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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 90 (46.4%)
Liverpool - 32 (16.5%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.1%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.6%)
Manchester United - 14 (7.2%)
Totenham - 7 (3.6%)
Newcastle - 2 (1%)
Other - 3 (1.5%)
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June 04, 2022, 04:36:43 PM
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I don't know how many people will see this, but let me tell us the problem with Manchester United since Ferguson left
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In programming, we have Front-end programmers and Back-end programmers. Then we have Full stack programmers. A full stack programmer is a back-end programmer + a front-end programmer.

In Manchester United, what happens in the field and what we see in television is front-end while what the board does is back-end.
Sir Alex was a full stack coach, which means he knows what happens at both front and back-end. Then other coaches only have knowledge of the front-end. And it is the back-end that drives the front-end. So, that is the reason the coaches weren't doing well.

I'm not sure if your analogy is correct, but judging by what they write in the news, Eric Ten Hag will be a coach very similar to Ferguson in terms of power. He will be directly involved in the implementation of transfers and other managerial decisions, so if this was the problem at United, then it turns out that next season will be better as it is at least partially solved.
The fight that Ralph Reg fought would be appreciated if what the media writes is correct. The power of De Grazier and the old boys of Manchester United was too fierce on the coaches. Ralph broke the york by telling the untold truths. We shall remember him for that.
I doubt if the Eric will have such an access as Sir Fergie which is why Ralf opted to leave than dual his role.
Consultancy role is what he could handle with his main job, but the heat and pressure of Manchester United internal politics will not let him.

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June 04, 2022, 04:49:10 PM
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Comparing Manchester United's current condition to that of Ferguson's tenure is the same as not wanting to accept reality, and that's the attitude of supporters who are new to Manchester United or are new to football.
I don't think they're comparing the success that Ferguson had during his time in charge, but they want the trail to not completely disappear. We know since Ferguson decided to leave Manchester United it was like losing the captain and it was a disappointment for his supporters. I think it's good as motivation to manage this team.

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June 04, 2022, 07:00:40 PM
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Manchester United have played very badly in the last season. So, I think even though Manchester United have got Erik ten Hag I really don't think the expectation should be too high. Everyone has to realize that it takes time to build up a team that will actually play competitively and ends at least in the top 4.

The bar is going to be high for the team but honestly the fans would know if the team really improve or not on the next season. It doesnt mean that fans are expecting the team to actually win the Premier League next season but if we actually could win then I dont see whats wrong with that. Yeah most people are expecting them to win but no one is really going to blame them if they dont
i don't think the bar would be that high for them especially after a bad season, i think most of their fans would be more than happy to finish fourth which is still kind of hard for them because of how many good teams are in the premier league, if man utd manage to get a qualifying spot for the champions league, fans would be okay with.
I think with Erik Ten Hag joining Manchester United, fans are expecting a better Manchester United next season. Sincerely, Manchester United needs to sign a proper right back this summer and a good center back, that's when I can say the bar is going to be high. Anything less than that, we can all expect the next season to be the just like the concluded one.

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June 04, 2022, 07:19:56 PM
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Manchester United have played very badly in the last season. So, I think even though Manchester United have got Erik ten Hag I really don't think the expectation should be too high. Everyone has to realize that it takes time to build up a team that will actually play competitively and ends at least in the top 4.

The bar is going to be high for the team but honestly the fans would know if the team really improve or not on the next season. It doesnt mean that fans are expecting the team to actually win the Premier League next season but if we actually could win then I dont see whats wrong with that. Yeah most people are expecting them to win but no one is really going to blame them if they dont
i don't think the bar would be that high for them especially after a bad season, i think most of their fans would be more than happy to finish fourth which is still kind of hard for them because of how many good teams are in the premier league, if man utd manage to get a qualifying spot for the champions league, fans would be okay with.
I think with Erik Ten Hag joining Manchester United, fans are expecting a better Manchester United next season. Sincerely, Manchester United needs to sign a proper right back this summer and a good center back, that's when I can say the bar is going to be high. Anything less than that, we can all expect the next season to be the just like the concluded one.

Ten Hag knows very well what he does like a football team. And they know that at United too. So United's supporters also have a reason to be optimistic. Last season was actually a bad season for United, and the season before that they came in 2nd. A 2nd place would be a nice result but Manchester City normally seems way too good. But with Ten Hag, things will look very different.

