cannot performing well and lose several times against mediocre teams such as Leeds and Nottingham Forest

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December 08, 2022, 06:27:22 AM
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Manchester United players in the world cup have been performing so well, players like Rashford, Luke shaw, Harry Maguire, Martinez, have show positive signs of picking up form in the world cup which is good news and a boost for Ten Hag's side when the season resumes. This break should be a bounce back period for team who failed to impress before the world cup.

Brighton haven't been doing well since Graham Potter left the team. They have played 8 matches with De Zerbi's management so far in the league. They won only twice and lost 4 of them. They got those wins in their last a few matches actually but this is still not a promising form at all. Of course there will be some adaptation process to a new manager. But if Potter stayed I believe they would have a much better run in the rest of the season as well. Potter's game plan was running like clockwork there unlike at Chelsea.

He hasn't been able to make it work with Chelsea much yet. They have got so many negative results due to being unproductive in most of the matches. Potter is making a lot of money now of course. It is one of the most valuable contracts for a manager in history. But if he doesn't manage to make this team play stronger until the end of the season he might not be tolerated as much as Tuchel. Because Tuchel had very successful times with the team and his departure was due to a completely different reason.
I think the team is still going through that adjustment phase, the coach, staff and even the players are battling to settle in with the atmosphere, the new faces and as well new philosophies and with time if the Club permits they will get through it. The team is gradually picking up momentum and getting back their balance and form which shows good signs of a better future for Chelsea and Potter.
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Actually Liverpool is well rounded club, the unique from the strikers in Liverpool is the winger position has a sense to score a goal, not helping the center forward for finishing. This is why Salah really need a center forward who can help him to score, if all of the strikers are finisher, it will much harder to make a goal since there's no player can give a good short and long pass.

Salah can play on center forward, but he's way better when he play on right winger position.
Mohammed Salah has always been very suitable to be on the right wing and that makes it easier to dribble balls into the opponent's defense, he has enough speed to compete with opposing defenders. Jurgen Klopp still seems confident in the performance of Darwin Nunez as a center striker, even though we know he hasn't been able to do much for Liverpool even in this world cup competition he played very badly for Uruguay.

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Manchester United players in the world cup have been performing so well, players like Rashford, Luke shaw, Harry Maguire, Martinez, have show positive signs of picking up form in the world cup which is good news and a boost for Ten Hag's side when the season resumes. This break should be a bounce back period for team who failed to impress before the world cup.

You left out one of Manchester United's World Cup stars, Bruno Fernandes, who has excelled in the midfield this year. In this World Cup, his playing style has greatly improved. If Manchester United team can replicate what other players like you mentioned earlier are playing in the World Cup into their primary league after the World Cup, then every club will not want to play against them because of how strong the team will be and cannot be easily breakthrough.

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Manchester United players in the world cup have been performing so well, players like Rashford, Luke shaw, Harry Maguire, Martinez, have show positive signs of picking up form in the world cup which is good news and a boost for Ten Hag's side when the season resumes. This break should be a bounce back period for team who failed to impress before the world cup.

You left out one of Manchester United's World Cup stars, Bruno Fernandes, who has excelled in the midfield this year. In this World Cup, his playing style has greatly improved. If Manchester United team can replicate what other players like you mentioned earlier are playing in the World Cup into their primary league after the World Cup, then every club will not want to play against them because of how strong the team will be and cannot be easily breakthrough.
squad in the national team and the club is different. even though the club has several players who play for the national team, it is not certain that they can make the game so strong. especially if with a different coach. Of course, many factors can influence a team to be very strong.
Bruno Fernandes has indeed shown very good quality in this world cup. and several players in the Premier League who defended their respective national teams also showed their abilities. some look better, and some just look normal.



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December 08, 2022, 07:28:53 AM
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Manchester United players in the world cup have been performing so well, players like Rashford, Luke shaw, Harry Maguire, Martinez, have show positive signs of picking up form in the world cup which is good news and a boost for Ten Hag's side when the season resumes. This break should be a bounce back period for team who failed to impress before the world cup.

You left out one of Manchester United's World Cup stars, Bruno Fernandes, who has excelled in the midfield this year. In this World Cup, his playing style has greatly improved. If Manchester United team can replicate what other players like you mentioned earlier are playing in the World Cup into their primary league after the World Cup, then every club will not want to play against them because of how strong the team will be and cannot be easily breakthrough.

