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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 40 (51.9%)
Liverpool - 11 (14.3%)
Arsenal - 21 (27.3%)
Chelsea - 0 (0%)
Manchester United - 4 (5.2%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (1.3%)
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December 24, 2023, 08:41:05 PM

Chelsea problem is in 2 phases.

1. The players are not good enough and the squad is not good enough.
2. The coach is not getting the best performance out of the players

The coach needs to find a tactics that bring out the best in the players; the coach needs to ensure that only players that deserves line up gets called up. The coach needs to drop preferential treatment and use only the best of the best.

Until this happens; results won't come for coach Pochetino or chelsea

I'd say;

• Mauricio Pochetino is not the right coach for Chelsea. I Believe Chelsea have a good and great squad, bit he is not the man for these players. A Coach like De Zebri Roberto the Italian would make the best out of these lads. Mauricio Pochetino is not a top notch manager and he's another failed manager Chelsea be testing following ( Frank Lampard, Graham Potter and now him to win what? ) Laughable.

• I completely come to agreement with your second point. I don't even know how he reads the game today, why allow Ugochukwu for that long in the game? And why have the fastest players in Chelsea on the bench? What's Mudryk and Nkuku doing down there? I be wondering if Chelsea has a Champions league fixture to play ahead lol! Man be going nuts..

Chelsea as a club lacks that patience to give another manager after the disappointing results from Graham Potter. Mauricio Pochetino should buckle up!!!

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December 24, 2023, 08:46:45 PM

I have hope that Man United will do better after being able to get 1 point from Liverpool. But apparently no, I was wrong. Even their game was bad, controlling the match but couldn't score a goal. It seems that Man United has not found a strong striker. Hojlund has high hopes but he is yet to score a goal in the EPL. I think today they are in a bad mental period. They must be able to develop mentally, be confident in better match results.
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December 24, 2023, 08:56:03 PM

Looks like Erik Ten Hag may lose his job in 2024. Looking at history of Manchester United, it’s understandable that the fans cannot stand the current mediocrity at the club. Judging by the performance of United this season, ETH deserves the sack so far but perhaps  Manchester United should be more patient just the way Arsenal gave to Mikel Arterta. Klopp first 3 years at Liverpool weren’t that great either. But they have progressed to do big things at their respective clubs
As the season progresses, it is looking like the problems of Manchester United is beyond single person, be it the coach or the player. I understand that it is convenient to blame the coach for the misfortune of the club but let's face the fact, a lot is wrong with the team. For instance, before now, their goalkeeper Andre Onana was the best the team could get but as of today it is looking like he is a very good goalkeeper when the ball is not place on the ground. I So, sacking the coach, Erik Ten Hag without sacking Onana is doing the job halfway. The entire defense line also need serious overhauling to reduce the pressure on the goalkeeper.



Erik ten Hag's mistake was choosing the wrong players in the last transfer window, so it is no wonder that he has failed to improve the team's performance with his selected players this season. So yes, Erik ten Hag is certainly the first person to be blamed for the poor performance and bad results so far this season. Although perhaps, Manchester United still give Erik ten Hag a chance but still, if his demands to enter the top four, clearly become an impossible achievement.

Because anyway, when Manchester United are still in sixth or seventh position, the reality is that fans remain dissatisfied. Therefore, it seems that the demands placed on Erik ten Hag are clearly a difficult task if they have to restore Manchester United back into at least the top five.
@hahay I will agree with you on what you have said, choosing players is one of the problems Manchester united are facing this season,  Ten Hag made wrong signings. Manchester United poor performance stated at the beginning of the season,  this is to tell that the players the coach selected for the team are not not doing well in performance to help the team do well. I don't think the problem of Manchester United is directly from ten hag, Eric Ten Hag is a good coach and he proved his capacity of being a good coach from day one when he arrived Manchester united, which he also did well to qualify Manchester United to qualify for champions league.

I don't think it will be of good ideas for Eric Ten Hag to be sacked as Manchester united to be coach, Manchester United just need good players,  sacking Eric might not even solve the problem of Manchester United.

