[Boxing] Crawford vs Spence

[freedomgo]

He wouldn't be worry, he has been calling Spence Jr for quiet sometime now and is eager to face him. And this will be his perfect opportunity, no more Bob Arum in the middle for him to negotiate with Spence Jr and PBC. He might get the short end of the deal, but still, that money is going to be big.

Exactly, 50% of 10 million is smaller than 40% of 20 million, so the percentage does not really matter and Crawford has to take a low percentage for this fight to finally be sealed. Spence is a PPV attraction, so if Crawford could beat Spence, then he will become popular and next fight of his will make him earn more.

That's why Spence Jr. is called the king of PPV because of the revenue he can attract through PPV whenever he got some fights. For Spence, I think he will be more than happy to accept that 40% purse cut just to make the fight happen and that specific cut is already big enough for him as he's now flying solo with no Bob Arum.
He may be under Mayweather Promotions in this fight but his cut will be much bigger than he's with Bob, and that will be his biggest paycheck in his entire career.

do you really think Spence Jr will accept the 40% cut considering that he has more belts than Crawford? it is more on Crawford getting the 40% cut here. anyway, forgetting the purse split, these 2 boxers should fight as early as they can. don't wait 5 years down the road before they finally agreed about purse splits or other things.

Nah! I don't honestly think that Spence Jr. would accept a 40% cut of the purse, he's been already vocal about it that he should have the bigger slice as he has more belt in the table and I think Crawford will happily get that 40% though just to make the fight happen because if this drags again then Crawford will be on the disadvantage.

[mirakal]

He wouldn't be worry, he has been calling Spence Jr for quiet sometime now and is eager to face him. And this will be his perfect opportunity, no more Bob Arum in the middle for him to negotiate with Spence Jr and PBC. He might get the short end of the deal, but still, that money is going to be big.

Exactly, 50% of 10 million is smaller than 40% of 20 million, so the percentage does not really matter and Crawford has to take a low percentage for this fight to finally be sealed. Spence is a PPV attraction, so if Crawford could beat Spence, then he will become popular and next fight of his will make him earn more.

That's why Spence Jr. is called the king of PPV because of the revenue he can attract through PPV whenever he got some fights. For Spence, I think he will be more than happy to accept that 40% purse cut just to make the fight happen and that specific cut is already big enough for him as he's now flying solo with no Bob Arum.
He may be under Mayweather Promotions in this fight but his cut will be much bigger than he's with Bob, and that will be his biggest paycheck in his entire career.

do you really think Spence Jr will accept the 40% cut considering that he has more belts than Crawford? it is more on Crawford getting the 40% cut here. anyway, forgetting the purse split, these 2 boxers should fight as early as they can. don't wait 5 years down the road before they finally agreed about purse splits or other things.

Nah! I don't honestly think that Spence Jr. would accept a 40% cut of the purse, he's been already vocal about it that he should have the bigger slice as he has more belt in the table and I think Crawford will happily get that 40% though just to make the fight happen because if this drags again then Crawford will be on the disadvantage.

Yes, that is why Crawford was very eager to make this fight happen because he had been calling this for years now but it was not materialized as Bob Arum was still taking the most decision for him but this time, he's a free man that is why the fight is now under negotiations.
True, the fight must happen because the time is not on Crawford's side and that 40% is already a big payout for sure.

[wheelz1200]

He wouldn't be worry, he has been calling Spence Jr for quiet sometime now and is eager to face him. And this will be his perfect opportunity, no more Bob Arum in the middle for him to negotiate with Spence Jr and PBC. He might get the short end of the deal, but still, that money is going to be big.

Exactly, 50% of 10 million is smaller than 40% of 20 million, so the percentage does not really matter and Crawford has to take a low percentage for this fight to finally be sealed. Spence is a PPV attraction, so if Crawford could beat Spence, then he will become popular and next fight of his will make him earn more.

That's why Spence Jr. is called the king of PPV because of the revenue he can attract through PPV whenever he got some fights. For Spence, I think he will be more than happy to accept that 40% purse cut just to make the fight happen and that specific cut is already big enough for him as he's now flying solo with no Bob Arum.
He may be under Mayweather Promotions in this fight but his cut will be much bigger than he's with Bob, and that will be his biggest paycheck in his entire career.

do you really think Spence Jr will accept the 40% cut considering that he has more belts than Crawford? it is more on Crawford getting the 40% cut here. anyway, forgetting the purse split, these 2 boxers should fight as early as they can. don't wait 5 years down the road before they finally agreed about purse splits or other things.

