Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[Baofeng]

I am not certain how the boxing experts like in the forum assess Beterbiev, however, considering only the skills, should he be included in the top 10 pound for pound best boxers? He should be included, I reckon. What is your assessment, @Boafeng?

For sure, he should at least crack the top 10 by now, but let's see how those boxing analyst will put Arthur on their next listing.

And speaking of Beterviev, his fight with Smith is not PPV, but interesting numbers:

The June 18 edition of Top Rank Boxing on ESPN fired on all cylinders, including a main event where an average of 912,000 viewers tuned in for Beterbiev’s second-round, technical knockout of Joe Smith Jr. Beterbiev defended his unified lineal/WBC/IBF light heavyweight championship while violently snatching Smith’s WBO title in Saturday’s headliner at Madison Square Garden’s Hulu Theater in New York City.

https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-smith-main-event-drew-average-audience-912000-viewers-on-espn--167128

So I guess that's a good numbers for that fight. Maybe Beterviev's next will surely headline a PPV event. Maybe Arum is just testing the waters for this one. ESPN and Top Rank should consider him as a good PPV fighters now.

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[bbc.reporter]

I am not certain how the boxing experts like in the forum assess Beterbiev, however, considering only the skills, should he be included in the top 10 pound for pound best boxers? He should be included, I reckon. What is your assessment, @Boafeng?

For sure, he should at least crack the top 10 by now, but let's see how those boxing analyst will put Arthur on their next listing.

And speaking of Beterviev, his fight with Smith is not PPV, but interesting numbers:

The June 18 edition of Top Rank Boxing on ESPN fired on all cylinders, including a main event where an average of 912,000 viewers tuned in for Beterbiev’s second-round, technical knockout of Joe Smith Jr. Beterbiev defended his unified lineal/WBC/IBF light heavyweight championship while violently snatching Smith’s WBO title in Saturday’s headliner at Madison Square Garden’s Hulu Theater in New York City.

https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-smith-main-event-drew-average-audience-912000-viewers-on-espn--167128

So I guess that's a good numbers for that fight. Maybe Beterviev's next will surely headline a PPV event. Maybe Arum is just testing the waters for this one. ESPN and Top Rank should consider him as a good PPV fighters now.

Who will be next for Beterbiev? If I was the promoter it should be against Dmitry Bivol for the undisputed light heavyweight championship. All fans of all types of sport will watch it, it will create millions in profit for the fighters, the sponsors and the promoters. However, I am quite certain this will not happen hehe. I am not certain why boxing promoters are like this. It might only be organized when they are old, very much similar to Amir Khan vs. Kell Brook or Mayweather vs. Pacman.

[YuginKadoya]

Who will be next for Beterbiev? If I was the promoter it should be against Dmitry Bivol for the undisputed light heavyweight championship. All fans of all types of sport will watch it, it will create millions in profit for the fighters, the sponsors and the promoters. However, I am quite certain this will not happen hehe. I am not certain why boxing promoters are like this. It might only be organized when they are old, very much similar to Amir Khan vs. Kell Brook or Mayweather vs. Pacman.

I also like Dmitry Bivol to be his next opponent but sadly it is not yet in tuition, maybe there are problems with the promotion or they are just worried about each fighter getting a loss in their good records but for me certainly I like Artur Beterbiev to have a match against Dmitry Bivol and yes every fan wants a great fight like that, undefeated versus another undefeated, I certainly just wish it will come into fruition,


Another fight that I am anticipating this coming July will be a great fight to watch in my opinion, I surely anticipate this kid to surely performed well and his punching power could be another threat for Fortuna,

Ryan Garcia VS Javier Fortuna

July 16, Los Angeles 12 rounds Lightweight

This will be a test for Ryan Garcia if his punching power can take down Javier Fortuna because Ryan Garcia has proven to have a lethal punch that could knock out his opponent with speed and power, to pressure Fortuna, I would like to really see that right now Garcia had 22 fights all 18 is knockout while 4 was on a decision, and Javier Fortuna has 43 fights, 37 wins 26 knockouts and 11 decisions, while has 3 losses, on his record, Fortuna has the advantage on experience, while Garcia has the reach and height advantage, we will surely see here if the hype on Ryan Garcia is not really a hype but is a proven fact that he is truly a pound for pound, fighter,

[Baofeng]

I am not certain how the boxing experts like in the forum assess Beterbiev, however, considering only the skills, should he be included in the top 10 pound for pound best boxers? He should be included, I reckon. What is your assessment, @Boafeng?

For sure, he should at least crack the top 10 by now, but let's see how those boxing analyst will put Arthur on their next listing.

And speaking of Beterviev, his fight with Smith is not PPV, but interesting numbers:

The June 18 edition of Top Rank Boxing on ESPN fired on all cylinders, including a main event where an average of 912,000 viewers tuned in for Beterbiev’s second-round, technical knockout of Joe Smith Jr. Beterbiev defended his unified lineal/WBC/IBF light heavyweight championship while violently snatching Smith’s WBO title in Saturday’s headliner at Madison Square Garden’s Hulu Theater in New York City.

https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-smith-main-event-drew-average-audience-912000-viewers-on-espn--167128

So I guess that's a good numbers for that fight. Maybe Beterviev's next will surely headline a PPV event. Maybe Arum is just testing the waters for this one. ESPN and Top Rank should consider him as a good PPV fighters now.

