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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 189

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November 10, 2023, 11:03:22 AM
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Chelsea are full of surprises but at this time I don't expect any surprise between them and Manchester City, even against them and Tottenham Hotspur the only took the advantage of two red cards and get motivated to score goals, but Manchester City are different from Tottenham that they played nine against eleven with, so their victory in the match can not justify the next match. I quite agree with you that if really Chelsea perform they may end draw but right now Chelsea to win Manchester City who currently on the top of the table and also one of the strongest team in English Premier league with the highest goal scorer this season, I will not said anything folder let just wait for tomorrow and see whether Chelsea will perform miracle and win or Manchester City will win.
I'm not surprised to watch the Blues defeats Tottenham Hotspur and breaking their unbeaten run in EPL this season. Chelsea are in possession with alot if potentials, one of which is picking incredible form against elite teams this season. Mauricio Pochettino is incharge and have been the core figure responsible to lifts the team's performance and standards in league positions. I think we're all ready for the big game this weekend. Who's accumulating three points and who's going home with zero points? Chelsea vs Manchester City at Stamford Bridge.

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November 10, 2023, 11:12:01 AM
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Yes, their chances are small:

UEFA Champions League 2023/24 - To Qualify From Group F - Newcastle United

Yes 3.20

No 1.30

But such is the group of death - every round (and especially two) everything turns upside down. After beating PSG they were favorites but now have become underdogs. There are still two games ahead so everything could turn around again. Tonali's disqualification and injuries have led to Newcastle having problems with their squad, now they are not playing optimally, so it's still not a matter of experience in my opinion.

So far, every team in Group F  has a chance of qualifying  for the Round of 16. Newcastle are now just 2 points behind PSG. And Dortmund are 3 points behind. If Newcastle  win their next match against PSG, the scenario will change completely. Newcastle  may be able to move  to the second place in the points table. And if they beat Milan in the last match, Newcastle can strengthen the second place in the table. It is still impossible to predict which two teams from Group F will play in the Round of 16.

Yes, we were lucky that the games worked out so that until the last round, each team will be forced to play for victory, since a defeat could throw it back 2 places at once. This is actually not such a usual case because groups of death often end with two teams suddenly dominating the other two and the final rounds being uninteresting.

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November 10, 2023, 11:14:02 AM
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Yes, I admit that the performance of the Manchester United team is very bad at the moment, Manchester United has experienced 9 defeats so far in 17 matches, although there is a lot of pressure from a number of Man Utd fans. However, this does not seem to dampen Ten Hag enthusiasm to continue to improve the performance of his players to continue coaching Manchester United and I heard rumors circulating that if Sir Alex Ferguson, the former Manchester United coach, still supports Ten Hag to continue coaching this club.
But if I may ask do you think Manchester United still have the chance to peak form this season?,  because what I'm seeing in this season concerning there performance is not encouraging at all, there losing is even more higher than there winnings, I could remember those days when they are in a good form and they always maintain first or second position on the premier League table every season do to there good performance.

Well Manchester United should just try and think things through to know were there failure is coming from and how to improve on that area to enable them come back to the next season with a good performance.
The opportunity is still there, because there are still many matches they will play, but the question is what steps will the coach or even the management take to make them reach their best performance? if they just stand still, then they will never be able to achieve that, instead they have to make a change, yes maybe the worst way is to fire Erik Ten Hag who has so far not given anything encouraging for them.
The transfer window is also still to come, so they should take advantage of the opportunity to make changes to themselves.

Chelsea are full of surprises but at this time I don't expect any surprise between them and Manchester City, even against them and Tottenham Hotspur the only took the advantage of two red cards and get motivated to score goals, but Manchester City are different from Tottenham that they played nine against eleven with, so their victory in the match can not justify the next match. I quite agree with you that if really Chelsea perform they may end draw but right now Chelsea to win Manchester City who currently on the top of the table and also one of the strongest team in English Premier league with the highest goal scorer this season, I will not said anything folder let just wait for tomorrow and see whether Chelsea will perform miracle and win or Manchester City will win.
I'm not surprised to watch the Blues defeats Tottenham Hotspur and breaking their unbeaten run in EPL this season. Chelsea are in possession with alot if potentials, one of which is picking incredible form against elite teams this season. Mauricio Pochettino is incharge and have been the core figure responsible to lifts the team's performance and standards in league positions. I think we're all ready for the big game this weekend. Who's accumulating three points and who's going home with zero points? Chelsea vs Manchester City at Stamford Bridge.

