ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - discussion thread

[sunsilk]

Congratulations to Kuku's stack but they're now under the organization of TNC Predator. Now, the teams for the closed qualifier for the SEA region are complete.

Tomorrow, we're going to see the playoffs and this is just a quick one and it's for the qualifier for the Riyadh Masters.

The first team that TNC is going to face is Aurora. Do you think that they have what it takes to beat them on a best-of-3 series?

I think they don't stand a chance against Aurora line-up but I'm glad to see TNC Predator in Dota 2 pro scene once more and I'm sure Kuku's fan enjoy it as well because we know he is mega popular in South Asia.

Meanwhile , this Riyadh qualifiers looks very suspect right ? trows over trows , teams who line up a team just to compete for this ( bald reborn per example ) and losing dramatically or winning out of nowhere and so on. I've tried to place 2 bets in South America last night and I will never ever trow money in anonymous teams.

They've lost against Aurora and moved down to lower bracket. And TNC won against Execration, now, they're against Bleed Esports after Bleed got eliminated by Talon Esports a while ago.

There is no doubt that Kuku has a huge fan base in South East Asia.

And speaking of lower bracket, it is likely that they're going to be against Blacklist International later on.

[summonerrk]

I don't understand what was done with Dota 2 at all. So far I don't have time to look at the matches and how the teams have adapted to the new balance, but after playing yesterday I was terrified.
The game has changed so much that I have a feeling that I need to learn to play again.

The creators of the Dota with similar patches have an interesting style of changes. But this is a problem for those who rarely play.

[rdbase]

Intel Extreme Masters Dallas we have our semi-finalists in the tournament facing off with eachother in about 4 hours then later on in the day.
Team Spirit vs Vitality
9z vs G2

Knew Spirit would of made it if they got their heads on straight and actually performed better than they actually have been as of late. But Magixx had mentioned this in his last interview with them being knocked out at Dacha.

Haven't heard much out of 9z because I have been out of the CounterStrike scene for a couple of months due to other sports and travels. But it seems they have performed well enough for a spot in the tournament going up against a formable G2 team,

[passwordnow]

Meanwhile , this Riyadh qualifiers looks very suspect right ? trows over trows , teams who line up a team just to compete for this ( bald reborn per example ) and losing dramatically or winning out of nowhere and so on.

What's with this? what region is Bald Reborn playing? I'm trying to look for them but I haven't seen them. But I get it about these qualifiers and some throws here and there can happen just to secure some slots and whichever amount they get after the RM, they'd probably share. We don't know, if ESL will do some investigations about it and finds out that they're being cheated through selling games one after another, they'd for sure going to get banned and they are not going to like that. IMO, it's just so crazy when some twists happens but every team wants to get their share with the $5M prize pool.

I've tried to place 2 bets in South America last night and I will never ever trow money in anonymous teams.

It's best to avoid regions that you have no idea who are playing. Although Kpii's stack is there and they're able to qualify for the close qualifiers, I think if it's with the open's, I wouldn't bet there. But with the closed qualifiers, I am more familiar with the teams that are participating there. And if you don't want that much stress at all, get a closer look at the NA region, not that much participants and only 4 teams so 1 slot for them and it is likely that Shopify Rebellion will get it as they're offlaner was replaced from Saberlight to mind_control. While on EEU and WEU, they're the toughest regions IMO and next is China.

Bald Reborn tried their luck in MENA region in closed qualifiers but lost in first game.

Yea , I will avoid SA from now on because players are changing teams from one week to another and that makes every bettors to be confused.

I see, I've seen that they've tried there and missed them when I was looking for it. SA is just like any other region right now. When they are not successful with their run, they are going to reshuffle their roster and think that they'd be better with that. So, it's probably the best thing to avoid when you don't like that kind of gesture for some certain teams there. But just as said, it's just best to avoid a region that you don't follow. It's best to follow the ones that I have mentioned because competition is really there.

Meanwhile , I'm so mega happy with G2 being in semi-finals and beating Faze 2-0. This team deserves a trophy and Niko deserves to lift it <3.

I haven't followed CS2 lately but looks interesting that G2 is going to faze 9z Team. Good luck to both of them or should I say for the all 4 teams remaining.

As boltz mentioned, they signed up in the MENA quals but fell short against V-Tune's stack (Night Pulse). The region qualifier over there is like a free-for-all with EU and SEA teams trying to snag a spot for the closed qualifiers.

Yeah, MENA seems to be a f-f-a region nowadays. When Team Falcons aren't there and already qualified for good tournaments, they're just going to transfer their IPs or have a boot camp there to get qualified with ESL organized tournaments and they're going to have bigger chance of participating these tournaments. But I think that PSG.Quest will get that slot easy and not having a problem at all, or maybe some hope with Nigma. It's been a while since we've seen them.

