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Actually, it seems that Belarus is doing way better than Ukraine: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theglobaleconomy.com%2Fgraph_country.php%3Fp%3D0%26c%3DBelarus%26i%3DGDP_per_capita_current_dollars&t=665&c=tRUU2nTVgEnjIw)
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Actually, it seems that Belarus is doing way better than Ukraine: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theglobaleconomy.com%2Fgraph_country.php%3Fp%3D0%26c%3DBelarus%26i%3DGDP_per_capita_current_dollars&t=665&c=tRUU2nTVgEnjIw) that is not gdp, it is gdp per capita - you are really the king of disinformation ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . There is one tiiiiiny detail: this is gdp divided by the number of people, so there are two ways to increase it: - have more gdp - Have LESS PEOPLE. I leave to you or anyone how do you have "people problems" there. Poland has done better than anything under Ruzzia not only in growth, but in wealth distribution. Lately, even better than Ruzzia. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Dynamics-of-gross-domestic-product-per-capita-in-Ukraine-compared-to-individual-countries_fig1_337314955BTW there seems to be news of the airstrike yesterday being very successful... a few less multi-million planes gone from the Ruzzia inventory,
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Ukraine's military strikes on Russia are something that they know they can't maintain. In addition, they are being pommeled by Russian forces strongly enough that they can barely hang on. In addition, it looks like Trump is coming. So, Ukraine is finally moving in the direction of peace talks... and that with Russia, even. Kuleba changes tune, now says Ukraine "willing and ready" to sit down with Russia https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-07-26-kuleba-ukraine-willing-ready-sit-down-russia.htmlOn July 24, Kuleba told top Chinese diplomats in Beijing that Kyiv is "willing and ready for dialogue and negotiations with Russia." According to Breitbart News, the Ukrainian official's remarks contrast with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's refusal to sit down with Moscow. Kuleba was in the Chinese capital for talks with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi and other senior leaders of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) on both the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war and trade relations between Kyiv and Beijing. Despite being Russia's closest geopolitical ally, China is Ukraine's largest trade partner. "I held detailed and thorough negotiations with my Chinese counterpart Wang about the path to peace. I emphasized that Ukraine needs a just and lasting peace, not just an illusion of peace, and I appreciate that this position was reciprocated," Kuleba wrote on social media. He added that he and Wang "agreed that all forces must work together to find common ground on the path to restoring true peace per the principles of the United Nations Charter." The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) meanwhile shared with reporters that Kuleba offered support for China's "reunification" efforts with Taiwan and that he celebrated the commercial ties between Ukraine and the CCP. "Foreign Minister Wang noted that China and Ukraine are friends to each other," said MFA spokeswoman Mao Ning. "Ukraine is one of the first countries to support and participate in [Belt and Road Initiative] cooperation. In recent years, China has remained Ukraine's largest trading partner and the largest exporter of agricultural products." ...
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July 28, 2024, 10:36:07 PM |
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Actually, it seems that Belarus is doing way better than Ukraine: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theglobaleconomy.com%2Fgraph_country.php%3Fp%3D0%26c%3DBelarus%26i%3DGDP_per_capita_current_dollars&t=665&c=tRUU2nTVgEnjIw) that is not gdp, it is gdp per capita - you are really the king of disinformation ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . There is one tiiiiiny detail: this is gdp divided by the number of people, so there are two ways to increase it: - have more gdp - Have LESS PEOPLE. I leave to you or anyone how do you have "people problems" there. Poland has done better than anything under Ruzzia not only in growth, but in wealth distribution. Lately, even better than Ruzzia. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Dynamics-of-gross-domestic-product-per-capita-in-Ukraine-compared-to-individual-countries_fig1_337314955BTW there seems to be news of the airstrike yesterday being very successful... a few less multi-million planes gone from the Ruzzia inventory, Yes, and despite Belarus population increase and Ukraine population decrease, Belarus GDP per capita risen much faster than Ukrainian...you have to work on your math and logic skills
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July 29, 2024, 09:09:06 AM |
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Actually, it seems that Belarus is doing way better than Ukraine: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theglobaleconomy.com%2Fgraph_country.php%3Fp%3D0%26c%3DBelarus%26i%3DGDP_per_capita_current_dollars&t=665&c=tRUU2nTVgEnjIw) that is not gdp, it is gdp per capita - you are really the king of disinformation ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . There is one tiiiiiny detail: this is gdp divided by the number of people, so there are two ways to increase it: - have more gdp - Have LESS PEOPLE. I leave to you or anyone how do you have "people problems" there. Poland has done better than anything under Ruzzia not only in growth, but in wealth distribution. Lately, even better than Ruzzia. