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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.1%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.8%)
Arsenal - 39 (21.2%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.5%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 184

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November 14, 2023, 02:51:57 PM
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For the Liverpool vs Manchester City match, I really don't know what outcome to predict for this match. Even though last season Liverpool experienced a lucky defeat by Manchester City. But last season Liverpool was less consistent. But this season Liverpool is in better condition than last season. So everything becomes more difficult to predict. But because Manchester City is the host. So there is a big possibility that Manchester City will win the match again.
Last season Liverpool were less consistent because of problems with the squad but now they have managed to recover and rebuild in the current Liverpool era which is much better to minimize points with Man United.

Yes this is a difficult match to guess but surprises will always be there, if you look at the betting market now about this match then the odds comparison is very far that Liverpool has @4.4 and Man City $1.64 we will find it difficult to determine whether this will be a draw?
I think the game will be pretty even despite the betting odds being so far apart.
Considering that Manchester City is the host, it is natural that Manchester City is the favorite in this match. But actually the Liverpool we see this season has a fairly reliable performance. So even though Liverpool played as a guest at home Manchester City. But it doesn't rule out the possibility that Liverpool will surprise the home team. I'm still hesitant to make a choice. But in the match against Chelsea, I actually saw that Manchester City's back line had gaps. But maybe in the next match Pep Guardiola will definitely fix it. Because Pep is usually good at overcoming every loophole that starts to appear in the strategy he creates for the squad he trains.
Liverpool has every chance to win this match! What can’t be said about the bookmakers, they believe that Manchester City will emerge victorious in this battle. I think both teams are strong enough! it all depends on the moral and physical preparation of the teams, and also a large part depends on the support of the fans.
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November 14, 2023, 02:57:48 PM
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After watching many matches involving various clubs, I can make an informed guess about the champion for the 2023/2024 championship, Manchester City boasts talented players and an awesome coach. Their consistent performance each year reinforces my belief that they will victorious but Liverpool, Chelsea, and Arsenal need to give more effort to compete at the same level.
Manchester city has been excellent this season and that's absolutely in no doubts because it's reflected even in their results. Their performance this session has really been brilliant and in the past two seasons they have had very similar brilliance in their performance and have most times been the favourite for the league title.

Chelsea is just beginning to get back in good form because like it was seen they had a weak start this season and weren't looking promising at all but in recent times they seem to have been showing some gradual improvement but I think it's yet too early to start seeing them as able to compete at such level, tho it's very possible they get back inform and get in on the race to win the league title but not at this time they still have some few more games to play after which we could tell they are now back strong enough, but Liverpool and Arsenal has got great potential here in the premier league.

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November 14, 2023, 03:01:21 PM
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I wouldn't say that Chelsea's defense did too badly  against Manchester City. Because from the beginning of this match, we have seen that Chelsea played completely attacking strategy. It is very difficult to play attacking strategy while keeping the  defense strong. Moreover, opponent Manchester City's attack is the best attack in the Premier League. The way Chelsea played against them was good enough. Although Chelsea conceded four goals in this match, they managed to score four goals. I saw the performance of both the teams in the match. The way Manchester City attacked, if Chelsea's defense did not do well, Chelsea would have conceded several more goals in this match.
The attack and defense strategy worked very well, it was proven that Manchester City was overwhelmed in that match. The victory that should have been scheduled long ago to belong to Manchester City was finally dashed by a brilliant performance from Chelsea, even the defense which was known for being strong was destroyed by the Chelsea players. I think this is the best strategy battle between coaches so far and the results are very commensurate with what they showed. However, each team conceded 4 goals and of course it was all because the attack lines of both teams were so dangerous.

The statistics are enough to prove that the performance of these two teams is quite equal in the match, I honestly did not expect that Chelsea would bring a big change in the match, Chelsea managed to take 17 shots at Manchester  City's goal by producing 9 shots on target, and Manchester City under them, Guardiola's squad was only able to take 15 shots and 10 of them were on target, so with this I will slightly conclude that what you say is true that Manchester City was overwhelmed by the attack of a team that they initially might think they could not do anything.