[rdbase]

I don't follow e-sports very much except Riot Games games (Valorant and LoL). However after the CS2 question on BSFL I started to follow the CS2 tournament in Dallas. It is really very fun to make bets on e-sports. I bet on FaZe yesterday. They fell behind after I bet on them but they managed to make a comeback.

I assume that waiting for the odds of the favourite e-sports teams to increase is a good tactic.

Nice grab earlier in the tournament there @CLS63 !
Because now we have Team Vitality vs G2 Esports in the IEM 2024 Dallas Finals!
Believe that G2 blanked their opponents in 9z so it was a no contest there.

Your suggestion on waiting for the odds to increase before placing a bet could be a better strategy in CS2 since the game format of MR12 was introduced:

source: https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/15t5f8a/someone_give_me_a_legitimate_reason_why_mr12_is_a

I do like Valorant and just wish there were more tournaments available so the interest would be at the same level CounterStrike has had over the past two decades.

[sunsilk]

I don't understand what was done with Dota 2 at all. So far I don't have time to look at the matches and how the teams have adapted to the new balance, but after playing yesterday I was terrified.
The game has changed so much that I have a feeling that I need to learn to play again.

That's fine, you just have to play again and get familiarized with the facet every picking time. The details are there and you have to read and understand what it says for your hero.

The creators of the Dota with similar patches have an interesting style of changes. But this is a problem for those who rarely play.

I know right but it is needed to balance the game and we don't just see one hero dominates the patch or teams dominate the tournaments time after time.

Just enjoy the game and if it seems too difficult to you nowadays, test them with AI just for the familiarization.

[xLays]

I thought there wouldn't be team representing the Philippines at the Riyadh Masters 2024 Dota 2, but luckily Blacklist made comeback against Talon. Talon won game 1, 0-1. Fortunately, Blacklist won games 2 and 3. If it had gone differently, Dota 2 fans in the Philippines would be disappointed at the upcoming Riyadh Masters 2024. If Blacklist International had lost, there would be no player or team from the Philippines at the Riyadh Masters 2024. Aurora is also really strong because of 23(savage). For me, he is still the best carry in SEA, no one can beat him.

[boltz]

Let's go G2! This team deserve this final and they deserve to lift the trophy at the end of the day! It's currently 1-0 with 2nd map on the way on Anubis with 7-5 for Vitality but it's well known that G2 loves to play this map  and they made some crazy comebacks this year on Anubis so don't count them out yet.

[rdbase]

Let's go G2! This team deserve this final and they deserve to lift the trophy at the end of the day! It's currently 1-0 with 2nd map on the way on Anubis with 7-5 for Vitality but it's well known that G2 loves to play this map  and they made some crazy comebacks this year on Anubis so don't count them out yet.

G2 Esports win the Intel Extreme Masters Dallas 2024 trophy with an MVP level performance from m0nesy amd Stewie2k!

G2 have won their first CS2 title of 2024 playing without in-game leader HooXi.
source: https://www.hltv.org/news/39139/g2-complete-miracle-run-with-stewie2k-to-win-iem-dallas

Maybe some new leadership was all they needed. Because m0nesy had always been a good player.So it was really disappointing to see how they were dropping in performance as a team for the last 6 months. Not winning much of anything since the new source came out.
Let's hope they are on the right track now with Stewie2k at the helm or was he just a temporary fix to get over this hump for their premiere title in CS2?

[rohang]

Let's go G2! This team deserve this final and they deserve to lift the trophy at the end of the day! It's currently 1-0 with 2nd map on the way on Anubis with 7-5 for Vitality but it's well known that G2 loves to play this map  and they made some crazy comebacks this year on Anubis so don't count them out yet.

G2 Esports win the Intel Extreme Masters Dallas 2024 trophy with an MVP level performance from m0nesy amd Stewie2k!

G2 have won their first CS2 title of 2024 playing without in-game leader HooXi.
source: https://www.hltv.org/news/39139/g2-complete-miracle-run-with-stewie2k-to-win-iem-dallas

Maybe some new leadership was all they needed. Because m0nesy had always been a good player.So it was really disappointing to see how they were dropping in performance as a team for the last 6 months. Not winning much of anything since the new source came out.
Let's hope they are on the right track now with Stewie2k at the helm or was he just a temporary fix to get over this hump for their premiere title in CS2?

That finals was crazy! monesy solo carrried them!!

And another event with 400k prize is starting tomorrow-
https://www.hltv.org/events/7475/yalla-compass-2024

Got some decent teams id expect astralis or heroic to win 

[ralle14]

Maybe some new leadership was all they needed. Because m0nesy had always been a good player.So it was really disappointing to see how they were dropping in performance as a team for the last 6 months. Not winning much of anything since the new source came out.
Let's hope they are on the right track now with Stewie2k at the helm or was he just a temporary fix to get over this hump for their premiere title in CS2?