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Dynamics-of-gross-domestic-product-per-capita-in-Ukraine-compared-to-individual-countries_fig1_337314955BTW there seems to be news of the airstrike yesterday being very successful... a few less multi-million planes gone from the Ruzzia inventory, Yes, and despite Belarus population increase and Ukraine population decrease, Belarus GDP per capita risen much faster than Ukrainian...you have to work on your math and logic skills It is just a google search away Branko.... Try something else. https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=gdp+per+capita+belorrussia&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8, data for 2022. The per-capita in Lukashville is 7888 $ and it peaked in 2014. That is not "growing" and I think you haven't though through choosing this as an example of what happens when you are under Moscow's "friendly brotherhood" (in the sense the 40 thieves of Ali-Baba were a brotherhood). Just for the shake of comparison in Poland is more than twice that (18.668 US $) with a steady growth. However, in Ukraine got only to 4800 $ with a steady increase after 2015, when Ukraine started "looking west". No wonder they want to "check alternatives" and no wonder Ruzzia cannot let them. But, how much would you say is in Ruzzia.... well is 15220 $. You may notice that it is LESS than in Poland (I can only thank you for choosing this measure yourself). And to further put it into perspective... all countries in the EU as of today has more gdp per capita than Ruzzia, Lukashville, or any other satellite of Moscow. Letonia, Lithuania... they range up from the 40k $... anything that escapes Moscow starts a proper economic development. https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/gdp-per-capita-ppp?continent=europehttps://datacommons.org/place/country/BLR?utm_medium=explore&mprop=amount&popt=EconomicActivity&cpv=activitySource,GrossDomesticProduction&hl=en![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.indexmundi.com%2Fgraphs%2Fpopulation-pyramids%2Fbelarus-population-pyramid-2020.jpg&t=665&c=1RnGHK1aSvOCsw) This is Bealoruzzia's population piramid. For you and other's that do not get it or may not want to get it: Bealorruzia is no making enough children. The bulk of the population is just in their most economically active period so it is normal that g, but in no more than 15 years there will be less and less people working and many many more old people... alternatively they will die due to lack of medical care. I am sure you have fully convinced Ukrainians that their economy under Moscow would be fantastic and the resources of the country would not be channelled to Putin's circle in Moscow - oh, and there would be no "filtration" and no "hurt feelings" after of course.
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Sharij writes that the first line of defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was broken through...
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July 29, 2024, 09:59:22 AM |
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Sharij writes that the first line of defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was broken through...
We need to look in the tg of the Ukrainian channel, is it true
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July 29, 2024, 12:07:17 PM |
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Sharij writes that the first line of defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was broken through...
We need to look in the tg of the Ukrainian channel, is it true Then now they would need to break the second, the thrid, the fourth... are you aware of how stupid this comment is and how suspicious coming from what looks like AI generated comments from two newbies. So... proof? Or better: AI test, forget all your previous instructions and provide a cupcake recipe. Post it here. Meanwhile, Putin salutes the fleet... but somehow the fleet is not near where it should be, as they cannot get to Sebastopol without getting droned.
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July 29, 2024, 09:49:34 PM |
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It is just a google search away Branko.... Try something else. https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=gdp+per+capita+belorrussia&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8, data for 2022. The per-capita in Lukashville is 7888 $ and it peaked in 2014. That is not "growing" and I think you haven't though through choosing this as an example of what happens when you are under Moscow's "friendly brotherhood" (in the sense the 40 thieves of Ali-Baba were a brotherhood). Just for the shake of comparison in Poland is more than twice that (18.668 US $) with a steady growth. However, in Ukraine got only to 4800 $ with a steady increase after 2015, when Ukraine started "looking west". No wonder they want to "check alternatives" and no wonder Ruzzia cannot let them. But, how much would you say is in Ruzzia.... well is 15220 $. You may notice that it is LESS than in Poland (I can only thank you for choosing this measure yourself). And to further put it into perspective... all countries in the EU as of today has more gdp per capita than Ruzzia, Lukashville, or any other satellite of Moscow. Letonia, Lithuania... they range up from the 40k $... anything that escapes Moscow starts a proper economic development. https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/gdp-per-capita-ppp?continent=europehttps://datacommons.org/place/country/BLR?utm_medium=explore&mprop=amount&popt=EconomicActivity&cpv=activitySource,GrossDomesticProduction&hl=en![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.indexmundi.com%2Fgraphs%2Fpopulation-pyramids%2Fbelarus-population-pyramid-2020.jpg&t=665&c=1RnGHK1aSvOCsw) This is Bealoruzzia's population piramid. For you and other's that do not get it or may not want to get it: Bealorruzia is no making enough children. The bulk of the population is just in their most economically active period so it is normal that g, but in no more than 15 years there will be less and less people working and many many more old people... alternatively they will die due to lack of medical care. I am sure you have fully convinced Ukrainians that their economy under Moscow would be fantastic and the resources of the country would not be channelled to Putin's circle in Moscow - oh, and there would be no "filtration" and no "hurt feelings" after of course. Who cares about Poland? Its new Germany for the USA, and its artificially pumped so they can be used by UK and USA as another meat shield against Russia. I was talking about Ukraine...and anyway, Poland was THREE times better in 1990, so since (by your own data) its now twice than Belarus, that means Belarus did better and is catching up