Well Bruno Fernandes found the right friend in the National team and he didn't find it in the club after all there is no guarantee he will do well even if Manchester signs the same player sometimes the motivation to play with the team in the club is different from playing with the national team like what Ronaldo did.

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December 08, 2022, 08:43:07 AM
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Ronaldo would not have left Manchester United if United management and Ten Hag had not neglected Ronaldo. Ronaldo's conflict with Ten Hag was quite visible. Ten Hag has been given a place in the squad of players who are less skilled than Ronaldo. Even then, he did not give Ronaldo a chance to play. And because of such neglect and humiliation, Ronaldo was forced to leave the team. I am very happy that Ronaldo has left the team.
Ronaldo have agreement mutual contract deal with Manchester United after conflict happen between him and Erik Tan Hag, I think main problem faced by Ronaldo because his is not really happy start games in the bench. After wrong rumor about Ronaldo accepted offering from Al-Nassr FC right now have strong speculation with Ronaldo keep playing at European team.

Due have been over age I don't think have chance for Ronaldo easy get contract from top European team actually his performance in World Cup not really special with 1 goals from 4 matches, last match when Portugal won against with Switzerland, Ronaldo have play on 75th minutes and not including as starting eleven.

@Bobrox this is not entirely true Ronaldo decided to skip preseason, then decided to turn up with his agent to force a move but when that didn’t work he decided to throw tantrums on the pitch.

Lastly show me one interview where ETH blasted Ronaldo or told him that he was not good enough to play for Manchester United rather he only kept on praising him, and helped him build his match fitness thus this exit was completely wrong on Ronaldo’s part.
From my own point of view Erik Ten Hag should also share part of the blamed in the recent face-off between them for assuring Ronaldo that he is in his plan for this season unfortunately not playing him regularly, he should have allowed him to move elsewhere during the transfer window just like Paul Pogba, Matic e.t.c, as a highly rated player who had won Ballon d'Or shouldn't be seated on the bench and wouldn't feel comfortable with it thus prompted his burst up the manager and the board, though Ronaldo has some disciplinary issue he was a bit arrogant with his attitude and behavior which he had been displaying publicly.

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Manchester United players in the world cup have been performing so well, players like Rashford, Luke shaw, Harry Maguire, Martinez, have show positive signs of picking up form in the world cup which is good news and a boost for Ten Hag's side when the season resumes. This break should be a bounce back period for team who failed to impress before the world cup.

You left out one of Manchester United's World Cup stars, Bruno Fernandes, who has excelled in the midfield this year. In this World Cup, his playing style has greatly improved. If Manchester United team can replicate what other players like you mentioned earlier are playing in the World Cup into their primary league after the World Cup, then every club will not want to play against them because of how strong the team will be and cannot be easily breakthrough.

Well Bruno Fernandes found the right friend in the National team and he didn't find it in the club after all there is no guarantee he will do well even if Manchester signs the same player sometimes the motivation to play with the team in the club is different from playing with the national team like what Ronaldo did.
All the Manchester united players that are doing great in world cup, I attribute the success to the coach of Manchester United. If Manchester United didn't have a new coach and they were struggling before the World Cup I doubt many of them wouldn't have been called up and the ones that are called up wouldn't have performed very well. It is because Eric has change the mentality of players, change those that are lazy to be very vibrant that is why you are seeing Manchester united players doing well in the World Cup

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December 08, 2022, 09:26:52 AM
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Ronaldo would not have left Manchester United if United management and Ten Hag had not neglected Ronaldo. Ronaldo's conflict with Ten Hag was quite visible. Ten Hag has been given a place in the squad of players who are less skilled than Ronaldo. Even then, he did not give Ronaldo a chance to play. And because of such neglect and humiliation, Ronaldo was forced to leave the team. I am very happy that Ronaldo has left the team.
Age is one thing that no football player can avoid. Ronaldo has entered old age, he can't contribute like when he was still at the peak of his career. Ten Hag doesn't dislike Ronaldo, the coach must prioritize the team rather than imposing the will of a player. We have to look realistically at the case that happened to Ronaldo with Manchester United, Ten Hag's decision to trust other players to be included in the main squad because the tactics used required Ronaldo to be on the bench.
Ronaldo is a great player, but not always great players can look great on the field. Hopefully after Ronaldo's time with Manchester United ends he will soon get a new club that values his existence more by giving him more minutes to play.

