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[philipma1957]

I just did some math on power consumption and I really hope there is an error somewhere:

Gridseed small: 20W per MH/s
Gridseed blade: 17W per MH/s
Fury: 30W per MH/s
Black Widow: 25W per MH/s
Falcon: 24W per MH/s
War Machine: 24W per MH/s
Big Gun: 28W per MH/s

Even assuming 10% overestimate on power consumption and 20% underestimate on performance, these numbers are worse than Gridseed, let alone Innosilicon.

However Zeus gives different numbers for their miners (roughly 13W per MH/s), so hopefully theirs are correct.

Any chance of GAW responding to these, and the other issues, that are being repeatedly raised and then drowned out by fan-boys gushing all over this thread?

Seriously, this is a big deal, 28nm ASIC miners are here now, properly power-efficient ones, not the half-assed Gridseed miner that was just barely better than a GPU, so why the awful power usage on these GAW miners?

What are you talking about  a half -assed gridseed miner that was just barely better then a gpu.

10.2 mh at 292 watts 30 five chip units  of gridseeds.

1 r290x = 300 watts for .88mh    also running was my pc on the same psu. for the 30 gridseeds or the 1 r290x



 so a gridseed is 12x the  hash for the same  power

no blades do 85-95 watts. there are more like 110 watts

 a five chip does about 8 watts. 15 of them do about 120 watts



  The new gear all of it is about 5% improvement on a gridseed five chip unit.

I still buy the five chip gridseeds since they are not that bad if the price is correct.

  Repeat   no new gear   is a clear power winner over a gridseed.  No new gear clearly shows 2x the efficiency  of a five chip gridseed.

 so if 30 gridseeds can do 290 watts  at 10.2 mh  


  no newer gear shows real test results   =    none that 10.2mh  would be 200 watts   from any company.  

If there is gear doing this with real world tests results show a link.  

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[philipma1957]

Until the new Zeus stuff hits the public and we can do a proper comparison it's tough to say what is "best".  There's also things like rejects, error rate, etc., that can make a small power difference negligible.

Yes I agree.  So far the only long term good watt per hash info is on gridseeds.

I also have not seen a lot to suggest that the new gear is a lot better.


 So if I do 10mh with 290 watts with gridseeds clocked to 850freq.   With very little rejects  99% or better good.  

And I do this.  with my 5 chip gridseeds 

I need to do  10mh 200watts with the new gear and 99%  or better good hash rate.

   So far there has been not a lot of info to show if this is the case.     Like you say time will tell.

If may turn out that gridseeds are still viable if the price is good.

[SDRebel]

Until the new Zeus stuff hits the public and we can do a proper comparison it's tough to say what is "best".  There's also things like rejects, error rate, etc., that can make a small power difference negligible.

Yes I agree.  So far the only long term good watt per hash info is on gridseeds.

I also have not seen a lot to suggest that the new gear is a lot better.


 So if I do 10mh with 290 watts with gridseeds clocked to 850freq.   With very little rejects  99% or better good.  

And I do this.  with my 5 chip gridseeds 

I need to do  10mh 200watts with the new gear and 99%  or better good hash rate.

   So far there has been not a lot of info to show if this is the case.     Like you say time will tell.

If may turn out that gridseeds are still viable if the price is good.

for those that can get them for 60, it's still a very good option, and a present one !

[alienesb]

I'm almost hoping this. ^^^  Blades have been amazing in regards to uptime and performance.

Yeah, I'd love to see some super-cheap prices for Blades...

[RavenX]

Going dark for a while. Heading to Alaska then on to Iceland for Project Prime

So hosting is back, but can you explain something?

Week 1 Fury unhosted is $169.95

Week 1 Fury hosted is $219.95

That's $50 more for hosting.  But on your page you also say there is a 2.5% fee for hosting.  So you're charging an extra $50 as well as taking fees?  Did updates cross one another or something in regards to the site pricing and terms for hosting?  Doing the math @ $0.10/kWh means it'll cost less than $15 to host a Fury for the year power-wise, exact numbers being $14.60, whereas the 2.5% fee will collect $14.40 (using current LTC diff + pricing for everything).  So for hosting the price is really, over the course of one year, $219.95 + the 2.5% fee, so $234.35.