Nah! I don't honestly think that Spence Jr. would accept a 40% cut of the purse, he's been already vocal about it that he should have the bigger slice as he has more belt in the table and I think Crawford will happily get that 40% though just to make the fight happen because if this drags again then Crawford will be on the disadvantage.

Yes, that is why Crawford was very eager to make this fight happen because he had been calling this for years now but it was not materialized as Bob Arum was still taking the most decision for him but this time, he's a free man that is why the fight is now under negotiations.
True, the fight must happen because the time is not on Crawford's side and that 40% is already a big payout for sure.

Bob aram is literally why this fight never happened before along with some of the other fights that passed.  Glad the dude is own his own to make these fights happen.  Hopefully more boxers stop combining over money and go the route Crawford is they can chose to fight a guy if they want to no matter the terms.  Was so glad when I heard Bob was off the grid.

[goinmerry]

Bob aram is literally why this fight never happened before along with some of the other fights that passed.  Glad the dude is own his own to make these fights happen.  Hopefully more boxers stop combining over money and go the route Crawford is they can chose to fight a guy if they want to no matter the terms.  Was so glad when I heard Bob was off the grid.

If that's the case then Terence Crawford should accept without hesitation the much smaller cut. The purpose of fighting Errol Spence is his target for a long and that should be the reason why he should move forward on this fight regardless of how much he will receive as long as it's a reasonable price.

In my posted article before, the reason for the delay announcement is about the split but Crawford makes assurance that it's not that really a problem for them to finally settle a deal. I'm sure what's left to be finalized are all small things to consider.

We just have to wait patiently for the official announcement as it's still several months to go before the fight happened.

[harizen]

Nah! I don't honestly think that Spence Jr. would accept a 40% cut of the purse, he's been already vocal about it that he should have the bigger slice as he has more belt in the table and I think Crawford will happily get that 40% though just to make the fight happen because if this drags again then Crawford will be on the disadvantage.

There is no official news released that both parties are disagreeing with the cut. Maybe there are other things that it's not allowed to share in public for now about what's the current score, progress, and status of the negotiation of this fight as it might affect the pre-planned working deals. Just come to think of it, both boxers are desired to face each other and they are very vocal about their anticipated match.

Whether on what part they are still not agreeing, that will surely be settled as they progress.

[bbc.reporter]

^^ Well Floyd has a obvious hidden agenda to tell us that there is negotiations, because he wanted Crawford to be his manager. And maybe if Bud Crawford will sign with him, then that is the time that this fight is going to be made, hehehe. But still the fight can still be made in October, we still have 3 months of it and many things can happen along the way to put this fight in schedule at least for this year.

There might be some truth in what Floyd Mayweather is speculating despite having a hidden agenda, however. He might have information of the sensitive occurrences in those negotiations. Also, I disagree that Spence vs. Crawford will be this year if October schedule is not confirmed. I speculate that it might be on 2023 or 2024.

[Oasisman]

Nah! I don't honestly think that Spence Jr. would accept a 40% cut of the purse, he's been already vocal about it that he should have the bigger slice as he has more belt in the table and I think Crawford will happily get that 40% though just to make the fight happen because if this drags again then Crawford will be on the disadvantage.

There is no official news released that both parties are disagreeing with the cut. Maybe there are other things that it's not allowed to share in public for now about what's the current score, progress, and status of the negotiation of this fight as it might affect the pre-planned working deals. Just come to think of it, both boxers are desired to face each other and they are very vocal about their anticipated match.

Whether on what part they are still not agreeing, that will surely be settled as they progress.

I guess Crawford has no reason to decline this fight to happen on October or this year (maybe). On his statement he said he is free whatever he wants and that is no relevant reason for this fight to happen anytime. Crawford is more than ready for this.
Now, if something's holding up for this fight to happen sooner, I think that should be on Spence's end.

[Baofeng]

^^ Well Floyd has a obvious hidden agenda to tell us that there is negotiations, because he wanted Crawford to be his manager. And maybe if Bud Crawford will sign with him, then that is the time that this fight is going to be made, hehehe. But still the fight can still be made in October, we still have 3 months of it and many things can happen along the way to put this fight in schedule at least for this year.

There might be some truth in what Floyd Mayweather is speculating despite having a hidden agenda, however. He might have information of the sensitive occurrences in those negotiations. Also, I disagree that Spence vs. Crawford will be this year if October schedule is not confirmed. I speculate that it might be on 2023 or 2024.

