Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[be.open]

You are just getting to the ridiculous point of trying for this show to be somehow a "Western" failure?

So... one of your "generals" go rogue, takes a city, stops short of reaching Moscow, Putin flies to lastly having to say at the same time that all his men are pardoned and free to do whatever they want, then you say he is a criminal, but also thank your puppet Luka for giving allowing him to go away without having to hunt and judge the guy...

Is that the Eastern version of "being in control"? Because I am liking more the "Western" one here.

Look, Putin fucked up, "the West" is all right with it, no problem if it was or not known, it is just another RF clownlike failure and "the West" is only concern is having someone that is not nuts having the "button to end the world". Hint: Putin minimally qualifies.

I think that the relocation of Wagner to Belarus in the status of "fugitive rebels" is a very strong move by Russia in the proxy war with the West. Polish President Duda, confirming this idea, recently spoke in the style that "the relocation of Wagner PMC to Belarus is "negative" for Poland." Just imagine how much noise Wagner's unforced redeployment to Belarus would have made shortly after the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons there. And so everything seems to be fine, keep thinking that Putin fucked up.

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[paxmao]

You are just getting to the ridiculous point of trying for this show to be somehow a "Western" failure?

So... one of your "generals" go rogue, takes a city, stops short of reaching Moscow, Putin flies to lastly having to say at the same time that all his men are pardoned and free to do whatever they want, then you say he is a criminal, but also thank your puppet Luka for giving allowing him to go away without having to hunt and judge the guy...

Is that the Eastern version of "being in control"? Because I am liking more the "Western" one here.

Look, Putin fucked up, "the West" is all right with it, no problem if it was or not known, it is just another RF clownlike failure and "the West" is only concern is having someone that is not nuts having the "button to end the world". Hint: Putin minimally qualifies.

I think that the relocation of Wagner to Belarus in the status of "fugitive rebels" is a very strong move by Russia in the proxy war with the West. Polish President Duda, confirming this idea, recently spoke in the style that "the relocation of Wagner PMC to Belarus is "negative" for Poland." Just imagine how much noise Wagner's unforced redeployment to Belarus would have made shortly after the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons there. And so everything seems to be fine, keep thinking that Putin fucked up.

Tactical nukes in Belarus are not of more concern than the ones in Karelia. Relocating Wagner could have been done anyway without any of this. Putin did crap it by:

- Not being able to settle peacefully, quietly and quickly an internal dispute.
- Making it clear that his control is thin as a feather and his leadership as light.
- Actually sending quite good troops to a non-critical area hen they are most needed in the front.

So... yes, he did fuck up.

[swogerino]

You are just getting to the ridiculous point of trying for this show to be somehow a "Western" failure?

So... one of your "generals" go rogue, takes a city, stops short of reaching Moscow, Putin flies to lastly having to say at the same time that all his men are pardoned and free to do whatever they want, then you say he is a criminal, but also thank your puppet Luka for giving allowing him to go away without having to hunt and judge the guy...

Is that the Eastern version of "being in control"? Because I am liking more the "Western" one here.

Look, Putin fucked up, "the West" is all right with it, no problem if it was or not known, it is just another RF clownlike failure and "the West" is only concern is having someone that is not nuts having the "button to end the world". Hint: Putin minimally qualifies.

I think that the relocation of Wagner to Belarus in the status of "fugitive rebels" is a very strong move by Russia in the proxy war with the West. Polish President Duda, confirming this idea, recently spoke in the style that "the relocation of Wagner PMC to Belarus is "negative" for Poland." Just imagine how much noise Wagner's unforced redeployment to Belarus would have made shortly after the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons there. And so everything seems to be fine, keep thinking that Putin fucked up.

He absolutely f*cked up.He is happy to have avoided a real civil war as it was extremely near it,nevertheless the Wagner rebellion showed how easy one can take some tanks and enter Russia like there is nothing going on.Just some helicopters who were shot down by Wagner of course could not keep up with them and in fact Wagner has taken Bakhmut while Russian army have failed to do so,so losing a big support of mercenary soldiers will only unfold as a really bad move to Russia in general as they have already lost 1 or two new villages in these last couple of days.

