Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[paxmao]

The intensity of the fight in Donetsk is at maximum. This is WW I in terms of the masses sent to assault strong positions. Even if Russia makes a tactical advance, the cost in lives will have long term consequences for Adolf Putin's army. The next week is very important in terms of territory, but even as of now it is clear that the price to pay to achieve any military advance in Ukraine is unsustainable for the Russian Pyschos.

Sievierdonetsk is going to be an ugly fight. In the case of Mariupol, the Ukrainian army could not help. On this case, depending on how things roll-out, the number of losses in both side may been higher that ever seen in many decades.

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[DaRude]

Come up with something new, asshole.

Here,how about this one? More nazi collaborators listed for "hero" status. If you proudly and shamelessly embrace their legacy without any care about what they did to Jews and other ethnic minorities then that makes you a NAZI sympathiser by default. Are you a NAZI sympathiser light_warrior ? I myself am Jewish and want my tax money and donations spent to help peaceful refugees and provide medical assistance but not to aid and abet anyone who makes light of the fact these "heroes" slaughtered our people and many others. Also stop using the typical russian sympathiser slur against anyone who dares question your "heroes" war criminal past crimes as it only makes you look like a thug and we already know there are plenty of thugs on BOTH sides of this conflict. Thugs never apologise or show remorse for what they do or have done. Thugs have no place in a civilised world.

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2021/08/04/controversy-as-ukraine-mulls-giving-hero-status-to-alleged-war-criminals

WTF did i just read? Ukraine literally proposes to call heroes and make stamps and coins for people who they openly agree had committed atrocities? That's some new level of tolerance

Seventy-eight Ukrainian lawmakers from all sides of the parliament have proposed to give the title ‘Hero of Ukraine’ to controversial figures such as Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych.
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The proposal also asks the Ukrainian Parliament and the country’s president Volodymyr Zelenskyy to commemorate the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, UPA, operating from the 1940s and into the 1950s, on their 80th anniversary in October next year.
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he is not arguing against the atrocities committed by members of the UPA towards Jews and Poles. However, he argues that Bandera should be remembered for his fight for independence.

“They are controversial; I agree with that,” Yurash says, “(But) they said that we don’t want to be a puppet or an instrument. We want to be an independent state. The story here should be remembered, but we should also not forget all the problems. However, their goal was very clear - an independent Ukraine. And it is worthy of giving stamps and coins for.”

Yurash says that it should be made clear that Bandera and the UPA aren’t receiving the honour due to the atrocities committed but for their role in the Ukrainian fight for independence.
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“I do not disagree that we should remember, examine and acceptably apologise for horrible deeds done, but so did the other side.
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“He is one of the people who defended Ukraine’s freedom,” Zelenskyy said in 2019.

“He is a hero for a certain percentage of Ukrainians, and it’s normal, and it’s cool.”

So the controversy doesn't stem from whether they're nazi collaborators who massacred 100.000 innocent people including women and children, oh no everyone acknowledges and is totally cool with that, the controversy is whether fighting for Ukraine is not just enough to offset all the committed atrocities but enough to even make them heroes
I could possibly see how someone who might believe that they innocent, could think of them as heroes, but acknowledging the atrocities and still make them heroes is just monstrous. I mean sure Hitler is responsible for all the killings, but he did it in the name of his nation and aryan race, so how about making him a hero too (just need to stress that it's not for the genocide part but for caring about his nation).

It's like this US Customs and Border Protection bulletin

“Ukrainian nationalist groups including the Azo[v] Movement are actively recruiting racially or ethnically motivated violent extremist-white supremacists (RMVE-WS) to join various neo-Nazi volunteer battalions in the war against Russia,” the report said.

In a recent Washington Post interview, the head of the battalion, Andriy Biletskiy, said the group “completely” rejects Nazism. The Post noted that he has been quoted previously making white supremacist statements, and now denies having made those comments. The article quoted Bellingcat’s Michael Colborne, who has written a book on the battalion, saying that “there are clearly neo-Nazis” within the Azov movement’s ranks.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/24/american-fighters-ukraine-white-supremacists-00034860

US is concerned about those neo-nazis coming back with war experience, but the best part is the counter argument, it's not that they're denying it, as much as everyone should just stop talking about this because it helps Putin!


