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October 16, 2022, 07:17:24 PM
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it's hard to predict whether Feyenoord will win against AZ when the match will take place at home to AZ. although Feyenoord is a strong team, compared to AZ, they have lost 1 time while AZ is still unbeaten. I predict AZ will win with a score of 2-0 in today's match.

Have you seen the results of the AZ Vs Feyenoord match?

Feyenoord won from AZ in the away match with a score of 1 - 3, other than that according to my prediction that this week the standings will be led by Ajax, although PSV won by a big score (6 - 1) from Utrecht, but currently Ajax are also leading the match against Excelsior. Maybe we will see additional goals from Ajax, I predict that the Ajax Vs Utrecht match will end with a score of 5 - 0.

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October 16, 2022, 08:18:04 PM
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Feyenoord won from AZ in the away match with a score of 1 - 3, other than that according to my prediction that this week the standings will be led by Ajax, although PSV won by a big score (6 - 1) from Utrecht, but currently Ajax are also leading the match against Excelsior. Maybe we will see additional goals from Ajax, I predict that the Ajax Vs Utrecht match will end with a score of 5 - 0.
Interesting round with some big results. Ajax after another poor performance in Champions League were really angry today. They destroyed Excelsior 7:1 and returns on the top of table. PSV win against Utrecht were easy too - 6:1. Thing started well for AZ as they scored first goal, but Feyenoord responded them with 3 goals and won game. AZ dropped 1st to 4th place after this game, but everything is so close between Top 4 now.

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October 16, 2022, 08:38:37 PM
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AZ - Feyenoord was a pretty interesting match. The first half was balanced and the score was 1-1 also. But AZ started to perform really badly in the second half. They had like only one shot in the whole half and Feyenoord started to take control of the match. It was a well-deserved win by 3-1 for Feyenoord for certain. The last time Feyenoord defeated them here was in 2017 so this was an important victory for them mentally also.

Ajax were like they revenged the Napoli loss against Excelsior by a huge 7-1 win. There isn't much to surprise about of course. It is the same about PSV also. There is only a two-point gap between the leader Ajax and the fourth team which are AZ now. It is lovely to follow such rivalry for the title for now but I'm confident that there will be only Ajax and PSV left in this at a point.

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October 16, 2022, 08:51:17 PM
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AZ had become a kind of title favorite for many people in the Netherlands due to the performance and the game shown in recent months. Also in Europe of course. Feyenoord was better and had a good win. But football is so opportunistic, if you play a few matches well you are favorite for the title and if you lose twice then you can't do anything anymore. But the fact that the title race is still completely open is only nice for the football spectators. Ajax lashed out hard and I think there was also a lot of frustration in all those goals.

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October 16, 2022, 09:15:20 PM
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it's hard to predict whether Feyenoord will win against AZ when the match will take place at home to AZ. although Feyenoord is a strong team, compared to AZ, they have lost 1 time while AZ is still unbeaten. I predict AZ will win with a score of 2-0 in today's match.
Have you seen the results of the AZ Vs Feyenoord match?

Feyenoord won from AZ in the away match with a score of 1 - 3, other than that according to my prediction that this week the standings will be led by Ajax, although PSV won by a big score (6 - 1) from Utrecht, but currently Ajax are also leading the match against Excelsior. Maybe we will see additional goals from Ajax, I predict that the Ajax Vs Utrecht match will end with a score of 5 - 0.
You have to check timing and other elements before replying any post because this post was created before start of the match and then surely there was no clue what is going to happen in this match most of the peoples were feeling as league leaders AZ Alkmaar is surely going to dominate this match as they were undefeated team and doing amazing job but Feyenoord done good job and completely outclass them at home which is surely a big success.

Now with this result Ajax is new leaders and PSV is at second spot Feyenoord at third and after first defeat now AZ Alkmaar now dropped to fourth which is surely not good, but they have ability and quality to fight back hopefully we will have good changes in league table in coming weeks.

