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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.1%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.8%)
Arsenal - 39 (21.2%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.5%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 184

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June 18, 2023, 07:05:52 PM
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Chelsea has a lot to make up for next season. But what would the expectations be? I think many supporters will be happy with European football, but a team like Chelsea is normally indispensable from the top 5 of the rankings? United can also go either way. In terms of results, Ten Hag did a decent job, but the game image was often not good. In that respect, Arsenal has provided a lot of entertainment, and they have therefore rightfully taken 2nd place in the competition. Becoming champions seems impossible to me with City in this form.
Expectations for a team of Chelsea calibre will undoubtedly be high as it looks ahead to the upcoming season. Many supporters would be content with European football, but Chelsea legacy and resources call for more. Their regular placement among the top five teams in the standings has virtually become a requirement. On the other side Manchester United has an uncertain future. Ten Hag produced acceptable results, but their playing style frequently lacked charm. Arsenal who deservedly finished in second place emerged as a fun force. The title battle however would seem impossible given Manchester City impressive performance. However as football is a game of surprises the forthcoming season could take some unanticipated turns.

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June 18, 2023, 07:08:43 PM
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Well, the problems started originally with Graham Potter. His invitation was probably the key mistake because before Chelsea he had no big clubs and the result was average in Chelsea itself at first, but after the purchase of star players it became even worse. Apparently with the arrival of new stars Potter finally lost control.
The invitation of Lampard was also incomprehensible, because before that he had been sacked just because of poor results.

Poccetino has experience working with the most star players, so at least he shouldn't have a problem with discipline. The main thing is to show results in the beginning to return everyone's confidence that Chelsea are still a top club.

In fact, the problem lies with Todd Boehly not Graham Potter. he was only chosen, because other coaches did not want to handle the situation that was facing Chelsea. The thing is, there's a reputation at stake. which in the end, Potter accepted the offer with the risk that was on his shoulders. Initially Chelsea went well under Potter, unfortunately the problem came when there were many Chelsea players who were hit by injuries. at the same time, Chelsea was getting worse and worse so Potter became Todd Boehly's scapegoat. after that, none of the coaches were willing to handle Chelsea which in the end Lampard tried his luck again. with the scenario, if successful his career will recover. unfortunately, under his tutelage everything is getting messy even though Chelsea has brought in many newcomers even with expensive bandrol.

Now, Poccetino is their official coach. he should be able to fix Chelsea back to improve. at least, can compete at the top of the Premier League.  because, they do not have a busy schedule like other teams. Well, the new season hasn't started yet, there's a lot of work for the new coach. his current job, releasing players who weren't part of his project. the rest, he can start to build chemistry.
In general it is logical that the root of all problems in Todd Boehly. Here it should be noted that he apparently adheres to the American position and in sports that money can solve almost everything. So apparently after the Potter debacle he decided to make a big purchase for Chelsea so that star players could fix the situation, but things as we understand it turned out differently.

Now Poccetino will have to rectify the situation, I think he will figure out who is superfluous in the team and probably many of the latest Chelsea purchases will be put up for sale or on loan, I think that by 90 percent will remain Enzo Fernandez and Mudrik, because he seems to have such a clause in the contract, and the other potential players for the transition.

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June 18, 2023, 07:09:58 PM
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Chelsea has a lot to make up for next season. But what would the expectations be? I think many supporters will be happy with European football, but a team like Chelsea is normally indispensable from the top 5 of the rankings? United can also go either way. In terms of results, Ten Hag did a decent job, but the game image was often not good. In that respect, Arsenal has provided a lot of entertainment, and they have therefore rightfully taken 2nd place in the competition. Becoming champions seems impossible to me with City in this form.
Arsenal were able to beat Manchester City, but it wouldn't be wrong to say that they gave the leadership to Manchester City after suffering consecutive loss of points. There was also a serious point gap between them, but Arsenal could not win the championship. If there is such a surprise next year, maybe Manchester City may not win the cup. To be realistic, they will most likely be champions again.

