Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[BADecker]

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You seem to be misinformed [WillyAp] or just not thinking.

Zelensky is dictator over a chunk of land that has lost it's meaning when he became dictator, by martial law. Now we have two things:
1. Former Ukraine law, which doesn't exist, because...
2. Z law abolished it when Z became dictator through martial law.

As dictator over a piece of land, he can call it anything that he wants, even Ukraine. But it isn't the prewar Ukraine until he formally drops the martial law, or until, possibly, when he loses the war.

But Z has a bunch of people all over the world scratching their heads... not realizing that there are two Ukraine's. A former one which doesn't exist since the time that martial law was enacted by Z. And an informal, different one, that exists by Z's word, which he can do because in his martial law, he is dictator.

It's a good thing that Putin and the Russian leaders can think. They easily see this, even though much of the world wants to turn a blind eye to it.

Thus, you cannot give an example of my lies from all that I wrote. This means only one thing, there is no lies in my words.

Here is one right here. You deceptively maintain the old Ukraine which does not exist, now that Zelensky has taken over as dictator, and won't allow the people to change him out.

A new Z country. New rules. New points of interest... except for the kill Ukrainians part. Kill 'em, just don't tell them that their death is part of a plan to wipe out Ukrainians, so that all who are left have to accept Z-land or die. But since he controls the way he does - without oversight by some Ukrainian parliament - it's a new country. And your lie is in the fact that you are trying to hide Z-land from the people.

All the stuff you might say that is connected to ancient history might be true for that ancient history. But when you try to make it part of today, it's almost all lies.

[montaga]

 Crimea is Crimea not Russian or Ukrainien territory
https://youtu.be/fs0nN4zBgmI
What happend with "Hello my 'deer' friends?"

[BADecker]

Crimea is Crimea not Russian or Ukrainien territory
https://youtu.be/fs0nN4zBgmI
What happend with "Hello my 'deer' friends?"

Military Summary has taken a few days off... maybe more than a weak, even.


Trump shortened the 50-days to 12-days (10-days?) for Putin to end the Ukraine war. Putin was acting mercifully with Ukraine, but now he may have to mount an all-out war to get it done in 12 days.

[DaRude]

Crimea is Crimea not Russian or Ukrainien territory
https://youtu.be/fs0nN4zBgmI
What happend with "Hello my 'deer' friends?"

Military Summary has taken a few days off... maybe more than a weak, even.


Trump shortened the 50-days to 12-days (10-days?) for Putin to end the Ukraine war. Putin was acting mercifully with Ukraine, but now he may have to mount an all-out war to get it done in 12 days.

Or Trump will put up some more tariffs/sanctions that won't change anything, and will distance himself further from Ukraine, essentially continuing the war until Ukraine goes back under Russia's sphere. If US had any leverage to tell Russia how to end this war, Biden would've already done it.

[BADecker]

Crimea is Crimea not Russian or Ukrainien territory
https://youtu.be/fs0nN4zBgmI
What happend with "Hello my 'deer' friends?"

Military Summary has taken a few days off... maybe more than a weak, even.


Trump shortened the 50-days to 12-days (10-days?) for Putin to end the Ukraine war. Putin was acting mercifully with Ukraine, but now he may have to mount an all-out war to get it done in 12 days.

Or Trump will put up some more tariffs/sanctions that won't change anything, and will distance himself further from Ukraine, essentially continuing the war until Ukraine goes back under Russia's sphere. If US had any leverage to tell Russia how to end this war, Biden would've already done it.

Some of that may be true, but the US and the UK are working to oust Zelensky. They have already chosen the new guy. Who knows if it will work, but it is at least buying Russia some more time to take all of Ukraine.


Russian Intel: US and UK Working to Oust Zelensky and Enthrone Zaluzhny – Ukrainian General Is Portrayed in the Pages of Vogue


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/07/russian-intel-us-uk-working-oust-zelensky-enthrone/
The ousting of Kiev regime leader is ongoing – and today, the successor was anointed in the pages of Vogue.

After three and a half years hailed as the heroic defender of democracy and a present-day Churchill, Kiev regime leader Volodymyr Zelensky rapidly fell out of favor with both the exhausted Ukrainian population and with his masters in the West.