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October 16, 2022, 10:46:18 PM
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These are pretty shocking results:

Twente 3 - 0 FC Groningen

Twente crushed Groningen, it was an easy win for Twente

PSV Eindhoven 6 - 1 FC Utrecht

in this game also PSV Eindhoven crushed their opponent, honestly Utrecht conceded 6 goals and didn't even have any chance to win or draw in that game

Ajax 7 - 1 Excelsior

Ajax also crushed his opponent by scoring 7 goals, it looks like there were no Excelsior players on the field

AZ had become a kind of title favorite for many people in the Netherlands due to the performance and the game shown in recent months. Also in Europe of course. Feyenoord was better and had a good win. But football is so opportunistic, if you play a few matches well you are favorite for the title and if you lose twice then you can't do anything anymore. But the fact that the title race is still completely open is only nice for the football spectators. Ajax lashed out hard and I think there was also a lot of frustration in all those goals.

looking at the current scenario, AZ doesn't have a great chance of being champion,

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October 17, 2022, 07:09:34 AM
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it's hard to predict whether Feyenoord will win against AZ when the match will take place at home to AZ. although Feyenoord is a strong team, compared to AZ, they have lost 1 time while AZ is still unbeaten. I predict AZ will win with a score of 2-0 in today's match.
Have you seen the results of the AZ Vs Feyenoord match?

Feyenoord won from AZ in the away match with a score of 1 - 3, other than that according to my prediction that this week the standings will be led by Ajax, although PSV won by a big score (6 - 1) from Utrecht, but currently Ajax are also leading the match against Excelsior. Maybe we will see additional goals from Ajax, I predict that the Ajax Vs Utrecht match will end with a score of 5 - 0.

because losing to Feyenoord made AZ drop straight to rank 4, did not think that AZ was able to concede 3 goals after having led by 1 goal in the 26th minute through Odgaard's goal.

PSV won 6-1 against utrecht
Ajax won 7-1 against Excelsior

looks like both teams (PSV and Ajax) are really competing hard for the top position of the Eredivisie league.

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October 17, 2022, 09:15:11 AM
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You have to check timing and other elements before replying any post because this post was created before start of the match and then surely there was no clue what is going to happen in this match most of the peoples were feeling as league leaders AZ Alkmaar is surely going to dominate this match as they were undefeated team and doing amazing job but Feyenoord done good job and completely outclass them at home which is surely a big success.

I'm aware of those things mate, I just wanted to make a follow up on the argument made by @Ludmilla_rose1995, you see? he made another reply of my response, sometimes we have to make things like that to make this topic more interactive.

because losing to Feyenoord made AZ drop straight to rank 4, did not think that AZ was able to concede 3 goals after having led by 1 goal in the 26th minute through Odgaard's goal.

That makes sense, because Feyenoord is actually much stronger than AZ Alkmaar in terms of team strength. Just like Liverpool, they have just been unlucky this season. You can see the performance of the brand last season, they were even able to finish in 3rd place in the standings.

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October 17, 2022, 11:56:58 AM
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because losing to Feyenoord made AZ drop straight to rank 4, did not think that AZ was able to concede 3 goals after having led by 1 goal in the 26th minute through Odgaard's goal.

PSV won 6-1 against utrecht
Ajax won 7-1 against Excelsior

looks like both teams (PSV and Ajax) are really competing hard for the top position of the Eredivisie league.

Ajax and PSV overran their opponents and AZ surprisingly lost to Feyenoord, I was expecting a draw.

So now Ajax are top of the table again and the top 4 teams are only 2 points apart, that's still very little, keep it up.



The season seems to be/becomes more interesting than we all thought.

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October 17, 2022, 04:06:13 PM
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Ajax and PSV overran their opponents and AZ surprisingly lost to Feyenoord, I was expecting a draw.

So now Ajax are top of the table again and the top 4 teams are only 2 points apart, that's still very little, keep it up.

The season seems to be/becomes more interesting than we all thought.

Haven't followed the season much in Eredivisie after giving up on Feyenoord in Europe, but definitely agree that the Alkmaar weirdness does provide for a better season than usual. The weekend was a bit strange though, Freiburg (who have been awesome in Bundesliga) have just been reminded of where they should be same as Alkmaar... I guess as the season wears on we'll see the dust settle and the rightful positions restored.

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October 18, 2022, 11:00:53 AM
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Haven't followed the season much in Eredivisie after giving up on Feyenoord in Europe, but definitely agree that the Alkmaar weirdness does provide for a better season than usual. The weekend was a bit strange though, Freiburg (who have been awesome in Bundesliga) have just been reminded of where they should be same as Alkmaar... I guess as the season wears on we'll see the dust settle and the rightful positions restored.

The Eredivisie is definitely more balanced this year, and we've already talked about whether Feyenoord and AZ can keep up with PSV and Ajax in a longer season. It would be nice for us spectors if it was a four-way fight until the end, but it will be difficult if Ajax lose the difficult and intense Champions League games and the whole squad is fitter in the spring.