Such a surprise is eminent but thru will still hand the trophy back to Manchester City in thr end
The only thing that can avoid that is when Arsenal and the likes of Manchester United reinforce their squad depth.
If you don't have good squad depth and play many competitions, fatigue must come. You cannot avoid it and it will throw your team into crisis.
Chelsea will be at advantage here because they will be playing lesser amount of matches

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June 18, 2023, 07:32:50 PM
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In general it is logical that the root of all problems in Todd Boehly. Here it should be noted that he apparently adheres to the American position and in sports that money can solve almost everything. So apparently after the Potter debacle he decided to make a big purchase for Chelsea so that star players could fix the situation, but things as we understand it turned out differently.

Now Poccetino will have to rectify the situation, I think he will figure out who is superfluous in the team and probably many of the latest Chelsea purchases will be put up for sale or on loan, I think that by 90 percent will remain Enzo Fernandez and Mudrik, because he seems to have such a clause in the contract, and the other potential players for the transition.

But the real problem is that the harm is already done and can't be fixed within a single year. Not playing the Champions League is a massive drawback for the team and the club. First of all they need to get rid of any players who underperformed last season unless Pochettino thinks he can get them going again, but at the same time they need to keep their squad together. But when they don't participate in the Champions League it will be hard to convince new players to go to Chelsea. Boehly went literally crazy with all those transfers and now they have a ton of players and nobody really knows what to do with all those guys. He also expected that it would work out and now I wouldn't be surprised if there are also issues financially that limit their ability to bring in some other guys. This will be a rough year for Chelsea.

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June 18, 2023, 07:53:38 PM
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In fact, the problem lies with Todd Boehly not Graham Potter. he was only chosen, because other coaches did not want to handle the situation that was facing Chelsea. The thing is, there's a reputation at stake. which in the end, Potter accepted the offer with the risk that was on his shoulders. Initially Chelsea went well under Potter, unfortunately the problem came when there were many Chelsea players who were hit by injuries. at the same time, Chelsea was getting worse and worse so Potter became Todd Boehly's scapegoat. after that, none of the coaches were willing to handle Chelsea which in the end Lampard tried his luck again. with the scenario, if successful his career will recover. unfortunately, under his tutelage everything is getting messy even though Chelsea has brought in many newcomers even with expensive bandrol.

Now, Poccetino is their official coach. he should be able to fix Chelsea back to improve. at least, can compete at the top of the Premier League.  because, they do not have a busy schedule like other teams. Well, the new season hasn't started yet, there's a lot of work for the new coach. his current job, releasing players who weren't part of his project. the rest, he can start to build chemistry.
In general it is logical that the root of all problems in Todd Boehly. Here it should be noted that he apparently adheres to the American position and in sports that money can solve almost everything. So apparently after the Potter debacle he decided to make a big purchase for Chelsea so that star players could fix the situation, but things as we understand it turned out differently.

Now Poccetino will have to rectify the situation, I think he will figure out who is superfluous in the team and probably many of the latest Chelsea purchases will be put up for sale or on loan, I think that by 90 percent will remain Enzo Fernandez and Mudrik, because he seems to have such a clause in the contract, and the other potential players for the transition.

I firmly believe that if a club has money, they should spend it like Newcastle is doing. Get a manager who is decent and known for getting the job done and keep him for a long period of time and give him the chance to build up his best 11. I don’t think that chance is being given to any of the managers of Chelsea recently. The squad is not very bad.

Actually, the squad is not bad at all. Because of not having proper management, they are not doing well. And the problem is Chelsea has already finished in the 12 position this season. Who knows if the manager is not changed they will probably fight two straight out of the relegation zone in this season! I know a lot of people are going to find this funny, but there is a genuine chance for that to happen. So Chelsea will have to make a decision and it is going to be a tough one.