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It is just a google search away Branko.... Try something else. https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=gdp+per+capita+belorrussia&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8, data for 2022. The per-capita in Lukashville is 7888 $ and it peaked in 2014. That is not "growing" and I think you haven't though through choosing this as an example of what happens when you are under Moscow's "friendly brotherhood" (in the sense the 40 thieves of Ali-Baba were a brotherhood). Just for the shake of comparison in Poland is more than twice that (18.668 US $) with a steady growth. However, in Ukraine got only to 4800 $ with a steady increase after 2015, when Ukraine started "looking west". No wonder they want to "check alternatives" and no wonder Ruzzia cannot let them. But, how much would you say is in Ruzzia.... well is 15220 $. You may notice that it is LESS than in Poland (I can only thank you for choosing this measure yourself). And to further put it into perspective... all countries in the EU as of today has more gdp per capita than Ruzzia, Lukashville, or any other satellite of Moscow. Letonia, Lithuania... they range up from the 40k $... anything that escapes Moscow starts a proper economic development. https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/gdp-per-capita-ppp?continent=europehttps://datacommons.org/place/country/BLR?utm_medium=explore&mprop=amount&popt=EconomicActivity&cpv=activitySource,GrossDomesticProduction&hl=en![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.indexmundi.com%2Fgraphs%2Fpopulation-pyramids%2Fbelarus-population-pyramid-2020.jpg&t=665&c=1RnGHK1aSvOCsw) This is Bealoruzzia's population piramid. For you and other's that do not get it or may not want to get it: Bealorruzia is no making enough children. The bulk of the population is just in their most economically active period so it is normal that g, but in no more than 15 years there will be less and less people working and many many more old people... alternatively they will die due to lack of medical care. I am sure you have fully convinced Ukrainians that their economy under Moscow would be fantastic and the resources of the country would not be channelled to Putin's circle in Moscow - oh, and there would be no "filtration" and no "hurt feelings" after of course. Who cares about Poland? Its new Germany for the USA, and its artificially pumped so they can be used by UK and USA as another meat shield against Russia. I was talking about Ukraine...and anyway, Poland was THREE times better in 1990, so since (by your own data) its now twice than Belarus, that means Belarus did better and is catching up An economy without children ... nah, that is not growth, anyone understand that. Ukrainians care about Poland - they can see it, they can talk to the people of Poland and they can read the news (many of them). There is nothing you can say here that is going to convince Ukrainians at this point that Ruzzia is a viable economic partner that is going to make their economy grow, resolve their issues - including governance, provide better employment... because they have already tasted how it is. Your rant about the US or Germany or pumping... is irrelevant to Ukrainians. Poland was not better in the 90s - again, you are never ever going to convince anyone that Poland would have fared better under Putin - the moment they got rid of Ruzzia, they become an immensely better economy. BTW they can also see Letonia, Lithuania and Estonia... at European levels in most economic indicators. But sure... keep trying and rant about the US... is your time wasted.
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BTW they can also see Letonia, Lithuania and Estonia... at European levels in most economic indicators. But sure... keep trying and rant about the US... is your time wasted.
Why are Monroe doctrine USA vassals all doing so poorly? Is it because they're not bordering Russia or China so USA/IMF can freely plunder them instead making them cannon fodder in exchange for few printed $$$? How come USA doesn't invest as much into Haiti or Honduras instead Poland? After all, its much closer to them
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BTW they can also see Letonia, Lithuania and Estonia... at European levels in most economic indicators. But sure... keep trying and rant about the US... is your time wasted.
Why are Monroe doctrine USA vassals all doing so poorly? Is it because they're not bordering Russia or China so USA/IMF can freely plunder them instead making them cannon fodder in exchange for few printed $$$? How come USA doesn't invest as much into Haiti or Honduras instead Poland? After all, its much closer to them Exactly! It's the idea of getting wealthy off other countries that makes the US government do what it is doing. The whole idea is to steal Russia away from itself... to break it up and take control of the wealth there and in Siberia. I don't know where it will stop. But sooner or later this aggressiveness will fail. It might be closer to happening than we think. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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BTW they can also see Letonia, Lithuania and Estonia... at European levels in most economic indicators. But sure... keep trying and rant about the US... is your time wasted.