Who will be next for Beterbiev? If I was the promoter it should be against Dmitry Bivol for the undisputed light heavyweight championship. All fans of all types of sport will watch it, it will create millions in profit for the fighters, the sponsors and the promoters. However, I am quite certain this will not happen hehe. I am not certain why boxing promoters are like this. It might only be organized when they are old, very much similar to Amir Khan vs. Kell Brook or Mayweather vs. Pacman.

Rumors has it that will be Yarde first. It could be a fight that could go on PPV and it's good though. And just like what others said, UK fans love their local boxer so for sure this will be a sold out fight if they chooses Yarde's hometown.

So we might have to wait for maybe next year for the undisputed fight to happen between Bivol and Beterviev. So yeah, Beterviev will be like 38 years old next year, and Bivol still on his prime, just saying. Maybe we will factor that out once they fight.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Floyd Mayweather vs Mikuru Asakura in Japan.

It was reported that Floyd will have another exhibition in Japan under Rizin in September. We are very familiar that Floyd started his whole exhibitions matches.

And for those who haven't heard the news, Floyd was inducted to the Boxing Hall of Fame, together with a lot of boxers.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/34081958/emotional-floyd-mayweather-jr-calls-international-boxing-hall-fame-induction-career-highlight

Wow! That was fast, he was just fighting Don Moore last month and now he have another exhibition fight, Floyd Mayweather surely knows how to keep his brand known and doing business anywhere in the world for more money. Though I'm not that sure that he started this whole exhibition matches, I know there some matches like these in the late 19th century but in 20th century, many have gone to exhibition matches after they retired, it's just that Mayweather is the remaining person who is capable to sell these fights now.

Right, Floyd can't resist the money for sure, that's why he will be back with his exhition matches again to where he started it all, in Japan. I'm still baffled as to how Rizin can afford Floyd, maybe the first exhibition really gave them a big boost as far as business again as it was reported that Rizin is losing a lot of money as a promotional company. Nevertheless, having this fight again means they still have the big money to offer to Floyd and in return they will also rake profits. I thought though that Floyd vs Manny is being work out.

Wait a minute, when you say Manny, do you mean Pacquiao? because if that is the case my interest will increase a lot, because the truth is I don't like the style that Mayweather has, the truth is I'm still disappointed in what he showed in his fight against him, where they agreed not to give any rematch, for me Mayweather is a boxer who He is only interested in fucking money before anything else, for this reason when it comes to exhibition fights they do not attract much attention to me, because it is not the same interest as a fight with all the law, but in an eventual fight of exhibition against Pacquiao if I would like to see it, maybe I haven't seen much news regarding boxing lately because football has me hooked.

[Russlenat]

But sometimes fate is never on our side and same as them, surely they haven't dreamt of being a boxing superstar but poverty makes the biggest push to make this kids fight to put food on the table. The same as Pacquiao, he grew up in extreme poverty and his mother wanted him to become a priest and not as a boxer but couldn't afford to place him in a seminary. The biggest push that led Pacquiao into a boxer was when his mother had a hard attack, he was left no choice but to have a fight locally and won $2 which he used to buy a medicine. Anyway, Pacquiao was named as Kid-Kulafu and was changed into Pac-Man when he had his 1st professional debut in the world of boxing.

If you guys are wondering how did I know these things, it's because Pacquiao had a movie depicting his early life before he became a star.

I haven't watched the movie yet, but I have known that movie as Kid Kulafu, maybe I will watch it later, and it is pretty much known here in the Phillippines,

Well, many Filipino kids here are pretty much exposed to poverty which is why they think that Boxing will be the only solution to their problem, but I think it is not the case, there are many different aspects of why people become boxers and you can not be rich just because you are a boxer some boxer's failed to deliver or attain what Manny Pacquiao has brought to our country there are boxer here that become poorer when they stop their career as a boxer I think the drives that Manny have will surely differ in many boxers here in the Phillippines, you can be a boxer but do they think they have the mind set and the fuel to become a Manny Pacquiao,

Well, you got some points there. Some are also dreamt of getting famous being a boxing star and some have been successful enough but nowhere near Donaire and Pacquiao's legacy and some are also not that lucky to achieve their dream because it's easy to dream of it but it's hard to be one of those real boxers which we know today because only few really born to be a boxer in the industry.

Manny Pacquiao had a brother named Bobby Pacquiao who is also a professional boxer but the latter had to retire much earlier way back 2008 because his losses are almost coming close to his winnings and he's not getting some main event fight just like Manny had. That's probably one of the good examples that boxing is not for everyone even if boxing is one of those ways to escape poverty.

[freedomgo]

I am not certain how the boxing experts like in the forum assess Beterbiev, however, considering only the skills, should he be included in the top 10 pound for pound best boxers? He should be included, I reckon. What is your assessment, @Boafeng?

For sure, he should at least crack the top 10 by now, but let's see how those boxing analyst will put Arthur on their next listing.