It's easy for me to answer that question, because I'm sure most people will put Manchester City as favorites in this match, yes including me.
The 2 red cards received by Tottenham players were indeed an advantage for Chelsea at that time and made them finally break Tottenham's unbeaten record. But whether the same thing can happen this week, I don't think it's that easy to happen. But if Chelsea can win it will be a very big surprise this week.

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November 10, 2023, 11:16:28 AM
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You are a million percent right.
Decades ago, Manchester United was a legendary club whose roster simply made you watch this amazing game. Legends like Runny and Giggs made the game of football simply gorgeous and exciting. You could watch it for hours.
But time has passed and now we see a pitiful sight. The team simply fell to the bottom of the tables...
The past has ended and been replaced by a new era and Manchester United should be able to produce new talents with good quality players like the past which was protected as a big club and if it always fails there is a problem with the coach because everything about the club is the coach's responsibility so that if it comes to the end Erik Ten Hag's season cannot return to its former glory, there is no choice, we have to look for a new coach who can make the best contribution to raising the performance of this club and bringing back its past with new talents.

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November 10, 2023, 12:13:08 PM
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Arsenal played really bad against Newcastle on the previous game week. It caused them to lose the game as well. They already had some games in which they played really badly even though they won those ones. However I believe we will see some progress this week. They should be able to win against Burnley home comfortably.

I saw them really solid against Sevilla last night by the way. They completely dominated the game in Emirates and won by 2-0 easily. This should be a good sign for their future games in the Premier League as well. The interesting thing is the recent games between Arsenal and Burnley ended up with close scores. Maybe this would be the one things change.  Smiley

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November 10, 2023, 12:23:31 PM
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You are a million percent right.
Decades ago, Manchester United was a legendary club whose roster simply made you watch this amazing game. Legends like Runny and Giggs made the game of football simply gorgeous and exciting. You could watch it for hours.
But time has passed and now we see a pitiful sight. The team simply fell to the bottom of the tables...
The past has ended and been replaced by a new era and Manchester United should be able to produce new talents with good quality players like the past which was protected as a big club and if it always fails there is a problem with the coach because everything about the club is the coach's responsibility so that if it comes to the end Erik Ten Hag's season cannot return to its former glory, there is no choice, we have to look for a new coach who can make the best contribution to raising the performance of this club and bringing back its past with new talents.
The last golden era that Manchester United had was in 2013 when they won the EPL for the last time and it has been 10 years if we count until now. During that time Manchester United often changed coaches from David Moyes, Jose Mourinho, Ole Solskjaer to now Erik Ten Hag and even now they have not won another EPL title. The lack of leadership that is passed on to the next generation is an important factor that has been forgotten and perhaps the commotion that Manchester United often experiences actually continues to add to the problems in almost every season. Erik ten Hag had a good start but now he has lost control of the performance he produced last season and even though Erik ten Hag has idealism in coaching, it is not enough for a club as big as Manchester United.

Finding a new coach is not an easy matter, especially since you have to be burdened with the big responsibility of handling Manchester United and anyone else. If there is a new coach who replaces Erik Ten Hag, of course the results will probably still be the same. This must start from the internal evolution of the club first so that everything can be improved and the previous failure to sell Manchester United to Qatari investors was also one of the factors that influenced this club to recover.

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November 10, 2023, 12:30:24 PM
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You are a million percent right.
Decades ago, Manchester United was a legendary club whose roster simply made you watch this amazing game. Legends like Runny and Giggs made the game of football simply gorgeous and exciting. You could watch it for hours.
But time has passed and now we see a pitiful sight. The team simply fell to the bottom of the tables...
The past has ended and been replaced by a new era and Manchester United should be able to produce new talents with good quality players like the past which was protected as a big club and if it always fails there is a problem with the coach because everything about the club is the coach's responsibility so that if it comes to the end Erik Ten Hag's season cannot return to its former glory, there is no choice, we have to look for a new coach who can make the best contribution to raising the performance of this club and bringing back its past with new talents.