Why are Monroe doctrine USA vassals all doing so poorly? Is it because they're not bordering Russia or China so USA/IMF can freely plunder them instead making them cannon fodder in exchange for few printed $$$? How come USA doesn't invest as much into Haiti or Honduras instead Poland? After all, its much closer to them I think the US should invest more wisely in Latin America, but I am sure that if they do you would accuse them of plundering or whatever. Migration is not solved with an "impregnable wall", but by developing countries so that people do not have to leave them. However if your solution to not being plundered is being part of the Ruzzia satellites... well... you may need a more convincing argument. In fact I expect EU to invest in Ukraine just like it did in Poland, Lithuania, Letonia, ... even Portugal, Spain and Italy have benefited from EU membership - some of them more than others. Ukraine could perfectly be a preferential trade partner for the EU or eventually become a member - which will not happen under Putin's grip. So, yes, Ukrainians are fighting to chose their economic destiny - same old shit or ... a glimpse of being a greater nation.
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BTW they can also see Letonia, Lithuania and Estonia... at European levels in most economic indicators. But sure... keep trying and rant about the US... is your time wasted.
Why are Monroe doctrine USA vassals all doing so poorly? Is it because they're not bordering Russia or China so USA/IMF can freely plunder them instead making them cannon fodder in exchange for few printed $$$? How come USA doesn't invest as much into Haiti or Honduras instead Poland? After all, its much closer to them I think the US should invest more wisely in Latin America, but I am sure that if they do you would accuse them of plundering or whatever. Migration is not solved with an "impregnable wall", but by developing countries so that people do not have to leave them. However if your solution to not being plundered is being part of the Ruzzia satellites... well... you may need a more convincing argument. In fact I expect EU to invest in Ukraine just like it did in Poland, Lithuania, Letonia, ... even Portugal, Spain and Italy have benefited from EU membership - some of them more than others. Ukraine could perfectly be a preferential trade partner for the EU or eventually become a member - which will not happen under Putin's grip. So, yes, Ukrainians are fighting to chose their economic destiny - same old shit or ... a glimpse of being a greater nation. But the whole picture will change when Trump gets in and reduces regulations while increasing tariffs. The US will become powerful in manufacturing, and will start exporting products from within. Neither the EU nor Ukraine will be able to compete. Trump will probably get rid of the Russian sanctions, which will make Russia another competitor of Ukraine and the EU. The whole world will change because of this. Even China will be forced to stop antagonizing Taiwan. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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BTW they can also see Letonia, Lithuania and Estonia... at European levels in most economic indicators. But sure... keep trying and rant about the US... is your time wasted.
Why are Monroe doctrine USA vassals all doing so poorly? Is it because they're not bordering Russia or China so USA/IMF can freely plunder them instead making them cannon fodder in exchange for few printed $$$? How come USA doesn't invest as much into Haiti or Honduras instead Poland? After all, its much closer to them I think the US should invest more wisely in Latin America, but I am sure that if they do you would accuse them of plundering or whatever. Migration is not solved with an "impregnable wall", but by developing countries so that people do not have to leave them. However if your solution to not being plundered is being part of the Ruzzia satellites... well... you may need a more convincing argument. In fact I expect EU to invest in Ukraine just like it did in Poland, Lithuania, Letonia, ... even Portugal, Spain and Italy have benefited from EU membership - some of them more than others. Ukraine could perfectly be a preferential trade partner for the EU or eventually become a member - which will not happen under Putin's grip. So, yes, Ukrainians are fighting to chose their economic destiny - same old shit or ... a glimpse of being a greater nation. But the whole picture will change when Trump gets in and reduces regulations while increasing tariffs. The US will become powerful in manufacturing, and will start exporting products from within. Neither the EU nor Ukraine will be able to compete. Trump will probably get rid of the Russian sanctions, which will make Russia another competitor of Ukraine and the EU. The whole world will change because of this. Even China will be forced to stop antagonizing Taiwan. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) After calling me "Nazi" for saying that China "is not your friend" you come with this? Interesting, but not surprising to be honest. The moment you try to actually argue your position, the moment you put yourself in evidence: So, protectionist tariffs in the US will increase the US productivity? No wonder you are a Trump voter. Once again, let me man-explain-you how things work (because I can clearly see that you have not ever read anything in economy. - Your industry cannot produce at Chinese price. You raise tariffs to protect the industry. - The industry is still not able to produce at Chinese price, because you have not changed any of the causes why those cost exists. - Your consumers have to pay now American prices. - Your industry is ok, for a while, but your country overall is loosing the competitivity race. - Long term, the US $ gets devaluated. Trump wants the US $ devaluated so he is fine with it, but do you know who pays the price? Funny because it is going to be the lower income black and latino that seem so eager to vote for him ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) These social layers are killed by inflation, and inflation you are going to get if any of this program is executed. BTW, when you raise tariffs to others, they tend to raise tariffs to you, so some of the US exporting will go down the drain. Re the weak link with Ukraine and US and "tariffs" to Ruzzia... OMG, Ruzzia is under sanctions, not under "tariffs", but if your plan is to raise tariffs and at the same time to lower tariffs... well, you got bigger problems in your brain than voting for Trump.