And speaking of Beterviev, his fight with Smith is not PPV, but interesting numbers:

The June 18 edition of Top Rank Boxing on ESPN fired on all cylinders, including a main event where an average of 912,000 viewers tuned in for Beterbiev’s second-round, technical knockout of Joe Smith Jr. Beterbiev defended his unified lineal/WBC/IBF light heavyweight championship while violently snatching Smith’s WBO title in Saturday’s headliner at Madison Square Garden’s Hulu Theater in New York City.

https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-smith-main-event-drew-average-audience-912000-viewers-on-espn--167128

So I guess that's a good numbers for that fight. Maybe Beterviev's next will surely headline a PPV event. Maybe Arum is just testing the waters for this one. ESPN and Top Rank should consider him as a good PPV fighters now.

Who will be next for Beterbiev? If I was the promoter it should be against Dmitry Bivol for the undisputed light heavyweight championship. All fans of all types of sport will watch it, it will create millions in profit for the fighters, the sponsors and the promoters. However, I am quite certain this will not happen hehe. I am not certain why boxing promoters are like this. It might only be organized when they are old, very much similar to Amir Khan vs. Kell Brook or Mayweather vs. Pacman.

Organizing it in later years will only put Beterbiev at the disadvantage corner, better let them get in the same ring while their skills and talent are still reap and it's fun to watch if both boxers are still on their primes. If the fight would materialize then for sure, that would be full-packed fight as well as the PPV revenues but I think Bob Arum is not ready to risk his best boxers yet especially Beterbiev who had a 100% KO rate with no losses. Unfortunately, Beterbieve will just grow old without getting a chance to be an undisputed boxer just like Crawford's career, might as well follow the latter's footstep like getting out of Tap Rank and be a free agent to get his much wanted fight.

[serjent05]

Another fight that I am anticipating this coming July will be a great fight to watch in my opinion, I surely anticipate this kid to surely performed well and his punching power could be another threat for Fortuna,

Ryan Garcia VS Javier Fortuna

July 16, Los Angeles 12 rounds Lightweight

This will be a test for Ryan Garcia if his punching power can take down Javier Fortuna because Ryan Garcia has proven to have a lethal punch that could knock out his opponent with speed and power, to pressure Fortuna, I would like to really see that right now Garcia had 22 fights all 18 is knockout while 4 was on a decision, and Javier Fortuna has 43 fights, 37 wins 26 knockouts and 11 decisions, while has 3 losses, on his record, Fortuna has the advantage on experience, while Garcia has the reach and height advantage, we will surely see here if the hype on Ryan Garcia is not really a hype but is a proven fact that he is truly a pound for pound, fighter,

I looked up on Ryan Garcia's record and this is what I found out:

How quickly does Ryan Garcia finish his opponents? The 5 fastest Flash knockouts

1. 30 SECONDS VS. MIGUEL CARRIZOZA — SEP. 15, 2017; MGM GRAND MARQUEE BALLROOM, LAS VEGAS
2. 72 SECONDS VS. HECTOR GARCIA — JUNE 24, 2016
3. 74 SECONDS VS. MARIO MACIAS — JULY 15, 2017
4. 80 SECONDS VS. FRANCISCO FONSECA — FEB. 14, 2020
5. 94 SECONDS VS. EDGAR MEZA — JUNE 9, 2016

Javier Fortuna have 70% knock out ratio and with only 3 loses where 1 of them is knocked out.  This is an article^[1] that best describes the career of Javier Fortuna.  His last fight was won via KO.

Javier Fortuna's record currently stands at 37 wins, 3 loses and 1 draw. Of those 37 wins he has stopped 26 of his opponents, so his current knock-out ratio is 70%. Of his 3 loses, he's been stopped 1 time. He's boxed a total of 214 rounds, meaning his professional fights last 5.2 rounds on average.

Ryan Garcia is really a heavy hitter but looking at his opponent I think this is a match that can go to anyone.  It is a matter of who kisses the canvass first.  So I think Ryan Garcia need to be very careful here to not blemish his perfect record.

[1] https://champinon.info/boxing/javier-fortuna/

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

But sometimes fate is never on our side and same as them, surely they haven't dreamt of being a boxing superstar but poverty makes the biggest push to make this kids fight to put food on the table. The same as Pacquiao, he grew up in extreme poverty and his mother wanted him to become a priest and not as a boxer but couldn't afford to place him in a seminary. The biggest push that led Pacquiao into a boxer was when his mother had a hard attack, he was left no choice but to have a fight locally and won $2 which he used to buy a medicine. Anyway, Pacquiao was named as Kid-Kulafu and was changed into Pac-Man when he had his 1st professional debut in the world of boxing.

If you guys are wondering how did I know these things, it's because Pacquiao had a movie depicting his early life before he became a star.

I haven't watched the movie yet, but I have known that movie as Kid Kulafu, maybe I will watch it later, and it is pretty much known here in the Phillippines,

Well, many Filipino kids here are pretty much exposed to poverty which is why they think that Boxing will be the only solution to their problem, but I think it is not the case, there are many different aspects of why people become boxers and you can not be rich just because you are a boxer some boxer's failed to deliver or attain what Manny Pacquiao has brought to our country there are boxer here that become poorer when they stop their career as a boxer I think the drives that Manny have will surely differ in many boxers here in the Phillippines, you can be a boxer but do they think they have the mind set and the fuel to become a Manny Pacquiao,

Well, you got some points there. Some are also dreamt of getting famous being a boxing star and some have been successful enough but nowhere near Donaire and Pacquiao's legacy and some are also not that lucky to achieve their dream because it's easy to dream of it but it's hard to be one of those real boxers which we know today because only few really born to be a boxer in the industry.