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In general it is logical that the root of all problems in Todd Boehly. Here it should be noted that he apparently adheres to the American position and in sports that money can solve almost everything. So apparently after the Potter debacle he decided to make a big purchase for Chelsea so that star players could fix the situation, but things as we understand it turned out differently.

Now Poccetino will have to rectify the situation, I think he will figure out who is superfluous in the team and probably many of the latest Chelsea purchases will be put up for sale or on loan, I think that by 90 percent will remain Enzo Fernandez and Mudrik, because he seems to have such a clause in the contract, and the other potential players for the transition.

But the real problem is that the harm is already done and can't be fixed within a single year. Not playing the Champions League is a massive drawback for the team and the club. First of all they need to get rid of any players who underperformed last season unless Pochettino thinks he can get them going again, but at the same time they need to keep their squad together. But when they don't participate in the Champions League it will be hard to convince new players to go to Chelsea. Boehly went literally crazy with all those transfers and now they have a ton of players and nobody really knows what to do with all those guys. He also expected that it would work out and now I wouldn't be surprised if there are also issues financially that limit their ability to bring in some other guys. This will be a rough year for Chelsea.
Actually, conditions like this can be immediately corrected as long as there is good harmony between player and coach communication on the field and outside, on the other hand adaptation is also important because this also affects performance.
I take an example in this case, maybe last season it was Newcastle and this season it was Aston Villa. Even though they were a club that could be categorized as small at first but when Newcastle made a revamp with their money and Aston Villa changed their strategy by bringing in Emery this season when they were having enormous problems because they couldn't get out of the relegation zone but with very poor handling. precisely they were now even in a position that could be said to be ideal.
It can also happen to Chelsea with the notes I said before. But the problem is that building chemistry like this is clearly not easy, so it really depends on the players and the coach, in the end, whether they can build good chemistry or not.

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June 18, 2023, 08:13:47 PM
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But the real problem is that the harm is already done and can't be fixed within a single year. Not playing the Champions League is a massive drawback for the team and the club. First of all they need to get rid of any players who underperformed last season unless Pochettino thinks he can get them going again, but at the same time they need to keep their squad together. But when they don't participate in the Champions League it will be hard to convince new players to go to Chelsea. Boehly went literally crazy with all those transfers and now they have a ton of players and nobody really knows what to do with all those guys. He also expected that it would work out and now I wouldn't be surprised if there are also issues financially that limit their ability to bring in some other guys. This will be a rough year for Chelsea.
Pochettino must choose his preferred players and those who are not included in his plans for next season they must sell. it will help the club financially for at least one more season to show improvement.
it will be difficult to bring in new players if the club is in a slump, but Chelsea can provide the option of bartering players with agreements with other clubs.
You are right, next season may be difficult for Chelsea, but it could be a big challenge for Pochettino's career. his intelligence and reputation would be used in this situation. One season might be less, but we'll see how it goes. because Chelsea has to see how the big teams stand now not with 1 or 2 years of coaching. they plan for quite a long time to build a team.

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The work of the last two managers at Chelsea has really made the job of rebuilding and making Chelsea a very competitive club once more to be a very big task. It was started by how clueless Graham Potter was with his style and ultimately ended with Frank Lampard's gambling style of of football.
However I have a strong opinion that Mauricio Pochettino will definitely make everything work again at Chelsea. He has the potentials to turn the club's fortunes around I believe he'll definitely do a good job at Chelsea come next season and beyond
Pochettino's task next season to make and change the Chelsea team for the better will not be easy even though some people may believe that Pochettino has the ability to make Chelsea better. Because apart from the players who have to follow Pochettino's own direction and style, the team must also provide better players for Chelsea so that there will be more significant improvements for Chelsea next season through their new coach.
Pochettina himself knows that the task before him won't be that easy, that's why he agreed to 3 years contract with Chelsea. He wanted time to develop and sign new players who would be compatible with his style of football coaching. The progress Pochettino has made in identifying the players he wants at Chelsea thus far demonstrates his capacity to restore Chelsea to its former glory over the long term, not as quickly as it may appear.
There are so many wrong signings made by Potter. I am happy that this is gradually taken care as they are laid off from Chelsea to make room for new players.

