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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.1%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.8%)
Arsenal - 39 (21.2%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.5%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 184

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June 26, 2023, 05:40:02 PM
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Chelsea problem last problem was the management not the coach or the players. they had a nice coach that was doing well in Brighton, Potter Graham flopped because of poor management in the club. and if they did not amend their involvement in the club's decision, pochettino has the experience but if he is not given a free hand to operate he will still flop.
True, I saw something wrong with Chelsea's management because some of the coaches that Todd brought in mostly always failed, they even had good and expensive players but in the end, they always failed. I agree, maybe one of the factors that make coaches fail is because they don't get freedom, after all, coaches have experience and high-flying hours, so I think they already know what to do when the team experiences unwanted things. But it all comes back to management, if in conditions like this, management doesn't give freedom to the coach, then I think it will be very difficult for the coach to be able to restore the club's condition.

It is unfair to only blame Chelsea ex-coaches for failure in the club while disregarding the efforts they put in during off-match days. The responsibility of the coaches is to prepare the team, but the main job of performing on the field falls on the players during matches. Therefore, it is safe to say that both the coaches and the players should be held accountable for their poor performance.

The players showed recklessness and displayed a lack of proficiency in creating scoring opportunities, even when they did have chances, converting them into goals proved to be a challenge, and not just that, they lacked the strength and confidence to overcome the opposition's defenders, the defenders were also not fulfilling their duties effectively. I will rate Kepa before even rating some of the defenders because he does what an average keeper would have done throughout last season.
I wouldn't say the coaches were completely the cause. No doubt, they set the system while the players execute the game plan. But some went there with a poor system/ game plan. An example is Potter. the wrong system set up in chelsea wasn't completely his but he had the chance of ending things then he showed he's on weakness.  The chemistry here is quite simple. Apart from Tuvhel, no later coach borough to chelsea could work on a system set by another coach.  I blame Potter on a mare watching a highlight of the substitution he made which ruin many matches for chelsea. He made efforts but we're not good enough to transform the team.

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June 26, 2023, 06:14:04 PM
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This is something to think about because some of the hasty decisions made by current owners and management regarding coaches or players have actually made them worse off.
Potter is indeed very good to train a club which in fact is an ordinary player without star players but indeed for a club like Chelsea, Potter's qualifications are clearly not capable and indeed this is also the case even though his decision is at Chelsea but of course there are those who play a more role and that is management there that made him at Chelsea and made Chelsea not play as well as before.
Now blaming each other is also useless for Chelsea because what they have to do now is improve their performance so that a dark season like this one doesn't happen again for them.
I think it's obvious that we are going to see some big name manager, or at least we should be seeing that but we can't really see it just yet because there are just rumors. With a club size of Chelsea, we need to see players that are world famous, which we are sort of seeing already, and maybe a manager like that too.

Potter was a good manager, for a team that is fighting to be in the top 10 then I would understand, but that doesn't mean that we are going to see him do anything else. I think it's quite obvious that we are going to see a big name. I still highly suggest Mourinho, he has a past there, and he should be getting the attention again after proving himself at Roma, he is still amazing, even if he had a few bad years.

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June 26, 2023, 06:43:28 PM
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This is something to think about because some of the hasty decisions made by current owners and management regarding coaches or players have actually made them worse off.
Potter is indeed very good to train a club which in fact is an ordinary player without star players but indeed for a club like Chelsea, Potter's qualifications are clearly not capable and indeed this is also the case even though his decision is at Chelsea but of course there are those who play a more role and that is management there that made him at Chelsea and made Chelsea not play as well as before.
Now blaming each other is also useless for Chelsea because what they have to do now is improve their performance so that a dark season like this one doesn't happen again for them.
Potter will have a chance to prove his skills, if he really knows how to work with mid-level teams, then there will be many options for him, I mean that there will definitely be teams that want to invite him as head coach. He had a chance at Chelsea, but he didn't take it, maybe he got into a team of this level too early, but it was an invaluable experience. I think Poccettino should do much better with Chelsea as he has experience with very big teams and very importantly he has a lot of experience in the Premier League. After his departure from Tottenham, the team's game began to decline, and this indicates how important he was in the team. His departure from PSG was somewhat incomprehensible, but it doesn’t matter anymore, Chelsea are a team with a great history and great opportunities, Poccettino can reach any heights here.
I am a little sure that Pochettino's arrival will make a change for Chelsea to be better than last season and I heard rumors that Poccettino let several players leave Chelsea and I believe with this attitude there is a clear purpose.
Poccettino has let several players leave, it seems like he will create a new formation with new players who will be bought lately and strengthen performance to be able to return as strong as before, hope is with Poccettino

