[UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Merge Mine w/BTC! - Update NOW to qt 0.11.5

[Krypto Superdog]

Even if you make a .conf?

addnode and it will find the network

Or am I missing something?

*Krypto Superdog beat me to the punch but yeah we are suggesting the same.

**Does the 'yellow' version MAC wallet have the same issue?

currently pnoch's is the ONLY mac version.  I had to download the .conf file and put it in the folder.

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[siameze]

Even if you make a .conf?

addnode and it will find the network

Or am I missing something?

*Krypto Superdog beat me to the punch but yeah we are suggesting the same.

**Does the 'yellow' version MAC wallet have the same issue?

currently pnoch's is the ONLY mac version.  I had to download the .conf file and put it in the folder.

This is standard for clients on any platform. QT will create the data directory, but not the .conf file that belongs there.

[sloopy]

@ Proto: I am busting my hump to understand and do what is right for the Uno community. (I like my idea of a training-coin, which is what I want to get some for at present. Put up two Proto give-away ads in two towns already.)

B.N.'s Post 9 here -- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1140354.0 -- which says that monetary value is a distant-second consideration, is what I'm working off at this second.

If consensus says, 'No value!,' I will give away all the Proto I hold. (Got hundreds to give away if anyone wants any.)

@ Sloopy! Good to see you. Taa for the update: yay, Bigtimespaghetti! Yay, Coaex Metals!

@ Project Point Oh One: wa ha ha, go, me! am throwing pennies at this one. Watch this space.

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I am always reading here. Catching up on the latest news every day.
Taking advantage of low prices!
Me thinks someone is dropping the price to buy in on the low side, but I have my triggers set no matter what.

I am not into the Proto scene, but I think it gives some people what they want to play with. Good for them. There is plenty of everything here. Especially room for more.

I do hope the mac wallet issue is corrected. IF we need to pitch in to help get it done, count me in.

[IanRidgwell]

1 year goes by so fast.

Crypto stuff always happens in gluts of activity.

[siameze]

Special thanks to IMZ for his generous Prototanium contribution: 14eb4bb49ff70b8afda2d047f940e139689a9223d00dd35ee6a8ece8a677ac2b

[BitcoinCharlie]

1 year goes by so fast.

Crypto stuff always happens in gluts of activity.

Congratulations on the year! Great to have all of you as part of the community!

[FallingKnife]

I will restore Pnoch's Mac wallet to Unobtanium.uno.

edit: done, also added Android wallet to english page. Chinese is next.

[edgar]

@FK - you're a star!

@Pnoch - i tried with/without .conf file and wallet failed to sync for over a week. nobody could explain why.

bluechist version synced as expected.

android wallet is working fine so long as the trusted peer is available - if not it needs to be swapped for another

here - ( https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/#!network )

[IMZ]

Making slow but high-quality progress on our 'Project Paper-Wallets.' Got two players now with Uno in paper wallets, and we're refining the process at every step.

IMZ Mark

[IanRidgwell]

I saw an anecdotal comment that Aussies make up about 20% of world use of Bitcoin outside of china.

This sounds like bullshit to me, knowing that you can buy just about fek all with it here and pwer costs make farming innefective.

However there is this http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/australia-comes-top-of-global-list-for-recreational-drug-use-in-united-nations-2014-world-drug-report/story-fni0cx12-1226979809971

Which is to say we are one of the highest users of recreation drugs in the first world.

Causality or correlation?

[edited - statistics correction]

[Jelks]

I got into mining about a year and a half ago.  Started with one Block Erupter and several USB Antminers. Just Bitcoin and Namecoin, trying out several different pools (BitMinter, Eligius, Slush).  

Then I discovered UNO on Bastille Day (July 14th), 2014, and started looking into it.  I ended up getting a bunch of more USB Antminers (each 2+GH/s), 2 IceFury/NanoFuries (~2.5 GH/s), then 6 BiFurys (~5 GH/s each, except for one defective one that ran at about the level of a NanoFury).  

I was mining UNO exclusively by now, using MultiMiner, and various pools, moving from one to the other.  Here is what my rig(s) looked like:



Note: the 2 NanoFuries are sort of hidden behind the fan on the little Amazon USB hub on the right, you can sort of see one of them.  Also, the Block Erupter is visible at the back of that same hub.

Total was about 70-80 GH/s.  Interesting, but USB ASICs are, to be frank, a PITA.  They've got to be attached to a running PC which has to be on all the time, or at least all the time you want to mine.

I was also buying UNO, here there and when I could.

Then I bought 2 AntMiner S3's.  Now we're talking serious hash power, at least compared to the Frankenstein USB rig setup.  Each S3 was ~440 GH/s.  And they ran *stand-alone*, so even when I was traveling or had my laptop off for whatever reason, they still mined.