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December 24, 2023, 08:57:18 PM

I think any football fan would want that, it can be compared to Leicester's fairytale in the 15-16 season, it was phenomenal. Aston Vila went out of the league that season finishing in last place by the way. If they pull off a miracle like that I'll be delighted for them.
Even though such a fairy tale is very beautiful if it is repeated again but in the end it is still very difficult to happen because after all for things like what happened to Leicester a few seasons ago, apart from the cohesiveness and consistency that is intertwined things like this must also be accompanied by luck for a club and I still feel that Aston Villla will still be very difficult to do that.
Not without real reason in this case because after all, of course we know that with the current situation for several big clubs, such a dream for Aston Villa will be very difficult to happen.
Currently Manchester City despite having problems in the last few matches but still they will still be very troublesome and become the first strong candidate to become champions. In addition, now there are Liverpool and Arsenal who will again enliven the competition after last season it can be said that Liverpool failed for that but now it is a differentiator so it will be very difficult to feel the beautiful fairy tale of Leicester repeating itself.

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December 24, 2023, 08:58:21 PM

It's a big blow for the Blues to get up and improve their fortunes this season, if I'm not mistaken, R James has been sidelined twice this season due to injury. An endless misery befalling Pochettino squad, the latest defeat to Wolves adds to the complexity of the situation they are experiencing. As one of the players and also the team captain, James absence means a big problem that Pochettino must find a solution for.

Injury problems have been one of the factors in Chelsea decline this season, many players have been in the treatment room one after another. As many as seven players are currently sidelined, it is very difficult for Pochettino to achieve the target and finish in a more appropriate place. The composition of players who lack experience adds to the coach's headaches, the back line is not their only problem this season.

I feel this Poch’s Chelsea is facing so may difficulties especially upfront and to crown it all the injury problem. Yes Reece James has been on the sideline twice due to injury but that’s not a key player, I feel the loss of Caicedo to injury was one reason why they lost this match. Though injury isn’t an excuse in football because he has replacements just that his replacements aren’t fully fit.

 Now let’s check the players ratings, you see that yes they give their all but when they get in to score a goal they seem pretty weak and fragile up front; this is one major challenge, Pochettino needs to take care of it very fast else this Chelsea will just be a shadow of last season and that’s one thing the fans will kick against especially with the large amount spent in the transfer window, and I'm pretty sure they'll still spend alot more.
Chelsea loss today shouldn't be blame on Caicedo injury, Chelsea as a club hasn't been playing well even with Caicedo on the pitch. Sometimes I begin to wonder if the glory days of Chelsea ended Abramovic. Chelsea and Manchester United are always in the news for the bad reason.
That club as a whole needs restructuring and samw think applies for Manchester united, the two team are in one big hell of a problem and I doubt that they can manage to squeeze their way out of it if the management doesn't do something. The case of Chelsea for me is more severe because for some reason they have spent all  the money on acquiring players but still yet no results have been gotten from the huge money on players.











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It seems that for this season Manchester United want to rival Chelsea last season to become clowns lol.

They still play like this and continue to not be able to make conditions better for Manchester United even though this can still be maximised but in the end they have to lose with a score that is quite disappointing for themselves.
Their possession was good but they were so fixated on it that West Ham's counter-attacks seemed to be left unattended which made the conditions not too good for them in today's match.
This is obviously very disappointing and there should have been an intervention for Ten Hag from the officials because if it continues to be allowed then indeed this will only make them even more chaotic and Ten Hag will continue to do as he pleases this season because there is no intervention or pressure to improve Manchester United's performance from the current officials.
Lol Manchester United this season can’t be compared to Chelsea of the previous season because they’re currently in a better position than Chelsea who were battling 12-15 position as at this period last season. The loss was expected because West Ham are a pretty good side that could hurt you with a counter. And that’s what the just delivered on at the London Stadium.