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December 08, 2022, 10:32:22 AM
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The reason why Liverpool's form dropped this much should be some mental problems. Of course they faced some injuries and had many missing players as a result. Diaz was one of them and we all know how important he is for the team now. He is trying to do his best to fill Mane's place in the team. His performance so far has already been impressive.
I think that liverpool didn't get mental problem. It can win against a big team. That proves that if the mental from liverpool was still good at this moment. The problem is when it comes to the inconsistent performance. Liverpool has capability to win against any big team in EPL but sometime it has a very bad performance during the match against the big club.
I think that liverpool didn't have mental problem for sure. the only problem that faced by liverpool was inconsistentcy with its performance.

However I don't think injury is not the main reason for this. Because they had really bad games in which they defended their opponents very poorly. Klopp needs to help the players improve their motivation. This squad are capable of doing anything they want. They just need some push.
Liverpool has so many great players that can substitute the injured players and how can you think that was badly affecting the performance from liverpool? liverpool already prepared some new players to be bought and this to make sure the squads has some great players to be used.

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December 08, 2022, 10:43:57 AM
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In a training session with Portugal, Ronaldo did not train with players who are not start in match with Switzerland. Is it a signal that Portuguese coach really want to reserve Ronaldo for a quarter match with Morocco?

Will he return to Portugal squad in quarter match?

ronaldo situation with the portugal coach is no longer a good coexistence, it seems to me that ronaldo complained about something and the portugal coach didn't like what ronaldo did or said and in revenge he put ronaldo on the bench and didn't let him playing at the beginning against Switzerland, and this is not something that will change in the next games, mainly because the coach from Portugal had an excellent result in the game against Switzerland and, therefore, he already has a strong pretext for not putting more ronaldo to play in the beginning of the game, because the portugal coach has already seen that the team no longer needs ronaldo, this is a somewhat sad fact because until a few years the portugal team was extremely dependent on ronaldo, but today they no longer need ronaldo, in my opinion ronaldo should retire, that would be the best choice he would make in his life

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December 08, 2022, 10:52:43 AM
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Bruno Fernandes has developed rapidly while defending Portugal at the 2022 world cup, for the good performance shown with his country made several top clubs interested in using his services. Real Madrid has been one of the clubs most linked with Bruno Fernandes, Real Madrid interest in Bruno Fernandes to have him as a replacement for the aging Modric.
However, Bruno Fernandes is not interested in accepting a proposal from Real Madrid because he is still happy with Manchester United and wants to help Manchester compete again for the EPL title.
It's true that Bruno Fernandes has performed well in this year's world cup and has done a lot to market himself, but one thing I will always tell people is that the psychology of players with a certain team and for a certain reason is different. He is a great player even before now, but his performance in the Man U has not been as obvious as seen in the world cup.

The rivalry between Arsenal and Manchester United will be great. If they meet after the World Cup, it is likely that both teams will perform as they did before the World Cup. I think players from both teams have gained experience from playing in the World Cup which we will see reflected for their clubs after the World Cup.
I don't believe that all these core star players are gaining any experience other than showing more effort into the world cup games than they naturally do with the club side. It's personal willingness, determination and change of mindset. So, it's left to them to replicate the brilliant display after the tournament.

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December 08, 2022, 11:03:09 AM
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I don't know if United are very happy with United at the moment. He had a very bad start to the competition by losing 2 games in a row, that's 6 points against significantly lesser opponents. If you had won those 2 games, the world would have looked very different of course. But if, that doesn't count. He will have to move up in the 2nd half of the competition, because it is more negative than positive how United have played football so far. The game against Liverpool was won, but Liverpool were not at their best. United is the only team to have beaten leader Arsenal, still a bright spot.

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December 08, 2022, 11:16:45 AM
Last edit: December 08, 2022, 11:36:38 PM by G_Besar
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Liverpool has so many great players that can substitute the injured players and how can you think that was badly affecting the performance from liverpool? liverpool already prepared some new players to be bought and this to make sure the squads has some great players to be used.

Actually Livepool has a number of players who are able to bring their team to competition. But their performance was completely beyond expectations, The Red started the season very badly. The loss of Mane shouldn't have been so affected, but in fact, at the moment, almost all of Liverpool's players are not at their true level.

Klopp will have to overhaul his squad if he is to remain respected, with a number of new players urgently needed to be brought in in the January window to make up for a shortfall that is starting to look worrying. The wing-back sector needs to be totally evaluated, because Alexander and Robertson are no longer able to contribute as well as they used to and Mohammed Salah is also starting to show his selfishness so that the front lines don't look so cohesive either.

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