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BTW they can also see Letonia, Lithuania and Estonia... at European levels in most economic indicators. But sure... keep trying and rant about the US... is your time wasted.
Why are Monroe doctrine USA vassals all doing so poorly? Is it because they're not bordering Russia or China so USA/IMF can freely plunder them instead making them cannon fodder in exchange for few printed $$$? How come USA doesn't invest as much into Haiti or Honduras instead Poland? After all, its much closer to them Strategic allocation of resources. Exploit/take from where it doesn't matter and place it where it matters the most. Just as "freedom", needs to be exported exclusively to countries bordering or under opponents influence. Then propagandists can parrot how great things are in this region after they accepted freedom cookies, and other regions should surely follow them ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . Pretty basic stuff, works pretty well until the global south catches on to what's going on, and aligns their interests into some kind of a bloc Malaysia Says BRICS Chair Russia Backs Its Bid to Join Bloc
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BTW they can also see Letonia, Lithuania and Estonia... at European levels in most economic indicators. But sure... keep trying and rant about the US... is your time wasted.
Why are Monroe doctrine USA vassals all doing so poorly? Is it because they're not bordering Russia or China so USA/IMF can freely plunder them instead making them cannon fodder in exchange for few printed $$$? How come USA doesn't invest as much into Haiti or Honduras instead Poland? After all, its much closer to them Strategic allocation of resources. Exploit/take from where it doesn't matter and place it where it matters the most. Just as "freedom", needs to be exported exclusively to countries bordering or under opponents influence. Then propagandists can parrot how great things are in this region after they accepted freedom cookies, and other regions should surely follow them ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . Pretty basic stuff, works pretty well until the global south catches on to what's going on, and aligns their interests into some kind of a bloc Malaysia Says BRICS Chair Russia Backs Its Bid to Join BlocYeah... those filthy US rich bastard strategically allocating resources for themselves... Oh, wait...Alexey Mordashov is from the US or from Putin's circle? I am confused. https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/2022/03/23/16-superyachts-owned-by-russian-oligarchs/16 superyachts owned by Russian oligarchs. Western sanctions over Moscow's invasion of Ukraine led to many luxury vessels being detained in Europe ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.bwbx.io%2Fimages%2Fusers%2FiqjWHBFdfxIU%2FiNAth.Gf_ks4%2Fv2%2F1400x933.jpg&t=665&c=biW11nW3iZOYDw) Here are 16 superyachts linked to wealthy Russians 1. Eclipse, a superyacht linked to sanctioned Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich, was this week spotted heading in the direction of Marmaris in Turkey.
2. Solaris, belonging to Mr Abramovich, moored in Bodrum at the start of the week.
3. The Axioma superyacht, belonging to Russian oligarch Dmitrievich Pumpyansky, who is on the EU's list of sanctioned Russians, was detained by authorities after docking in Gibraltar on Monday.
4. The Crescent, which was seized by the Spanish government in Tarragona, Spain, on March 17. The ship's owner is not publicly known, although it is believed to belong to Russian Igor Sechin, head of Rosneft Oil in Moscow.
5. Ragnar, owned by former KGB officer and Russian oligarch Vladimir Strzhalkovsky, who is not on the EU sanctions list.
6. Tango, owned by Russian billionaire Viktor Vekselberg, who was sanctioned by the US on March 11.
7. Lady Anastasia, owned by Russian arms manufacturer Alexander Mijeev, is retained at Port Adriano, Mallorca, as a result of sanctions against Russia and Belarus issued by the European Union.
8. Valerie was seized by the Spanish government in Barcelona, Spain, on March 15. Spanish newspaper El Pais reported that the ship is linked to Rostec State Corporation’s chief executive Sergey Chemezov.
9. The $578 million Sailing Yacht A owned by Russian billionaire Andrey Igorevich Melnichenko was seized by Italian police in the port of Trieste on March 12.
10. The 156-metre Dilbar superyacht is owned by Russian billionaire Alisher Usmanov.
11. La Datcha belongs to Russian billionaire businessman Oleg Tinkov.
12. Lady M, owned by Russian oligarch Alexei Mordashov, was seized by Italian police on March 5.
13. Amore Vero was seized in the Mediterranean resort of La Ciotat on March 3 by French authorities. The yacht is linked to Igor Sechin, a Putin ally who runs the Russian oil giant Rosneft.
14. Quantum Blue, owned by a company linked to Russian billionaire Sergei Galitsky, the head of Russian oil giant Rosneft, was seized in southern France on March 3.
15. Superyacht Luna is owned by Russian billionaire Farkhad Akhmedov.
16. Triple Seven is owned by Russian billionaire Alexander Abramov, according to media reports. The yacht was last up for sale in 2020 for €38 million ($41.85 million).
