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August 09, 2022, 02:59:15 PM
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That's what Crawford should agree, this is a big fight but he is not in the position to demand a split purse, getting 40% is big enough though because if he wins, sure this is not going to be his last fight and he will be having big fights in the future which could potentially bring him more money.

Yeah! is aiming for profit in the future and in this fight, you won't know who could win it until they begin to fight inside the ring and Crawford has the chance to snatch the win Spence as well. If that's what happened, then his plan will be successful because what comes after that is multiple offers and he will call the split percentage earnings in his next fight. Right now, his focus should be on the fight and he really needs to come up with a good strategy to beat Spence.

I'm sure he is capable of beating Spence, but the most important is that he should accept what Spence likes for now because he is at the top. I believe Crawford receiving a lower percentage of the total purse and revenue is the only way this fight would happen.

I agree, it's all on Crawford. If he really wanted to make this fight happen, he needs to adjust and accept whatever Spence demands

though both are champions and the cut might be negotiate they just need to meet somewhere not in between as Spence wanted the bigger slice

and for the fight to happen, Crawford should make a statement to force Spence to sit and sign the contract.
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August 09, 2022, 09:03:09 PM
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Any wild forecast and news about the status of this fight?

According to my backread here, seems no good progress till now and everyone is still hanging.

Or I just miss some news that there's progress now? Can anyone share it?

Yes, seems that there is no progress in their must awaited fight and we aren't that sure yet that this fight will really materialize this year. If we search for updates or progress about the Spence-Crawford fight on the internet, we can see that there are new articles that have surfaced but the bottom line is that the fight is still in the works.

Crawford must do something if he's eager to have a fight this year before he gets inactive for a year now. About that, he said that he's looking forward to fighting Jermell Charlo if this undisputed bout won't go through this year.

Yes, seems that there is no really fresh news around about the progress of the fight. I also did my own research of mine but like anyone else, I don't see such big news or even a hint from anywhere that the fight is really closed to happening. Regarding your last statement, I also read elsewhere before that the name Jermell Charlo is being linked to Terence Crawford but since there's no news or even speculation that Crawford will take Charlo instead, therefore the negotiation with Spence's Camp is still underdoing.

The speculation of this fight is set to date on September or October, right? We can now disregard the chances of the fight happening next month. October still has a chance if the negotiations will be successfully take place this month. The worst is, no news until the end of the year lol.

There is now news about Terence Crawford going against Jermell Charlo in the higher division for now but Crawford said that he might go if he will sense that this undergoing discussion with Spence's camp won't be certain in the weeks to come, for now let's just hope that this fight will really happen because we really waited for this to happen and this is the nearest case we had.

Yes, their fight is said to happen somewhere in October in Las Vegas but that is just an if for now as we don't have any news regarding this undisputed fight.

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August 10, 2022, 02:34:23 AM
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^^ If I'm not mistaken, it was Spence who said that if this fight fell off, he might go up to 154 pounds and fight Charlo for his belt, they are close though, so this fight is going to be in intriguing match up.

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/errol-spence-jr-ill-fight-jermell-charlo-if-the-money-is-right/qjic7626975v1ougby4lhrgsq

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As for a fight with Charlo: “I think so. If it makes money, why not?

“We’re brothers, so brothers are supposed to break bread. We’ll cross that bridge.

Well there's nothing wrong with Crawford moving up to 154 pounds as well, but I think he will be too small on that division.

Anyway, let's do hope that this fight will happen, whether 147 or 154 pounds.

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August 10, 2022, 06:59:49 AM
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^^ If I'm not mistaken, it was Spence who said that if this fight fell off, he might go up to 154 pounds and fight Charlo for his belt, they are close though, so this fight is going to be in intriguing match up.

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/errol-spence-jr-ill-fight-jermell-charlo-if-the-money-is-right/qjic7626975v1ougby4lhrgsq

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As for a fight with Charlo: “I think so. If it makes money, why not?

“We’re brothers, so brothers are supposed to break bread. We’ll cross that bridge.

Well there's nothing wrong with Crawford moving up to 154 pounds as well, but I think he will be too small on that division.

Anyway, let's do hope that this fight will happen, whether 147 or 154 pounds.
Probably he wanted a money fight, so whatever division he is willing to take the call and fight.