Pochettino has shown the impact of the true contribution of what he has applied to his squad, and this is strong enough evidence, basically it is very difficult to be able to fight Manchester City or just to survive, but Chelsea can break some assumptions that they are no longer a team that can be  underestimated this time. Although yes the final result is a draw but it has been a very good achievement in my opinion for a club that is experiencing many problems, especially in terms of consistency.

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November 14, 2023, 03:06:35 PM
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I wouldn't say that Chelsea's defense did too badly  against Manchester City. Because from the beginning of this match, we have seen that Chelsea played completely attacking strategy. It is very difficult to play attacking strategy while keeping the  defense strong. Moreover, opponent Manchester City's attack is the best attack in the Premier League. The way Chelsea played against them was good enough. Although Chelsea conceded four goals in this match, they managed to score four goals. I saw the performance of both the teams in the match. The way Manchester City attacked, if Chelsea's defense did not do well, Chelsea would have conceded several more goals in this match.
The attack and defense strategy worked very well, it was proven that Manchester City was overwhelmed in that match. The victory that should have been scheduled long ago to belong to Manchester City was finally dashed by a brilliant performance from Chelsea, even the defense which was known for being strong was destroyed by the Chelsea players. I think this is the best strategy battle between coaches so far and the results are very commensurate with what they showed. However, each team conceded 4 goals and of course it was all because the attack lines of both teams were so dangerous.
I think the strategy made by Pochettno in this match is really suitable for facing a strong squad like Man City which also uses an offensive strategy. At least this strategy has also been successful in beating Tottenham. And then held Man City to a draw. But this strategy is not very suitable when applied against clubs that do not use an offensive strategy. For example, against Brentford. Pochettino's strategy failed when facing opponents who used a 3-5-2 formation. So Pochettino has to make another strategy when facing clubs that often use defensive strategies. And Pochettino's mistake was that he used the same strategy when his opponent used a defensive or attacking strategy. But so far Pochettino seems to have increasingly succeeded in understanding the appropriate way to improve Chelsea's quality to its best performance again. But we have to see further. At least until the middle of the season.
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November 14, 2023, 03:10:57 PM
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It's quite interesting when you look at the current competition for the top four in the English Premier League standings, but with the unstable performance of Man United and Chelsea, the competition feels incomplete. The current points gap is not too big, in the sense that every club in the UCL zone still has a chance to top the standings and it is still very possible for changes to occur every week. Talking about the top teams in the title race this season, the four clubs that currently occupy the top four of the standings really deserve to be on the list.

In general, it will not be easy for Pep Guardiola squad to defend the EPL trophy this season, along with the increasing performance of other teams at the same time. I think in the future it will be very difficult for teams that have gone far in the UCL to achieve stable performance in two competitions at once, so this is a moment for clubs with minimal match schedules to top the standings like Tottenham.
In my opinion, there's only one club I'm pretty sure have secured the UCL competition which is Manchester City, I'm not pretty sure about the rest cause anything is possible and either Manchester United or Chelsea could still finish top four this season,one thing I like about the EPL is that every season is very tougher than the previous and the teams that qualified for the UCL might not be exactly the same four teams that would qualify for the next season's competition, and also I feel the top teams that makes the top four at the end of every season are the ones who deserves it more.

 Based on how tough this season's competition is I think Pep Guardiola might experience on of his toughest season in the EPL cause several mediocre teams are beginning to sit up and perform very better and making it tough for the top teams in the league,well Manchester City managed to perform well in three competitions and won all last season, let's see if they'll be able to replicate that this season.

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November 14, 2023, 03:17:20 PM
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After watching many matches involving various clubs, I can make an informed guess about the champion for the 2023/2024 championship, Manchester City boasts talented players and an awesome coach. Their consistent performance each year reinforces my belief that they will victorious but Liverpool, Chelsea, and Arsenal need to give more effort to compete at the same level.
Manchester city has been excellent this season and that's absolutely in no doubts because it's reflected even in their results. Their performance this session has really been brilliant and in the past two seasons they have had very similar brilliance in their performance and have most times been the favourite for the league title.