The understanding between Chelsea players is not good. And so I would say Pochettino should rebuild the Chelsea team completely. Chelsea have a lot of talented players in their squad. And so coach Pochettino has to sell several players and find new talented players. I believe that if Pochettino is given enough time, freedom, opportunities, and funds, he will be able to stabilize the Chelsea team. Next season we will see consistent performances from Chelsea.

I think Chelsea has learned a lot from their mistakes which in this season consist of sacking quite some coaches and as such Pochettino to have the full trust of complete Chelsea management and board of directors.It is only natural for a coach to sell players which are not in his plan,meaning they will not fit in the scheme of how he will play and I am sure that Pochettino is knowledgeable enough to get the players he wants and also keep quite some of the good players from Chelsea to build a team that is capable of bringing good results for the fans.He did well in Tottenham so I only expect him to do better with Chelsea and I don't know the odd but I would even bet on Chelsea to win next season,just for fun,just 50 or 100 bucks.

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June 26, 2023, 06:44:04 PM
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This is something to think about because some of the hasty decisions made by current owners and management regarding coaches or players have actually made them worse off.
Potter is indeed very good to train a club which in fact is an ordinary player without star players but indeed for a club like Chelsea, Potter's qualifications are clearly not capable and indeed this is also the case even though his decision is at Chelsea but of course there are those who play a more role and that is management there that made him at Chelsea and made Chelsea not play as well as before.
Now blaming each other is also useless for Chelsea because what they have to do now is improve their performance so that a dark season like this one doesn't happen again for them.
I think it's obvious that we are going to see some big name manager, or at least we should be seeing that but we can't really see it just yet because there are just rumors. With a club size of Chelsea, we need to see players that are world famous, which we are sort of seeing already, and maybe a manager like that too.

Potter was a good manager, for a team that is fighting to be in the top 10 then I would understand, but that doesn't mean that we are going to see him do anything else. I think it's quite obvious that we are going to see a big name. I still highly suggest Mourinho, he has a past there, and he should be getting the attention again after proving himself at Roma, he is still amazing, even if he had a few bad years.

José Mourinho could improve the situation. But I don’t know if it is going to be a very big improvement. But at the same time, I think the team finishing in the 12th position is certainly a positive thing for whichever coach comes next. Because even finishing in the top six is going to mean a big improvement from here.

So I think this is a risk worth taking for José Mourinho as well. I do have some doubts about him if he will be able to actually bring some genuine improvement to the team. But at the same time, he should be able to do well because he has a done Pretty decent job with Roma.

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June 26, 2023, 06:44:09 PM
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I see it totally normal that Mudryk didn't perform very impressively this season. Because the whole squad of Chelsea were very inadequate. Their morale was so low that they even gave up on the season quite early. In this situation it wouldn't be a healthy assessment about a player. There is a new period starting for Chelsea now with Pochettino. This is going to be the most important time period to watch Mudryk's capabilities. If the team make a good start the expectation from him will also be high.

If he still can't impress people then I will also agree with the people who think he isn't good enough for Chelsea.

On the whole, I agree with you to a certain extent. You can't win a team game alone, in this case showing well. He might not justify the 100 million he was bought for, but he should definitely fit into the squad. His goalscoring form last season was poor and I don't expect it to improve, but he could be a new prodigy if Chelsea start showing well in the new season

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June 26, 2023, 06:53:03 PM
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Potter destroyed Chelsea in record time, despite the fact that they were quite erratic when they were with Thomas Tuchel. I'm not going to completely blame Graham Potter for how Chelsea are feeling this season, but he did play a big part in causing Chelsea to fall apart. It is hoped that the presence of a new coach will boost Chelsea's performance even better, but we also have to see what their new coach can do first.