 Now the effect of this loss is a ripple effect from what the fans have been on, these players aren’t too serious and are not ready to play for the badge. Yes they kept the possession but there are still some bluntness in the attack and you can see when ever they head to get a goal, the spirit dies.Yes, Ten Haag has got a lot to do this December and January else I don’t think he’ll be able to survive getting fired by the end of the season if the takeover isn’t completed.
The last 5 matches 3 defeats, 1 draw and 1 victory they managed to achieve and don't forget they are also at the bottom of the table for the Champions League is this still not bad enough? Although in terms of performance they are now still better when compared to 1 season but can we guarantee that they will reverse the situation and restore the lost performance with the chaotic club situation like now? because if Manchester United cannot make their performance in a better direction then they with Chelsea last season will still be a reality.
In the end, Manchester United playing very badly in recent weeks cannot be denied because whatever the reason it is unacceptable because it is the truth and Manchester United still have a lot to improve if indeed criticism like mine does not happen again.
Not that I don't like Manchester United but indeed for now they deserve to be criticised if you look at the performance they have now.

 
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@hahay I will agree with you on what you have said, choosing players is one of the problems Manchester united are facing this season,  Ten Hag made wrong signings. Manchester United poor performance stated at the beginning of the season,  this is to tell that the players the coach selected for the team are not not doing well in performance to help the team do well. I don't think the problem of Manchester United is directly from ten hag, Eric Ten Hag is a good coach and he proved his capacity of being a good coach from day one when he arrived Manchester united, which he also did well to qualify Manchester United to qualify for champions league.

I don't think it will be of good ideas for Eric Ten Hag to be sacked as Manchester united to be coach, Manchester United just need good players,  sacking Eric might not even solve the problem of Manchester United.
Manchester United gave too much freedom to Ten Hag in his recruitment so that some of the players recruited now can be said to have failed because until half the season is almost over there is still no contribution made to their new players.
Onana still makes a lot of mistakes which in the end not a few mistakes made by Onana end up fatal and even harm his own club. Mount, who was brought in from Cheslea, also still cannot make a real contribution and sometimes he still loses the competition that occurs in the Manchester United midfield and is only on the bench and finally Hojlund, although given more opportunities, his performance is still not visible because the productivity of the goals he creates is still minimal and even 14 matches he went through in the EPL there was still no 1 goal he created even though in the Champions League he played very well.
This should be a more honest concern because if things like this continue to be allowed Manchester United could be even worse.

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December 24, 2023, 09:18:03 PM

Chelsea problem is in 2 phases.

1. The players are not good enough and the squad is not good enough.
2. The coach is not getting the best performance out of the players

The coach needs to find a tactics that bring out the best in the players; the coach needs to ensure that only players that deserves line up gets called up. The coach needs to drop preferential treatment and use only the best of the best.

Until this happens; results won't come for coach Pochetino or chelsea

I'd say;

• Mauricio Pochetino is not the right coach for Chelsea. I Believe Chelsea have a good and great squad, bit he is not the man for these players. A Coach like De Zebri Roberto the Italian would make the best out of these lads. Mauricio Pochetino is not a top notch manager and he's another failed manager Chelsea be testing following ( Frank Lampard, Graham Potter and now him to win what? ) Laughable.

• I completely come to agreement with your second point. I don't even know how he reads the game today, why allow Ugochukwu for that long in the game? And why have the fastest players in Chelsea on the bench? What's Mudryk and Nkuku doing down there? I be wondering if Chelsea has a Champions league fixture to play ahead lol! Man be going nuts..

Chelsea as a club lacks that patience to give another manager after the disappointing results from Graham Potter. Mauricio Pochetino should buckle up!!!

I don't think if you are right about Pochetino in Chelsea because I think Pochetino tried to do his best for this team but they failed and Pochetino is not guilty of it. Also, they sold many expensive players and Pochetino helped Chelsea to completely rebuild the team for a better result in this season.


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December 24, 2023, 09:32:48 PM


 Now let’s check the players ratings

Chelsea problem is in 2 phases.

1. The players are not good enough and the squad is not good enough.
2. The coach is not getting the best performance out of the players

The coach needs to find a tactics that bring out the best in the players; the coach needs to ensure that only players that deserves line up gets called up. The coach needs to drop preferential treatment and use only the best of the best.