Edit:

To those supporting the war, to those who have friends joining the army, to their families and relatives: Make an informed decision when you sign in:

https://youtu.be/5OQbIEKbZyc

The war is senseless, the leadership cares little for the foot soldier and Russia is not at risk. Joining the Russian army is not easy money nor a way of life, it is a way of death.

I don't know how many people you believe read the English Politics section of the bitcoin forum before heading out to fight in Ukraine, but you might want to dial down your propaganda, you seem to have it set at 11

[suchmoon]

I mean sure Hitler is responsible for all the killings, but he did it in the name of his nation and aryan race, so how about making him a hero too (just need to stress that it's not for the genocide part but for caring about his nation).

You have an unhealthy obsession with Hitler.

Here is what Ukrainians were up against besides Hitler:

The Holodomor [...] as a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932 to 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians.

[...]

While scholars universally agree that the cause of the famine was man-made, whether or not the Holodomor constitutes a genocide remains in dispute. Some historians conclude that the famine was planned and exacerbated by Joseph Stalin to eliminate a Ukrainian independence movement.

The Vinnytsia massacre was the mass execution of between 9,000 and 11,000 people in the Ukrainian town of Vinnytsia by the Soviet secret police NKVD during the Great Purge or Yezhovshchina in 1937–1938

The Bykivnia graves [...] was one of the unmarked mass grave sites where the NKVD, the Soviet secret police, disposed of thousands of executed "enemies of the Soviet state".

The number of dead bodies buried there is estimated between "dozens of thousand," to 30,000, to 100,000 though some estimates place the number as high as 200,000.

From the early 1920s until late 1940s throughout the Stalinist purges, the Soviet government hauled the bodies of tortured and killed political prisoners to the pine forests outside the village of Bykivnia and buried them in a grave that spanned 15,000 square metres (160,000 sq ft). So far, 210 separate mass graves have been identified by Polish and Ukrainian archaeologists working at the site.

The NKVD prisoner massacres were a series of mass executions of political prisoners carried out by the NKVD, the People's Commissariat for Internal Affairs of the Soviet Union, across Eastern Europe, primarily Poland, Ukraine, the Baltic states, and Bessarabia. After the start of the German invasion of the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, the NKVD troops were supposed to evacuate political prisoners into the interior of the Soviet Union, but the hasty retreat of the Red Army, the lack of transportation and other supplies and the general disregard for legal procedures often meant that the prisoners were executed.

Estimates of the death toll vary between locations; nearly 9,000 in the Ukrainian SSR, 20,000–30,000 in eastern Poland (now part of Western Ukraine), with the total number reaching approximately 100,000 victims of extrajudicial executions in the span of a few weeks.

Sounds eerily familiar these days.

Fun fact: Russia's glorious forever-president is a former officer of the KGB (the agency was known as NKVD at the time when the above atrocities were committed). But that's probably just a coincidence, nothing to do with him being a genocidal psychopath like the decades-worth of other NKVD/KGB agents.

might want to dial down your propaganda, you seem to have it set at 11

Gotta love Putin's copypasta boys accusing others of "propaganda".

[be.open]

Red Estuary is taken.

It looks like the eastern front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass has crumbled.

[Tash]

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I'm worried about you Tash.

No need to unnecessary worry.
Account will be retired in June, travel dates/planes in place and as they say "moving on to bigger better things"

[paxmao]

Red Estuary is taken.

It looks like the eastern front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass has crumbled.

You mean crumbled as in "the Ukrainians are still fighting but do not have enough sausages supplies?". Stop faking news while you fellow Russian die by the hundreds for a ridiculous snail-like advance. Adolf Putin is sending all the cannon fodder he has and still managing to get most of it meat-grinded.

https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/26-may-russian-troops-conducting-offensive-towards-komyshuvakha

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I'm worried about you Tash.

No need to unnecessary worry.
Account will be retired in June, travel dates/planes in place and as they say "moving on to bigger better things"

I do not advise you to go into anything bigger or better than what you are doing now. You are clearly at the limit of your abilities.