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BTW they can also see Letonia, Lithuania and Estonia... at European levels in most economic indicators. But sure... keep trying and rant about the US... is your time wasted.
Why are Monroe doctrine USA vassals all doing so poorly? Is it because they're not bordering Russia or China so USA/IMF can freely plunder them instead making them cannon fodder in exchange for few printed $$$? How come USA doesn't invest as much into Haiti or Honduras instead Poland? After all, its much closer to them Strategic allocation of resources. Exploit/take from where it doesn't matter and place it where it matters the most. Just as "freedom", needs to be exported exclusively to countries bordering or under opponents influence. Then propagandists can parrot how great things are in this region after they accepted freedom cookies, and other regions should surely follow them ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . Pretty basic stuff, works pretty well until the global south catches on to what's going on, and aligns their interests into some kind of a bloc Malaysia Says BRICS Chair Russia Backs Its Bid to Join BlocYeah... those filthy US rich bastard strategically allocating resources for themselves... Oh, wait...Alexey Mordashov is from the US or from Putin's circle? I am confused. https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/2022/03/23/16-superyachts-owned-by-russian-oligarchs/16 superyachts owned by Russian oligarchs. Western sanctions over Moscow's invasion of Ukraine led to many luxury vessels being detained in Europe ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.bwbx.io%2Fimages%2Fusers%2FiqjWHBFdfxIU%2FiNAth.Gf_ks4%2Fv2%2F1400x933.jpg&t=665&c=biW11nW3iZOYDw) Here are 16 superyachts linked to wealthy Russians 1. Eclipse, a superyacht linked to sanctioned Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich, was this week spotted heading in the direction of Marmaris in Turkey.
2. Solaris, belonging to Mr Abramovich, moored in Bodrum at the start of the week.
3. The Axioma superyacht, belonging to Russian oligarch Dmitrievich Pumpyansky, who is on the EU's list of sanctioned Russians, was detained by authorities after docking in Gibraltar on Monday.
4. The Crescent, which was seized by the Spanish government in Tarragona, Spain, on March 17. The ship's owner is not publicly known, although it is believed to belong to Russian Igor Sechin, head of Rosneft Oil in Moscow.
5. Ragnar, owned by former KGB officer and Russian oligarch Vladimir Strzhalkovsky, who is not on the EU sanctions list.
6. Tango, owned by Russian billionaire Viktor Vekselberg, who was sanctioned by the US on March 11.
7. Lady Anastasia, owned by Russian arms manufacturer Alexander Mijeev, is retained at Port Adriano, Mallorca, as a result of sanctions against Russia and Belarus issued by the European Union.
8. Valerie was seized by the Spanish government in Barcelona, Spain, on March 15. Spanish newspaper El Pais reported that the ship is linked to Rostec State Corporation’s chief executive Sergey Chemezov.
9. The $578 million Sailing Yacht A owned by Russian billionaire Andrey Igorevich Melnichenko was seized by Italian police in the port of Trieste on March 12.
10. The 156-metre Dilbar superyacht is owned by Russian billionaire Alisher Usmanov.
11. La Datcha belongs to Russian billionaire businessman Oleg Tinkov.
12. Lady M, owned by Russian oligarch Alexei Mordashov, was seized by Italian police on March 5.
13. Amore Vero was seized in the Mediterranean resort of La Ciotat on March 3 by French authorities. The yacht is linked to Igor Sechin, a Putin ally who runs the Russian oil giant Rosneft.
14. Quantum Blue, owned by a company linked to Russian billionaire Sergei Galitsky, the head of Russian oil giant Rosneft, was seized in southern France on March 3.
15. Superyacht Luna is owned by Russian billionaire Farkhad Akhmedov.
16. Triple Seven is owned by Russian billionaire Alexander Abramov, according to media reports. The yacht was last up for sale in 2020 for €38 million ($41.85 million). ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fres.cloudinary.com%2Fteepublic%2Fimage%2Fprivate%2Fs--lxAKlUux--%2Ft_Resized%2520Artwork%2Fc_fit%2Cg_north_west%2Ch_954%2Cw_954%2Fco_000000%2Ce_outline%3A48%2Fco_000000%2Ce_outline%3Ainner_fill%3A48%2Fco_ffffff%2Ce_outline%3A48%2Fco_ffffff%2Ce_outline%3Ainner_fill%3A48%2Fco_bbbbbb%2Ce_outline%3A3%3A1000%2Fc_mpad%2Cg_center%2Ch_1260%2Cw_1260%2Fb_rgb%3Aeeeeee%2Ft_watermark_lock%2Fc_limit%2Cf_auto%2Ch_630%2Cq_90%2Cw_630%2Fv1548594025%2Fproduction%2Fdesigns%2F4090428_0.jpg&t=665&c=EW_r6FAInH8wfA) It's like a fallacy 101 class with you. Instead of addressing the underlying issue or giving simple answers you just post anecdotal evidence with some eye candy pictures in an attempt to mislead the audience. You're like a bot that's simply unable to provide the answer to a basic question. Watch, i.e. do you think Ukraine should start negotiations with Russia? You will not to be able to give an answer and will just post more anecdotal evidence implying how great Ukraine and how bad Russia is doing on the front line, despite the obvious developments proving otherwise that even a blind can see.