Is that right?  Since Josh is heading to the land of the elves can someone else at GAW comment on this?

+1

I asked the same question.
If you already pay a fee of 2.5% for hosting, there's no reason for price difference.

[philipma1957]

Until the new Zeus stuff hits the public and we can do a proper comparison it's tough to say what is "best".  There's also things like rejects, error rate, etc., that can make a small power difference negligible.

Yes I agree.  So far the only long term good watt per hash info is on gridseeds.

I also have not seen a lot to suggest that the new gear is a lot better.


 So if I do 10mh with 290 watts with gridseeds clocked to 850freq.   With very little rejects  99% or better good.  

And I do this.  with my 5 chip gridseeds 

I need to do  10mh 200watts with the new gear and 99%  or better good hash rate.

   So far there has been not a lot of info to show if this is the case.     Like you say time will tell.

If may turn out that gridseeds are still viable if the price is good.

for those that can get them for 60, it's still a very good option, and a present one !

I have been buying sets of 2 for 120.   I am  very happy to do so.

[SDRebel]

Until the new Zeus stuff hits the public and we can do a proper comparison it's tough to say what is "best".  There's also things like rejects, error rate, etc., that can make a small power difference negligible.

Yes I agree.  So far the only long term good watt per hash info is on gridseeds.

I also have not seen a lot to suggest that the new gear is a lot better.


 So if I do 10mh with 290 watts with gridseeds clocked to 850freq.   With very little rejects  99% or better good.  

And I do this.  with my 5 chip gridseeds 

I need to do  10mh 200watts with the new gear and 99%  or better good hash rate.

   So far there has been not a lot of info to show if this is the case.     Like you say time will tell.

If may turn out that gridseeds are still viable if the price is good.

for those that can get them for 60, it's still a very good option, and a present one !

I have been buying sets of 2 for 120.   I am  very happy to do so.

i want some of that but dont qualify for that pricing

[burner2014]

Going dark for a while. Heading to Alaska then on to Iceland for Project Prime

So hosting is back, but can you explain something?

Week 1 Fury unhosted is $169.95

Week 1 Fury hosted is $219.95

That's $50 more for hosting.  But on your page you also say there is a 2.5% fee for hosting.  So you're charging an extra $50 as well as taking fees?  Did updates cross one another or something in regards to the site pricing and terms for hosting?  Doing the math @ $0.10/kWh means it'll cost less than $15 to host a Fury for the year power-wise, exact numbers being $14.60, whereas the 2.5% fee will collect $14.40 (using current LTC diff + pricing for everything).  So for hosting the price is really, over the course of one year, $219.95 + the 2.5% fee, so $234.35.

Is that right?  Since Josh is heading to the land of the elves can someone else at GAW comment on this?

+1

I asked the same question.
If you already pay a fee of 2.5% for hosting, there's no reason for price difference.

+3

[lyn168]

Going dark for a while. Heading to Alaska then on to Iceland for Project Prime

So hosting is back, but can you explain something?

Week 1 Fury unhosted is $169.95

Week 1 Fury hosted is $219.95

That's $50 more for hosting.  But on your page you also say there is a 2.5% fee for hosting.  So you're charging an extra $50 as well as taking fees?  Did updates cross one another or something in regards to the site pricing and terms for hosting?  Doing the math @ $0.10/kWh means it'll cost less than $15 to host a Fury for the year power-wise, exact numbers being $14.60, whereas the 2.5% fee will collect $14.40 (using current LTC diff + pricing for everything).  So for hosting the price is really, over the course of one year, $219.95 + the 2.5% fee, so $234.35.

Is that right?  Since Josh is heading to the land of the elves can someone else at GAW comment on this?

+1

I asked the same question.
If you already pay a fee of 2.5% for hosting, there's no reason for price difference.

+3

Same Here.

[kingscrown]

G-blade review + review of GAWminers cloud scrypt hosting by me - http://fuk.io/gridseed-g-blade-vs-gawminers-cloud-hosting-comparision-and-review/

[sminer2014]

Did Gaw Miners stop selling the Blades?