But fans are surely waiting for Spence vs Crawford to happen. It's more exciting seeing both champs inside the same ring
and fighting each other, a matchup that has been waiting and still aiming to take place.

Let's wait for any update and see if Crawford will be moving or will stay on his original weight..
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August 10, 2022, 12:36:14 PM
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^^ If I'm not mistaken, it was Spence who said that if this fight fell off, he might go up to 154 pounds and fight Charlo for his belt, they are close though, so this fight is going to be in intriguing match up.

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/errol-spence-jr-ill-fight-jermell-charlo-if-the-money-is-right/qjic7626975v1ougby4lhrgsq

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As for a fight with Charlo: “I think so. If it makes money, why not?

“We’re brothers, so brothers are supposed to break bread. We’ll cross that bridge.

Well there's nothing wrong with Crawford moving up to 154 pounds as well, but I think he will be too small on that division.

Anyway, let's do hope that this fight will happen, whether 147 or 154 pounds.
Probably he wanted a money fight, so whatever division he is willing to take the call and fight.

But fans are surely waiting for Spence vs Crawford to happen. It's more exciting seeing both champs inside the same ring
and fighting each other, a matchup that has been waiting and still aiming to take place.

Let's wait for any update and see if Crawford will be moving or will stay on his original weight..

It will depend on the outcome of the negotiations, and as of this time, it seems everyone is so quiet and we haven't heard any update from either side.

And so this two might have a plan B if ever this fight slide off for the meantime. There will be no challenge for either though, maybe Thurman or Vergil Ortiz but fans wanted this two to fight and unify the belts and make this a super fight.

Charlo vs Spence will also be very good and this is a very fascinating fight at 154 lbs.

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August 10, 2022, 02:16:52 PM
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^^ If I'm not mistaken, it was Spence who said that if this fight fell off, he might go up to 154 pounds and fight Charlo for his belt, they are close though, so this fight is going to be in intriguing match up.

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/errol-spence-jr-ill-fight-jermell-charlo-if-the-money-is-right/qjic7626975v1ougby4lhrgsq

That was the time when there's no clear chance that he will fight Crawford. But on the other hand, Crawford also like to face Charlo at 154 lbs. If they have the same target and if these Crawford vs Spence won't be organized officially, I wonder who will face Jermell Charlo.

It's just a waste moment for me that we will not see this big fight if ever things not worked out properly. I don't see any reason why this fight should not happened. Spence even mentioned before that there's no thing on their way for this fight not to happened. Crawford on the other hand has also the same view that his fight against Spence will really happened.

But even both boxers are positive that their fight will soon happened, we still don't see any good news about the progress of this fight.

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August 10, 2022, 02:23:23 PM
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^^ If I'm not mistaken, it was Spence who said that if this fight fell off, he might go up to 154 pounds and fight Charlo for his belt, they are close though, so this fight is going to be in intriguing match up.

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/errol-spence-jr-ill-fight-jermell-charlo-if-the-money-is-right/qjic7626975v1ougby4lhrgsq

That was the time when there's no clear chance that he will fight Crawford. But on the other hand, Crawford also like to face Charlo at 154 lbs. If they have the same target and if these Crawford vs Spence won't be organized officially, I wonder who will face Jermell Charlo.

It's just a waste moment for me that we will not see this big fight if ever things not worked out properly. I don't see any reason why this fight should not happened. Spence even mentioned before that there's no thing on their way for this fight not to happened. Crawford on the other hand has also the same view that his fight against Spence will really happened.

But even both boxers are positive that their fight will soon happened, we still don't see any good news about the progress of this fight.

Spence should stop making excuses, he should focus on his fight with Crawford and make sure it will happen his year. There's no reason that they will move when one of them cannot be an undisputed champion, I hope they will not be greedy, it's time to give the fans what we are hoping to see.
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August 10, 2022, 02:31:01 PM
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Spence should stop making excuses, he should focus on his fight with Crawford and make sure it will happen his year. There's no reason that they will move when one of them cannot be an undisputed champion, I hope they will not be greedy, it's time to give the fans what we are hoping to see.