Chelsea is just beginning to get back in good form because like it was seen they had a weak start this season and weren't looking promising at all but in recent times they seem to have been showing some gradual improvement but I think it's yet too early to start seeing them as able to compete at such level, tho it's very possible they get back inform and get in on the race to win the league title but not at this time they still have some few more games to play after which we could tell they are now back strong enough, but Liverpool and Arsenal has got great potential here in the premier league.
The Premier League title race is heating up, and it's getting really exciting. The top three teams only who are going for the title, while the others seem to be just adding pressure. It looks like it's going to be a battle among these three clubs for the championship. I don't see the others maintaining consistency. Despite having the worst start to the season, Man United is only 7 points behind City, and as the season progresses, we'll start to see the gaps widen. Chelsea's playing well, and they'll likely get even better. Actually watching the competition in the Premier League is kind of great treat. When we talk about important issues related to the table, I only focus on the top three teams: Man City, Liverpool, and Arsenal.

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November 14, 2023, 03:27:24 PM
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Liverpool made up for last week's point loss with a good win this week, beating Brentford 3-0 at home. Away to Luton Town, this time they showed no mercy to their opponents Brentford. With the opponent's successive wins in the last three weeks, I expected them to score in this match, but Liverpool didn't allow it. Although both teams had plenty of chances, the home team managed to convert them into goals and got the three points with three goals, increasing their score to 27 and reducing the point difference between them and City to one.

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November 14, 2023, 03:31:01 PM
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Mauricio Pochettino keen to become unbeaten only against elite teams in EPL but let give the man his flowers this season, because it's not an easy job to coach a whole new set of Chelsea players that are still struggling to have a good chemistry going on. For a minute, Pep Guardiola and his players was surprised because what they expected is basically out of line and did try to cope but couldn't handle Blues the entire game. Chelsea stand firm and absorb the pressure mounted by Manchester City at Stamford Bridge. It was quite a tense atmosphere and everyone enjoyed every minute of the game.
Chelsea's main weakness was that the players lacked confidence. Also the understanding between the players was not good. However, Chelsea's performance in the last few matches seems to suggest that coach Poch has managed to reduce this problem to a large extent. And so Chelsea's players performed brilliantly against a strong team like Manchester City. Manchester City's attacks were not easy to counter. The match I watched, there was a lot of attacking by the City players. Even then, Chelsea played attacking tactics in this match. And that's why Chelsea were able to draw this match.
Chelsea's recent improvement is surely impressive as now they have 8 points from their last 5 games and their chances for having better end of this season is also improved after these results even still long way to go for them but Mauricio Pochettino is having good work which bring good depth and confidence into Chelsea players for the win and having good results against top teams. Last two games done good work as they are able to have four points and bring down team like Tottenham which was at the top of league table and having 1 point from the leaders Manchester City.

Change of tactics are working for the Chelsea as they are no producing good number of goals even still having problems in defense, but their aggressive approach is surely going to work for them in coming days.

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November 14, 2023, 03:36:07 PM
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After watching many matches involving various clubs, I can make an informed guess about the champion for the 2023/2024 championship, Manchester City boasts talented players and an awesome coach. Their consistent performance each year reinforces my belief that they will victorious but Liverpool, Chelsea, and Arsenal need to give more effort to compete at the same level.

More have been focused on all the big clubs in the Premier League, Man city are the Kings everyone knows that for sure,  Liverpool have won the league in the last three years they are a big side. Chelsea is the most decorated side in Europe from premier league we all know these. But no comments has been made about Aston Villa since the take over of Emery.  They have attacked the Premier League and conference league well they may be confirmed winners of the game when they will play facing Tottenham after the country matches.
Paqueta of Brazil has helped West ham too much it is the reason  he was signed since the match against Arsenal in Fa Cup  they have improved.

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November 14, 2023, 03:52:13 PM
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Liverpool made up for last week's point loss with a good win this week, beating Brentford 3-0 at home. Away to Luton Town, this time they showed no mercy to their opponents Brentford. With the opponent's successive wins in the last three weeks, I expected them to score in this match, but Liverpool didn't allow it. Although both teams had plenty of chances, the home team managed to convert them into goals and got the three points with three goals, increasing their score to 27 and reducing the point difference between them and City to one.
English Premier League will become more tougher for Manchester City because Liverpool have enter the race for the EPL title and they won't hold back. Winning average teams have become more regular routine for the Reds, they have eyes on major trophies this season, they're not going to hold back but strive for significant improvement in performance. Liverpool have other priorities to accomplish this season, it's all matter of time before things will finally set in place for the club. Jurgen Klopp have plans for an upgrade this season, he's entirely working on some solid project at Anfield and there are more objectives to hits this season.