Manny Pacquiao had a brother named Bobby Pacquiao who is also a professional boxer but the latter had to retire much earlier way back 2008 because his losses are almost coming close to his winnings and he's not getting some main event fight just like Manny had. That's probably one of the good examples that boxing is not for everyone even if boxing is one of those ways to escape poverty.

Bobby doesn't have the talent or maybe the work ethics of Manny that's why he didn't succeed. But he supported his brother throughout and we see him in Manny's fight so perhaps he realized that there could only be one Pacquiao that can make a name for themselves. And Manny maybe is destined to be this great and legend, once in a lifetime gem for Philippine boxing an from rag to riches story.

[btc_angela]

I am not certain how the boxing experts like in the forum assess Beterbiev, however, considering only the skills, should he be included in the top 10 pound for pound best boxers? He should be included, I reckon. What is your assessment, @Boafeng?

For sure, he should at least crack the top 10 by now, but let's see how those boxing analyst will put Arthur on their next listing.

And speaking of Beterviev, his fight with Smith is not PPV, but interesting numbers:

The June 18 edition of Top Rank Boxing on ESPN fired on all cylinders, including a main event where an average of 912,000 viewers tuned in for Beterbiev’s second-round, technical knockout of Joe Smith Jr. Beterbiev defended his unified lineal/WBC/IBF light heavyweight championship while violently snatching Smith’s WBO title in Saturday’s headliner at Madison Square Garden’s Hulu Theater in New York City.

https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-smith-main-event-drew-average-audience-912000-viewers-on-espn--167128

So I guess that's a good numbers for that fight. Maybe Beterviev's next will surely headline a PPV event. Maybe Arum is just testing the waters for this one. ESPN and Top Rank should consider him as a good PPV fighters now.

Who will be next for Beterbiev? If I was the promoter it should be against Dmitry Bivol for the undisputed light heavyweight championship. All fans of all types of sport will watch it, it will create millions in profit for the fighters, the sponsors and the promoters. However, I am quite certain this will not happen hehe. I am not certain why boxing promoters are like this. It might only be organized when they are old, very much similar to Amir Khan vs. Kell Brook or Mayweather vs. Pacman.

Rumors has it that will be Yarde first. It could be a fight that could go on PPV and it's good though. And just like what others said, UK fans love their local boxer so for sure this will be a sold out fight if they chooses Yarde's hometown.

So we might have to wait for maybe next year for the undisputed fight to happen between Bivol and Beterviev. So yeah, Beterviev will be like 38 years old next year, and Bivol still on his prime, just saying. Maybe we will factor that out once they fight.

That's Bob Arum another way of not giving the boxing fans what we wanted. He is for the money and will milk Bivol again. So it will be Yarde in UK with big money flowing in his table. And if Arthur wins with another knockout, his name will grow more in the UK and then US. So there will be a demand for him to face Bivol who beat their US champion in Canelo. So more money for him, it's a trick but win-win situation for Top Rank. Doesn't matter if Beterviev is 38 years old, as long as he will continue to win and win with knockout, the hype will be there.

[YuginKadoya]

Well, you got some points there. Some are also dreamt of getting famous being a boxing star and some have been successful enough but nowhere near Donaire and Pacquiao's legacy and some are also not that lucky to achieve their dream because it's easy to dream of it but it's hard to be one of those real boxers which we know today because only few really born to be a boxer in the industry.

Manny Pacquiao had a brother named Bobby Pacquiao who is also a professional boxer but the latter had to retire much earlier way back 2008 because his losses are almost coming close to his winnings and he's not getting some main event fight just like Manny had. That's probably one of the good examples that boxing is not for everyone even if boxing is one of those ways to escape poverty.

Yes Technically not all are born to be natural there are some that are gifted but they still need to have experience with that sports to be good at it, not all can achieve the greatness of a Manny Pacquaio, Nonito Donaire, in boxing without the given talent, I also think that if your goals in life were just to make money and the passion was not there in what you do, you will not be successful at all, I think that is some mistakes on some boxers here in the Phillippines that are just wishing to be rich with boxing but doesn't have the drive or the passion to do it,

And Bobby Pacquiao's case he surely had enough when he realized that there are now many losses than winning on his record, I think he lost the drive-in pursuit because boxing is not just meant Physically but Mentally aswell,

-snip-

I looked up on Ryan Garcia's record and this is what I found out:

How quickly does Ryan Garcia finish his opponents? The 5 fastest Flash knockouts

1. 30 SECONDS VS. MIGUEL CARRIZOZA — SEP. 15, 2017; MGM GRAND MARQUEE BALLROOM, LAS VEGAS
2. 72 SECONDS VS. HECTOR GARCIA — JUNE 24, 2016
3. 74 SECONDS VS. MARIO MACIAS — JULY 15, 2017
4. 80 SECONDS VS. FRANCISCO FONSECA — FEB. 14, 2020
5. 94 SECONDS VS. EDGAR MEZA — JUNE 9, 2016

Javier Fortuna have 70% knock out ratio and with only 3 loses where 1 of them is knocked out.  This is an article^[1] that best describes the career of Javier Fortuna.  His last fight was won via KO.