Combined with my USB rigs, I was often getting about 1 TH/s.  Not bad.  At the time.

Then I bought a 2 TH/s contract with Genesis Mining.  At first, I wasn't at all impressed with them.  OK, just not impressive.

Fast forward to today.  I retired the USB ASICs (a friend of mine is going to help me try and sell them -- either piecemeal or the entire rig -- on eBay).  So I'm just left with the 2 S3's, returning me an average of 850 - 900 GH/s (just under a TH).  With mmpool, I get a teeny sprinkling of Namecoin, UNO, and Bitcoin.  And I *mean* a sprinkling, every 3-5 days!

Genesis Mining, on the other hand, has somehow upped its return so that I'm usually getting .9+ UNOs *every single day*!!!

So I'll be selling the S3's too.  Tired of the noise, the electricity costs, worrying about hardware, pool downtimes (with and without DDOS), occasional internet connection problems, etc., etc.

Bottom line, Genesis Mining is pretty darn cool (and I don't even follow their thread here on BCT).  Whatever they're doing, they're doing right.  Getting almost one UNO a day in these post-halving days with 2 TH/s is fine by me!

And I can dump the hardware and the hassles...

I'll be curious as to what GM can do come the next halving...

Anyway, in the meantime, a BIG THUMBS UP to Genesis Mining!!!

[BitcoinNational]

@Ian

Causality or correlation?

I think recreational use stats may have helped to ignite the fire, but once cryptos are discovered then the benefits become apparent.  So things branch out quickly.  In case of illegal stuff, crypto has better anon products than btc for those things.  Happy to see Aussies have leading crypto adoption rates, lets make UNO one of their favorites.

@Jelks

Jealous.  USB Miners are under rated.  Yes for bitcoin/uno not enough hash power, but the sha256 hybrid pow/pos are excellent algos that don't need PH/s ... they do just fine with 1 TH/s.  And anyone with a few sticks can mine them.  This is another product UNO might offer .... USB sticks.  (as in research which is the best maker/model/value and groupon order a batch).


@ all

Deep ponder of the day.  The general goal of Alts 2013-2014 was to create the next BTC.  But really only LTC stands a chance at even competing in that market capital / daily volume.  So most constructed a schedule of POW (read costs of mining) plus long coin inflation tail ... why ... because that model allows for price to remain fixed (at least in theory).  But the general public has misunderstood the price increase for bitcoin, it may take many years for bitcoin to return to +$1000, if it ever returns to that range.  So there is lots of confusion, in fact the majority of the btc public lacks understanding of this constant perpetual coin inflation.

However coins like NXT and Black might achieve enough exposure to inform the general public that there are other kinds of coin models that favor investors verses miners.  POS vs POW models.

Coins you use to spend (liquidity / payment rails)
Coins you HODL (batteries / stores of value / aka UNO)

Once this paradigm shift occures then UNO is in a very excellent position.

offering:
POS like mechanics but POW hash security

I still think this understanding won't happen in mass force until 2017-2019.

Stakes are still generally thought of as 'shit coins'.  It will take some big gains by the POS coins to change that perception.   The words, Peer and NXT will have to enter the mom & pop lexicon.

By then hopefully UNO will have run another cycle up and stablized back down.  And will be looking good.

"The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools"
and bitcoin shields their inflationary problem fool'm once going for fool'm twice but at what price

    

[IMZ]

@ Jelks: pretty cool report. One thing I like about cryptos is how many fields there are. Ian and I were full-tilt from day one, but we didn't mine our first coin until almost two years later.

IMZ Mark

[siameze]

@ Jelks contact me if you want to sell a few antminer usb sticks. I have a project going for which those are still useful.

Also, why tie down a good PC for miners? Pogos and miracasts can be had all day for $20 and make excellent mining controllers. I have precompiled arm binaries for cgminer and gridseed dualminers on my website.

[Zeta0S]

I got into mining about a year and a half ago.  Started with one Block Erupter and several USB Antminers. Just Bitcoin and Namecoin, trying out several different pools (BitMinter, Eligius, Slush).  

Then I discovered UNO on Bastille Day (July 14th), 2014, and started looking into it.  I ended up getting a bunch of more USB Antminers (each 2+GH/s), 2 IceFury/NanoFuries (~2.5 GH/s), then 6 BiFurys (~5 GH/s each, except for one defective one that ran at about the level of a NanoFury).  

I was mining UNO exclusively by now, using MultiMiner, and various pools, moving from one to the other.  Here is what my rig(s) looked like:

https://i.imgur.com/BGHN8x0.jpg

Note: the 2 NanoFuries are sort of hidden behind the fan on the little Amazon USB hub on the right, you can sort of see one of them.  Also, the Block Erupter is visible at the back of that same hub.