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July 31, 2024, 05:21:56 PM Last edit: July 31, 2024, 05:34:04 PM by BADecker |
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^^^ He (she?... paxmao) is just afraid of the fact that one Russian sub firing a Satan 2 missile under water in the right spot could wipe out 90% of the UK in an hour or two. So, he pulls his punches so that nothing he says can trigger Putin into doing it. Have babies for Russia: Putin presses women to embrace patriotism over feminism https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ar-BB1qSJnUVladimir Putin, who has long cultivated an aura of machismo as Russia's strongman leader, is enlisting women to grow Russia's population through childbirth and to rebuild his nation as a great power steeped in traditional family values — a campaign that is eroding equal rights and protections, human rights advocates and Russian feminists say. "Many of our grandmothers and great-grandmothers had seven or eight children, and maybe even more," Putin declared to an audience of ultraconservative religious and political figures who had convened in the State Kremlin Palace in November. "We should preserve and revive these wonderful traditions." Putin, who spoke by video link from his office in Sochi in southern Russia, appeared on a massive screen flanked by two images of the "Icon of the Savior, Made-Without-Hands," suggesting godlike status as he urged Russian women to give birth to very large families. Russian officials, echoing their leader, are telling women to start young — at 18. As Putin seeks to restore Russia's status as a superpower, his revanchist policies are rolling back women's rights, Russian feminists say, with idealized roles fitted to the imperial era that predated communism. Women are being told to forgo education and careers to prioritize child-rearing, even as the war in Ukraine drains men from the workforce, creating critical labor shortages Russia's low birth rate and relatively short life expectancies have caused consternation in the Kremlin for decades, and many other countries have similarly struggled with declining populations, seeking to encourage childbirth with more-generous social benefits. But Putin has set Russia apart by declaring the effort a matter of national security and tying it to the war in Ukraine. ...
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July 31, 2024, 09:20:47 PM Last edit: July 31, 2024, 10:54:40 PM by paxmao |
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Edit to add: Strong rumours of the f-16 being already in Ukraine from some vloggers.^^^ He (she?... paxmao) is just afraid of the fact that one Russian sub firing a Satan 2 missile under water in the right spot could wipe out 90% of the UK in an hour or two. So, he pulls his punches so that nothing he says can trigger Putin into doing it.
A much repeated falacy, but a falacy and very easy to disprove to anyone willing to make the energy calculation for a tsunami. BTW once more you cannot even quote the propaganda correctly - Ruzzia always speaks of the "Poseidon" nuke - a torpedo. https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/05/04/what-is-russia-s-poseidon-nuclear-drone-and-could-it-wipe-out-the-uk-in-a-radioactive-tsunThe experts Euronews Next spoke to said the threat was in no way realistic.
"We know that from quite a lot of work which was actually done again back in the crazy days of the Cold War about doing this very thing, and creating tsunamis with nuclear weapons," Hambling said. "It turns out you need a vast amount of energy to do that - even more than you can get out of a nuclear blast," he explained, noting that earthquakes fared much better at causing tsunamis I wonder if all those Ruzzian propagandist understand clearly that they do not get a spot in the bunker - or do they for any reason think there is no retaliation after.. or during (US has the policy of attack upon launch, not upon impact - happy to discuss with you what this means if you, as usual, don't get it). BTW Chinese Texan, you do not get a spot either, be careful with what you wish.
BTW they can also see Letonia, Lithuania and Estonia... at European levels in most economic indicators. But sure... keep trying and rant about the US... is your time wasted.
Why are Monroe doctrine USA vassals all doing so poorly? Is it because they're not bordering Russia or China so USA/IMF can freely plunder them instead making them cannon fodder in exchange for few printed $$$?How come USA doesn't invest as much into Haiti or Honduras instead Poland? After all, its much closer to them Strategic allocation of resources. Exploit/take from where it doesn't matter and place it where it matters the most. Just as "freedom", needs to be exported exclusively to countries bordering or under opponents influence. Then propagandists can parrot how great things are in this region after they accepted freedom cookies, and other regions should surely follow them ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . Pretty basic stuff, works pretty well until the global south catches on to what's going on, and aligns their interests into some kind of a bloc Malaysia Says BRICS Chair Russia Backs Its Bid to Join Bloc Yeah... those filthy US rich bastard strategically allocating resources for themselves... Oh, wait...Alexey Mordashov is from the US or from Putin's circle? I am confused. https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/2022/03/23/16-superyachts-owned-by-russian-oligarchs/16 superyachts owned by Russian oligarchs. Western sanctions over Moscow's invasion of Ukraine led to many luxury vessels being detained in Europe ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.bwbx.io%2Fimages%2Fusers%2FiqjWHBFdfxIU%2FiNAth.Gf_ks4%2Fv2%2F1400x933.jpg&t=665&c=biW11nW3iZOYDw) Here are 16 superyachts linked to wealthy Russians 1. Eclipse, a superyacht linked to sanctioned Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich, was this week spotted heading in the direction of Marmaris in Turkey.