We reported today here on TGP how the EU has frozen all aid until the independence of the anti-corruption agencies is restored.

(The problem is that the agencies were investigating people on Zelensky's and Andriy Yermak's circles.)

But, according to Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, the US and Britain not only want to replace Zelensky with General Valery Zaluzhny as president of Ukraine, but they are already plotting it, discussing it at a secret meeting in the Alps.

Until February 2024, Zaluzhny held the post of commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Here he became famous as the organizer of meat grinders for Ukrainian troops.

Sputnik reported:

"In March 2024, due to a conflict with Zelensky and unwillingness to give him decision-making on army actions, he was removed from his post and sent as the Ukrainian ambassador to London. He probably carries out Kiev's main communication with [British Intelligence] MI6."

For Zelensky to get rid of Zaluzhny ended up being a long and painful process, that we reported play-by-play here in TGP:

Zelensky Versus Zaluzhny: The Infighting Worsens as the President Gives Orders Directly to Battlefield, Bypassing the General That Is Polling Much Higher Than Him.

ENDGAME: Ukraine's Zelensky Reportedly to Fire General Zaluzhny After Months of Infighting.
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[paxmao]

Crimea is Crimea not Russian or Ukrainien territory
https://youtu.be/fs0nN4zBgmI
What happend with "Hello my 'deer' friends?"

Military Summary has taken a few days off... maybe more than a weak, even.


Trump shortened the 50-days to 12-days (10-days?) for Putin to end the Ukraine war. Putin was acting mercifully with Ukraine, but now he may have to mount an all-out war to get it done in 12 days.

Or Trump will put up some more tariffs/sanctions that won't change anything, and will distance himself further from Ukraine, essentially continuing the war until Ukraine goes back under Russia's sphere. If US had any leverage to tell Russia how to end this war, Biden would've already done it.

Oh, your wet dreams again over and over... There is no scenario in which that happens - not with China watching the game from the sides and Germany spending in weapons more than ever since WW II.

I think Trump has passed now the knowledge test about Ruzzian "diplomacy" 101, and 201. He is now moving into finding out what the fuc* to do about the situation. The answer is... exactly what he was complaning about with the previous POTUS. He is not smarter, he is not stronger and Putin does not respect him any more than he respected Kamala.

[BADecker]

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Or Trump will put up some more tariffs/sanctions that won't change anything, and will distance himself further from Ukraine, essentially continuing the war until Ukraine goes back under Russia's sphere. If US had any leverage to tell Russia how to end this war, Biden would've already done it.

Oh, your wet dreams again over and over... There is no scenario in which that happens - not with China watching the game from the sides and Germany spending in weapons more than ever since WW II.

I think Trump has passed now the knowledge test about Ruzzian "diplomacy" 101, and 201. He is now moving into finding out what the fuc* to do about the situation. The answer is... exactly what he was complaning about with the previous POTUS. He is not smarter, he is not stronger and Putin does not respect him any more than he respected Kamala.

But its the results that count. Respect and honor and wisdom and strength might have something to do with it, but the results show what is happening.

Things might change, but right now the results are that Russia is taking Ukraine, and Zelensky is too stupid to stop fighting and really negotiate a peace deal.


EU freezes €29.7 billion in Ukraine aid after Zelensky undermines anti-corruption agencies


https://www.naturalnews.com/2025-07-30-eu-freezes-billions-ukraine-aid-zelensky-agencies.html
The freeze, enacted on July 24, targets emergency loans from frozen Russian assets and broader financial support mechanisms, signaling Brussels' refusal to bankroll a government accused of sabotaging its own anti-graft institutions. After fierce domestic protests and Western pressure, Zelensky reversed course within 24 hours, submitting new legislation to restore autonomy—but the damage to Ukraine's credibility may already be done.

The move exposes a glaring hypocrisy in Western support for Ukraine, where taxpayer-funded aid continues to flow despite rampant corruption at the highest levels. The U.S. and other nations must ask: Why are we propping up a regime that actively dismantles accountability while begging for billions?