Ten hag was expected to change the entire landscape of Manchester United this season. Because Manchester United's performance in the previous season was quite regular. But since the beginning of this season, Manchester United's performance has been very poor. And until now, coach Ten hag could not bring back the consistency of Manchester United's performance. The performance of Manchester United players is poor and their match strategy is also not good. They have been playing the same match strategy and formation since the beginning of the season. Even if the players are not performing well, Ten Hag is not changing his match strategy. I would say Manchester United should now try to get Zidane to coach Manchester United.

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Arsenal played really bad against Newcastle on the previous game week. It caused them to lose the game as well. They already had some games in which they played really badly even though they won those ones. However I believe we will see some progress this week. They should be able to win against Burnley home comfortably.

I saw them really solid against Sevilla last night by the way. They completely dominated the game in Emirates and won by 2-0 easily. This should be a good sign for their future games in the Premier League as well. The interesting thing is the recent games between Arsenal and Burnley ended up with close scores. Maybe this would be the one things change.  Smiley
Arsenal's defeat against Newcastle was quite surprising because so far their performance has been quite consistent. So I think this defeat is a big loss for Arsenal because it was also an opportunity for them to get second place, unfortunately, they couldn't take advantage of that opportunity. I think the match against Burnley will be an easy win for Arsenal and Burnley will end up being the punching bag for Arsenal because in this match Arsenal will play at home.

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Onana has not been putting in his best this season and is now looking as if Manchester United doesn't have a keeper to some extent, I feel Maguire has even improved even to the extent he scored when last did Maguire score a goal, that's an improvement and I know manchester united have been looking for ways to sell Maguire but no club as interest yet. Manchester United's situation is bad concerning sixteen goals is no child play, and their defense is just too weak, is either ten hag works on the goalkeeper or the defense because the two clubs need replacement. the fans are not happy with the state of Manchester United's performance, there won't be any serious change now because even when they play against weak clubs they still lose.
It's ironic that Man United used to consider pushing Maguire out when he's been one of the best performers on the team right now. Last season, I doubted Maguire's suitability for the captain's armband, but this season, besides Maguire, I haven't seen anyone deserving, not even Bruno Fernandes.
As for Onana, he needs better mental stability. If he can achieve this, I believe he'll become a cornerstone goalkeeper for Man United in the future.
Chelsea's success in beating Tottenham deserves appreciation, considering that was the first defeat for Ange squad this season. However, this victory was a victory where luck played a bigger role, yes, that's the red card I mean. On the other hand, Pochettino squad latest victory will not mean much if in their other matches they will fail, they will again sink at the hands of Man City.
Yeah, I agree. Chelsea's win against Tottenham doesn't necessarily mean they played exceptionally well. Chelsea seems a bit like Man United at the moment, vulnerable and prone to losses at any time.
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November 10, 2023, 12:42:11 PM
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Onana has poor debut for Manchester United but again he is only one player in the squad and defense system. Other players must cover Onana better as no goalkeeper can block all shots from opponents.

when Onana and Maguire are played in the squad, it is the best chance for United's opponents to win. Ten Hag had to admit how his current team was very bad. they scored 12 goals, but they conceded 16 times.
I'm sure Ten Hag as a manager knows where his team's weaknesses come from. I don't know what he did to make the fans dissatisfied. on social media, we can see how fans condemn several players, even Ten Hag is not free from fans' blasphemy. they don't just want to see their team win against weak teams. but they want to see how United shows improved play.

Onana has not been putting in his best this season and is now looking as if Manchester United doesn't have a keeper to some extent, I feel Maguire has even improved even to the extent he scored when last did Maguire score a goal, that's an improvement and I know manchester united have been looking for ways to sell Maguire but no club as interest yet. Manchester United's situation is bad concerning sixteen goals is no child play, and their defense is just too weak, is either ten hag works on the goalkeeper or the defense because the two clubs need replacement. the fans are not happy with the state of Manchester United's performance, there won't be any serious change now because even when they play against weak clubs they still lose.