Until this happens; results won't come for coach Pochetino or chelsea

I think proposition 1 is correct. Chelsea don't have a good squad. They spent millions of dollars on transfers but they don't have Haaland or Bellingham. Also before Pochettino, Lampard, Potter, Tuchel, Conte and Sarri were in charge of this team but they didn't get good results either. I think they are getting bad results because the squad is not good. If we talk based on this squad and evaluate the situation, the coaches should be secondary.

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I think any football fan would want that, it can be compared to Leicester's fairytale in the 15-16 season, it was phenomenal. Aston Vila went out of the league that season finishing in last place by the way. If they pull off a miracle like that I'll be delighted for them.

I think the Leicester City fairytale was more intense than if Aston Villa were to win the Premier League title, wasn't it? It is so lang ago that I don't exactly know anymore, but whatever happens, winning the Premier League title against Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal and some others would be a dream come true for them.

Perhaps, yes, brighter. But given the difficulty of the current season I think it would be no less a beautiful victory story, because it's a lot of work and very hard to face such giant clubs. They are only 1 point behind first place, things can change at any moment

Yes, yes I agree here. Talking about difficulty isn't really that easy as I am sure it was difficult as well back at the time when Leicester City won the title. But it is true in so far as Arsenal came 2nd in that season with 71 points and Leicester finished it with 81 points. I think you could put these two seasons, the one when Leicester won, and this one in so far into perspective as I doubt that this season's 2nd position will finish with 71 points. It is probably going to be more towards 80 points and in general there are more teams fiercely involved in the fight for the Premier League title. Nevertheless, Leicester City took it down back then because they never fell when everybody was hoping and waiting for them to fall. They kept going against all expectations.

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Chelsea lost again, now people even stopped making fun of them. They are so pathetic. How can a team spend so much money, build such a large squad and fail so much? I don't understand why Pochettino can't find a solution. If you can't beat Wolverhampton, which team will you beat? Mudryk and Nkunku were the positive ones for today, but they didn't bring even 1 point. The players have no soul, the team seems to have lost its integrity. They cannot recover easily anymore.

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December 24, 2023, 09:43:13 PM

Arsenal are most likely to end this year at the first position. Because they are going to play a home game against West Ham next time. I don't think they would lose points in this game. I expected them to lose against Liverpool at Anfield but they still got one point at least. I think this will be a more comfortable one for Arsenal to win.

West Ham newly beat Manchester United though but there is a big difference between Arsenal and the Red Devils these days. Arsenal would probably show the difference clearly in this game.  Grin  In the same way I expect Liverpool to beat Burnley as well.

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Chelsea lost again, now people even stopped making fun of them. They are so pathetic. How can a team spend so much money, build such a large squad and fail so much? I don't understand why Pochettino can't find a solution. If you can't beat Wolverhampton, which team will you beat? Mudryk and Nkunku were the positive ones for today, but they didn't bring even 1 point. The players have no soul, the team seems to have lost its integrity. They cannot recover easily anymore.

This same Wolverampton won against Pep Guardiola and his almighty Manchester City, shared points with Aston Villa and Newcastle who was in a good position to win the game that day. So, Wolverampton is not one easy club to beat at home. I think they also won against Tottenham Hotspur.

Not just Mudryk and Nkuku. Cole Palmer and the defenders alongside the goalkeeper who did a good job back their to help the blues this afternoon. Madueke also when introduced did a good attacking job today. Raheem sterling should have scored that goal to put them ahead but he failed since he's a selfish prick.

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Signing the wrong players is one of the first mistakes Ten Hag made this season, and some of his players are on injury, which is really affecting them. I just hope Ten Hag will be able to make corrections in the next transfer window. Manchester United is just getting worse, their fans are already losing confidence in them. West Ham didn't play anything special against Manchester United, but they ended up scoring two goals in the match.
I don't really think Ten Hag signed the wrong players, because all the players signed by Ten Hag were doing great before they came to Manchester United. But what is there? Maybe Ten Hag is not capable of managing this players. If not for the set of players that Manchester United have, they can form a good squad that can win the Premier League. Let's just compare the set of players that Manchester United is keeping with those of Aston Villa and Tottenham, which are doing better than Manchester United. You will see that Manchester United are keeping more world-class players than this team. So I just believe that when teams have a better coach, they will surely do well even with average players.