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June 18, 2023, 09:14:45 PM
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People obviously understand that it generally takes a decent amount of time to actually get set with the team for a manager. Chelsea also needs to give their manager a decent amount of time before they reach any conclusions about how the manager is going to perform with the squad. Chelsea has finished in the 12th spot the last season. That is certainly not an ideal result for a club like Chelsea.

Of course, considering the fact that the squad is not that bad they should have done a lot better. Right now I don’t think changing the manager is going to do them any good unless they bring in Zidane. So unless they can do that I think they should stick with the manager that they have right now.
Yes, in a number of ways, what we've seen from other big teams is giving coaches time to develop a stronger, unified strategy each season and that will achieve milestones going forward for the team. If the management only gives 1 season for the coach to bring them a trophy it is quite difficult to do even though sometimes it becomes a fortune but on one hand it is very difficult to happen.

Mauricio Pochettino needs time to build Chelsea, especially after Chelsea have slumped this season, of course he has a lot of work to do next season. I think if Mauricio Pochettino is given a lot of time, I'm sure he will be able to get Chelsea back to the big top in the EPL and come back strong in the Champions League.

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Liverpool must come back strong with Klopp, but maybe Klopp has also seen that it can no longer continue in the current way. That means that the broom must be swept through the selection, with a number of departures and acquisitions in the selection. I think they misunderstood Mane's departure and may have underestimated how valuable Mane has been. Maybe Ziyech is something in that position as an attacking midfielder. And of course Kane would make a great duo with Salah, but the Spurs really won't let Kane go just like that and I also think that Kane himself doesn't want to leave the Spurs.

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June 18, 2023, 09:21:07 PM
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Liverpool must come back strong with Klopp, but maybe Klopp has also seen that it can no longer continue in the current way. That means that the broom must be swept through the selection, with a number of departures and acquisitions in the selection. I think they misunderstood Mane's departure and may have underestimated how valuable Mane has been. Maybe Ziyech is something in that position as an attacking midfielder. And of course Kane would make a great duo with Salah, but the Spurs really won't let Kane go just like that and I also think that Kane himself doesn't want to leave the Spurs.

Tottenham Hotspur has long been a sub-top in England. Becoming a champion was not an option and the competition has only become stronger. For example, we already have teams like Newcastle United at the top and that was certainly no coincidence. And keep in mind that the owners of Newcastle United can buy anything they want. I was also surprised that they didn't bid for Ronaldo or Messi. But it's only a matter of time before a world player comes to this team and if one goat is over the dam, more will follow. Newvcastle will certainly be competing for the title in the next few years.

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June 18, 2023, 09:21:59 PM
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There is a possibility that after Chelsea have Pochettino can get a chance at least to improve performance to reach the top 5 in the premier league next season.
Maybe it seems impossible that the Chelsea players can improve with just a new coach but we don't know what will happen next and I think it's not only the coach who needs to be replaced but some of the attackers and defenders.
Even with Pochettino, their won't be any improvement in Chelsea's squad, Chelsea changed three coaches before last season ended and their was no any changes in their performance, the team was just getting worst whenever they signed a new coach, we all know that the last coach Chelsea had which is lampard is not really a experienced coach, but right now coach is not the only problem Chelsea is having. Chelsea needs to swipe out most of the players in their squad before their will be improvement in their team, most of those players are not really ready to play for the club, Chelsea needs young and talented players to bring them back to form, but if Chelsea wants to maintain their squad, then nothing good is going to come out.

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June 18, 2023, 09:27:52 PM
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Well, the problems started originally with Graham Potter. His invitation was probably the key mistake because before Chelsea he had no big clubs and the result was average in Chelsea itself at first, but after the purchase of star players it became even worse. Apparently with the arrival of new stars Potter finally lost control.
The invitation of Lampard was also incomprehensible, because before that he had been sacked just because of poor results.