[paxmao]

Wooops... Surovikin seems to have been arrested as being linked to the Wagner march to (near) Moscow. Quite interestingly someone has to pay for the shitstorm and this is the choosen one for the purpose. What a shame, he was quite incompetent and would have been the perfect (for Ukraine) general to take charge of the war of aggression in Ukraine.

Curious that when you are the weakest, you need to do this type of stuff.

[suchmoon]

Wooops... Surovikin seems to have been arrested as being linked to the Wagner march to (near) Moscow.

It's funny how the same z-nut "voyenkors" that just a few days ago were claiming Surovikin will replace Gerasimov now call him a traitor. The pseudo-coup really did a number on putinists, they don't know which lies to believe. Just look at be.open flailing here trying to make it sound like Lukashenko can threaten NATO... by throwing sacks of potatoes over the border wall into Poland I assume.

Meanwhile Putin (allegedly) is hugging people in Dagestan of all places, a bizarre departure from mile-long tables and week-long quarantines. Desperate for PR apparently.

[paxmao]

Wooops... Surovikin seems to have been arrested as being linked to the Wagner march to (near) Moscow.

It's funny how the same z-nut "voyenkors" that just a few days ago were claiming Surovikin will replace Gerasimov now call him a traitor. The pseudo-coup really did a number on putinists, they don't know which lies to believe. Just look at be.open flailing here trying to make it sound like Lukashenko can threaten NATO... by throwing sacks of potatoes over the border wall into Poland I assume.

Meanwhile Putin (allegedly) is hugging people in Dagestan of all places, a bizarre departure from mile-long tables and week-long quarantines. Desperate for PR apparently.

There is quite a bit of fog on Surovikin's location to be honest. My hope was that he took care of the war, as I trust his incompetence even more than the rest of the Psychos.

Anyway, I am here looking at the crystal ball seeing F-16 supporting a stronger attack in a months time, direction wise, could be from Kherson direction, however I dare not suppose that it cannot be in three fronts (Kherson, Zapo an donbas as it seems to be happening now). My personal choice would be Kherson as it is less expected and perhaps less defended.

Re deploying troops near Poland, oh... just give NATO a excuse ... pleeeeease

[BADecker]

The US is sneaky. They fight a war with failed economics. They fight it through other countries... this time Ukraine. Russia fights for real, right out in the open. Her strength hasn't been seen until now.


Putin Wins – on All Counts


https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/06/no_author/putin-wins-on-all-counts/
When the lightning of History strikes, better cut to the chase in our first draft.

Here we go.

After the extraordinary events in Russia during The Longest Day, President Putin wins on all counts.

Among other feats, he has made an absolute, inter-galactic ass of the whole collective West MSM – all over again.

He rallied virtually every Russian to end the Special Military Operation (SMO) – or "almost war" (according to some business circles) quicker.

He – and the FSB – amassed a formidable list of traitors and 5th and 6th columnists, which will be properly dealt with.

And he now enjoys unlimited freedom to deploy de facto Counter-Terrorist Operation (CTO) martial law powers.

As much as Putin helped perennial Lukashenko in August 2020, preventing regime change in Belarus, good ol' Luka prevented Russia from sliding into civil war in June 2023.

A complex wide-ranging counter-terror op is now in effect in Moscow and beyond, while assorted Western sub-zoology specimens are stunned, dazed and confused: wasn't that supposed to be Putin meeting his Czar Nicholas II moment?

A first glance at the chessboard tells us that all the pieces seem to be falling in their right places.

Prighozin gets a golden parachute in Belarus. Shoigu may be about to be sacked, perhaps even Gerasimov (yes, there are deeply dysfunctional layers inside the Ministry of Defense). The Wagner musicians will be incorporated as a regular Army Corps. They may keep doing business in Africa: demand is huge.
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[LTU_btc]

Wooops... Surovikin seems to have been arrested as being linked to the Wagner march to (near) Moscow. Quite interestingly someone has to pay for the shitstorm and this is the choosen one for the purpose. What a shame, he was quite incompetent and would have been the perfect (for Ukraine) general to take charge of the war of aggression in Ukraine.