[GAW Miners_CEO]

G-blade review + review of GAWminers cloud scrypt hosting by me - http://fuk.io/gridseed-g-blade-vs-gawminers-cloud-hosting-comparision-and-review/

Thanks for the review.

Send me your contact info. Would love to have you review Project Prime

[brian_23452]

Did Gaw Miners stop selling the Blades?

Ide like to know this too.  I emailed them but they never responded.

[GAW Miners_CEO]

Did Gaw Miners stop selling the Blades?

Ide like to know this too.  I emailed them but they never responded.

Not at the moment. Gridseed it at my door, literally, every day for us to start buying again.

But I will not, until they honor their commitment to reimburse our customers.

It stinks, but if someone does not make a stand, they will keep doing it

[sminer2014]

Did Gaw Miners stop selling the Blades?

Ide like to know this too.  I emailed them but they never responded.

Not at the moment. Gridseed it at my door, literally, every day for us to start buying again. But I will not, until they honor their commitment to reimburse our customers

Thanks Josh for the reply. Is that mean we are going to get more than a Fury if they do?

[GAW Miners_CEO]

Going dark for a while. Heading to Alaska then on to Iceland for Project Prime

So hosting is back, but can you explain something?

Week 1 Fury unhosted is $169.95

Week 1 Fury hosted is $219.95

That's $50 more for hosting.  But on your page you also say there is a 2.5% fee for hosting.  So you're charging an extra $50 as well as taking fees?  Did updates cross one another or something in regards to the site pricing and terms for hosting?  Doing the math @ $0.10/kWh means it'll cost less than $15 to host a Fury for the year power-wise, exact numbers being $14.60, whereas the 2.5% fee will collect $14.40 (using current LTC diff + pricing for everything).  So for hosting the price is really, over the course of one year, $219.95 + the 2.5% fee, so $234.35.

Is that right?  Since Josh is heading to the land of the elves can someone else at GAW comment on this?

+1

I asked the same question.
If you already pay a fee of 2.5% for hosting, there's no reason for price difference.

+3

Same Here.

Hi, the price is what it is to cover our cost. First, we would need to charge about 8% to cover our back haul, power, staff, and building to cover out cost. Second, we also have to add a controller to each of these, which also have cost.

Best case, we break even on the cost they are now. Our board did not want to offer them as hosted, but I like the idea of offering a small hosted product for folks that don't have much money to spend.

[GAW Miners_CEO]

Did Gaw Miners stop selling the Blades?

Ide like to know this too.  I emailed them but they never responded.

Not at the moment. Gridseed it at my door, literally, every day for us to start buying again. But I will not, until they honor their commitment to reimburse our customers

Thanks Josh for the reply. Is that mean we are going to get more than a Fury if they do?

I don't want to get everyone's hopes up, which is why I have not said anything. But, I am still trying

This comes up every day.

[kebabman]

If you're looking for people to give feedback on Project Prime I'd be happy to help.

[ranlo]

G-blade review + review of GAWminers cloud scrypt hosting by me - http://fuk.io/gridseed-g-blade-vs-gawminers-cloud-hosting-comparision-and-review/

Oh dear. Everyone's a journalist now, even those who would fail a 3rd grade spelling test (and don't know what the squiggly red line means). Lack of clue about the subject apparently is a prerequisite too.

When the most popular site (CoinDesk) even fails quality standards, you know there's a big problem. It's a bit depressing when you can't even read through their articles without cringing due to the complete lack of editing (things like misusing "your" should never live, nor should all the run-ons and other problems that are prevalent there).

[kebabman]

G-blade review + review of GAWminers cloud scrypt hosting by me - http://fuk.io/gridseed-g-blade-vs-gawminers-cloud-hosting-comparision-and-review/

Oh dear. Everyone's a journalist now, even those who would fail a 3rd grade spelling test (and don't know what the squiggly red line means). Lack of clue about the subject apparently is a prerequisite too.

Putting my nice guy hat on, maybe English isn't his first language?