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October 18, 2022, 02:40:41 PM
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Haven't followed the season much in Eredivisie after giving up on Feyenoord in Europe, but definitely agree that the Alkmaar weirdness does provide for a better season than usual. The weekend was a bit strange though, Freiburg (who have been awesome in Bundesliga) have just been reminded of where they should be same as Alkmaar... I guess as the season wears on we'll see the dust settle and the rightful positions restored.

The Eredivisie is definitely more balanced this year, and we've already talked about whether Feyenoord and AZ can keep up with PSV and Ajax in a longer season. It would be nice for us spectors if it was a four-way fight until the end, but it will be difficult if Ajax lose the difficult and intense Champions League games and the whole squad is fitter in the spring.
Even right now in Dutch League Ajax and PSV have strong hold and with available sources and financial situation both teams are best in business, but positive thing happened in this season we have four teams at top which are competing, and AZ Alkmaar are doing good job now they lost first match against Feyenoord but still had potential for giving tough competition in remaining season to opponents.

Ajax and PSV are again at the top spots as now Ajax is close to drop from Champions League and PSV is doing good in Europa Cup but these both are giving their best in Eredivisie for going into Champions League in next season now next few rounds are easy for top teams, and we can't expect any change in surely things could be interesting after January when all teams will do play with their strength for having top ranks.

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October 19, 2022, 02:07:02 AM
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The Eredivisie is definitely more balanced this year, and we've already talked about whether Feyenoord and AZ can keep up with PSV and Ajax in a longer season. It would be nice for us spectors if it was a four-way fight until the end, but it will be difficult if Ajax lose the difficult and intense Champions League games and the whole squad is fitter in the spring.
I was also a bit surprised with them, especially AZ. a week ago that team was on top, but maybe because their concentration is split in the confederation Europa league they can't control and hold the position on top, then lost at home vs Feyenoord. So, I think if AZ and Feyenoord are capable to compete with Ajax and PSV, the competition would be balanced until the last session. We will see the race between them, of course, if Ajax is still unstable with coordination.

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October 19, 2022, 12:19:30 PM
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Even right now in Dutch League Ajax and PSV have strong hold and with available sources and financial situation both teams are best in business, but positive thing happened in this season we have four teams at top which are competing, and AZ Alkmaar are doing good job now they lost first match against Feyenoord but still had potential for giving tough competition in remaining season to opponents.

Ajax and PSV are again at the top spots as now Ajax is close to drop from Champions League and PSV is doing good in Europa Cup but these both are giving their best in Eredivisie for going into Champions League in next season now next few rounds are easy for top teams, and we can't expect any change in surely things could be interesting after January when all teams will do play with their strength for having top ranks.

Yeah, I've "traditionally" supported Feyenoord, but only because of close ties (spiritual more than anything else perhaps) to Liverpool, not to mention I loved every bit of the season when Dirk Kuyt lifted the trophy with them with YNWA loud and clear.

But equally enjoy seeing PSV and Alkmaar rough up the slick boys from Amsterdam a bit this season (sorry we had to beat them).

Initially thought I'd go watch Cambuur a lot after their helicopter celebration video I came across haha but couldn't bear watching a game.

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October 19, 2022, 05:42:04 PM
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I was also a bit surprised with them, especially AZ. a week ago that team was on top, but maybe because their concentration is split in the confederation Europa league they can't control and hold the position on top, then lost at home vs Feyenoord.

I believe that the problem was not lack of concentration, the opponent was more effective in scoring goals, just see that the opponent scored 3 goals, this overwhelming number of goals shows that Feyenoord was more superior on the field and AZ will need to work hard from now on because the other teams that are below them don't have a big difference in points, if they lose two games it will be enough for other teams to approach them

So, I think if AZ and Feyenoord are capable to compete with Ajax and PSV, the competition would be balanced until the last session.


looking realistically I doubt they will be able to keep up with Ajax and PSV, both Ajax and PSV are very strong teams and they score a lot of goals, it is not easy for other teams to compete with Ajax and PSV unless the other teams are bought by some rich and hire good coaches and good players, only then the other teams would be strong and the league would be more competitive

We will see the race between them, of course, if Ajax is still unstable with coordination.

ajax has already recovered, look at their results from the last 2 games. they won and are at the top, of course they will be champions

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October 19, 2022, 08:23:18 PM
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The Eredivisie is definitely more balanced this year, and we've already talked about whether Feyenoord and AZ can keep up with PSV and Ajax in a longer season. It would be nice for us spectors if it was a four-way fight until the end, but it will be difficult if Ajax lose the difficult and intense Champions League games and the whole squad is fitter in the spring.
I was also a bit surprised with them, especially AZ. a week ago that team was on top, but maybe because their concentration is split in the confederation Europa league they can't control and hold the position on top, then lost at home vs Feyenoord. So, I think if AZ and Feyenoord are capable to compete with Ajax and PSV, the competition would be balanced until the last session. We will see the race between them, of course, if Ajax is still unstable with coordination.