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June 04, 2022, 07:32:09 PM
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Honestly, what I'm waiting for is how Manchester United will improve themselves to look at the Premier League so that it can be better. Because we know this season they have lost their way in everything, and that is very disappointing for their supporters. Now they have plenty of time to prepare everything. And I'm looking forward to what improvements have changed in this team.
Manchester United did not do well last season,but they have a new coach now,soneone who has the  experience,someone who knows how to handle and bring out the best out of his players.Normally,Manchester United is supposed to be one of the best teams in the premier league,but they lacked good management.They have good players that can win any tittle for you,but  still were unable to deliver because they were not managed well.If they buy more players,and make some changes at the club,I believe they will do well next season.
Exactly new coach give new hope for Manchester United on next season but can't guarantee they will success lead as top standing on Primer League next season. Almost all manager arrived after Sir Alex Ferguson out never success bring Manchester United on top glory, only with Jose Mourinho success on UEFA Europe League and other from David Moyes, Louis van Gaal, Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Ralf Ragnick can't give any trophies for Manchester United. Not any potential manager arrived on Manchester United success get good dreaming when still have Sir Alex Ferguson.
The situation at Manchester United is somehow irredeemable but hopefully with the proper support of the board given to Erik Ten Hag, things will be different with his era because prior to this time, every new manager that comes to Manchester United give the fans glimmer of hope but it vanishes within a short time. This has been the way of Manchester United since Sir Alex Ferguson.

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June 04, 2022, 07:38:38 PM
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Erik Ten Hag is clearing and shaking the Manchester United squad. Everyone agrees Manchester United need to overhaul most of their players and that's what Erik Ten Hag is doing. In just 2 days of resuming office, Paul Pogba, Jesse Lingard and Juan Mata are axed out already. I think more players will likely be seeing the door out of the club too.
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June 04, 2022, 07:44:57 PM
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Manchester City's spending this much money is related to their bringing Pep Guardiola as their manager. Because he wanted to build a dream team here and Manchester City were ready to give all he wanted. Maybe they have spent an incredible amount of money for players so far but they are benefiting from this in a great way now. They have been very successful in the Premier League since then. The only absent achievement for them is winning the Champions League title. But after this Haaland signing, I started to believe they will achieve it too.

Nothing can guarantee the achievement of a club, even though Haaland joined Manchester City, it doesn't mean they can win the UCL this season, for me, the UCL is a curse for Manchester City, no matter how hard they want to win the title, the more difficult it is for them to get it. same as PSG, LOL Cheesy.

BTW, Could it be that we will only see the rivalry between Liverpool and Manchester City in the EPL next season like the last 2 seasons?

For two seasons, they have been competing hard with each other indeed. Chelsea have a potential to join this race too actually but somehow things went really bad for them in this season. Tuchel's Chelsea should be able to do better than this next time. They need to make some changes in the team and they have already started to do it. Rüdiger left the team and they are trying to sign Jules Kounde now. Aside from that, Chelsea can make their attacking line even better next time. They are likely to lose Lukaku now and I hope they can find a very good striker in case they lose him.

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June 04, 2022, 07:48:54 PM
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Erik Ten Hag is clearing and shaking the Manchester United squad. Everyone agrees Manchester United need to overhaul most of their players and that's what Erik Ten Hag is doing. In just 2 days of resuming office, Paul Pogba, Jesse Lingard and Juan Mata are axed out already. I think more players will likely be seeing the door out of the club too.

What we must appreciate is the courage of the new manager to make this overhaul because bringing in a new squad means it takes longer adjustments
Of course there is a risk there if new players can't adapt quickly then the situation could be worse than before this will be a challenge for Erik Ten Hag

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June 04, 2022, 08:08:36 PM
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Manchester City's spending this much money is related to their bringing Pep Guardiola as their manager. Because he wanted to build a dream team here and Manchester City were ready to give all he wanted. Maybe they have spent an incredible amount of money for players so far but they are benefiting from this in a great way now. They have been very successful in the Premier League since then. The only absent achievement for them is winning the Champions League title. But after this Haaland signing, I started to believe they will achieve it too.

Nothing can guarantee the achievement of a club, even though Haaland joined Manchester City, it doesn't mean they can win the UCL this season, for me, the UCL is a curse for Manchester City, no matter how hard they want to win the title, the more difficult it is for them to get it. same as PSG, LOL Cheesy.

BTW, Could it be that we will only see the rivalry between Liverpool and Manchester City in the EPL next season like the last 2 seasons?

For two seasons, they have been competing hard with each other indeed. Chelsea have a potential to join this race too actually but somehow things went really bad for them in this season. Tuchel's Chelsea should be able to do better than this next time. They need to make some changes in the team and they have already started to do it. Rüdiger left the team and they are trying to sign Jules Kounde now. Aside from that, Chelsea can make their attacking line even better next time. They are likely to lose Lukaku now and I hope they can find a very good striker in case they lose him.