If you're not aware, Spence has been ducking elite opponent and are only fighting when he know he can dominate.
This fight against Crawford, nothing is standing on their way or something that'll hold on for this fight to happen.
Crawford is always ready to fight as soon as possible. But look, why does this match has not been set yet?
I'm wondering what is holding this time after Crawford announced that there's no promotion company that's holding him back and he's free whatever he wants and whoever he wants to fight. Obviously, it would be Spence.
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August 10, 2022, 06:08:07 PM
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Anyways, this is the fresh update we got so far:

Errol Spence Vs. Terence Crawford Near Completion For Nov.12th Or Nov.19th

This catch my attention in the article: "There’s no word what the purse splits are for Spence & Crawford, and it’s possible we may never find out."



If you're not aware, Spence has been ducking elite opponent and are only fighting when he know he can dominate.
This fight against Crawford, nothing is standing on their way or something that'll hold on for this fight to happen.
Crawford is always ready to fight as soon as possible. But look, why does this match has not been set yet?
I'm wondering what is holding this time after Crawford announced that there's no promotion company that's holding him back and he's free whatever he wants and whoever he wants to fight. Obviously, it would be Spence.

We can apply your statement about Spence maybe before but from what I see this time, Spence and Crawford will really make this happened for real. It's just that we are clueless about the progress and both camps are also silent about that.

If Spence is really doing some attempt to avoid this blockbuster unification fight against Crawford, we should already see some trashtalks from Crawford by now about Spence doing some shitty things to not let their fight happened. We know Crawford and won't hesitate to tell the public if Spence is doing some actions to delay the fight. Telling the public about it will give pressure to Spence but Crawford is just silent too.

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August 10, 2022, 09:02:04 PM
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Spence should stop making excuses, he should focus on his fight with Crawford and make sure it will happen his year. There's no reason that they will move when one of them cannot be an undisputed champion, I hope they will not be greedy, it's time to give the fans what we are hoping to see.

I'm not aware that Spence is doing excuses for this fight not to happened. Both sides are even silent.

Are you talking about today's negotiation and Spence is doing excuses? Or you are referring to the previous attempts to organize this fight?

If you are referring to Spence's excuses in today's negotiations, can you provide a link for that? I tried to search for it but found nothing. What I see is only a lack of information about the status of this fight and that article shared above.
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August 10, 2022, 10:52:37 PM
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Charlo vs Spence will also be very good and this is a very fascinating fight at 154 lbs.

Jermell Charlo against either Errol Spence Jr or Terence Crawford is really good to watch too. We are talking about all big names here. But before deciding to move up a weight class, it's necessary for Spence and Crawford to finish the business first at 147lbs.

That's the only thing left they need to achieve, to become undisputed at 147lbs. I like Jermell Charlo not showing any interest between Spence and Crawford, for now, since one of these two should be the Welterweight King first before they moved up to face him.

It's also not possible for either Spence and Crawford to face Charlo if their fight failed to negotiate as Charlo already has an upcoming match in January next year.
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August 10, 2022, 10:58:01 PM
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That's what Crawford should agree, this is a big fight but he is not in the position to demand a split purse, getting 40% is big enough though because if he wins, sure this is not going to be his last fight and he will be having big fights in the future which could potentially bring him more money.

Yeah! is aiming for profit in the future and in this fight, you won't know who could win it until they begin to fight inside the ring and Crawford has the chance to snatch the win Spence as well. If that's what happened, then his plan will be successful because what comes after that is multiple offers and he will call the split percentage earnings in his next fight. Right now, his focus should be on the fight and he really needs to come up with a good strategy to beat Spence.

I'm sure he is capable of beating Spence, but the most important is that he should accept what Spence likes for now because he is at the top. I believe Crawford receiving a lower percentage of the total purse and revenue is the only way this fight would happen.

I'm certain though that Crawford is not demanding too much because he knows that Spence holds the table for that as he has 3 belts in his possession while Crawford only has 1 belt. Crawford only wanted this fight to happen this year because he is not getting any younger, I don't think he also care that Spence will have that bigger slice of the cake.

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August 10, 2022, 10:59:41 PM
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Charlo vs Spence will also be very good and this is a very fascinating fight at 154 lbs.

Jermell Charlo against either Errol Spence Jr or Terence Crawford is really good to watch too. We are talking about all big names here. But before deciding to move up a weight class, it's necessary for Spence and Crawford to finish the business first at 147lbs.

That's the only thing left they need to achieve, to become undisputed at 147lbs. I like Jermell Charlo not showing any interest between Spence and Crawford, for now, since one of these two should be the Welterweight King first before they moved up to face him.