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November 14, 2023, 03:56:22 PM
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Although only their last two games have looked promising but honestly I will not fully believe that Chelsea will really change for the better, but on the other hand yes maybe the success in the last two games is enough to indicate that there are signs of change from Pochettino's squad, although I will first fully believe but at least this is a good sign. Last season was indeed as we saw that they really slumped by only being able to finish 12th in the standings, but let's just say that it was their time of change that we some good signs have begun to be quite visible.

Yes that's right, that indeed now what most Blues fans hope is that they expect Chelsea to be able to maintain their performance like this, they hope that there is consistency created for the next few games, although it might be quite hard to expect to win the title or even enter the top five of the standings because the season time is not long anymore, for this season yes maybe I won't have too much hope for them, but for next season I don't think there is any reason for them to slump again, after all it's time for them to restore the prestige of the club in the Premier League.
I agree with you that this season is really difficult for Chelsea to finish in the top four of the standings, so they can qualify for the Champions League next season. The most reasonable target for Pochettino squad is to finish in the Europa League zone, because we know these two matches are promising but we cannot fully believe that this is a turning point in their performance.

On the other hand, I am quite sure that this season The Blues can finish in a more decent ranking than last season, I can't imagine their spending in the transfer market being so large if they fail to improve their performance so that they can finish in a better ranking.

However, Pochettino efforts should be appreciated, perhaps his tactical qualities are now better than Ten Hag. Although we will never know in the future the Blues might slump again when faced with a mediocre club.
I honestly do not think that Pochettino has anything to do with this, players were just sick and tired of being labeled a failure and they played a lot better, they played with their heart out, they played like it was the UCL finals or EPL championship decider, they played with 100% and not an ounce lower. When you play like that, it is obvious that you are not going to get anything bad, you are going to get some decent results.

Chelsea will not continue to get these results forever, they did it, and they played well, but players won't play with 100% for every game, this was a City game and they did their best, and they did manage to score 4 goals against City, which not many teams could say in the last 5 years or so.

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November 14, 2023, 04:01:39 PM
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Liverpool made up for last week's point loss with a good win this week, beating Brentford 3-0 at home. Away to Luton Town, this time they showed no mercy to their opponents Brentford. With the opponent's successive wins in the last three weeks, I expected them to score in this match, but Liverpool didn't allow it. Although both teams had plenty of chances, the home team managed to convert them into goals and got the three points with three goals, increasing their score to 27 and reducing the point difference between them and City to one.
They are back on track now and they are now 2nd on 27 points, the same points as Arsenal, but they are ahead on goal productivity.
Now the competition in the Premier League is heating up again, after there were some changes in the standings, including one of them Tottenham who had to be displaced to 4th place after their 2 defeats.
There is what I am waiting for, which is the rise of Chelsea and Manchester United. If they rise then it will make the competition even more interesting.

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November 14, 2023, 04:17:09 PM
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There is what I am waiting for, which is the rise of Chelsea and Manchester United. If they rise then it will make the competition even more interesting.
Between Chelsea and Manchester United, Manchester United will have more problems because they were already having problems, but now will have more to deal with Erikson their midfielder who was very good in some games is injured and will not return soon due to a knee problem, their new striker also has problems with injuries to deal with, he is suffering from a muscle strain and will miss a few games. Manchester United struggle to win games recently scoring just one goal, maybe with the opportunity that Martial will have, he will be able to score more goals.

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November 14, 2023, 04:24:49 PM
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After watching many matches involving various clubs, I can make an informed guess about the champion for the 2023/2024 championship, Manchester City boasts talented players and an awesome coach. Their consistent performance each year reinforces my belief that they will victorious but Liverpool, Chelsea, and Arsenal need to give more effort to compete at the same level.
Since when Pep Guardiola arrived at Manchester City they have been increase in their performance in each season, they are always incredible in each season, all the three club you mentioned are really in their good form, Arsenal has also improve since last season upto now both in Premier league and in campion league which they are the one on top of the tables while Liverpool are not in champion league but in Europe and their they are performance incredible and Chelsea didn't start the season in a good form but they have started to bounce back.