What are you saying? Have you gotten to check the stats about the save ratio and the position Andrea Onana ranks? I don't like how Onana is being targeted.
Will you compare Onana with Ederson? No you won't because,  Ederson is being backed by a team that produces results every weekend.
I won't say same for Onana because even with the improvement of Harry Maguire, they still sucks and will go nowhere with this defense.
Andrea Onana is a good goalkeeper believe it or not, he has also adapted well. Erik Ten Hag has just seen his best defenders out Injured.

Both Luke Shaw and Lisandro Martinez are out Injured. They are the most trusted options for Erik Ten Hag in the heart of the defense.

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November 10, 2023, 12:55:28 PM
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Onana has poor debut for Manchester United but again he is only one player in the squad and defense system. Other players must cover Onana better as no goalkeeper can block all shots from opponents.

when Onana and Maguire are played in the squad, it is the best chance for United's opponents to win. Ten Hag had to admit how his current team was very bad. they scored 12 goals, but they conceded 16 times.
I'm sure Ten Hag as a manager knows where his team's weaknesses come from. I don't know what he did to make the fans dissatisfied. on social media, we can see how fans condemn several players, even Ten Hag is not free from fans' blasphemy. they don't just want to see their team win against weak teams. but they want to see how United shows improved play.

Onana has not been putting in his best this season and is now looking as if Manchester United doesn't have a keeper to some extent, I feel Maguire has even improved even to the extent he scored when last did Maguire score a goal, that's an improvement and I know manchester united have been looking for ways to sell Maguire but no club as interest yet. Manchester United's situation is bad concerning sixteen goals is no child play, and their defense is just too weak, is either ten hag works on the goalkeeper or the defense because the two clubs need replacement. the fans are not happy with the state of Manchester United's performance, there won't be any serious change now because even when they play against weak clubs they still lose.

What are you saying? Have you gotten to check the stats about the save ratio and the position Andrea Onana ranks? I don't like how Onana is being targeted.
Will you compare Onana with Ederson? No you won't because,  Ederson is being backed by a team that produces results every weekend.
I won't say same for Onana because even with the improvement of Harry Maguire, they still sucks and will go nowhere with this defense.
Andrea Onana is a good goalkeeper believe it or not, he has also adapted well. Erik Ten Hag has just seen his best defenders out Injured.

Both Luke Shaw and Lisandro Martinez are out Injured. They are the most trusted options for Erik Ten Hag in the heart of the defense.
Statistically looking at Andre Onana's goalkeeping performance this season, one would say that he isn't a good goalkeeper and that's because of the fact that he's conceded more goals than most of the top teams in not just England but also in European Cup stage.
However, it's also worthy to note that Onana's poor goalkeeping this season is caused by the team's overall poor performance especially Manchester United's defense. We all saw Andre Onana at Ajax and when he was with Inter Milan and can agree to the fact that he's a good world class goalkeeper but has been reduced to an average goalkeeper because of the general performance of his current team

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November 10, 2023, 12:58:13 PM
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I'm not surprised to watch the Blues defeats Tottenham Hotspur and breaking their unbeaten run in EPL this season. Chelsea are in possession with alot if potentials, one of which is picking incredible form against elite teams this season. Mauricio Pochettino is incharge and have been the core figure responsible to lifts the team's performance and standards in league positions.
Mind you that Chelsea are in tenth position and they have only 15 points from 11 games which is a poor return for a club like Chelsea, they have also won only 4 games in ths EPL this season. Spurs would never have lost that game, but they went two men down and had to play for over 40 minutes with just 9 players, they also had a couple of injuries to important players. I don't think Chelsea are resurgent, neither are they improving, and if their fans think they are flying right now, they'd be brought back to earth when they face City this Sunday.
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Manchester United lost all ground. Everything has been wasted, time and effort, but I don’t understand why! Rather, it’s all a waste of time and energy for the fans.
As for me, this is the end of the history of a good and successful club..
If you say that about a club called Manchester United, what about the clubs that are in the relegation zone until now, especially in the Premier League? I don't think it's appropriate to say that every club is just wasting time and energy, because as long as every club can still struggle through their matches and the way they play in this ongoing season. So there is nothing wrong with that, even though the results are not as expected by the fans themselves, because giving up to conditions and circumstances is more embarrassing than bad results after struggling.