I think everything is getting weird for Chelsea in the next season because they are losing many players and Pochettino will not have easy times in Chelsea in the next season. Koulibaly and Kanté both left this team and joined the Arabian teams, also Mateo Kovačić and Kai Havertz are leaving Chelsea.
Mason Mount got offers from Manchester United.
Mendy and Ziyech are both going to join the Saudi teams.
There are many players leaving Chelsea.

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June 26, 2023, 07:12:13 PM
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I think everything is getting weird for Chelsea in the next season because they are losing many players and Pochettino will not have easy times in Chelsea in the next season. Koulibaly and Kanté both left this team and joined the Arabian teams, also Mateo Kovačić and Kai Havertz are leaving Chelsea.
Mason Mount got offers from Manchester United.
Mendy and Ziyech are both going to join the Saudi teams.
There are many players leaving Chelsea.
If you look at the material from the Chelsea players who arrived last season, I'm sure there have been good changes when Pochettino handled him. Pochettino throws away players he didn't buy and that's normal in my opinion. because this has also happened to Arsenal, Arteta has also thrown away Unai Emery's chosen players and almost all of them were thrown away, even though they were not sold directly, but they were slowly thrown away. Because when Arteta first became Arsenal coach he wasn't too good but he dared to overhaul young players plus a more efficient game system as the season progressed and finally entered the UCL zone again.

This will also happen to Chelsea one day, even though it can't be changed in one season, but I believe Chelsea will rise again and become a contender for the EPL League again.
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I think everything is getting weird for Chelsea in the next season because they are losing many players and Pochettino will not have easy times in Chelsea in the next season. Koulibaly and Kanté both left this team and joined the Arabian teams, also Mateo Kovačić and Kai Havertz are leaving Chelsea.
Mason Mount got offers from Manchester United.
Mendy and Ziyech are both going to join the Saudi teams.
There are many players leaving Chelsea.
So of course Mauricio Pochettino will make a major overhaul for his first season and then he will be faced with a tough job. Mauricio Pochettino will have to reduce his squad and many players will be sold, especially those who are not included in his plans for next season. Also, a lot of the players who have been sold are not the players who played a lot last season, so I think it will only be a burden on the coach if he still wants to keep them.

So far you probably know how deep Chelsea's squad would be without them, so I guess they've just been pretty lavish with a lot of talented, expensive players. Pochettino is also still hoping to be able to sign a few players, so maybe there will be a new name in the Chelsea squad before the 2023-2024 season starts.

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June 26, 2023, 07:25:42 PM
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I think Chelsea has learned a lot from their mistakes which in this season consist of sacking quite some coaches and as such Pochettino to have the full trust of complete Chelsea management and board of directors.It is only natural for a coach to sell players which are not in his plan,meaning they will not fit in the scheme of how he will play and I am sure that Pochettino is knowledgeable enough to get the players he wants and also keep quite some of the good players from Chelsea to build a team that is capable of bringing good results for the fans.He did well in Tottenham so I only expect him to do better with Chelsea and I don't know the odd but I would even bet on Chelsea to win next season,just for fun,just 50 or 100 bucks.
to be honest, I'm not so sure about Pochettino whether he is able to provide consistency to his players and if I see it looks like Pochettino is looking for a mainstay striker but not sure who he will choose as a mainstay striker. but nevertheless I appreciate whatever Pochettino is doing to improve Chelsea's performance again after being knocked out last season which was very sad for Chelsea.
btw, you seem too sure of betting for Chelsea whereas we don't know if all Chelsea players can quickly adapt to the new coach and I suggest that you should at least see the first performance that Chelsea will show.