Curious that when you are the weakest, you need to do this type of stuff.

Surovikin arrested might be another conspiracy theory, but it looks strange nobody didn't come with statement which would deny these rumours and he didn't appeared in public after mutiny.
It wouldn't be surprising if they will find him responsible for what happened last weekend. It would be strange if nobody will have to respond for it.

Meanwhile Putin (allegedly) is hugging people in Dagestan of all places, a bizarre departure from mile-long tables and week-long quarantines. Desperate for PR apparently.

We saw similar thing in Mariupol few months ago when Putin was shaking hands and talking with random people. Offcourse, it's possible that everything is staged - all these people were selected, checked and had to be in long lockdown before facing Putin. But these images makes version that Putin have clone look real.

[coolcoinz]

Meanwhile Putin (allegedly) is hugging people in Dagestan of all places, a bizarre departure from mile-long tables and week-long quarantines. Desperate for PR apparently.

It could be one of his doubles. He's got plenty of them, recently they were even in two places at once.
I think that real Putin is in his bunker. He'd be in that enormous residence if they haven't leaked its plans and the locations of underground tunnels leading to the beach.

[Branko]

Wooops... Surovikin seems to have been arrested as being linked to the Wagner march to (near) Moscow.

It's funny how the same z-nut "voyenkors" that just a few days ago were claiming Surovikin will replace Gerasimov now call him a traitor. The pseudo-coup really did a number on putinists, they don't know which lies to believe. Just look at be.open flailing here trying to make it sound like Lukashenko can threaten NATO... by throwing sacks of potatoes over the border wall into Poland I assume.

Meanwhile Putin (allegedly) is hugging people in Dagestan of all places, a bizarre departure from mile-long tables and week-long quarantines. Desperate for PR apparently.

Dagestan is Muslim...and they have their Holiday these days...but I would not expect you to know that, or anything

Surovikin arrested might be another conspiracy theory, but it looks strange nobody didn't come with statement which would deny these rumours and he didn't appeared in public after mutiny.
It wouldn't be surprising if they will find him responsible for what happened last weekend. It would be strange if nobody will have to respond for it.

His daughter denied it, but I would not expect your media to relay that info

Then again, even if he is arrested, it just means Putin-Prigozhin "coup" show served the purpose I outlined here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382794.msg62454125#msg62454125

[LTU_btc]

His daughter denied it, but I would not expect your media to relay that info

Then again, even if he is arrested, it just means Putin-Prigozhin "coup" show served the purpose I outlined here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382794.msg62454125#msg62454125

LOL, what is my media? You have no idea completely what media I follow. I saw his daughter words and it doesn't proves anything. Especially when journalists asked Peskov about Surovikin, he avoided straight answer.
Anyway, I'm not pushing version that he was detained like it would be happned fact. BTW, if I'm not mistaken, version about detained Surovikin started to spread on Russian Telegram channels, not on ''my media''.

[suchmoon]

Meanwhile Putin (allegedly) is hugging people in Dagestan of all places, a bizarre departure from mile-long tables and week-long quarantines. Desperate for PR apparently.

Dagestan is Muslim...and they have their Holiday these days...but I would not expect you to know that, or anything

How does that make them immune to whatever Putin is afraid of? Just recently he put "voeynkors" through quarantine before meeting with them.

[Branko]

Meanwhile Putin (allegedly) is hugging people in Dagestan of all places, a bizarre departure from mile-long tables and week-long quarantines. Desperate for PR apparently.

Dagestan is Muslim...and they have their Holiday these days...but I would not expect you to know that, or anything

How does that make them immune to whatever Putin is afraid of? Just recently he put "voeynkors" through quarantine before meeting with them.

That's your interpretation...mine is that he's not afraid of anything

[suchmoon]

Pseudo-coup fallout continues: Prigozhin's media empire, including the US-election-meddling troll factory and the infamous 15-ruble brigade, is being shut down. So now if any of these Kremlin copy-pasters show up here again we'll know for sure that they're bona fide deranged putinists. Speaking of which...