Javier Fortuna's record currently stands at 37 wins, 3 loses and 1 draw. Of those 37 wins he has stopped 26 of his opponents, so his current knock-out ratio is 70%. Of his 3 loses, he's been stopped 1 time. He's boxed a total of 214 rounds, meaning his professional fights last 5.2 rounds on average.

Ryan Garcia is really a heavy hitter but looking at his opponent I think this is a match that can go to anyone.  It is a matter of who kisses the canvass first.  So I think Ryan Garcia need to be very careful here to not blemish his perfect record.

[1] https://champinon.info/boxing/javier-fortuna/

Nice find serjent05 those punches were really amazing if this kid hits you, his opponent is done for, with the fast pace and punching power like that he can surely shore great heights in his career, and at his age, there is still a lot of improvement for this kid, I surely just wish he wouldn't eventually gas out during the fight with Javier Fortuna if the fight goes the distance, but apparently, his fight with Emmanuel Tagoe has gone the distance and pretty much Garcia is ok with it, the fact that Emmanuel Tagoe was always running around have brought the fight to Unnanimous decision,

[mirakal]

I am not certain how the boxing experts like in the forum assess Beterbiev, however, considering only the skills, should he be included in the top 10 pound for pound best boxers? He should be included, I reckon. What is your assessment, @Boafeng?

For sure, he should at least crack the top 10 by now, but let's see how those boxing analyst will put Arthur on their next listing.

And speaking of Beterviev, his fight with Smith is not PPV, but interesting numbers:

The June 18 edition of Top Rank Boxing on ESPN fired on all cylinders, including a main event where an average of 912,000 viewers tuned in for Beterbiev’s second-round, technical knockout of Joe Smith Jr. Beterbiev defended his unified lineal/WBC/IBF light heavyweight championship while violently snatching Smith’s WBO title in Saturday’s headliner at Madison Square Garden’s Hulu Theater in New York City.

https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-smith-main-event-drew-average-audience-912000-viewers-on-espn--167128

So I guess that's a good numbers for that fight. Maybe Beterviev's next will surely headline a PPV event. Maybe Arum is just testing the waters for this one. ESPN and Top Rank should consider him as a good PPV fighters now.

Who will be next for Beterbiev? If I was the promoter it should be against Dmitry Bivol for the undisputed light heavyweight championship. All fans of all types of sport will watch it, it will create millions in profit for the fighters, the sponsors and the promoters. However, I am quite certain this will not happen hehe. I am not certain why boxing promoters are like this. It might only be organized when they are old, very much similar to Amir Khan vs. Kell Brook or Mayweather vs. Pacman.

Rumors has it that will be Yarde first. It could be a fight that could go on PPV and it's good though. And just like what others said, UK fans love their local boxer so for sure this will be a sold out fight if they chooses Yarde's hometown.

So we might have to wait for maybe next year for the undisputed fight to happen between Bivol and Beterviev. So yeah, Beterviev will be like 38 years old next year, and Bivol still on his prime, just saying. Maybe we will factor that out once they fight.

Yes, rumors has it that Artur Beterbiev will face Yarde first for a title defense possible after the Canelo-GGG trilogy and it's possible that an undisputed fight in light-heavyweight will happen next year, 2023. Bob Arum will milk first the remaining challenger in the said weightclass before he gives a go signal to his boy to go against Bivol for an undisputed fight, we know the Bob and that's the nearest scenario I can think of.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/6/23/23179727/artur-beterbiev-vs-anthony-yarde-will-be-next-bivol-fight-possible-early-2023-arum-boxing-news-2022

[stadus]

Floyd Mayweather vs Mikuru Asakura in Japan.

It was reported that Floyd will have another exhibition in Japan under Rizin in September. We are very familiar that Floyd started his whole exhibitions matches.

And for those who haven't heard the news, Floyd was inducted to the Boxing Hall of Fame, together with a lot of boxers.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/34081958/emotional-floyd-mayweather-jr-calls-international-boxing-hall-fame-induction-career-highlight

Wow! That was fast, he was just fighting Don Moore last month and now he have another exhibition fight, Floyd Mayweather surely knows how to keep his brand known and doing business anywhere in the world for more money. Though I'm not that sure that he started this whole exhibition matches, I know there some matches like these in the late 19th century but in 20th century, many have gone to exhibition matches after they retired, it's just that Mayweather is the remaining person who is capable to sell these fights now.

Right, Floyd can't resist the money for sure, that's why he will be back with his exhition matches again to where he started it all, in Japan. I'm still baffled as to how Rizin can afford Floyd, maybe the first exhibition really gave them a big boost as far as business again as it was reported that Rizin is losing a lot of money as a promotional company. Nevertheless, having this fight again means they still have the big money to offer to Floyd and in return they will also rake profits. I thought though that Floyd vs Manny is being work out.

Wait a minute, when you say Manny, do you mean Pacquiao? because if that is the case my interest will increase a lot, because the truth is I don't like the style that Mayweather has, the truth is I'm still disappointed in what he showed in his fight against him, where they agreed not to give any rematch, for me Mayweather is a boxer who He is only interested in fucking money before anything else, for this reason when it comes to exhibition fights they do not attract much attention to me, because it is not the same interest as a fight with all the law, but in an eventual fight of exhibition against Pacquiao if I would like to see it, maybe I haven't seen much news regarding boxing lately because football has me hooked.