Total was about 70-80 GH/s.  Interesting, but USB ASICs are, to be frank, a PITA.  They've got to be attached to a running PC which has to be on all the time, or at least all the time you want to mine.

I was also buying UNO, here there and when I could.

Then I bought 2 AntMiner S3's.  Now we're talking serious hash power, at least compared to the Frankenstein USB rig setup.  Each S3 was ~440 GH/s.  And they ran *stand-alone*, so even when I was traveling or had my laptop off for whatever reason, they still mined.

Combined with my USB rigs, I was often getting about 1 TH/s.  Not bad.  At the time.

Then I bought a 2 TH/s contract with Genesis Mining.  At first, I wasn't at all impressed with them.  OK, just not impressive.

Fast forward to today.  I retired the USB ASICs (a friend of mine is going to help me try and sell them -- either piecemeal or the entire rig -- on eBay).  So I'm just left with the 2 S3's, returning me an average of 850 - 900 GH/s (just under a TH).  With mmpool, I get a teeny sprinkling of Namecoin, UNO, and Bitcoin.  And I *mean* a sprinkling, every 3-5 days!

Genesis Mining, on the other hand, has somehow upped its return so that I'm usually getting .9+ UNOs *every single day*!!!

So I'll be selling the S3's too.  Tired of the noise, the electricity costs, worrying about hardware, pool downtimes (with and without DDOS), occasional internet connection problems, etc., etc.

Bottom line, Genesis Mining is pretty darn cool (and I don't even follow their thread here on BCT).  Whatever they're doing, they're doing right.  Getting almost one UNO a day in these post-halving days with 2 TH/s is fine by me!

And I can dump the hardware and the hassles...

I'll be curious as to what GM can do come the next halving...

Anyway, in the meantime, a BIG THUMBS UP to Genesis Mining!!!

This is one of my accounts, getting lots of uno each day 

[IMZ]

Welcome, Zeta0s! Sigh. Gettin' set up to mine with Genesis remains high on Our List.

IMZ Mark

[FallingKnife]

That's interesting, Jelks. Thats some nice hash you have over there. I had noted in an earlier post that I was getting consistent payouts of about .12 Uno on just 250 gb of hash at Genesis.

My knowledge of running a cloud mining shop is minimal. But the only way I can imagine getting these kinds of payouts is if Genesis has implemented merge mining with Uno, and if you select Uno mining, they then payout all of your earnings in Uno, rather than in btc.

FYI, this is Genesis' current hot wallet address.  https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/address.dws?uPqUBmNJvr6PVYoEibzE9PQZ5Kzgzd7D6L.htm

[Gekko463]

Even if you make a .conf?

addnode and it will find the network

Or am I missing something?

*Krypto Superdog beat me to the punch but yeah we are suggesting the same.

**Does the 'yellow' version MAC wallet have the same issue?

currently pnoch's is the ONLY mac version.  I had to download the .conf file and put it in the folder.

Downloaded pnoch's version again.  Still no block source.  

I may be picky and precious here, but...why doesn't this just work?  I have never, since my first dogecoin wallet had to try to go under the hood and fix a wallet on a Mac to make it work.  I am not a computer person.  I'm a USER.

So now, is being a coder a pre-requisite for owning UNO?  This seems just downright broken and neglected to me.

I do not know how to download and install a config, where to get one, or where to put it or modify it with nodes.  And I don't WANT TO.   In fact, the sentence I just wrote means nothing to me.  I am just aping what you guys wrote.

Can somebody fix this?  Or is UNO for elite hackers only now?

Maybe THIS (lack of quality experience) is why the price is in free fall?

[IanRidgwell]

I had a pittance of genesis mining but I bought pre Altcoin collapse so I had scrypt and it wasn't paying in any way shape or form. I converted to a pittance of Bitcoin and it now pretty much pays all transaction fees I may or may not make. Its unlikely to ROI without further investment but overall I've had worse investments. 10/10 will genesis mine again if I get the monies.

[Zeta0S]

I had a pittance of genesis mining but I bought pre Altcoin collapse so I had scrypt and it wasn't paying in any way shape or form. I converted to a pittance of Bitcoin and it now pretty much pays all transaction fees I may or may not make. Its unlikely to ROI without further investment but overall I've had worse investments. 10/10 will genesis mine again if I get the monies.

Two more screenshots for two other accounts i have, one is mining UNO whit 0.6433 TH/s and the other is one (4.TH/S) bitcoin mining only.


For you guys wanna try Genesis Mining, There are two great discount vouchers.
One is in my sign below (MOON) and the other is MARS.

I have to go now for some days, gonna drive 950km to France for the holidays, and  Uno is gonna pay for the trip(gas).