That's what I also thought when Stewie stood in for G2, the change of pace probably gave them the push to play this well.

Regardless of the success, it's unlikely for them to bring Stewie in because he wasn't that much of an upgrade over Hooxi and I think it's just the other players from the side of G2 stepped up big time during this tournament. Also, they're lucky that a couple of good teams suddenly underperformed like Mouz and Faze.

[passwordnow]

The MENA qualifiers for the Riyadh Masters Dota 2 has ended. Even if there are only four teams participated there, many have been waiting for that and tuned in for the matches there. So the grand finals was with PSG.Quest and Nigma.Galaxy. Many have thought that we're going to see Nigma.Galaxy again on a big stage like this Riyadh Masters but they fell short against PSG.Quest with a 3-1 score ending for a best of 5 series. Looking at the performance of PSG.Quest and how they went through the grand finals, they don't have any loss from any team they've faced and it did looked easy for them.

And for the South America region qualifiers, it's also done and well played for Beastcoast and Heroic. It's exhausting to see Boom Esports, called GG within just 13 minutes of the game in a grand finals for this qualifiers. Pakasz was titled and raged quit on that match because he can't it anymore, they've been left far behind with their score in kills and obviously, they're just going to lose the 2nd map.

In Western Europe region, Entity and MOUZ took the spots. What's interesting to me is on how MOUZ kicked Team Secret's ass in a 2-0 match easy.

Overall, these are the teams that are participating the Riyadh Masters and I hope that there won't be any problem from any team and players against VISA issues because I think that this is a government sponsored event as they're trying to make Saudi Arabia as a main esports hub in the global scene.

[ralle14]

Looking at the performance of PSG.Quest and how they went through the grand finals, they don't have any loss from any team they've faced and it did looked easy for them.

And for the South America region qualifiers, it's also done and well played for Beastcoast and Heroic. It's exhausting to see Boom Esports, called GG within just 13 minutes of the game in a grand finals for this qualifiers. Pakasz was titled and raged quit on that match because he can't it anymore, they've been left far behind with their score in kills and obviously, they're just going to lose the 2nd map.

In Western Europe region, Entity and MOUZ took the spots. What's interesting to me is on how MOUZ kicked Team Secret's ass in a 2-0 match easy.

Yep, nothing surprising from the MENA region, as Quest is still the second-best team there.

I didn't follow the SA qualifiers, but i'm surprised that BOOM lost that badly against beastcoast when they're like the gatekeepers together with Heroic.

Mouz stepping up recently was a bit expected because they looked better after finishing third in the FISSURE tournament.

[passwordnow]

Looking at the performance of PSG.Quest and how they went through the grand finals, they don't have any loss from any team they've faced and it did looked easy for them.

And for the South America region qualifiers, it's also done and well played for Beastcoast and Heroic. It's exhausting to see Boom Esports, called GG within just 13 minutes of the game in a grand finals for this qualifiers. Pakasz was titled and raged quit on that match because he can't it anymore, they've been left far behind with their score in kills and obviously, they're just going to lose the 2nd map.

In Western Europe region, Entity and MOUZ took the spots. What's interesting to me is on how MOUZ kicked Team Secret's ass in a 2-0 match easy.

Yep, nothing surprising from the MENA region, as Quest is still the second-best team there.

There's no wall there because Team Falcons is already qualified and it is going to be this type of situation every time there are big tournaments coming. So bad that Nigma.Galaxy is always getting that type of results again and again, they're too old and they need to rebump their roster and Kuroky should just play as a coach. He's already rich and I understand his passion about the game but he can continue that by being their coach or analyst when they're always getting failures tournaments after tournaments.

I didn't follow the SA qualifiers, but i'm surprised that BOOM lost that badly against beastcoast when they're like the gatekeepers together with Heroic.

Beastcoast in name is strong but definitely Boom is the second strong team there after Heroic. Pakasz did just gave that game and probably he's titled by his teammates and the game itself as it's already one sided in the last 10 minutes of the game.

Mouz stepping up recently was a bit expected because they looked better after finishing third in the FISSURE tournament.

Yeah, they're a rising team and not that much name for their roster unlike the other teams. It's hard to win with all of these great teams, I guess this is the era that no team is strong and everyone can really make a tier 1 team have an upset.

[rohang]

In Western Europe region, Entity and MOUZ took the spots. What's interesting to me is on how MOUZ kicked Team Secret's ass in a 2-0 match easy.

Overall, these are the teams that are participating the Riyadh Masters and I hope that there won't be any problem from any team and players against VISA issues because I think that this is a government sponsored event as they're trying to make Saudi Arabia as a main esports hub in the global scene.