After all, AZ lost to Feyenoord, not some bottom table team. It's painful loss, but not tragedy, they dropped to 4th place, but still just 2 points behind Ajax.
Ajax isn't looking good Champions league, probably they will drop to Europa League, where they can go far. Other 3 clubs also have good chances to go far in Europa and Champions league. In such case, then it's question on squad depth and injuries which can be decisive in title race. Also, big factor will be in what condition players will return after World Cup break. I think it's very likely that it will be big drop of players shape after World Cup.

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October 19, 2022, 09:12:13 PM
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Yesterday and today there were cup matches in the Dutch league. Few to no surprises seen, except for 1 game. Vitesse lost on penalties to De Treffers, an amateur team. That's the fun of such tournaments. But in the competition Vitesse is also doing very poorly and is even almost at the bottom. We might see a long battle for the championship at the top, which is of course great for the neutral football supporter. Ajax really has an enormous wealth on the field and has spent 110 million euros, but that is not yet reflected on the field. Antony is sorely missed, but they got 100 million for that. That was a choice.

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October 20, 2022, 04:19:59 AM
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We will see the race between them, of course, if Ajax is still unstable with coordination.
ajax has already recovered, look at their results from the last 2 games. they won and are at the top, of course they will be champions
Seem yes, I just compare Ajax with team on Champions League that got a big lost with the same team, Napoli. I don't know why they seemed just give up, like helpless and doesn't have the power to rise. This is different when Ajax fight with Eredivisie team, I'm not sure if they changed the focus right now and have a different target, but when they focusing in eredivise only, of course the title is on their hand.

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We will see the race between them, of course, if Ajax is still unstable with coordination.
ajax has already recovered, look at their results from the last 2 games. they won and are at the top, of course they will be champions
Seem yes, I just compare Ajax with team on Champions League that got a big lost with the same team, Napoli. I don't know why they seemed just give up, like helpless and doesn't have the power to rise. This is different when Ajax fight with Eredivisie team, I'm not sure if they changed the focus right now and have a different target, but when they focusing in eredivise only, of course the title is on their hand.
Now this season is going to be difficult for them as they already sold their few top quality players for big amount and coach is also new with this all they already have the worst results in Champions League but here in Eredivisie they have chance even it's also not easy because we are watching few good things in this season with Feyenoord, AZ Alkmaar and PSV all are in good shape and have enough strength for giving them challenge.

Ajax are still superiors in Eredivisie, but this season is going to be difficult for them, and they have to done tough work if they want to win and hold their control on this league which is in trouble with the improved quality of few other teams and most chances now their main focus could be here instead of going into Europa Cup which is also not easy.
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We will see the race between them, of course, if Ajax is still unstable with coordination.
ajax has already recovered, look at their results from the last 2 games. they won and are at the top, of course they will be champions
Seem yes, I just compare Ajax with team on Champions League that got a big lost with the same team, Napoli. I don't know why they seemed just give up, like helpless and doesn't have the power to rise. This is different when Ajax fight with Eredivisie team, I'm not sure if they changed the focus right now and have a different target, but when they focusing in eredivise only, of course the title is on their hand.
Now this season is going to be difficult for them as they already sold their few top quality players for big amount and coach is also new with this all they already have the worst results in Champions League but here in Eredivisie they have chance even it's also not easy because we are watching few good things in this season with Feyenoord, AZ Alkmaar and PSV all are in good shape and have enough strength for giving them challenge.

Ajax are still superiors in Eredivisie, but this season is going to be difficult for them, and they have to done tough work if they want to win and hold their control on this league which is in trouble with the improved quality of few other teams and most chances now their main focus could be here instead of going into Europa Cup which is also not easy.

The last round showed how crazy the league is. They hunt each other with these absurd results week after week, but at least they are showing some weaknesses from time to time and make it a close race at the top.

It will still mostly be about the showdowns like we have seen between AZ and Feyenoord. It does happen that they give away points agains the weaker teams, but the games between the top four are tremendously important whereas in a number of other leagues it is quite a bit more balanced in that teams from the top more frequently lose points against teams from the ranks five and onwards.


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