Could be, but it will be definitely Floyd hand has some "blessings" in this fight. Him and Crawford in public together? hmmm your guess is as good as mine. Maybe not direct manager per se, but Crawford might be asking for some advise  from him. And if everything is not settled within the time frame, then maybe next year is the schedule and it could be in Floyd's backyard of Las Vegas. And imagine the money that is going to flow on fight night, casino's, hotels everyone will be making money out of this mega fight.

[btc_angela]

^^ Well Floyd has a obvious hidden agenda to tell us that there is negotiations, because he wanted Crawford to be his manager. And maybe if Bud Crawford will sign with him, then that is the time that this fight is going to be made, hehehe. But still the fight can still be made in October, we still have 3 months of it and many things can happen along the way to put this fight in schedule at least for this year.

There might be some truth in what Floyd Mayweather is speculating despite having a hidden agenda, however. He might have information of the sensitive occurrences in those negotiations. Also, I disagree that Spence vs. Crawford will be this year if October schedule is not confirmed. I speculate that it might be on 2023 or 2024.

Could be, but it will be definitely Floyd hand has some "blessings" in this fight. Him and Crawford in public together? hmmm your guess is as good as might. Maybe not direct manager per se, but Crawford might be asking for some advise  from him. And if everything is not settled within the time frame, then maybe next year is the schedule and it could be in Floyd's backyard of Las Vegas. And imagine the money that is going to flow on fight night, casino's, hotels everyone will be making money out of this mega fight.

So that's how powerful Floyd, a power broker in boxing. Obviously he has make a name for himself and that's where the respect is coming from, undefeated, the richest boxer in history.

But all we wanted to see is this fight happening, I mean no need to delay. And of all the boxers, Floyd should know how big the money is in the table right now so no need to delay. And if he wanted the fight happen to his home town I guess there will be no problem for both.

[Ziskinberg]

^^ Well Floyd has a obvious hidden agenda to tell us that there is negotiations, because he wanted Crawford to be his manager. And maybe if Bud Crawford will sign with him, then that is the time that this fight is going to be made, hehehe. But still the fight can still be made in October, we still have 3 months of it and many things can happen along the way to put this fight in schedule at least for this year.

There might be some truth in what Floyd Mayweather is speculating despite having a hidden agenda, however. He might have information of the sensitive occurrences in those negotiations. Also, I disagree that Spence vs. Crawford will be this year if October schedule is not confirmed. I speculate that it might be on 2023 or 2024.

Could be, but it will be definitely Floyd hand has some "blessings" in this fight. Him and Crawford in public together? hmmm your guess is as good as might. Maybe not direct manager per se, but Crawford might be asking for some advise  from him. And if everything is not settled within the time frame, then maybe next year is the schedule and it could be in Floyd's backyard of Las Vegas. And imagine the money that is going to flow on fight night, casino's, hotels everyone will be making money out of this mega fight.

So that's how powerful Floyd, a power broker in boxing. Obviously he has make a name for himself and that's where the respect is coming from, undefeated, the richest boxer in history.

But all we wanted to see is this fight happening, I mean no need to delay. And of all the boxers, Floyd should know how big the money is in the table right now so no need to delay. And if he wanted the fight happen to his home town I guess there will be no problem for both.

Delay is not good, if Floyd would use his strategy that he only fought Pacman when he is not in his prime anymore, I hope that would not happen here. Both boxers are in their prime, the fans deserve to see and witness a big fight and know how is the better between the two fighters.

[inthelongrun]

Bob aram is literally why this fight never happened before along with some of the other fights that passed.  Glad the dude is own his own to make these fights happen.  Hopefully more boxers stop combining over money and go the route Crawford is they can chose to fight a guy if they want to no matter the terms.  Was so glad when I heard Bob was off the grid.

I'm not a big fan of Bob especially over the last decade. But let's roll down his scroll to take a look at some of his performance over the years.

Oscar dela Hoya- A 5 division champion. Former number 1 pound for pound by the Ring Magazine.

Floyd Mayweather- Became a 3 division champion during his tenure with Top Rank. A former Ring Magazine number 1 pound for pound. He later left Top Rank and went on to became a 5 division champion.

Manny Pacquiao- He was already a 3 division champion when he joined Top Rank. Under Top Rank he became an 8 division champion and Ring Magazine pound for pound number 1.

Miguel Cotto- 4 division world champion.

Vassily Lomachenko- Was given a title fight in only his 2nd professional fight. Although he lost in a controversial fight, he did became champion in his 3rd professional fight. Currently a 3 division champion. Not sure but I think he also became a pound for pound top 1 by Ring Magazine.

Terrence Crawford- A 3 division world champion. A former number 1 pound for pound by Ring Magazine. Became undisputed champion in super lightweight.