Yes mate, that's Manny Pacquiao. There's this rumor that both camps are in the talks regarding an exhibition fight between the two of them especially Manny as he's now free from politics after he was lost in the presidential race. I don't exactly know why their rematch didn't happen when it's clear that people wanted a rematch and money is already on the table for the two of them but suddenly they decided that a rematch is not possible anymore despite having some beefs with each other.

[freedomgo]

Well, you got some points there. Some are also dreamt of getting famous being a boxing star and some have been successful enough but nowhere near Donaire and Pacquiao's legacy and some are also not that lucky to achieve their dream because it's easy to dream of it but it's hard to be one of those real boxers which we know today because only few really born to be a boxer in the industry.

Manny Pacquiao had a brother named Bobby Pacquiao who is also a professional boxer but the latter had to retire much earlier way back 2008 because his losses are almost coming close to his winnings and he's not getting some main event fight just like Manny had. That's probably one of the good examples that boxing is not for everyone even if boxing is one of those ways to escape poverty.

Yes Technically not all are born to be natural there are some that are gifted but they still need to have experience with that sports to be good at it, not all can achieve the greatness of a Manny Pacquaio, Nonito Donaire, in boxing without the given talent, I also think that if your goals in life were just to make money and the passion was not there in what you do, you will not be successful at all, I think that is some mistakes on some boxers here in the Phillippines that are just wishing to be rich with boxing but doesn't have the drive or the passion to do it,

And Bobby Pacquiao's case he surely had enough when he realized that there are now many losses than winning on his record, I think he lost the drive-in pursuit because boxing is not just meant Physically but Mentally aswell,

Exactly! It's easy to dream and have some goals to make money but if we're not capable on doing it as well as we have no passion then that goal is impossible to attain. Just like in boxing, many boxers who dreamt to carve their name but only few are choosen to do it.

As for Bobby Pacquiao, well, he tried but he can't exactly match his brothers talent in boxing so he gave it up and support Manny on his road to greatness. That's already good for the both of them because Manny had remained to carve their last name in the industry.

[Baofeng]

I am not certain how the boxing experts like in the forum assess Beterbiev, however, considering only the skills, should he be included in the top 10 pound for pound best boxers? He should be included, I reckon. What is your assessment, @Boafeng?

For sure, he should at least crack the top 10 by now, but let's see how those boxing analyst will put Arthur on their next listing.

And speaking of Beterviev, his fight with Smith is not PPV, but interesting numbers:

The June 18 edition of Top Rank Boxing on ESPN fired on all cylinders, including a main event where an average of 912,000 viewers tuned in for Beterbiev’s second-round, technical knockout of Joe Smith Jr. Beterbiev defended his unified lineal/WBC/IBF light heavyweight championship while violently snatching Smith’s WBO title in Saturday’s headliner at Madison Square Garden’s Hulu Theater in New York City.

https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-smith-main-event-drew-average-audience-912000-viewers-on-espn--167128

So I guess that's a good numbers for that fight. Maybe Beterviev's next will surely headline a PPV event. Maybe Arum is just testing the waters for this one. ESPN and Top Rank should consider him as a good PPV fighters now.

Who will be next for Beterbiev? If I was the promoter it should be against Dmitry Bivol for the undisputed light heavyweight championship. All fans of all types of sport will watch it, it will create millions in profit for the fighters, the sponsors and the promoters. However, I am quite certain this will not happen hehe. I am not certain why boxing promoters are like this. It might only be organized when they are old, very much similar to Amir Khan vs. Kell Brook or Mayweather vs. Pacman.

Rumors has it that will be Yarde first. It could be a fight that could go on PPV and it's good though. And just like what others said, UK fans love their local boxer so for sure this will be a sold out fight if they chooses Yarde's hometown.

So we might have to wait for maybe next year for the undisputed fight to happen between Bivol and Beterviev. So yeah, Beterviev will be like 38 years old next year, and Bivol still on his prime, just saying. Maybe we will factor that out once they fight.

Yes, rumors has it that Artur Beterbiev will face Yarde first for a title defense possible after the Canelo-GGG trilogy and it's possible that an undisputed fight in light-heavyweight will happen next year, 2023. Bob Arum will milk first the remaining challenger in the said weightclass before he gives a go signal to his boy to go against Bivol for an undisputed fight, we know the Bob and that's the nearest scenario I can think of.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/6/23/23179727/artur-beterbiev-vs-anthony-yarde-will-be-next-bivol-fight-possible-early-2023-arum-boxing-news-2022

Yes, this has been in the works already, Yarde as the mandatory and then the fight being in O2 arena, that will be huge fight specially for Yarde. And since Beterviev is not damage on his last fight with Smith, they can set this up right now, October is being the target date.

And then the winner getting Bivol, so definitely we want to have a scenario wherein two of the best in LHW will fight for unification, Beterviev and Bivol. Hopefully, Yarde won't cause any upset.

[YuginKadoya]

Exactly! It's easy to dream and have some goals to make money but if we're not capable on doing it as well as we have no passion then that goal is impossible to attain. Just like in boxing, many boxers who dreamt to carve their name but only few are choosen to do it.