Zelensky's power grab backfires

The crisis began on July 21, when Ukraine's Security Service (SBU)—an agency loyal to Zelensky—raided the offices of the National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) and inspected the Specialized Anti-Corruption Prosecutor's Office (SAPO). These agencies, established after Ukraine's 2014 Revolution of Dignity, were designed to root out systemic graft. But their independence became a liability for Zelensky when they targeted his inner circle, including former Deputy Prime Minister Alexey Chernyshov, a key ally accused of corruption.

By July 22, Ukraine's parliament, dominated by Zelensky loyalists, passed a bill gutting NABU and SAPO's autonomy. Zelensky signed it into law on July 23, sparking immediate backlash. Roughly 2,000 protesters flooded Kyiv's streets, with rallies spreading to other cities—marking the first major wartime dissent against Zelensky's leadership.

The EU reacted swiftly. "All financial assistance has been put on hold," confirmed Ukrainian government sources, citing Brussels' ultimatum. The suspension halts two key programs: the €17.2 billion ERA (Extraordinary Revenue Acceleration for Ukraine) fund, drawn from frozen Russian assets, and the €12.5 billion Ukraine Facility, a lifeline for the war-torn economy.

Western pressure forces a retreat

Facing condemnation from the EU, the U.S., and even British Prime Minister Keir Starmer, Zelensky scrambled to contain the fallout. On July 24, he submitted a new draft law claiming to "strengthen" NABU and SAPO's powers in a transparent attempt to placate Western donors. While the bill restores nominal independence, it allows the SBU to inspect anti-corruption staff within six months, leaving the door open for future interference.

The episode reveals Zelensky's true priorities: protecting his cronies, not combating corruption. "Zelensky has long tried to establish control over NABU and SAPO," noted TASS, highlighting his desperation to neutralize investigators probing his allies. Opposition lawmakers warn more indictments loom, threatening Zelensky's political survival.

The EU's suspension is a rare display of accountability, and it's one that Washington should emulate. For years, U.S. taxpayers have bankrolled Ukraine's government despite glaring corruption, including Zelensky's refusal to appoint reformist Oleksandr Tsyvinskyi to lead the Economic Security Bureau. The IMF, too, has warned that Ukraine risks losing $15.6 billion in aid unless it cleans house.
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[DaRude]

Crimea is Crimea not Russian or Ukrainien territory
https://youtu.be/fs0nN4zBgmI
What happend with "Hello my 'deer' friends?"

Military Summary has taken a few days off... maybe more than a weak, even.


Trump shortened the 50-days to 12-days (10-days?) for Putin to end the Ukraine war. Putin was acting mercifully with Ukraine, but now he may have to mount an all-out war to get it done in 12 days.

Or Trump will put up some more tariffs/sanctions that won't change anything, and will distance himself further from Ukraine, essentially continuing the war until Ukraine goes back under Russia's sphere. If US had any leverage to tell Russia how to end this war, Biden would've already done it.

Oh, your wet dreams again over and over... There is no scenario in which that happens - not with China watching the game from the sides and Germany spending in weapons more than ever since WW II.

I think Trump has passed now the knowledge test about Ruzzian "diplomacy" 101, and 201. He is now moving into finding out what the fuc* to do about the situation. The answer is... exactly what he was complaning about with the previous POTUS. He is not smarter, he is not stronger and Putin does not respect him any more than he respected Kamala.

Germany cost of production is very high, so don't look at amount spent but volume produced.

Hmm so US to come back to the same course, because last 3 years were so great for Ukraine or EU or US, to continue doing the same thing? Also i doubt Trump would want to alienate his core base which doesn't know or care where Ukraine is even located, and just want some medical coverage and their standards of living to go up. Plus dumping billions into Ukraine again would be an admission that Biden, which as we all know just won't happen with Trump.

Sure you can push propaganda that US can dictate China from where to obtain their resources and force China to cut their independent suppliers and to buy more expensive US freedom oil just with some tariffs, in order to manipulate the naive and get younger souls for the front lines, but any critically thinking person would find such idea preposterous.

Exclusive: Chinese engines, shipped as 'cooling units', power Russian drones used in Ukraine
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This has never been about Ukraine from the start, so viewing this conflict from the Ukraine's prism would only lead to disappointment. Ukraine is only a pawn in this big game.