The list can go on for a while but how about Al Haymon's PBC (Errol Spence handler)? I remember when Spence said that he would replace Mayweather jr. after its retirement. But Spence is already 30 and is yet to add another division in his resume.

Is it really Bob Arum that caused Spence and Bud failed to fight each other? Even if this fight won't happen, Bud is already a sure Hall of Famer with his achievement under Top Rank. While Spence current achievement is not enough to even get a nomination in the Hall of Fame.

Obviously, all these promoters are businessmen and perhaps greedy too. But it is a fact that Bob is also willing to a joint promotion even if its main fighters are the underdogs, just like when Pac fought Mayweather and Fury against Wilder II. So how about PBC? It seems not willing to risk its main fighters when they're the underdogs?

[Jating]

^^ I guess it's how boxing is right now, or at least in the last 20 years, it is being controlled by few and very powerful men.

It's not just the promoters themselves, but we also have the network wars, like HBO and Showtime, and now DAZN and ESPN.

Al Haymon is very powerful and same as Bob Arum or before that, Don King. So it's a vicious cycle than only few men really benefited.

I guess Bob's careful match making, and that's why he made a lot of champions, and not sure about it, but perhaps it was all in-house championship fights.

[Sanitough]

^^ I guess it's how boxing is right now, or at least in the last 20 years, it is being controlled by few and very powerful men.

It's not just the promoters themselves, but we also have the network wars, like HBO and Showtime, and now DAZN and ESPN.

Al Haymon is very powerful and same as Bob Arum or before that, Don King. So it's a vicious cycle than only few men really benefited.

I guess Bob's careful match making, and that's why he made a lot of champions, and not sure about it, but perhaps it was all in-house championship fights.

Bob has been in the business for decades I believe, so what can you expect? He is already clever enough to ensure that the cash flow will continue, and that includes looking for a fight that his fighter will win so he can continue milking it.

[Kelvinid]

I guess Bob's careful match making, and that's why he made a lot of champions, and not sure about it, but perhaps it was all in-house championship fights.

But not all boxers loved his style, I believe there are plenty of boxing superstars that left his promotion because they are not getting the fights they like. Just like Manny Pacquiao, when he left Bob, he had the full freedom to choose the boxer that he lights to fight, and Manny had already earn more money in a fight since Bob has no more slice of the revenue.

[freedomgo]

Nah! I don't honestly think that Spence Jr. would accept a 40% cut of the purse, he's been already vocal about it that he should have the bigger slice as he has more belt in the table and I think Crawford will happily get that 40% though just to make the fight happen because if this drags again then Crawford will be on the disadvantage.

There is no official news released that both parties are disagreeing with the cut. Maybe there are other things that it's not allowed to share in public for now about what's the current score, progress, and status of the negotiation of this fight as it might affect the pre-planned working deals. Just come to think of it, both boxers are desired to face each other and they are very vocal about their anticipated match.

Whether on what part they are still not agreeing, that will surely be settled as they progress.

As of now, the news is still the same and that they are still on the works to finish their negotiations to make the fight happen somewhere in October. People is already excited for this undisputed fight to happen and we really don't know what's the roadblock this time on why does the both camps is still not come up in terms. I surely hope that they are done talking with the cuts because I think that Crawford is indeed ready to accept that Spence will get the bigger slice of the purse.

[wheelz1200]

Bob aram is literally why this fight never happened before along with some of the other fights that passed.  Glad the dude is own his own to make these fights happen.  Hopefully more boxers stop combining over money and go the route Crawford is they can chose to fight a guy if they want to no matter the terms.  Was so glad when I heard Bob was off the grid.

If that's the case then Terence Crawford should accept without hesitation the much smaller cut. The purpose of fighting Errol Spence is his target for a long and that should be the reason why he should move forward on this fight regardless of how much he will receive as long as it's a reasonable price.

In my posted article before, the reason for the delay announcement is about the split but Crawford makes assurance that it's not that really a problem for them to finally settle a deal. I'm sure what's left to be finalized are all small things to consider.

We just have to wait patiently for the official announcement as it's still several months to go before the fight happened.

I mean I wouldn't just take anything if I was Crawford.  Point being Bob Arum it wasn't always pure dollars and cents, he always wanted to set up fights that would favor a fighter over another.  If Crawford loses he loses interest for ppv fights.  Bob knows that. 

[Baofeng]

I guess Bob's careful match making, and that's why he made a lot of champions, and not sure about it, but perhaps it was all in-house championship fights.