Poccetino has experience working with the most star players, so at least he shouldn't have a problem with discipline. The main thing is to show results in the beginning to return everyone's confidence that Chelsea are still a top club.

In fact, the problem lies with Todd Boehly not Graham Potter. he was only chosen, because other coaches did not want to handle the situation that was facing Chelsea. The thing is, there's a reputation at stake. which in the end, Potter accepted the offer with the risk that was on his shoulders. Initially Chelsea went well under Potter, unfortunately the problem came when there were many Chelsea players who were hit by injuries. at the same time, Chelsea was getting worse and worse so Potter became Todd Boehly's scapegoat. after that, none of the coaches were willing to handle Chelsea which in the end Lampard tried his luck again. with the scenario, if successful his career will recover. unfortunately, under his tutelage everything is getting messy even though Chelsea has brought in many newcomers even with expensive bandrol.

Now, Poccetino is their official coach. he should be able to fix Chelsea back to improve. at least, can compete at the top of the Premier League.  because, they do not have a busy schedule like other teams. Well, the new season hasn't started yet, there's a lot of work for the new coach. his current job, releasing players who weren't part of his project. the rest, he can start to build chemistry.

About the not busy schedule is of course interesting, except that previously many teams in the English premier league complained that even without European league games the schedule of games in the league is very tight, that it's hard to cope with it, etc. Those who will play in European tournaments next season have their own problems, while Chelsea should try to recover in the meantime. It's unlikely they'll make it at least to the Europa League, but it's worth a try.

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Maybe Newcastle United will be the new sensation of the new season. I think it's especially great about this team that they didn't spend a lot of money and therefore still finished 4th in the competition. If they had spent 500 million more they might have come 2nd. Arsenal were unstoppable in the first half of the season. There must have been a certain moment when Arsenal really started to believe in the title and it was precisely at that moment that things went completely wrong, the fairy tale seemed to end so beautifully.

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June 18, 2023, 09:50:51 PM
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About the not busy schedule is of course interesting, except that previously many teams in the English premier league complained that even without European league games the schedule of games in the league is very tight, that it's hard to cope with it, etc. Those who will play in European tournaments next season have their own problems, while Chelsea should try to recover in the meantime. It's unlikely they'll make it at least to the Europa League, but it's worth a try.
Several Premier League team coaches complained about the very busy schedule of matches, even Pep Guardiola also complained about this season's schedule when they still had the chance to win the treble winner. So it has become commonplace for Premier League teams, but maybe going forward it needs adjustments to make it even better for all teams.

Chelsea is a team that has been discussed a lot since Pochettino was appointed as coach. But are you sure Pochettino is the right coach to bring Chelsea back into the top 4? I'm still not very sure about his abilities, but he is an experienced coach in the Premier League with Tottenham in previous seasons.

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I think Liverpool will start next season with a significant level of difference for them because last season Liverpool played in the Champions League and they were able to provide a lot of competition from the grub phase to the next stage. But in the next season Liverpool will play in the Europa League and of course Liverpool is very superior. Salah while playing at Liverpool he has never played in the Europa League. But next season he will play for the first time in the European league with Liverpool. I think he will make a lot of achievements in the Europa League next season, be it being the top scorer or being the best player in the Europa League.

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You could be right because a lot of people have said that Pochettino is a coach with good experience in big teams. Chelsea can expect Pochettino to be able to bring success to his squad, especially regarding team performance. I think we all still don't know what impact Pochettino will have on Chelsea's form, but there is good hope of him next season.

Chelsea are expected to improve with Pochettino, but I believe he will not be able to win titles for Chelsea in one season. Qualification for the Champions League and European competition next season is the most likely wish, but I don't expect him to be able to rival Pep Guardiola at Manchester City.