[WillyAp]

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The episode reveals Zelensky's true priorities: protecting his cronies, not combating corruption. "Zelensky has long tried to establish control over NABU and SAPO," noted TASS, highlighting his desperation to neutralize investigators probing his allies. Opposition lawmakers warn more indictments loom, threatening Zelensky's political survival.

The EU's suspension is a rare display of accountability, and it's one that Washington should emulate. For years, U.S. taxpayers have bankrolled Ukraine's government despite glaring corruption, including Zelensky's refusal to appoint reformist Oleksandr Tsyvinskyi to lead the Economic Security Bureau. The IMF, too, has warned that Ukraine risks losing $15.6 billion in aid unless it cleans house.

Vs

Zelensky is NOT President of Ukraine. He quit that position when he did two things:
1. Became dictator when he put Ukraine under martial law;
2. Maintained his dictatorship by not allowing elections.

The land that was known as Ukraine (except for the Black Sea Corridor, which has become Russia), is now Z-land. It wouldn't surprise me if Z renamed it Old Zealand.

So what is Zelinsky for you?
A dictator and strongman or a puppet of the mighty west?

By the way in order to collect money from lenders it pays to be nice.

[BADecker]

This

The episode reveals Zelensky's true priorities: protecting his cronies, not combating corruption. "Zelensky has long tried to establish control over NABU and SAPO," noted TASS, highlighting his desperation to neutralize investigators probing his allies. Opposition lawmakers warn more indictments loom, threatening Zelensky's political survival.

The EU's suspension is a rare display of accountability, and it's one that Washington should emulate. For years, U.S. taxpayers have bankrolled Ukraine's government despite glaring corruption, including Zelensky's refusal to appoint reformist Oleksandr Tsyvinskyi to lead the Economic Security Bureau. The IMF, too, has warned that Ukraine risks losing $15.6 billion in aid unless it cleans house.

The above is not my writing.

Vs

Zelensky is NOT President of Ukraine. He quit that position when he did two things:
1. Became dictator when he put Ukraine under martial law;
2. Maintained his dictatorship by not allowing elections.

The land that was known as Ukraine (except for the Black Sea Corridor, which has become Russia), is now Z-land. It wouldn't surprise me if Z renamed it Old Zealand.

So what is Zelinsky for you?
A dictator and strongman or a puppet of the mighty west?

By the way in order to collect money from lenders it pays to be nice.

Didn't I answer it? And didn't you quote the answer?

You are like a bunch of these member who don't understand what is going on. Somebody makes a statement, and then you ask a question that has been answered by the statement you just quoted.

But I'll answer it again anyway. Zelensky is a comedian pervert, who has been established by the West to help the West increase the amount of fiat in the world, to deprive the people who use those fiats, of the value in those fiats. Since I use the USD, and since it is losing value because of the Western banking systems through the way they are manipulating Z, Z is something like a thief to me.

Even Youtube has videos up that show the comedian pervert Zelensky is. He's a really powerful actor, and his acting is real life rather than simply in the movies.

[paxmao]

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This has never been about Ukraine from the start, so viewing this conflict from the Ukraine's prism would only lead to disappointment. Ukraine is only a pawn in this big game.

Keep thinking that. Ruzzia is being played from the start, and Putin has gone all in into a loosing game. I think you are right: you should start seeing what is the game about and it is not about Ukraine - not only about Ukraine.

This

The episode reveals Zelensky's true priorities: protecting his cronies, not combating corruption. "Zelensky has long tried to establish control over NABU and SAPO," noted TASS, highlighting his desperation to neutralize investigators probing his allies. Opposition lawmakers warn more indictments loom, threatening Zelensky's political survival.

The EU's suspension is a rare display of accountability, and it's one that Washington should emulate. For years, U.S. taxpayers have bankrolled Ukraine's government despite glaring corruption, including Zelensky's refusal to appoint reformist Oleksandr Tsyvinskyi to lead the Economic Security Bureau. The IMF, too, has warned that Ukraine risks losing $15.6 billion in aid unless it cleans house.

The above is not my writing.

Vs

Zelensky is NOT President of Ukraine. He quit that position when he did two things:
1. Became dictator when he put Ukraine under martial law;
2. Maintained his dictatorship by not allowing elections.

The land that was known as Ukraine (except for the Black Sea Corridor, which has become Russia), is now Z-land. It wouldn't surprise me if Z renamed it Old Zealand.