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June 26, 2023, 07:29:18 PM
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So of course Mauricio Pochettino will make a major overhaul for his first season and then he will be faced with a tough job. Mauricio Pochettino will have to reduce his squad and many players will be sold, especially those who are not included in his plans for next season. Also, a lot of the players who have been sold are not the players who played a lot last season, so I think it will only be a burden on the coach if he still wants to keep them.

So far you probably know how deep Chelsea's squad would be without them, so I guess they've just been pretty lavish with a lot of talented, expensive players. Pochettino is also still hoping to be able to sign a few players, so maybe there will be a new name in the Chelsea squad before the 2023-2024 season starts.
Pochettino has made big changes in the squad he will build with some players being sold maybe it won't be a burden for them to let go is according to the coach's wishes and in the main Chelsea players there are still some who are being kept, I know the journey in the first season is not it will be easy, he will have to adapt first to his new squad during that process, maybe Pochettino will know where the weak points of each of his players are.

I don't know which players Pochettino will bring to Chelsea or will they focus more on selling players and they will make a few more changes midway through the season when the transfer window opens?

Chelsea can only hope for a plan in Pochettino.

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June 26, 2023, 07:31:46 PM
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Chelsea problem last problem was the management not the coach or the players. they had a nice coach that was doing well in Brighton, Potter Graham flopped because of poor management in the club. and if they did not amend their involvement in the club decision, pochettino has the experience but if he is not given a free hand to operate he will still flop.
That's of course true, friend, because we know that Chelsea management has been acting aggressively since Chelsea change of ownership, at which time the coach was sacked and that impact began to lose a significant balance last season.  Whether it's an existing player or a new signing, it also can't make their performance look better.

So next season there will be stronger competition for Chelsea because several strong teams have started to improve in this season transfer window. I think Pochettino will have a tougher job next season so it is indicated that he must be able to develop a more precise strategy before the league starts.

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I don't know which players Pochettino will bring to Chelsea or will they focus more on selling players and they will make a few more changes midway through the season when the transfer window opens?

Chelsea can only hope for a plan in Pochettino.
So far we've only seen what Pochettino is building at Chelsea, but we never know if it will have a big impact on his form next season. Chelsea are in a difficult transition period, but they have the possibility to return to good form if all the players work hard next season. The first season will not be as smooth sailing as one might think, it is very possible for Pochettino.

Instead of forcing a transfer at this time, I think it's good for Pochettino to wait to see how his team develops in the middle of the season. There is no guarantee whatsoever about the team's performance even if they replace all the old players with new players.

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June 26, 2023, 07:54:39 PM
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I think it's obvious that we are going to see some big name manager, or at least we should be seeing that but we can't really see it just yet because there are just rumors. With a club size of Chelsea, we need to see players that are world famous, which we are sort of seeing already, and maybe a manager like that too.

Potter was a good manager, for a team that is fighting to be in the top 10 then I would understand, but that doesn't mean that we are going to see him do anything else. I think it's quite obvious that we are going to see a big name. I still highly suggest Mourinho, he has a past there, and he should be getting the attention again after proving himself at Roma, he is still amazing, even if he had a few bad years.

José Mourinho could improve the situation. But I don’t know if it is going to be a very big improvement. But at the same time, I think the team finishing in the 12th position is certainly a positive thing for whichever coach comes next. Because even finishing in the top six is going to mean a big improvement from here.

So I think this is a risk worth taking for José Mourinho as well. I do have some doubts about him if he will be able to actually bring some genuine improvement to the team. But at the same time, he should be able to do well because he has a done Pretty decent job with Roma.

Is there something I'm missing? I thought Chelsea already hired Pochettino to be their next manager? So why are y'all still talking about the next manager Chelsea should sign?

Chelsea problem last problem was the management not the coach or the players. they had a nice coach that was doing well in Brighton, Potter Graham flopped because of poor management in the club. and if they did not amend their involvement in the club decision, pochettino has the experience but if he is not given a free hand to operate he will still flop.