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If a club is performing poorly, then the first person to blame is the coach, before any other player will be blamed. Currently, ten Hag is being blamed for the current Manchester United poor performance because he keeps on using the wrong players and making the wrong substitutions in most of his matches. Manchester United fans are pushing for ten hag sack. If Manchester United keeps on performing poorly, I won't be surprised if ten hag is sacked before the end of the season.
Absolutely, coaches should bear the brunt of the blame for any team's poor performance. While players may also share some of the blame, coaches should bear the brunt of the criticism since they have complete authority over every choice made by the team.Therefore, the best course of action for Manchester United at this point would be to fire Ten Hag and try a different, competent coach if there is no improvement in the team's performance.

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Perhaps, yes, brighter. But given the difficulty of the current season I think it would be no less a beautiful victory story, because it's a lot of work and very hard to face such giant clubs. They are only 1 point behind first place, things can change at any moment

They will actually be doing something memorable but the miraculous title win was that of Leicester city because of the odd given to them, they struggle to survive the season before that winning season and so everyone doubted their ambition. As for Aston Villa since last season they have shown that character to challenge those big clubs and that could be seen as then went on to qualify for European competitions last season at expense of Tottenham and Chelsea. Unai Emery will be the most joyous person if it goes like that because it will be like stealing the title from the hands of its former employees Arsenal.


Absolutely, coaches should bear the brunt of the blame for any team's poor performance. While players may also share some of the blame, coaches should bear the brunt of the criticism since they have complete authority over every choice made by the team.Therefore, the best course of action for Manchester United at this point would be to fire Ten Hag and try a different, competent coach if there is no improvement in the team's performance.

I don’t buy the idea that coaches to bear the brunt, yes coaches set out tactical plans but are the coaches also responsible for the clear chances that his players miss? If you say Manchester United should sack the coach and then bring another new one I would say it is a wrong decision this time around. This bunch of players have long been in the club and have been coached with different top managers and yet they couldn’t deliver, funny part most of these coaches are doing well in their new adventures which shows they weren’t the problem at Manchester United.

What I think Manchester United need is squad overhaul: send out old players and bring in new players that suit the coach pattern after this if he doesn’t delivers you can go ahead and sack him











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Arsenal are most likely to end this year at the first position. Because they are going to play a home game against West Ham next time. I don't think they would lose points in this game. I expected them to lose against Liverpool at Anfield but they still got one point at least. I think this will be a more comfortable one for Arsenal to win.

West Ham newly beat Manchester United though but there is a big difference between Arsenal and the Red Devils these days. Arsenal would probably show the difference clearly in this game.  Grin  In the same way I expect Liverpool to beat Burnley as well.
Yes, one more match before closing the end of the year and I think Arsenal will use this match as the best gift to end 2023. Arsenal will face West Ham which means this match will be full of fierce competition between the two teams. West Ham is not a weak team, they were able to beat Manchester United with a score of 2-0 and also beat Arsenal in the league cup with a score of 3-1. But in this meeting Arsenal will play at home which means it will be difficult for West Ham to repeat what they did in the league cup.

In the Premier League Arsenal have been so consistent and also in the previous match they have shown their best strength when facing Liverpool. So in the match against West Ham, if Arsenal want to maintain their ranking as leaders of the standings, they have to win this match. I think Arteta can give a beautiful closing gift to the fans by giving them a win in their last match of the year.

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Yes, yes I agree here. Talking about difficulty isn't really that easy as I am sure it was difficult as well back at the time when Leicester City won the title. But it is true in so far as Arsenal came 2nd in that season with 71 points and Leicester finished it with 81 points. I think you could put these two seasons, the one when Leicester won, and this one in so far into perspective as I doubt that this season's 2nd position will finish with 71 points. It is probably going to be more towards 80 points and in general there are more teams fiercely involved in the fight for the Premier League title. Nevertheless, Leicester City took it down back then because they never fell when everybody was hoping and waiting for them to fall. They kept going against all expectations.
Leicester City won the title with 81 points was indeed remarkable and somewhat unexpected. The fact that Arsenal, who finished second, had 71 points in that season illustrates the unique circumstances and challenges Leicester overcame. It's indeed hard to compare that season to the current season, because all top clubs that season had a poor season, or even all the clubs. That's why 81 points was enough to win the league.