As for Bobby Pacquiao, well, he tried but he can't exactly match his brothers talent in boxing so he gave it up and support Manny on his road to greatness. That's already good for the both of them because Manny had remained to carve their last name in the industry.

I really think it is also up to a person's mindset if he likes to pursue his dream if he had the passion to do it, then he will definitely Succeed, but if that spark would go just because of a 1 record lost then he or she doesn't have a mind to pursue, but a fragile mind that will eventually falter, Manny and Bobby might be brothers but they don't share the same mindset and the urge in really doing boxing, the same goes with John Riel Casimero's brother Jayson Casimero, John Riel Casimero have a solid will to pursue his goals in life while his brother didn't pursue much but had the experience in fighting in the ring, well, we all can become boxers but pretty much not all can attain the determination of well-known boxers now,

Yes, this has been in the works already, Yarde as the mandatory and then the fight being in O2 arena, that will be huge fight specially for Yarde. And since Beterviev is not damage on his last fight with Smith, they can set this up right now, October is being the target date.

And then the winner getting Bivol, so definitely we want to have a scenario wherein two of the best in LHW will fight for unification, Beterviev and Bivol. Hopefully, Yarde won't cause any upset.

If this fight goes through I think it will be next year, but early in 2023, and this could be another test for Artur Beterbiev before he can face Dmitry Bivol, but I think Beterbiev is perfectly ready for Bivol, Anthony Yarde is just a stumbling block for him to go straight to Bivol I think this fight is not necessary they are just delaying the fight well I don't know they might want Beterbiev to age well for further weakening him but I am still going for Artur Beterbiev whatever happens,

[Ziskinberg]

As for Bobby Pacquiao, well, he tried but he can't exactly match his brothers talent in boxing so he gave it up and support Manny on his road to greatness. That's already good for the both of them because Manny had remained to carve their last name in the industry.

There's only one great fighter in a family, so Bobby has to support his brother, and I think he already enters the politics too so he has found his place with the use of their money. Influence is what Pacman was able to achieve from his success in boxing, so even if he already retired in boxing, he is still very successful with his business and with the politics.

[freedomgo]

I am not certain how the boxing experts like in the forum assess Beterbiev, however, considering only the skills, should he be included in the top 10 pound for pound best boxers? He should be included, I reckon. What is your assessment, @Boafeng?

For sure, he should at least crack the top 10 by now, but let's see how those boxing analyst will put Arthur on their next listing.

And speaking of Beterviev, his fight with Smith is not PPV, but interesting numbers:

The June 18 edition of Top Rank Boxing on ESPN fired on all cylinders, including a main event where an average of 912,000 viewers tuned in for Beterbiev’s second-round, technical knockout of Joe Smith Jr. Beterbiev defended his unified lineal/WBC/IBF light heavyweight championship while violently snatching Smith’s WBO title in Saturday’s headliner at Madison Square Garden’s Hulu Theater in New York City.

https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-smith-main-event-drew-average-audience-912000-viewers-on-espn--167128

So I guess that's a good numbers for that fight. Maybe Beterviev's next will surely headline a PPV event. Maybe Arum is just testing the waters for this one. ESPN and Top Rank should consider him as a good PPV fighters now.

Who will be next for Beterbiev? If I was the promoter it should be against Dmitry Bivol for the undisputed light heavyweight championship. All fans of all types of sport will watch it, it will create millions in profit for the fighters, the sponsors and the promoters. However, I am quite certain this will not happen hehe. I am not certain why boxing promoters are like this. It might only be organized when they are old, very much similar to Amir Khan vs. Kell Brook or Mayweather vs. Pacman.

Rumors has it that will be Yarde first. It could be a fight that could go on PPV and it's good though. And just like what others said, UK fans love their local boxer so for sure this will be a sold out fight if they chooses Yarde's hometown.

So we might have to wait for maybe next year for the undisputed fight to happen between Bivol and Beterviev. So yeah, Beterviev will be like 38 years old next year, and Bivol still on his prime, just saying. Maybe we will factor that out once they fight.

Yes, rumors has it that Artur Beterbiev will face Yarde first for a title defense possible after the Canelo-GGG trilogy and it's possible that an undisputed fight in light-heavyweight will happen next year, 2023. Bob Arum will milk first the remaining challenger in the said weightclass before he gives a go signal to his boy to go against Bivol for an undisputed fight, we know the Bob and that's the nearest scenario I can think of.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/6/23/23179727/artur-beterbiev-vs-anthony-yarde-will-be-next-bivol-fight-possible-early-2023-arum-boxing-news-2022

Yes, this has been in the works already, Yarde as the mandatory and then the fight being in O2 arena, that will be huge fight specially for Yarde. And since Beterviev is not damage on his last fight with Smith, they can set this up right now, October is being the target date.

And then the winner getting Bivol, so definitely we want to have a scenario wherein two of the best in LHW will fight for unification, Beterviev and Bivol. Hopefully, Yarde won't cause any upset.

Oh really? That's good.  O2 arena is located in London, right? I believe that place will be full packed again as the English people are really fond and excited whenever they know that one of their best boxers are having a title fight. The venue will exactly produce good revenues for the both camps especially Bob Arum. Next up, Dmitrii Bivol next year.