Not something impossible, if Chelsea could have done it. after all, they are only focused on the Premier League. after all, Chelsea is also still involved in the hunt for players to add to the strength of its squad next season. but what is certain, we agree that we have not been able to measure Pochettino's performance with Chelsea. because, the new season has not started yet. plus, there are some very strong competitors in this competition. City will remain the favorite team, besides that there is also Arsenal who are increasing the depth of their squad. Newcastle, ready to compete more competitively next season. Liverpool, in the stage of improvement and Klopp really knows what he has to do. that means, Pochettino's job is not easy because next season's Premier League competition is likely to be more lively than last season.

Fortunately, IMO, Pochettino's main task is not too heavy with only focus on the Premier League. at least, he already had a previous picture when Lampard was an interim coach who was tasked with exploring all available players. well, Pochettino's next task is only to select his players, after that he can start by experimenting with various systems according to the available players. but don't get your hopes up, if Chelsea can immediately finish in 1st place. at least, being in the top 4 is already an achievement in the midst of Chelsea's situation which is in the revamping phase.

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June 18, 2023, 10:22:49 PM
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Maybe Newcastle United will be the new sensation of the new season. I think it's especially great about this team that they didn't spend a lot of money and therefore still finished 4th in the competition. If they had spent 500 million more they might have come 2nd. Arsenal were unstoppable in the first half of the season. There must have been a certain moment when Arsenal really started to believe in the title and it was precisely at that moment that things went completely wrong, the fairy tale seemed to end so beautifully.
Newcastle spend much last season, after then Arabic owner took over the club, for  over many years they haven't been to Any European cup. But the take over  has proven that every big clubs was once a small club, until a rich owner took over the club.

Arsenal and Newcastle are on the same scale of ranting now, both has not won any europen cup, But I'm sure Newcastle will win it before Arsenal. Newcastle is a big club already, and they can bring in any player of their choice just like every other  elite clubs, because they have the resources to compete in the market.
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De Gea has been at Man Utd since he was a very young man. I think he joined when he was 19, that’s 12 long years. I don’t think many foreign players stay at one club that long. Maybe he needs a new challenge, perhaps he wants to go back to Spain. I think Man Utd fans should respect his service to the club and wish him well, whatever he decides to do. The decline of Man Utd since Fergie left has nothing to do with him.

I think De Gea should get the respect of his team because got many achievements with Manchester United and helped his team a long time ago, however, he is just 32y old we can play for his team for a long time but I think the reason of why Ten Hag wants to hire Andre Onana is just because they worked together in Ajax.

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June 18, 2023, 11:02:54 PM
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Maybe Newcastle United will be the new sensation of the new season. I think it's especially great about this team that they didn't spend a lot of money and therefore still finished 4th in the competition. If they had spent 500 million more they might have come 2nd. Arsenal were unstoppable in the first half of the season. There must have been a certain moment when Arsenal really started to believe in the title and it was precisely at that moment that things went completely wrong, the fairy tale seemed to end so beautifully.
Newcastle spend much last season, after then Arabic owner took over the club, for  over many years they haven't been to Any European cup. But the take over  has proven that every big clubs was once a small club, until a rich owner took over the club.

Arsenal and Newcastle are on the same scale of ranting now, both has not won any europen cup, But I'm sure Newcastle will win it before Arsenal. Newcastle is a big club already, and they can bring in any player of their choice just like every other  elite clubs, because they have the resources to compete in the market.
Well, I quite agree with your opinion, and for your presumptions that Newcastle will win the European cup before Arsenal, well, I wont argue but will only say that the best team between the two win it first.
Arsenal played quite well in the just concluded Premier league games, they only started misbehaving by the time the game was coming to end, and that cost them their initial first position, they later ended up in the second position which is not quite bad, but over all, as a serious team, I believe they will go back to their drawing board and see how they can correct whatever went wrong in the course of their gameplay..

So when it comes to which of this two teams that will the European cup first, I would say that, only the future is truly sure of which team will achieve that first.

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