[Branko]

Funny vote among nazis in Ukraine:




Whole article:

https://telegra.ph/NATIONALISM-FOR-EXPORT-05-19

[DaRude]

I mean sure Hitler is responsible for all the killings, but he did it in the name of his nation and aryan race, so how about making him a hero too (just need to stress that it's not for the genocide part but for caring about his nation).

You have an unhealthy obsession with Hitler.

Here is what Ukrainians were up against besides Hitler:

The Holodomor [...] as a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932 to 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians.

[...]

While scholars universally agree that the cause of the famine was man-made, whether or not the Holodomor constitutes a genocide remains in dispute. Some historians conclude that the famine was planned and exacerbated by Joseph Stalin to eliminate a Ukrainian independence movement.

The Vinnytsia massacre was the mass execution of between 9,000 and 11,000 people in the Ukrainian town of Vinnytsia by the Soviet secret police NKVD during the Great Purge or Yezhovshchina in 1937–1938

The Bykivnia graves [...] was one of the unmarked mass grave sites where the NKVD, the Soviet secret police, disposed of thousands of executed "enemies of the Soviet state".

The number of dead bodies buried there is estimated between "dozens of thousand," to 30,000, to 100,000 though some estimates place the number as high as 200,000.

From the early 1920s until late 1940s throughout the Stalinist purges, the Soviet government hauled the bodies of tortured and killed political prisoners to the pine forests outside the village of Bykivnia and buried them in a grave that spanned 15,000 square metres (160,000 sq ft). So far, 210 separate mass graves have been identified by Polish and Ukrainian archaeologists working at the site.

The NKVD prisoner massacres were a series of mass executions of political prisoners carried out by the NKVD, the People's Commissariat for Internal Affairs of the Soviet Union, across Eastern Europe, primarily Poland, Ukraine, the Baltic states, and Bessarabia. After the start of the German invasion of the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, the NKVD troops were supposed to evacuate political prisoners into the interior of the Soviet Union, but the hasty retreat of the Red Army, the lack of transportation and other supplies and the general disregard for legal procedures often meant that the prisoners were executed.

Estimates of the death toll vary between locations; nearly 9,000 in the Ukrainian SSR, 20,000–30,000 in eastern Poland (now part of Western Ukraine), with the total number reaching approximately 100,000 victims of extrajudicial executions in the span of a few weeks.

Sounds eerily familiar these days.

Fun fact: Russia's glorious forever-president is a former officer of the KGB (the agency was known as NKVD at the time when the above atrocities were committed). But that's probably just a coincidence, nothing to do with him being a genocidal psychopath like the decades-worth of other NKVD/KGB agents.

might want to dial down your propaganda, you seem to have it set at 11

Gotta love Putin's copypasta boys accusing others of "propaganda".

I wrote up how Ukrainians are well aware of the atrocities of their so called "heroes" and how despite knowing all that they still stand by them and want to commemorate them on coins/stamps/monuments/streets (but you know only for the good parts that they did not the murdering of innocent children part) and your best reply is, but what about Stalin in 1933? Even if your Stalin's claim were true, how on green earth do you feel that this in any way justifies worshiping open nazi collaborators who murdered innocent people in the name of ethnic cleansing in 2022?

[suchmoon]

Even if your Stalin's claim were true

Not really "claims". Historic facts. There is a lot more - mass deportations etc. You're not gonna start denying all that, are you?

how on green earth do you feel that this in any way justifies worshiping open nazi collaborators who murdered innocent people in the name of ethnic cleansing in 2022?

I never said such a thing but don't let that stop you from making more shit up.

[af_newbie]

I mean sure Hitler is responsible for all the killings, but he did it in the name of his nation and aryan race, so how about making him a hero too (just need to stress that it's not for the genocide part but for caring about his nation).

You have an unhealthy obsession with Hitler.

Here is what Ukrainians were up against besides Hitler:

The Holodomor [...] as a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932 to 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians.

[...]