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November 10, 2023, 01:18:53 PM
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Chelsea's success in beating Tottenham deserves appreciation, considering that was the first defeat for Ange squad this season. However, this victory was a victory where luck played a bigger role, yes, that's the red card I mean. On the other hand, Pochettino squad latest victory will not mean much if in their other matches they will fail, they will again sink at the hands of Man City.

On paper, I don't doubt the quality of Pep Guardiola squad at all, and I also can't underestimate Chelsea. Who would have thought that a surprise would happen again, and we would all be surprised again by the results.

But whatever the scenario, I think betting on City winning is still very safe, because we know the risk is smaller. Chelsea only benefited from playing at home, on the other hand I saw many things that made Pep's squad worthy of being superior.
Yes Chelsea came out lucky in the match with Agne but it should be noted that red card is part of the game, their victory would have to be a memorable one and one to smile at if they probably grab a point off city come this weekend ,Pep’s city are league leaders all thanks to Chelsea, would the perfect thank You gift be defeating Chelsea

 Pep would be gunning for his 4th PL title in a row and this Chelsea side doesn’t have the tactical strength to defeat city who takes 1 in every 3 chances, Man City will sure come out Victors of this encounter, I think the upset will be at the Molineux Stadium, where Wolves takes on Tottenham, they are down on two key players who got booked with a red but they could still channel all the anger from Chelsea’s defeat to Wolverhampton.

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Manchester United lost all ground. Everything has been wasted, time and effort, but I don’t understand why! Rather, it’s all a waste of time and energy for the fans.
As for me, this is the end of the history of a good and successful club..
If you say that about a club called Manchester United, what about the clubs that are in the relegation zone until now, especially in the Premier League? I don't think it's appropriate to say that every club is just wasting time and energy, because as long as every club can still struggle through their matches and the way they play in this ongoing season. So there is nothing wrong with that, even though the results are not as expected by the fans themselves, because giving up to conditions and circumstances is more embarrassing than bad results after struggling.

Manchester United with the teams that are always in the relegation zone clearly have different qualities and therefore, because Manchester United so far still not managed to have a stable performance . So ya, at least Manchester United in this season is quite or maybe very disappointing . Indeed, last season Manchester United managed to get good results, until Manchester United managed to finish in the top four and get a Champion League ticket . But unfortunately, this season Manchester United failed again but even so, I personally still think that results like this can still be said to be reasonable. Because anyway, basically the great era of Manchester United is over ofcourse, when the era of Sir Ferguson ended also at that time.

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November 10, 2023, 02:01:21 PM
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I'm not surprised to watch the Blues defeats Tottenham Hotspur and breaking their unbeaten run in EPL this season. Chelsea are in possession with alot if potentials, one of which is picking incredible form against elite teams this season. Mauricio Pochettino is incharge and have been the core figure responsible to lifts the team's performance and standards in league positions.
Mind you that Chelsea are in tenth position and they have only 15 points from 11 games which is a poor return for a club like Chelsea, they have also won only 4 games in ths EPL this season. Spurs would never have lost that game, but they went two men down and had to play for over 40 minutes with just 9 players, they also had a couple of injuries to important players. I don't think Chelsea are resurgent, neither are they improving, and if their fans think they are flying right now, they'd be brought back to earth when they face City this Sunday.
Completely agree with you bud, like I think I mentioned in my last comment on this thread, I wasn't opportuned to watch the match between Chelsea and Tottenham, and I did was very surprised when I learnt that they (Chelsea) beat Tottenham, I was like, how can this be true? What really happened? I had a lot of questions running through my mind.

Later learnt that Tottenham played with just 9 players as two of their players unfortunately got suspended from the match due to them being awarded a red card, I must say that it was a very unfortunate match for spurs, and Chelsea I believe can not boost of deserving the win they got from that match, it is just luck that decided to smile on them that day, and Chelsea fans who are truly sensible should know this already and not boost.