It will be really absurd to blame the management alone for the poor performance of Chelsea last season.
I agree the management had a role to play in the disaster, but there is no way in hell a team plays as Chelsea played last season and you don't blame the coach for part of it, especially if the club gives you a lot of reinforcements.
Potter was brilliant at Brighton, but that doesn't mean he was awful at Chelsea. Even the great Mourinho sucked at his second term with Chelsea. Should we excuse that because he was good ones or good at other clubs?

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June 26, 2023, 08:09:06 PM
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I think everything is getting weird for Chelsea in the next season because they are losing many players and Pochettino will not have easy times in Chelsea in the next season. Koulibaly and Kanté both left this team and joined the Arabian teams, also Mateo Kovačić and Kai Havertz are leaving Chelsea.
Mason Mount got offers from Manchester United.
Mendy and Ziyech are both going to join the Saudi teams.
There are many players leaving Chelsea.

Nothing strange is going on; the club is simply cleaning up the players they don't need for next season in order to balance the books before June 30th, when they can start looking for replacements. This is the best thing to do because most of these players haven't shown any single commitment or improvement for the last two seasons, and it was long overdue. Chelsea and Poch will begin recruiting players next month, and there will be many fascinating new faces. The only strange thing is that no one saw those guys going to the Saudis, and I never anticipated them to come to our rescue so quickly.

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June 26, 2023, 08:15:44 PM
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That's of course true, friend, because we know that Chelsea management has been acting aggressively since Chelsea change of ownership, at which time the coach was sacked and that impact began to lose a significant balance last season.  Whether it's an existing player or a new signing, it also can't make their performance look better.

So next season there will be stronger competition for Chelsea because several strong teams have started to improve in this season transfer window. I think Pochettino will have a tougher job next season so it is indicated that he must be able to develop a more precise strategy before the league starts.
Actually, Chelsea has a lot of potential. Every game they play is good, it's just that they have to put everything together well, streamline the squad, maintain team harmony and focus on buying an attacker with character like Drogba. Chelsea are a big team, for sure they will return to how things were.

Boehly's long-term plan cannot be said to have failed for now. Especially with the arrival of a new coach and selling several players who were not needed and recruiting new players. If everything has chemistry (on and off the field) it is not impossible that Chelsea can become the most consistent team in the future. Regarding ambition, Chelsea owner Boehly looks big, this is what makes Chelsea's management look bad because they don't want to be patient and follow the process. And indeed, as you said, Pochettino's work is very hard to devise a more mature strategy for next season, the main thing that must be fixed in my opinion is in the attacking position, because Chelsea's weakness last season was not having a killer finish like Drogba.

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June 26, 2023, 08:32:52 PM
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Pochettino has made big changes in the squad he will build with some players being sold maybe it won't be a burden for them to let go is according to the coach's wishes and in the main Chelsea players there are still some who are being kept, I know the journey in the first season is not it will be easy, he will have to adapt first to his new squad during that process, maybe Pochettino will know where the weak points of each of his players are.

I don't know which players Pochettino will bring to Chelsea or will they focus more on selling players and they will make a few more changes midway through the season when the transfer window opens?

Chelsea can only hope for a plan in Pochettino.
Chelsea is in a state of disarray, and they are eager to recoup and make amends for their terrible form this season. Mauricio Pochettino, the manager of Chelsea, appreciates the trust put on him by the board and the fans, who are looking forward to fresh developments and alterations in the squad. Pochettino, who has been watching his players leave for Saudi clubs, has stated that he will not block anyone who wishes to leave the club. He merely needs to assemble a fresh group and add key players throughout the transfer window before he can compete confidently next season.

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I don't know which players Pochettino will bring to Chelsea or will they focus more on selling players and they will make a few more changes midway through the season when the transfer window opens?

Chelsea can only hope for a plan in Pochettino.
So far we've only seen what Pochettino is building at Chelsea, but we never know if it will have a big impact on his form next season. Chelsea are in a difficult transition period, but they have the possibility to return to good form if all the players work hard next season. The first season will not be as smooth sailing as one might think, it is very possible for Pochettino.