But not all boxers loved his style, I believe there are plenty of boxing superstars that left his promotion because they are not getting the fights they like. Just like Manny Pacquiao, when he left Bob, he had the full freedom to choose the boxer that he lights to fight, and Manny had already earn more money in a fight since Bob has no more slice of the revenue.

If I'm not mistaken, Bob let Pacquiao go, I guess Arum really knows that Manny is already way past his prime. But Pacquiao prove otherwise, winning against Thurman, but that was his last straw. And maybe Arum is right for not signing Manny anymore. As he can build someone to become a champion and make money for them, he can also destroy one's career.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2012/03/18/costly-error-by-gamboa/

Gamboa had agreed to face Rios in what was a highly anticipated matchup of young lions, only to suddenly refuse to even attend a series of press conferences around the country to hype the fight. Instead he was silently training at Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s gym in Las Vegas, leading to wide speculation that he intended to jump from Arum to Mayweather’s promotional company.

Not surprisingly, HBO pulled the plug on Rios when it became obvious Gamboa had no intention of fighting. Arum is now doing the same on Gamboa, filing a suit against him in federal court in Nevada for breach of contract alleging he has full paperwork indicated that Gamboa (20-0, 16 KOs) had agreed to the bout’s terms and was still under exclusive promotional contract with Arum. In addition to Gamboa, Arum is also suing a number of unnamed promoters alleging tortuous interference with his contract. Arum’s suit also claims Gamboa accepted $70,000 in advances against the purse after signing for the fight.

And then his career was put to a stop, and after he was cleared to box, he was just a shell of his old self and never reaches the pinnacle of his career.

[chaser15]

I mean I wouldn't just take anything if I was Crawford.  Point being Bob Arum it wasn't always pure dollars and cents, he always wanted to set up fights that would favor a fighter over another.  If Crawford loses he loses interest for ppv fights.  Bob knows that. 

But on the promotion side, with Bob Arum's power and influence, he can really make a boxing match always sold out since he knows how to play the business.

Unfortunately, the reason why he kept Terence Crawford against a much more dominant boxer is because of money but Crawford also benefited from what Arum did to him in terms of decent contract = money. Crawford bags lots during his tenure with Arum.

Now that Crawford stays away from Arum's shadow, I'm pretty sure that there's no problem with him anything about the purse split. It's now up to Spence to say the final deal. But since the information was limited on the news, we are just guessing things here why the fight isn't officially announced yet. I hope soon they will release at least a small important information.

[agustina2]

Just like Manny Pacquiao, when he left Bob, he had the full freedom to choose the boxer that he lights to fight, and Manny had already earn more money in a fight since Bob has no more slice of the revenue.

The majority of Manny Pacquiao's fights under Top Rank Promotions owned by Bob Arum are mostly title defense match, or if not, considered good match.

And on top of that, Pacquiao always guaranteed with a big pot regardless if he's taking the 40% of the purse split. I don't fully see that Pacquiao's journey under Bob Arum is a nightmare compare to Crawford.

Totally different to Terence Crawford that most fights are not that hyped or big one. So far his fight with Spence Jr. is the biggest match of his career that just turned into reality because he stay away from Bob Arum.

[Kemarit]

Just like Manny Pacquiao, when he left Bob, he had the full freedom to choose the boxer that he lights to fight, and Manny had already earn more money in a fight since Bob has no more slice of the revenue.

The majority of Manny Pacquiao's fights under Top Rank Promotions owned by Bob Arum are mostly title defense match, or if not, considered good match.

Or in house fights, so win win for Bob.

And on top of that, Pacquiao always guaranteed with a big pot regardless if he's taking the 40% of the purse split. I don't fully see that Pacquiao's journey under Bob Arum is a nightmare compare to Crawford.

It's probably the era though, and at that time Bob had the best fighters in his backyard and that he can match with Pacquiao that's what Manny is always the A-side in negotiations and taking the lion share of the split.

Totally different to Terence Crawford that most fights are not that hyped or big one. So far his fight with Spence Jr. is the biggest match of his career that just turned into reality because he stay away from Bob Arum.

Again, it's probably the timing, in Crawford's reign, 140-147 lbs challengers, with good resume and names are no longer in Bob Arum's Top Rank. So he has to fight scrap fighters in that division that is being handle by Top Rank and it really look bad for Crawford. As fighters like Porter (who both of them beat), Danny Garcia, Thurman and of course Spence are all in PBC under Al Haymon.

Comparing that to Manny's reign wherein Top Rank has Cotto, Margarito, Bradley, Algieri, Rios, JMM, Clottey, MAB, Erik Morales etc..