The current season is so competitive when many clubs are performing very well that even Spurs is now being one of the best performers. The expected points tally for the second-positioned team is likely to be higher that indicates increased competitiveness in the league. More teams are actively contending for the title, making it a more fiercely contested battle. The difficulty of winning the Premier League is subjective. The current season's title race may be different in terms of competition, but the lesson from Leicester's triumph is that perseverance and consistency are vital elements in any team's journey to the top.

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Arsenal are most likely to end this year at the first position. Because they are going to play a home game against West Ham next time. I don't think they would lose points in this game. I expected them to lose against Liverpool at Anfield but they still got one point at least. I think this will be a more comfortable one for Arsenal to win.

West Ham newly beat Manchester United though but there is a big difference between Arsenal and the Red Devils these days. Arsenal would probably show the difference clearly in this game.  Grin  In the same way I expect Liverpool to beat Burnley as well.

I'm not going to proclaim Arsenal as league champions just yet, despite their one-point shared with Liverpool in their last match. Liverpool is also in a better position to win the league, and with how these two teams are currently performing and playing, we will see a very tight and fierce race between the two of them. Arsenal's next game against West Ham will be crucial because West Ham is not a team that can be underestimated, but I am still confident that Arsenal will win. Similarly, I believe Liverpool will easily defeat Burnley.

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Chelsea lost again, now people even stopped making fun of them. They are so pathetic. How can a team spend so much money, build such a large squad and fail so much? I don't understand why Pochettino can't find a solution. If you can't beat Wolverhampton, which team will you beat? Mudryk and Nkunku were the positive ones for today, but they didn't bring even 1 point. The players have no soul, the team seems to have lost its integrity. They cannot recover easily anymore.

This same Wolverampton won against Pep Guardiola and his almighty Manchester City, shared points with Aston Villa and Newcastle who was in a good position to win the game that day. So, Wolverampton is not one easy club to beat at home. I think they also won against Tottenham Hotspur.

Not just Mudryk and Nkuku. Cole Palmer and the defenders alongside the goalkeeper who did a good job back their to help the blues this afternoon. Madueke also when introduced did a good attacking job today. Raheem sterling should have scored that goal to put them ahead but he failed since he's a selfish prick.
Having wasted many good opportunities, Chelsea suffered a bitter 1-2 defeat to Wolves on Christmas Day. Chelsea created many opportunities against Wolves, but their ability to utilize them could have been better. Raheem Sterling missed an unbelievable opportunity in the 32nd minute. Chelsea's bright spot came in injury time when Sterling crossed from the right side for Nkunku to cut in and head the ball at an angle beyond the reach of Jose Sa. Nkunku is a quality player. He can score goals and create assists. I was very pleased with what he could do, although I was disappointed not to win the match.
The 1-2 loss meant Chelsea could not improve to 10th place and was even equaled by Wolves themselves by 22 points. Chelsea's busy schedule is probably the reason for their lack of performance. Pochettino and his team will prepare to return to Stamford Bridge to face Crystal Palace.

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December 24, 2023, 10:33:14 PM

Today's match between Wolverhampton ended equally to Chelsea in the number of points, Wolverhampton hold the 11th place and has not lost in its last 7 home matches in the English Premier League.

They deserved three points with the most wonderful defensive organization. They gave a wonderful and excellent performance that made them jump from 14th to 11th place.

What happened in the first half is a clear indication that Chelsea has problems with scoring and finishing the attack, I believe that Pochettino is responsible for losing this match because he always chose the wrong starting lineup. I think relying on a mobile spearhead like Christopher Nkunku is the best, because Jackson and Borja are not at the level to play as starters for Chelsea. Therefore, they have to look for a good spearhead scorer in the next Mercato otherwise we won't see anything good from them this season.


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