So what is Zelinsky for you?
A dictator and strongman or a puppet of the mighty west?

By the way in order to collect money from lenders it pays to be nice.

Didn't I answer it? And didn't you quote the answer?

You are like a bunch of these member who don't understand what is going on. Somebody makes a statement, and then you ask a question that has been answered by the statement you just quoted.

But I'll answer it again anyway. Zelensky is a comedian pervert, who has been established by the West to help the West increase the amount of fiat in the world, to deprive the people who use those fiats, of the value in those fiats. Since I use the USD, and since it is losing value because of the Western banking systems through the way they are manipulating Z, Z is something like a thief to me.

Even Youtube has videos up that show the comedian pervert Zelensky is. He's a really powerful actor, and his acting is real life rather than simply in the movies.

I am not sure if I missquoted you. If so sorry.

But the facts remain, Zelensky is legally the president of Ukraine. Elected freely and, as the constitution of Ukraine is today, the legit president. All the claims of ilegitimacy are simply a (really stupid) attempt at de=estabilisation.

Speaking of which, the "sactions" that are directly applied are the most effective.

https://youtu.be/WxSegKzbPgc

It also seems that nature is sending a message to Ruzzia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbGwZ08RNOo

[cryptotact11]

I am not sure if I missquoted you. If so sorry.

But the facts remain, Zelensky is legally the president of Ukraine. Elected freely and, as the constitution of Ukraine is today, the legit president. All the claims of ilegitimacy are simply a (really stupid) attempt at de=estabilisation.

If Nayib Bukele institutes martial law and remains president indefinitely, he will be legally the president of El Salvador too. Elected freely, and according to the constitution, the legitimate president. Right, this is what you brainwashed idiots are going to say in such a scenario?  If Putin does it, you will say the same?

The little brain dead little Jew is not a legitimate president of anything. If he held elections today, he would not even have 10% of the votes. Because of this, no election is going to happen.

"In March 2024, due to a conflict with Zelensky and unwillingness to give him decision-making on army actions, he was removed from his post and sent as the Ukrainian ambassador to London. He probably carries out Kiev's main communication with [British Intelligence] MI6."

For Zelensky to get rid of Zaluzhny ended up being a long and painful process, that we reported play-by-play here in TGP:

Zelensky Versus Zaluzhny: The Infighting Worsens as the President Gives Orders Directly to Battlefield, Bypassing the General That Is Polling Much Higher Than Him.

Zaluzhny has the support of the Ukrainian people unlike the little clown and his posh whore wife.

[BADecker]

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"In March 2024, due to a conflict with Zelensky and unwillingness to give him decision-making on army actions, he was removed from his post and sent as the Ukrainian ambassador to London. He probably carries out Kiev's main communication with [British Intelligence] MI6."

For Zelensky to get rid of Zaluzhny ended up being a long and painful process, that we reported play-by-play here in TGP:

Zelensky Versus Zaluzhny: The Infighting Worsens as the President Gives Orders Directly to Battlefield, Bypassing the General That Is Polling Much Higher Than Him.

Zaluzhny has the support of the Ukrainian people unlike the little clown and his posh whore wife.

Lol.

Some people support Zelensky. There are millions of Ukrainians who fled Ukraine at the beginning of the war because they do not support him. If you look at the protests against Zelensky going on in Ukraine right now, you will see at least 2 things.

1. The Ukrainians who didn't have the funds to flee Ukraine at the beginning of the war - for fear of Z - are protesting because they have received a respite from Z's own actions in cancelling the law that allows EU oversight of his operations in Ukraine. This means that there are many more who don't support him, or at least don't know who they support.

2. What the people are finding out is that Z is a dictator... but he is operating his dictatorship shrewdly... following some Ukraine laws while quietly misusing his authority... like forced conscription, which he wouldn't need if the people were in favor of him. The people of Ukraine might think that they are in Ukraine, but really, they are in Zelensky-land, and don't even realize that martial law and dictatorship are really the same thing being viewed from slightly different directions.

[WillyAp]

Some people support Zelensky. There are millions of Ukrainians who fled Ukraine at the beginning of the war because they do not support him.

How do you know, its just an assumption. They fled the war not because they don't like the president.