As long Pep Guardiola is still the head coach of Manchester City, then I sure that Manchester City will have a good guarantee of getting a trophy in every season in the existing competition. Therefore, it is not surprising that so far Manchester City has always managed to maintain its good trend in every season. Even though sometimes Manchester City also fails to win in certain matches, but in fact Manchester City always manages to recover quickly. So ya, of course, with great management like that, I personally no doubts about Manchester City's quality at this moment to being able to finish the season well.

Pep's contract will be running out next year. The primary issue arises if he decides not to extend his contract. Numerous players are still staying at the manchester city caused by pep. I can imagine if pep will not be there again and there will be many players to leave from there.
Pep is the main reason people are staying in the club. It is caused by people knew him as one of best coach in the world. Manchester city needs also to prevent the worst thing that may happen in the club.
I think that haaland and any other important players will not stay in manchester city if there will be no him in city.

City's performance is very consistent but we must also admit that chelsea was so strong in the previous match. City has been using all of its power but chelsea is playing with all of its spirit. No doubt if city was getting draw against chelsea.
The result is not that bad but losing two points are still bad for manchester city. Chelsea is very strong right now

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November 14, 2023, 04:30:38 PM
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The Premier League title race is heating up, and it's getting really exciting. The top three teams only who are going for the title, while the others seem to be just adding pressure. It looks like it's going to be a battle among these three clubs for the championship. I don't see the others maintaining consistency.
Truly is getting tougher because it has come to the stage were every team needs to put in there possible best to secure there position on the premier League table, but it was quite unfortunate that Tottenham Hotspur that perform so very good during the early stage of the premier league by becoming the number team on the premier league but has now become the fourth team on the premier league table, although I have  known that there might be a chance for Tottenham Hotspur moving down from the first position but I never believe they will drop this low.

So for now this year premier league champions is within the first three clubs on the premier league table but however judging based on performance Manchester City will surely become the premier league champion once again because I don't see much threat on them from Arsenal and Liverpool.

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November 14, 2023, 04:31:13 PM
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There is what I am waiting for, which is the rise of Chelsea and Manchester United. If they rise then it will make the competition even more interesting.
Between Chelsea and Manchester United, Manchester United will have more problems because they were already having problems, but now will have more to deal with Erikson their midfielder who was very good in some games is injured and will not return soon due to a knee problem, their new striker also has problems with injuries to deal with, he is suffering from a muscle strain and will miss a few games. Manchester United struggle to win games recently scoring just one goal, maybe with the opportunity that Martial will have, he will be able to score more goals.

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Manchester United need to improve, their next three opponents in the premier league are Everton, Newcastle United and Chelsea.

I guess any player that gets injured these days is bad news for Manchester United as they have so many problems with many of their players already. This season won't end well for them. Last season I couldn't believe that they made it into the top four, but that was more of a lucky ending for them because so many teams failed to play in normal shape. This time it is different. I would even doubt that they finish this season in front of Newcastle and Brighton.

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November 14, 2023, 04:37:28 PM
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Liverpool made up for last week's point loss with a good win this week, beating Brentford 3-0 at home. Away to Luton Town, this time they showed no mercy to their opponents Brentford. With the opponent's successive wins in the last three weeks, I expected them to score in this match, but Liverpool didn't allow it. Although both teams had plenty of chances, the home team managed to convert them into goals and got the three points with three goals, increasing their score to 27 and reducing the point difference between them and City to one.
English Premier League will become more tougher for Manchester City because Liverpool have enter the race for the EPL title and they won't hold back. Winning average teams have become more regular routine for the Reds, they have eyes on major trophies this season, they're not going to hold back but strive for significant improvement in performance. Liverpool have other priorities to accomplish this season, it's all matter of time before things will finally set in place for the club. Jurgen Klopp have plans for an upgrade this season, he's entirely working on some solid project at Anfield and there are more objectives to hits this season.