While scholars universally agree that the cause of the famine was man-made, whether or not the Holodomor constitutes a genocide remains in dispute. Some historians conclude that the famine was planned and exacerbated by Joseph Stalin to eliminate a Ukrainian independence movement.

The Vinnytsia massacre was the mass execution of between 9,000 and 11,000 people in the Ukrainian town of Vinnytsia by the Soviet secret police NKVD during the Great Purge or Yezhovshchina in 1937–1938

The Bykivnia graves [...] was one of the unmarked mass grave sites where the NKVD, the Soviet secret police, disposed of thousands of executed "enemies of the Soviet state".

The number of dead bodies buried there is estimated between "dozens of thousand," to 30,000, to 100,000 though some estimates place the number as high as 200,000.

From the early 1920s until late 1940s throughout the Stalinist purges, the Soviet government hauled the bodies of tortured and killed political prisoners to the pine forests outside the village of Bykivnia and buried them in a grave that spanned 15,000 square metres (160,000 sq ft). So far, 210 separate mass graves have been identified by Polish and Ukrainian archaeologists working at the site.

The NKVD prisoner massacres were a series of mass executions of political prisoners carried out by the NKVD, the People's Commissariat for Internal Affairs of the Soviet Union, across Eastern Europe, primarily Poland, Ukraine, the Baltic states, and Bessarabia. After the start of the German invasion of the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, the NKVD troops were supposed to evacuate political prisoners into the interior of the Soviet Union, but the hasty retreat of the Red Army, the lack of transportation and other supplies and the general disregard for legal procedures often meant that the prisoners were executed.

Estimates of the death toll vary between locations; nearly 9,000 in the Ukrainian SSR, 20,000–30,000 in eastern Poland (now part of Western Ukraine), with the total number reaching approximately 100,000 victims of extrajudicial executions in the span of a few weeks.

Sounds eerily familiar these days.

Fun fact: Russia's glorious forever-president is a former officer of the KGB (the agency was known as NKVD at the time when the above atrocities were committed). But that's probably just a coincidence, nothing to do with him being a genocidal psychopath like the decades-worth of other NKVD/KGB agents.

might want to dial down your propaganda, you seem to have it set at 11

Gotta love Putin's copypasta boys accusing others of "propaganda".

I wrote up how Ukrainians are well aware of the atrocities of their so called "heroes" and how despite knowing all that they still stand by them and want to commemorate them on coins/stamps/monuments/streets (but you know only for the good parts that they did not the murdering of innocent children part) and your best reply is, but what about Stalin in 1933? Even if your Stalin's claim were true, how on green earth do you feel that this in any way justifies worshiping open nazi collaborators who murdered innocent people in the name of ethnic cleansing in 2022?

These 'Nazi collaborators' must be quite old. LOL.

Russian propaganda fried your frontal lobe.

[Tash]

Nazies again lost .... Klauswitz is done with no more anal Schwabs.
Ukraine's military collapse started
Ukraine Foreign Minister Admits He Has NOW Been Told to "Negotiate" with Russia

Kuleba told to negotiate
https://seed132.bitchute.com/SaNUTh4l0COJ/tVHchXjIwtLo.mp4

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/ukraine-foreign-minister-admits-he-has-now-been-told-to-negotiate-with-russia

Nato military equipment what did not reach destination

[suchmoon]

Nato military equipment what did not reach destination

Here is the actual quote from the shitblog you got this from:

Overnight, a Ukraine military cargo plane was shot down near Odessa.   All of its western-supplied military weaponry was destroyed.   Here's the crash site:

(dated May 27)

Which to no one's surprise is bullshit. The photo is of a plane that crashed (empty) near Zaporizhzhia a month ago:

[Branko]

I wrote up how Ukrainians are well aware of the atrocities of their so called "heroes" and how despite knowing all that they still stand by them and want to commemorate them on coins/stamps/monuments/streets (but you know only for the good parts that they did not the murdering of innocent children part) and your best reply is, but what about Stalin in 1933? Even if your Stalin's claim were true, how on green earth do you feel that this in any way justifies worshiping open nazi collaborators who murdered innocent people in the name of ethnic cleansing in 2022?