[Jating]

Maybe Beterbiev travelling to England to defend his 3 belts against their own hero Anthony Yarde is financially big. But I like Artur Beterbiev to pressure and convince Arum/ESPN to let him unify with the last remaining belt held by Dmitry Bivol. Beterbiev better not waste his time against these beltless contenders if he wants to leave a legacy in the Hall of Fame. Or maybe he can fight the beatable WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. A victory would make Beterbiev a 2 division champion and might be enough to enter the Hall of Fame.

Or is Arum (ESPN) scared that his aging champion might lose to a technical fighter like Bivol?

I read that Beterviev will be defending his belt against Yarde. And this could be the 'safest' route for Arthur, or shall we shall Bob Arum. Although he mentioned that he is also interested on a Bivol match to unify, knowing Arum, he might not allow him to do that. And instead, have him face the mandatory challenger first and create more aura of invincibility of Beterviev so that hey can make a lot of money if ever they will decide and have a unification fight with Bivol.

That's good if that is the plan because we will still see that fight. Bob sometimes does not want to risk his fighter if he thinks the opponent is also good to beat his fighter, so there's a possibility that the anticipated fight will not happen. Some boxers did not renew did contract with Top Rank and were able to get big fights, fights that they love to happen when they are still under his promotion.

Yes, this is a well orchestrated plan by Arum again, sort of manipulating the LHW because he has all the cards and it seems that he wants to stick it out with DAZN. Arum is a pure old school so he will go to ESPN but then again as mentioned, Beterviev is not PPV yet. Boxers like Crawford recently separated from Top Rank because they want to handle their career and doesn't want how Top Rank handle them (not getting the fights they wanted and the money.)

[Kemarit]

I am not certain how the boxing experts like in the forum assess Beterbiev, however, considering only the skills, should he be included in the top 10 pound for pound best boxers? He should be included, I reckon. What is your assessment, @Boafeng?

For sure, he should at least crack the top 10 by now, but let's see how those boxing analyst will put Arthur on their next listing.

And speaking of Beterviev, his fight with Smith is not PPV, but interesting numbers:

The June 18 edition of Top Rank Boxing on ESPN fired on all cylinders, including a main event where an average of 912,000 viewers tuned in for Beterbiev’s second-round, technical knockout of Joe Smith Jr. Beterbiev defended his unified lineal/WBC/IBF light heavyweight championship while violently snatching Smith’s WBO title in Saturday’s headliner at Madison Square Garden’s Hulu Theater in New York City.

https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-smith-main-event-drew-average-audience-912000-viewers-on-espn--167128

So I guess that's a good numbers for that fight. Maybe Beterviev's next will surely headline a PPV event. Maybe Arum is just testing the waters for this one. ESPN and Top Rank should consider him as a good PPV fighters now.

Who will be next for Beterbiev? If I was the promoter it should be against Dmitry Bivol for the undisputed light heavyweight championship. All fans of all types of sport will watch it, it will create millions in profit for the fighters, the sponsors and the promoters. However, I am quite certain this will not happen hehe. I am not certain why boxing promoters are like this. It might only be organized when they are old, very much similar to Amir Khan vs. Kell Brook or Mayweather vs. Pacman.

Rumors has it that will be Yarde first. It could be a fight that could go on PPV and it's good though. And just like what others said, UK fans love their local boxer so for sure this will be a sold out fight if they chooses Yarde's hometown.

So we might have to wait for maybe next year for the undisputed fight to happen between Bivol and Beterviev. So yeah, Beterviev will be like 38 years old next year, and Bivol still on his prime, just saying. Maybe we will factor that out once they fight.

Yes, rumors has it that Artur Beterbiev will face Yarde first for a title defense possible after the Canelo-GGG trilogy and it's possible that an undisputed fight in light-heavyweight will happen next year, 2023. Bob Arum will milk first the remaining challenger in the said weightclass before he gives a go signal to his boy to go against Bivol for an undisputed fight, we know the Bob and that's the nearest scenario I can think of.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/6/23/23179727/artur-beterbiev-vs-anthony-yarde-will-be-next-bivol-fight-possible-early-2023-arum-boxing-news-2022

Yes, this has been in the works already, Yarde as the mandatory and then the fight being in O2 arena, that will be huge fight specially for Yarde. And since Beterviev is not damage on his last fight with Smith, they can set this up right now, October is being the target date.

And then the winner getting Bivol, so definitely we want to have a scenario wherein two of the best in LHW will fight for unification, Beterviev and Bivol. Hopefully, Yarde won't cause any upset.

Oh really? That's good.  O2 arena is located in London, right? I believe that place will be full packed again as the English people are really fond and excited whenever they know that one of their best boxers are having a title fight. The venue will exactly produce good revenues for the both camps especially Bob Arum. Next up, Dmitrii Bivol next year.

The famous O2 arena and if I'm not mistaken, capacity is huge so good choice of venue for this big fight. And that is true, English love their boxers, recently Tyson Fury. And even if Yarde is not that famous like Tyson, for sure they will all come and watch him fight just for the support and of course they want them to upset Beterviev. Of course, Arum knows how big the money is going to be in this fight so him and Warren are going to talk without any issues. (greedy promoters).