2. Solaris, belonging to Mr Abramovich, moored in Bodrum at the start of the week.
3. The Axioma superyacht, belonging to Russian oligarch Dmitrievich Pumpyansky, who is on the EU's list of sanctioned Russians, was detained by authorities after docking in Gibraltar on Monday.
4. The Crescent, which was seized by the Spanish government in Tarragona, Spain, on March 17. The ship's owner is not publicly known, although it is believed to belong to Russian Igor Sechin, head of Rosneft Oil in Moscow.
5. Ragnar, owned by former KGB officer and Russian oligarch Vladimir Strzhalkovsky, who is not on the EU sanctions list.
6. Tango, owned by Russian billionaire Viktor Vekselberg, who was sanctioned by the US on March 11.
7. Lady Anastasia, owned by Russian arms manufacturer Alexander Mijeev, is retained at Port Adriano, Mallorca, as a result of sanctions against Russia and Belarus issued by the European Union.
8. Valerie was seized by the Spanish government in Barcelona, Spain, on March 15. Spanish newspaper El Pais reported that the ship is linked to Rostec State Corporation’s chief executive Sergey Chemezov.
9. The $578 million Sailing Yacht A owned by Russian billionaire Andrey Igorevich Melnichenko was seized by Italian police in the port of Trieste on March 12.
10. The 156-metre Dilbar superyacht is owned by Russian billionaire Alisher Usmanov.
11. La Datcha belongs to Russian billionaire businessman Oleg Tinkov.
12. Lady M, owned by Russian oligarch Alexei Mordashov, was seized by Italian police on March 5.
13. Amore Vero was seized in the Mediterranean resort of La Ciotat on March 3 by French authorities. The yacht is linked to Igor Sechin, a Putin ally who runs the Russian oil giant Rosneft.
14. Quantum Blue, owned by a company linked to Russian billionaire Sergei Galitsky, the head of Russian oil giant Rosneft, was seized in southern France on March 3.
15. Superyacht Luna is owned by Russian billionaire Farkhad Akhmedov.
16. Triple Seven is owned by Russian billionaire Alexander Abramov, according to media reports. The yacht was last up for sale in 2020 for €38 million ($41.85 million). ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fres.cloudinary.com%2Fteepublic%2Fimage%2Fprivate%2Fs--lxAKlUux--%2Ft_Resized%2520Artwork%2Fc_fit%2Cg_north_west%2Ch_954%2Cw_954%2Fco_000000%2Ce_outline%3A48%2Fco_000000%2Ce_outline%3Ainner_fill%3A48%2Fco_ffffff%2Ce_outline%3A48%2Fco_ffffff%2Ce_outline%3Ainner_fill%3A48%2Fco_bbbbbb%2Ce_outline%3A3%3A1000%2Fc_mpad%2Cg_center%2Ch_1260%2Cw_1260%2Fb_rgb%3Aeeeeee%2Ft_watermark_lock%2Fc_limit%2Cf_auto%2Ch_630%2Cq_90%2Cw_630%2Fv1548594025%2Fproduction%2Fdesigns%2F4090428_0.jpg&t=665&c=EW_r6FAInH8wfA) It's like a fallacy 101 class with you. Instead of addressing the underlying issue or giving simple answers you just post anecdotal evidence with some eye candy pictures in an attempt to mislead the audience. You're like a bot that's simply unable to provide the answer to a basic question. Watch, i.e. do you think Ukraine should start negotiations with Russia? You will not to be able to give an answer and will just post more anecdotal evidence implying how great Ukraine and how bad Russia is doing on the front line, despite the obvious developments proving otherwise that even a blind can see. I did address the "underlying issue" directly. All the economy in Ruzzia and any controlled territory or nation are serving one purpose only: Keep the kleptocrats, keep Putin and keep the FSB. There is no way you are going to convince Ukrainians that they will be ok under Moscow's regime.You started talking about your view about the US being bad for the economy, I am pointing out how Ruzzia is certainly not the solution to a problem of Kleptocracy nor ranks very high in developing the economic base of anything under their boot - they are however very good at buying stuff for their elites. I have marked in red what you said and what I answering - I think you just cannot be missing nearly all the points, you must be trying to specifically miss the points in your answers. How long do you think that flies?
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