At the beginning of last season Chelsea had become a threat to all the top teams they are very confident after winning the Champions League also for the arrival of Lukaku
But surprisingly their performance continues to decline. Can Chelsea still get new players after receiving sanctions from local authorities, related to the club owner in the boycott? this problem greatly affects Chelsea and gets several restrictions.

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June 04, 2022, 08:25:57 PM
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Manchester City's spending this much money is related to their bringing Pep Guardiola as their manager. Because he wanted to build a dream team here and Manchester City were ready to give all he wanted. Maybe they have spent an incredible amount of money for players so far but they are benefiting from this in a great way now. They have been very successful in the Premier League since then. The only absent achievement for them is winning the Champions League title. But after this Haaland signing, I started to believe they will achieve it too.

Nothing can guarantee the achievement of a club, even though Haaland joined Manchester City, it doesn't mean they can win the UCL this season, for me, the UCL is a curse for Manchester City, no matter how hard they want to win the title, the more difficult it is for them to get it. same as PSG, LOL Cheesy.

BTW, Could it be that we will only see the rivalry between Liverpool and Manchester City in the EPL next season like the last 2 seasons?
Theoretically, teams lower in the standings also have a chance to compete for the cup next season. But in fact, we will most likely see only Liverpool and Manchester City "fight" again, which, in my opinion, is not so interesting. I wish other teams could compete for the championship title too. It would be great if Chelsea, Tottenham, Arsenal can compete with the leaders in the new season. Well, at least one of them.

Maybe then there is no need to play so many games in a season, but immediately limit yourself to a match between Liverpool and Manchester City according to the results of which the winner will receive a cup? Cheesy Of course, this is a joke, but it will not be so interesting that in the new season only these 2 teams will score the maximum number of points. I hope to see at least one more team that can really compete for the EPL champion title.

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June 04, 2022, 08:30:38 PM
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Chelsea are a closed book now when it comes to their transfer activity in this summer. They already started in a negative way as they lost Antonio Rudiger to Real Madrid. They lost a wonderful defender like him on a free transfer which must be really devastating for them. They would have made a nice amount of profit at least. Anyway, Kounde seem like he will fill his place in the starting eleven. I wonder what Tuchel's strategies will be in the summer transfer window. Chelsea already have a good squad but it wouldn't be bad to add a few more players to be more powerful.

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June 04, 2022, 08:35:19 PM
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Chelsea are a closed book now when it comes to their transfer activity in this summer. They already started in a negative way as they lost Antonio Rudiger to Real Madrid. They lost a wonderful defender like him on a free transfer which must be really devastating for them. They would have made a nice amount of profit at least. Anyway, Kounde seem like he will fill his place in the starting eleven. I wonder what Tuchel's strategies will be in the summer transfer window. Chelsea already have a good squad but it wouldn't be bad to add a few more players to be more powerful.
Chelsea did not make the deal that was surposed to make a lot of change in the club formations, and this season transfers are all channels towards the realization of that simple goal. Chelsea needs to set the record straight for next season.

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June 04, 2022, 08:39:14 PM
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I see this current Newcastle owners as ruthless and patient too. It is true that patience is a virtue and key for good management. I like the way they are not in any hurry in making noise about transfers. I am pretty sure there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes at club and they will soon begin signing immediately the window opens.
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June 04, 2022, 08:39:34 PM
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Chelsea are a closed book now when it comes to their transfer activity in this summer. They already started in a negative way as they lost Antonio Rudiger to Real Madrid. They lost a wonderful defender like him on a free transfer which must be really devastating for them. They would have made a nice amount of profit at least. Anyway, Kounde seem like he will fill his place in the starting eleven. I wonder what Tuchel's strategies will be in the summer transfer window. Chelsea already have a good squad but it wouldn't be bad to add a few more players to be more powerful.

Chelsea are having lot of problems. Its not only Rudiger but also Christensen and Alonso on the list to leave Chelsea. Chelsea should have proceeded with contract extensions earlier as other clubs were fast enough to talk to them and convince them to join them. Azpilicueta was also out of contract and clubs were also after him but he choose to continue at Chelsea. Even if Kounde joins, they will still need few more defenders in their defence line.
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June 04, 2022, 08:56:52 PM
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Chelsea are having lot of problems. Its not only Rudiger but also Christensen and Alonso on the list to leave Chelsea. Chelsea should have proceeded with contract extensions earlier as other clubs were fast enough to talk to them and convince them to join them. Azpilicueta was also out of contract and clubs were also after him but he choose to continue at Chelsea. Even if Kounde joins, they will still need few more defenders in their defence line.
One big problem with Chelsea currently is that they are lacking quality defenders in the team. Blues boss, Thomas Tuchel should set in proper scouts to monitor tough defenders, it's not all about signing those players that are trending. Like De Ligt which had an impressive performance in a single season, the next thing, Juventus hurry and sign the player. Now the player is struggling to fit in the game pattern of the old lady. Chelsea should go for defenders that are good not base on their single performance in a season, rather how long the defender can defend ball when under pressure.