Liverpool were previously held to a draw by Luton and then, in the Europa League Liverpool lost by Toulouse and yes, in their last match Liverpool managed to boost their morale because Liverpool won 3-0 against Brentford. I don't know, whether that win in the previous match will make Liverpool able to maintain their good performance for next match because after all, the fact is that in the next match in the Premier League Liverpool have to play away against Manchester City. Of course, Manchester City and also Liverpool still really need points this moment, because the teams that are below them in the current standings, at least ready to overtake their positions in positions 1 and 2. Therefore, in the next match the match between Manchester City v Liverpool is realy a big match, because it is very risky for their current position in the top standings in the Premier League.

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November 14, 2023, 04:43:54 PM
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After watching many matches involving various clubs, I can make an informed guess about the champion for the 2023/2024 championship, Manchester City boasts talented players and an awesome coach. Their consistent performance each year reinforces my belief that they will victorious but Liverpool, Chelsea, and Arsenal need to give more effort to compete at the same level.
Since when Pep Guardiola arrived at Manchester City they have been increase in their performance in each season, they are always incredible in each season, all the three club you mentioned are really in their good form, Arsenal has also improve since last season upto now both in Premier league and in campion league which they are the one on top of the tables while Liverpool are not in champion league but in Europe and their they are performance incredible and Chelsea didn't start the season in a good form but they have started to bounce back.

Pep has been slowly building manchester city since he was coming to this club. I remember the era of mancini and then pep is coming as his successor. The hype is big and pep has proven his quality after he was able helping manchester city to get UCL.
This is why many people are calling pep as good as some coaches like mourinho or even ancellotti. Chelsea is struggling caused by it was using fully young squad and this is a common thing when you see a young squad was struggling caused by they have no enough exp.
chelsea needs time to rebuild the club again for the long term project. Chelsea acquired many of young players and this club is planning for long term.

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November 14, 2023, 04:46:59 PM
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I don't see international break affecting performance for the now, this is the second international break since they started building momentum but I still hope they continued more like this and become a better team, the defence is getting bad for me and I don't have High hopes on Sanchez. Let's see how it goes after international break Nkunku and Latvia might be fit so that would benefit us well especially in the attack
I'd argue that belief because after the first international break Chelsea went for and came back to play against Arsenal and drew the game when they had a two goal up lead. After that they lost to Brentford by two goals and you feel they will not be affected by this break?
 Beating Tottenham and Man City is not an easy fear but I feel they may lose that morale when they meet Newcastle don't you think?
International breaks are having impact on different teams with it's negative or positive nothing clear because few teams feel better after these breaks but last time Chelsea were having not good which is surely a concern for them with now after break they are going to visit St James Park where Newcastle United are also waiting for giving their best after few issues which hurt them badly and now their moral is also down which is hurting their hard work and also can bring setback for them in Champions League as well.

Now if they have issues after this break then surely they need to work on this because no one can stop this all with the also need to manage things into better way without these breaks we can't go through into game as few big events are also going to play in coming days.

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November 14, 2023, 04:51:07 PM
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The Premier League title race is heating up, and it's getting really exciting. The top three teams only who are going for the title, while the others seem to be just adding pressure. It looks like it's going to be a battle among these three clubs for the championship. I don't see the others maintaining consistency.
Truly is getting tougher because it has come to the stage were every team needs to put in there possible best to secure there position on the premier League table, but it was quite unfortunate that Tottenham Hotspur that perform so very good during the early stage of the premier league by becoming the number team on the premier league but has now become the fourth team on the premier league table, although I have  known that there might be a chance for Tottenham Hotspur moving down from the first position but I never believe they will drop this low.

So for now this year premier league champions is within the first three clubs on the premier league table but however judging based on performance Manchester City will surely become the premier league champion once again because I don't see much threat on them from Arsenal and Liverpool.
Losing a single match in the Premier League when you are leading the table can drop a team to the fourth because if you look at the top three in the Premier League table right now, you will see that the point difference between the first position and the second and third is just one point, while the points difference between the third and the fifth is just two points; this is indirectly telling you that If Manchester City lose one match, they can drop to the fifth place.

Tottenham have a very good start, they still have chance to compete for the title because they have good players, and their performance against big teams is not that bad, just that red card and injuries affected them.

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