[BADecker]

Some people support Zelensky. There are millions of Ukrainians who fled Ukraine at the beginning of the war because they do not support him.

How do you know, its just an assumption. They fled the war not because they don't like the president.

How do you know? Maybe the whole war is some kind of propaganda and isn't really happening.

Unless we have been there and witnessed it first hand, we have to believe witnesses.

You can find articles all over the Internet about Ukrainians who fled, and others who tried to flee, but were captured by Zelensky's 'recruiters' and forced into their military.

Part of the ongoing protests against Z have to do with this action of his. If you don't look you don't know.

War widows are saying that if they had realized how bitter this was going to be, they wouldn't have trusted Z in the first place.

Investigate, and then explain what you mean.

[DaRude]

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But the facts remain, Zelensky is legally the president of Ukraine. Elected freely and, as the constitution of Ukraine is today, the legit president. All the claims of ilegitimacy are simply a (really stupid) attempt at de=estabilisation.
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Yes I'm sure you'd want people to believe what you claim more than what Ukrainian constitution actually says

Article 103.
The President of Ukraine is elected by the citizens of Ukraine, on the basis of universal, equal and direct suffrage, by secret ballot for a five-year term.
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Regular elections of the President of Ukraine are held on the last Sunday of March of the fifth year of the term of authority of the President of Ukraine. In the event of pre-term termination of authority of the President of Ukraine, elections of the President of Ukraine are held within ninety days from the day of termination of the authority. The procedure for conducting elections of the President of Ukraine is established by law.


Article 8.
In Ukraine is acknowledged and is operated principle of supremacy of right. Constitution of Ukraine has the most greatest legal force. Acts and other legal normatively acts are passed on the basis of Constitution of Ukraine and must answer her. Norms of Constitution of Ukraine are the norms of direct action. The address to the court for defence of constitutional rights and freedoms of man and citizen directly on the basis of Constitution of Ukraine is guaranteed.

[WillyAp]

How do you know? Maybe the whole war is some kind of propaganda and isn't really happening.

What would motivate you more?
A.) dislike the president,
B.) Flee falling bombs?
 

[BADecker]

How do you know? Maybe the whole war is some kind of propaganda and isn't really happening.

What would motivate you more?
A.) dislike the president,
B.) Flee falling bombs?
 

Can't dislike any of the presidents. They are people. Their loss would be like losing the joys of eternity in Heaven... well, for them anyway. Wouldn't want that to happen, now would we?

[LTU_btc]

Some people support Zelensky. There are millions of Ukrainians who fled Ukraine at the beginning of the war because they do not support him.

How do you know, its just an assumption. They fled the war not because they don't like the president.

Interesting logic. Did you asked them personally why did they left Ukraine? Leaving country just because you don't agree with president... No, definitely, it's the main reason, not that they simply wanted to save their lives when full scale invasion started. And such logic looks especially interesting when ratings of Zelensky in first months of war were extremely high.

How do you know? Maybe the whole war is some kind of propaganda and isn't really happening.

Unless we have been there and witnessed it first hand, we have to believe witnesses.

Yeah, there is no war. Just Hollywood movies and AI generated stuff...

[paxmao]

Some people support Zelensky. There are millions of Ukrainians who fled Ukraine at the beginning of the war because they do not support him.

How do you know, its just an assumption. They fled the war not because they don't like the president.

Interesting logic. Did you asked them personally why did they left Ukraine? Leaving country just because you don't agree with president... No, definitely, it's the main reason, not that they simply wanted to save their lives when full scale invasion started. And such logic looks especially interesting when ratings of Zelensky in first months of war were extremely high.

How do you know? Maybe the whole war is some kind of propaganda and isn't really happening.

Unless we have been there and witnessed it first hand, we have to believe witnesses.

Yeah, there is no war. Just Hollywood movies and AI generated stuff...

At this point we all know BADecker... the wilder the theory the more BA will give credit to.  I think we have to create a "conspiranoic humour" section of this forum just for him and let him walltext there.

I have access to people who actually were there. Yeah... all AI generated, they left Ukraine with their children, leaving their homes and good business because they are looking for a hood with more greenery or a nice beach. Either that or they did not want their children to be bombed and their man to be sent to the front.