Yep that mouz series was too easy for them, sad to see secret losing in such a way

I havent heard of anyone getting into visa issues at previous SA tourneys, however players from certain countries dont get it that easily. gonna have to see if that repeats

[arallmuus]

There's no wall there because Team Falcons is already qualified and it is going to be this type of situation every time there are big tournaments coming. So bad that Nigma.Galaxy is always getting that type of results again and again, they're too old and they need to rebump their roster and Kuroky should just play as a coach. He's already rich and I understand his passion about the game but he can continue that by being their coach or analyst when they're always getting failures tournaments after tournaments.

That bolded part though

I used to think that Kuroky was dragging the whole team down with him but after their game against Quest yesterday, I can finally see the bigger picture. The whole team wasnt really in sync and they should just disband. Lots of unsynchronized moves especially on SumaiL and Miracle but its not that they are bad or something, its just things are totally not working out with the as a team anymore

Some of them could have done better on another team for sure. Its actually pretty sad to watch former TI winner got slaughtered by Quest again

[passwordnow]

In Western Europe region, Entity and MOUZ took the spots. What's interesting to me is on how MOUZ kicked Team Secret's ass in a 2-0 match easy.

Overall, these are the teams that are participating the Riyadh Masters and I hope that there won't be any problem from any team and players against VISA issues because I think that this is a government sponsored event as they're trying to make Saudi Arabia as a main esports hub in the global scene.

Yep that mouz series was too easy for them, sad to see secret losing in such a way

I havent heard of anyone getting into visa issues at previous SA tourneys, however players from certain countries dont get it that easily. gonna have to see if that repeats

This isn't an SA tourney but a MENA tournament for which is the Riyadh Masters but I hope that none of them are going to face any issue. Since it is a government supported tournament and they have a goal to become a hub for esports, they'll surely approve all of those players that are required to get in with a VISA.

There's no wall there because Team Falcons is already qualified and it is going to be this type of situation every time there are big tournaments coming. So bad that Nigma.Galaxy is always getting that type of results again and again, they're too old and they need to rebump their roster and Kuroky should just play as a coach. He's already rich and I understand his passion about the game but he can continue that by being their coach or analyst when they're always getting failures tournaments after tournaments.

That bolded part though

I used to think that Kuroky was dragging the whole team down with him but after their game against Quest yesterday, I can finally see the bigger picture. The whole team wasnt really in sync and they should just disband. Lots of unsynchronized moves especially on SumaiL and Miracle but its not that they are bad or something, its just things are totally not working out with the as a team anymore

Some of them could have done better on another team for sure. Its actually pretty sad to watch former TI winner got slaughtered by Quest again

They are past their prime and they have to go individually with other teams. Just like what cr1t said when he used to play in NA with EG and Shopify Rebellion, he just moved out of it and found a better home. I think with Kuroky and other players of Nigma, they need to explore and need younger talents to come in. I know that it's gonna be tough when they are going to stick around but I think with miracle, he's not going anywhere and he just want to stick with kuro but with sumail, after his contract with Nigma expires, he just need to go somewhere else.


Today, I've watched the TI open qualifiers in SEA and to be precise with TNC predator, it's funny that one of their matches only lasted 4 minutes. The opponents offlane had tipped their carry and then said gg and quit the game for that period of time. One of the easiest games and quickest that I've seen. 

[rdbase]

Imperial Esports beat Sharks in the ESL challenger South America just an hour ago and are set to face off against Red Canids tomorrow(a squad I never had heard of before today) who beat favorites 9z.

Grand Finals this weekend to see if Imperial can get back to their winning ways:
https://www.hltv.org/events/7666/esl-challenger-league-season-47-south-america

[ralle14]

however players from certain countries dont get it that easily. gonna have to see if that repeats

We'll probably hear the updates once we're a week or a few days away from the tournament dates since that's how it was in the previous tournaments.

Imperial Esports beat Sharks in the ESL challenger South America just an hour ago and are set to face off against Red Canids tomorrow(a squad I never had heard of before today) who beat favorites 9z.

If Imperial wins the next series, they're locked in for the next season of the ESL Pro League plus they get a map advantage as a team coming from the upper bracket, that's a rare advantage to see in CS2 tournaments.

I also didn't know Red Canids had a CS squad, i'm only familiar with them because their LoL team previously played on the international stage.

[boltz]

The qualifiers for The International started so early this year right ? We are already in Open qualifiers and currently I'm watching Team Bald reborn where SaberLight gave a chance to try his luck to qualify for TI because no team wanted him so far. Funny how Shopify Rebelion failed to qualify for Riyadh without him right ? Now , it's clear that the problem in that team belongs to Bulba for drafting and for RTZ for actually farming way to long and being scared to take team fights.