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June 04, 2022, 08:58:07 PM
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Chelsea are a closed book now when it comes to their transfer activity in this summer. They already started in a negative way as they lost Antonio Rudiger to Real Madrid. They lost a wonderful defender like him on a free transfer which must be really devastating for them. They would have made a nice amount of profit at least. Anyway, Kounde seem like he will fill his place in the starting eleven. I wonder what Tuchel's strategies will be in the summer transfer window. Chelsea already have a good squad but it wouldn't be bad to add a few more players to be more powerful.

Chelsea are having lot of problems. Its not only Rudiger but also Christensen and Alonso on the list to leave Chelsea. Chelsea should have proceeded with contract extensions earlier as other clubs were fast enough to talk to them and convince them to join them. Azpilicueta was also out of contract and clubs were also after him but he choose to continue at Chelsea. Even if Kounde joins, they will still need few more defenders in their defence line.

As far as I know Chelsea cannot carry out any transfer activities this season including renewing players' contracts unless Chelsea have a new owner then the ban will be stopped. I can't imagine how Chelsea went through this season with all limitations they have no other choice Chelsea must be sold, so far I haven't heard of any negotiations.

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June 04, 2022, 08:58:36 PM
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Chelsea are a closed book now when it comes to their transfer activity in this summer. They already started in a negative way as they lost

Chelsea are having lot of problems. Its not only Rudiger but also Christensen and Alonso on the list to leave Chelsea. Chelsea should have proceeded with contract extensions earlier as other clubs were fast enough to talk to them and convince them to join them. Azpilicueta was also out of contract and clubs were also after him but he choose to continue at Chelsea. Even if Kounde joins, they will still need few more defenders in their defence line.



Chelsea FC really need to let some players leave the team to have room for other players to come in, in order to strengthen the team, Azpilicueta, Christensen and Alonso need go , but I would like to see Georgino stay and Rudiger as well because they still have more to offer the club. I don't really like the performance of the team towards the end of the season due to most players was over used
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June 04, 2022, 09:12:19 PM
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Chelsea FC really need to let some players leave the team to have room for other players to come in, in order to strengthen the team, Azpilicueta, Christensen and Alonso need go , but I would like to see Georgino stay and Rudiger as well because they still have more to offer the club. I don't really like the performance of the team towards the end of the season due to most players was over used
I don't know how far the deal between Abramovich and the new owners went but without a new leader, the situation in Chelsea will remain chaotic. UK gov literally destroyed the team, seeing them staying in a CL spot this season was an achievement in its own after their performance drop.
So far there is rumours about Lukaku, Jorginho, Kante, Christensen and Alonso wanting to leave the club.
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June 04, 2022, 09:20:27 PM
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Erik Ten Hag is clearing and shaking the Manchester United squad. Everyone agrees Manchester United need to overhaul most of their players and that's what Erik Ten Hag is doing. In just 2 days of resuming office, Paul Pogba, Jesse Lingard and Juan Mata are axed out already. I think more players will likely be seeing the door out of the club too.

Juan Mata was almost absent last season. Paul Pogba could not give the desired performance. These two players and others were expected to contribute more to the team. Change will be good for both the club and the football players. Juan Mata and Paul Pogba need new challenges. An overhaul on the players will also be good for Manchester United.

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June 04, 2022, 09:23:51 PM
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Manchester United have lot of good players,they don't need to buy lot of good players but the coach have to install a good winning mentality in the squad, ten Hag didn't sign big money signing at Ajax but they played one of the best football in Europe, even going as far of reaching the uefa champions League semi final,but he need very big signings because the league is very competitive and Manchester United are down in form.
Yes, Man United actually has many quality or good players. Ten hag doesn't need to buy many new players, he just need to consider buying new players with some positions only. What they need to improve is on the attacking and midfield lines, these lines are lack of players. While for defense line, they have some players but lack of quality and consistency. So, they have some problems here, not only about the need of new players only, they need to improve the players' consistency besides the winning mentality. With the capability of Ten Hag, I am sure he can deal with these problems.

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