That's your interpretation...mine is that he's not afraid of anything

Not afraid but ran away from Moscow at the first sign of trouble. Glorious fearless leader. When parade in Bakhmut?

[Branko]

Not afraid but ran away from Moscow at the first sign of trouble. Glorious fearless leader. When parade in Bakhmut?

Funny how you're not ready to question anything

[paid2]

That's your interpretation...mine is that he's not afraid of anything

Isn't he afraid of anything? The only thing that is 100% sure, is that he's not ashamed of anything

He's afraid of so many things and of so many people. He's so frightened that he locks up anything that might contradict his primary rhetoric. Why so many people in jail if he is not afraid to hear something different than his own bullshits ?

Your Putler is scared by collectives of women singing in churches, so believe me, the list of things that scare him is endless.

The only thing he's not afraid of is dictatorial excesses. I've written it here before, and I insist, he's weak, and it's always the weak animals that are the most aggressive ones.

[swogerino]

His daughter denied it, but I would not expect your media to relay that info

Then again, even if he is arrested, it just means Putin-Prigozhin "coup" show served the purpose I outlined here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382794.msg62454125#msg62454125

LOL, what is my media? You have no idea completely what media I follow. I saw his daughter words and it doesn't proves anything. Especially when journalists asked Peskov about Surovikin, he avoided straight answer.
Anyway, I'm not pushing version that he was detained like it would be happned fact. BTW, if I'm not mistaken, version about detained Surovikin started to spread on Russian Telegram channels, not on ''my media''.

Of course we are not going to trust anything Russians say,they have made a name for themselves as the biggest liars in the world.Oh we don't hit civilians and they killed really young people in the attack on Kramatorsk when they hit RIA Pizzeria Lounge as of course they were a dangerous targets to Russia,people eating pizza minding their own business are a big threat to Russians so they got and killed very young people,that is a massive war crime that the Western media unfortunately is not doing as much as they should to emphasize these war crimes by Russia.

[suchmoon]

Not afraid but ran away from Moscow at the first sign of trouble. Glorious fearless leader. When parade in Bakhmut?

Funny how you're not ready to question anything

Among many other things, in this thread in particular I'm questioning your fearless leader's mental capacity, as evidenced by his inability to admit his fuckup and retreat from Ukraine to save Russian lives. I guess that's not good a question, not approved by politburo, amirite.

[paxmao]

Not afraid but ran away from Moscow at the first sign of trouble. Glorious fearless leader. When parade in Bakhmut?

Funny how you're not ready to question anything

Among many other things, in this thread in particular I'm questioning your fearless leader's mental capacity, as evidenced by his inability to admit his fuckup and retreat from Ukraine to save Russian lives. I guess that's not good a question, not approved by politburo, amirite.

Branko does not like questions. He already has all the answers. In his dictionary, Putin cannot be wrong. I mean, ever, in anything... all that happens in the world is a psy-op that us mortals do not see and cannot understand.

The fuckup of this war will go into the history books as such. Even if Ukraine ha to accept loosing territory (a big big if), Putin will have signed of for a second collapse of the USSR Russia by entering again the same cold war they already lost.

Yes Branko, the commies, you friends, lost massively. It is not a psy-op, they disappeared in the sands of history.

[BADecker]

Looks like the US is trying to get people to believe that up until now they knew that Russia wasn't going to use nukes... and that now they suspect Russia might use them. Russia has been telling us all along that when the US pushes far enough, they absolutely will use nukes.

Should people in the US prepare for nuclear war? Absolutely YES! But how do you do that? A simple start is, MOVE OUT OF THE BIG CITIES.


U.S. Moves "Constant Phoenix" Nuke-Sniffer Plane to Crete


https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/u-s-moves-constant-phoenix-nuke-sniffer-plane-to-crete
This plane's job is to sniff the atmosphere for proof of nuclear materials in the air. With all the talk in Ukraine about an attack coming against the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant, this plane's task is obvious - find reason to blame Russia.

The plane, shown on the Flight map above has arrived in the eastern Mediterranean, a short hop to Ukraine for what may be the excuse drummed-up by Ukraine, to get NATO directly involved in combat against Russia.
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