Instead of forcing a transfer at this time, I think it's good for Pochettino to wait to see how his team develops in the middle of the season. There is no guarantee whatsoever about the team's performance even if they replace all the old players with new players.
The fact that Chelsea are is letting go of some of their best players  to other clubs both in Europe and in Saudi Arabia should send a strong message that the new manager at the club Mauricio Pochettino has marked these same players as players that are surplus to his requirement.
The transfer season isn't yet finished and I'm very sure after mass clearance of players, Chelsea will definitely sign their replacement which will be the kind of players that the new manager will recommend to suit his style of football

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June 26, 2023, 08:49:20 PM
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I think everything is getting weird for Chelsea in the next season because they are losing many players and Pochettino will not have easy times in Chelsea in the next season. Koulibaly and Kanté both left this team and joined the Arabian teams, also Mateo Kovačić and Kai Havertz are leaving Chelsea.
Mason Mount got offers from Manchester United.
Mendy and Ziyech are both going to join the Saudi teams.
There are many players leaving Chelsea.
Chelsea fans were complaining about most of those players, they wanted those players to leave d club due to their performance last season, most of them believe that chelsea problem is not from the previous coaches which they changed, they believe something is wrong with the players also, because how will three coaches be sacked last season without any improvement in the team’s performance, then the players are also at fault. They want those players to go so that new once can come in, if their current coach can still continue with the same squad, then chelsea performance might get worst next season, so it’s just better he sell most of those players and get new once.

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June 26, 2023, 08:53:19 PM
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If you look at the material from the Chelsea players who arrived last season, I'm sure there have been good changes when Pochettino handled him. Pochettino throws away players he didn't buy and that's normal in my opinion. because this has also happened to Arsenal, Arteta has also thrown away Unai Emery's chosen players and almost all of them were thrown away, even though they were not sold directly, but they were slowly thrown away. Because when Arteta first became Arsenal coach he wasn't too good but he dared to overhaul young players plus a more efficient game system as the season progressed and finally entered the UCL zone again.

This will also happen to Chelsea one day, even though it can't be changed in one season, but I believe Chelsea will rise again and become a contender for the EPL League again.
Of course it is difficult for me to expect Chelsea to be outstanding next season just after they have signed Pochettino as their coach. Pochettino can build a good squad like he did with Tottenham, and at Chelsea he is very likely to do that too.

Pochettino needs time to return to good form for Chelsea after slumping last season. Chelsea will slowly return to form but it also depends on the management and his agreement with Pochettino. At least Chelsea will have a new hope with Pochettino, but I'm very curious about his form next season.

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If you look at the material from the Chelsea players who arrived last season, I'm sure there have been good changes when Pochettino handled him. Pochettino throws away players he didn't buy and that's normal in my opinion. because this has also happened to Arsenal, Arteta has also thrown away Unai Emery's chosen players and almost all of them were thrown away, even though they were not sold directly, but they were slowly thrown away. Because when Arteta first became Arsenal coach he wasn't too good but he dared to overhaul young players plus a more efficient game system as the season progressed and finally entered the UCL zone again.

This will also happen to Chelsea one day, even though it can't be changed in one season, but I believe Chelsea will rise again and become a contender for the EPL League again.
Of course it is difficult for me to expect Chelsea to be outstanding next season just after they have signed Pochettino as their coach. Pochettino can build a good squad like he did with Tottenham, and at Chelsea he is very likely to do that too.

Pochettino needs time to return to good form for Chelsea after slumping last season. Chelsea will slowly return to form but it also depends on the management and his agreement with Pochettino. At least Chelsea will have a new hope with Pochettino, but I'm very curious about his form next season.


One thing I hope for is that Manchester City will again have a strong competitive field for the title. The worst that can happen in the Premier League is when 8 weeks before the season ends one team is leading with a 20 points gap. The issue is that I believe this could actually go that way as several teams need to find themselves again first before they can aim higher and also perform well on most of the 38 game days. Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea, all teams that could usually play for the top for a while but perhaps we now have Newcastle and Arsenal instead. But I think it is close to being guaranteed that Manchester will play a good season at least and maybe a perfect season if other teams are pushing them.

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