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November 10, 2023, 02:05:00 PM
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Arsenal played really bad against Newcastle on the previous game week. It caused them to lose the game as well. They already had some games in which they played really badly even though they won those ones. However I believe we will see some progress this week. They should be able to win against Burnley home comfortably.

I saw them really solid against Sevilla last night by the way. They completely dominated the game in Emirates and won by 2-0 easily. This should be a good sign for their future games in the Premier League as well. The interesting thing is the recent games between Arsenal and Burnley ended up with close scores. Maybe this would be the one things change.  Smiley
They have realised their mistake and try to amend it between them and Sevilla, the game was totally in favor of Arsenal, they played a very beautiful game which i am convinced and have confident in this week game between them and Burnley, since October 3th that Burnley had their win against Luton Town they have been in a loss form despite their losing Arsenal should not underestimate them because this day that lower rank club are always serious when playing with higher rank club, I expect Arsenal should score many goals as possible.

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November 10, 2023, 02:12:44 PM
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They have realised their mistake and try to amend it between them and Sevilla, the game was totally in favor of Arsenal, they played a very beautiful game which i am convinced and have confident in this week game between them and Burnley, since October 3th that Burnley had their win against Luton Town they have been in a loss form despite their losing Arsenal should not underestimate them because this day that lower rank club are always serious when playing with higher rank club, I expect Arsenal should score many goals as possible.
Gunners defeat against Newcastle United was planned, they had players and the strategy but couldn't install this technique against the Magpies who were seriously aggressive throughout the game. Arsenal are enlisted among the competitive teams that will go home with major trophies this season. Gunners have been really fierce in league games and Mikel Arteta having tremendous moment in the club, he deserves all the accolades when his team wins a game because it's really been a long time Arsenal performance was this outstanding.

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Later learnt that Tottenham played with just 9 players as two of their players unfortunately got suspended from the match due to them being awarded a red card, I must say that it was a very unfortunate match for spurs, and Chelsea I believe can not boost of deserving the win they got from that match, it is just luck that decided to smile on them that day, and Chelsea fans who are truly sensible should know this already and not boost.
To be fair, it is Spurs' problem if their players are indisciplined to receive two red cards in one game and it is no business of Chelsea. The thing is, i personally think Spurs would have beaten them if Romero and Udogie were not sent off (but we'd never know what would have happened), but i would not call it luck on the part of Chelsea, they got the job done as expected.

Having said that, what i didn't see from Chelsea is any sort of resurgence, even when they had the two man advantage, they were not moving the ball so well, and they didn't control the game as i expected them to do with the advantage they had, yes they won 4-1, but the scoreline somewhat doesn't tell the true picture and i don't think they stand a chance against City on Sunday.
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I'm not surprised to watch the Blues defeats Tottenham Hotspur and breaking their unbeaten run in EPL this season. Chelsea are in possession with alot if potentials, one of which is picking incredible form against elite teams this season. Mauricio Pochettino is incharge and have been the core figure responsible to lifts the team's performance and standards in league positions.
Mind you that Chelsea are in tenth position and they have only 15 points from 11 games which is a poor return for a club like Chelsea, they have also won only 4 games in ths EPL this season. Spurs would never have lost that game, but they went two men down and had to play for over 40 minutes with just 9 players, they also had a couple of injuries to important players. I don't think Chelsea are resurgent, neither are they improving, and if their fans think they are flying right now, they'd be brought back to earth when they face City this Sunday.
With what Chelsea players has showcased so far in some games show that Chelsea have a long way to go in the premier league competition before they will begin to come close to 5th position or 4th position because, their performance in this summer is not constant compare to what Tottenham Hotspur, Manchester city, Arsenal and Liverpool are displaying in this summer which is the evidence any strong team that is well prepared can display.

 
I don't think Chelsea can beat Manchester city in their next game because, Manchester city case is different from Tottenham Hotspur which Manchester city players will not allow Chelsea players to breath well until they secure victory from them to win the 3 points from the game which is possible for team like Manchester city.

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