Suchmoon is all about whataboutism

[Tash]

Oh no not the Washington post as well
https://archive.ph/xtFAL

[paxmao]

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Ukraine Foreign Minister Admits He Has NOW Been Told to "Negotiate" with Russia

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They have never stopped negotiating. You can also see the guidelines for the negotiation here:

https://thehill.com/news/3502032-zelensky-rips-kissinger-over-suggestion-ukraine-cede-territory-to-russia/

In a Wednesday address, Zelensky said Kissinger “emerges from the deep past and says that a piece of Ukraine should be given to Russia” and that Kissinger’s “calendar is not 2022, but 1938” — a reference to the Munich Agreement, which allowed for Nazi Germany to annex land in western Czechoslovakia.

“Behind all these geopolitical speculations of those who advise Ukraine to give away something to Russia, ‘great geopoliticians’ are always unwilling to see ordinary people,” Zelensky said. “Millions of those who actually live in the territory they propose to exchange for the illusion of peace. You must always see people.”

Negotiating with Russia does not bring peace, as simple as that. Adolf Putin only understands the language of threats and violence. He is no different from a patriarch of the rossíyskaya máfiya.

[icopress]

I'll just leave this here

• https://imgur.com/DcwSCg6

[tvbcof]

Oh no not the Washington post as well
https://archive.ph/xtFAL

I've seen a lot of indications that plenty of people all over Ukraine, including in the military and security services, would like Russia to 'win' and to be rid of the NAtoZI creeps that Nudelman-Kagan and the CIA put in in their color revolution 8 years ago.

One reason why AFU is getting so wrecked by Russia and DPR is probably that there are plenty of Ukrainians feeding them info, carefully sabotaging things, allowing the Jewkrainian 'leadership' to make mistakes, etc.  Probably the GRU knew this but mis-estimated how it would translate to the street level which could partially explain some of Russia's earlier miscalculations which were unnecessarily costly.  Correcting those mistakes ended up being a lot harder on infrastructure and civilian safety which is a shame.  That's water under the bridge however.

Here's another indication, and one which would indicate that the the navel forces are even less influenced by the inland Nazis and Jewkrainian 'leadership':

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/KW0w97yzkvY8/

Of course one has to keep in mind that the report is via Russian mainstream media, but outwardly it doesn't seem to be a clown-shoe 100% whole-cloth fabrication as is the norm for the Western mainstream press.

[af_newbie]

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Ukraine Foreign Minister Admits He Has NOW Been Told to "Negotiate" with Russia

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They have never stopped negotiating. You can also see the guidelines for the negotiation here:

https://thehill.com/news/3502032-zelensky-rips-kissinger-over-suggestion-ukraine-cede-territory-to-russia/

In a Wednesday address, Zelensky said Kissinger “emerges from the deep past and says that a piece of Ukraine should be given to Russia” and that Kissinger’s “calendar is not 2022, but 1938” — a reference to the Munich Agreement, which allowed for Nazi Germany to annex land in western Czechoslovakia.

“Behind all these geopolitical speculations of those who advise Ukraine to give away something to Russia, ‘great geopoliticians’ are always unwilling to see ordinary people,” Zelensky said. “Millions of those who actually live in the territory they propose to exchange for the illusion of peace. You must always see people.”

Negotiating with Russia does not bring peace, as simple as that. Adolf Putin only understands the language of threats and violence. He is no different from a patriarch of the rossíyskaya máfiya.

I wonder what Kissinger thinks will happen when Ukraine gives up her territories? Lasting peace?

Like after the 1994 Budapest memorandum, I bet.

It will be Minsk 4, followed by the 'genocide of Russians' in whatever is left of Ukraine and another special operation 2.0, then the same script will be played for Poland and Germany.  BTW, there is a large pro-Russian diaspora in Germany. It is ripe to harvest.

[paxmao]

I'll just leave this here

• https://imgur.com/DcwSCg6

Termite munition. "precision weaponry" of Adolf's Putin army.

[BADecker]

I'll just leave this here

• https://imgur.com/DcwSCg6

Termite munition. "precision weaponry" of Adolf's Putin army.

Termites are good eating - https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=are+termites+good+eating%3F&ia=web.