It's also not possible for either Spence and Crawford to face Charlo if their fight failed to negotiate as Charlo already has an upcoming match in January next year.

after all these long discussions about spence & crawford fight, it may not happen for so many reasons from both camps. i do agree that before either one of them will move up to a higher weight class, they need to settle first their business at 147. we don't know exactly which one is causing this not to happen, but if they do really want this to happen, they will find a way to push thru this match.

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August 10, 2022, 11:13:05 PM
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Charlo vs Spence will also be very good and this is a very fascinating fight at 154 lbs.

Jermell Charlo against either Errol Spence Jr or Terence Crawford is really good to watch too. We are talking about all big names here. But before deciding to move up a weight class, it's necessary for Spence and Crawford to finish the business first at 147lbs.

That's the only thing left they need to achieve, to become undisputed at 147lbs. I like Jermell Charlo not showing any interest between Spence and Crawford, for now, since one of these two should be the Welterweight King first before they moved up to face him.

It's also not possible for either Spence and Crawford to face Charlo if their fight failed to negotiate as Charlo already has an upcoming match in January next year.

after all these long discussions about spence & crawford fight, it may not happen for so many reasons from both camps. i do agree that before either one of them will move up to a higher weight class, they need to settle first their business at 147. we don't know exactly which one is causing this not to happen, but if they do really want this to happen, they will find a way to push thru this match.

Yeah but it seems that someone wanted to derail this fight again for many reasons. And maybe that's where their supposedly plan B is already moving rounds on the media as to who is their opponents in 147 or 154.

Fans are initially very happy that finally a mega fight at 147 lbs will happen, for unification fight. And I guess this is the first time after many years that he will see this kind of magnitude, all the belts in the line. But long as what is happening right now, seems the fight negotiation is not moving.

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^^ If I'm not mistaken, it was Spence who said that if this fight fell off, he might go up to 154 pounds and fight Charlo for his belt, they are close though, so this fight is going to be in intriguing match up.

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/errol-spence-jr-ill-fight-jermell-charlo-if-the-money-is-right/qjic7626975v1ougby4lhrgsq

That was the time when there's no clear chance that he will fight Crawford. But on the other hand, Crawford also like to face Charlo at 154 lbs. If they have the same target and if these Crawford vs Spence won't be organized officially, I wonder who will face Jermell Charlo.

It's just a waste moment for me that we will not see this big fight if ever things not worked out properly. I don't see any reason why this fight should not happened. Spence even mentioned before that there's no thing on their way for this fight not to happened. Crawford on the other hand has also the same view that his fight against Spence will really happened.

But even both boxers are positive that their fight will soon happened, we still don't see any good news about the progress of this fight.

Spence should stop making excuses, he should focus on his fight with Crawford and make sure it will happen his year. There's no reason that they will move when one of them cannot be an undisputed champion, I hope they will not be greedy, it's time to give the fans what we are hoping to see.

From what I read, Spence says that he doesn't need Crawford because he has cemented his legacy. He has 3 belts, has better resume that Crawford, can generated huge PPV numbers and other reasons (excuses?).

Nevertheless, I would agree that to really put your name in the 147 lbs, he needs to get all the belts under his waist and call him the best. Otherwise, it will be a big question mark on his career, a big what if scenario if he decided not to chase Crawford anymore.

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August 11, 2022, 04:19:40 AM
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^^ If I'm not mistaken, it was Spence who said that if this fight fell off, he might go up to 154 pounds and fight Charlo for his belt, they are close though, so this fight is going to be in intriguing match up.

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/errol-spence-jr-ill-fight-jermell-charlo-if-the-money-is-right/qjic7626975v1ougby4lhrgsq

That was the time when there's no clear chance that he will fight Crawford. But on the other hand, Crawford also like to face Charlo at 154 lbs. If they have the same target and if these Crawford vs Spence won't be organized officially, I wonder who will face Jermell Charlo.

It's just a waste moment for me that we will not see this big fight if ever things not worked out properly. I don't see any reason why this fight should not happened. Spence even mentioned before that there's no thing on their way for this fight not to happened. Crawford on the other hand has also the same view that his fight against Spence will really happened.

But even both boxers are positive that their fight will soon happened, we still don't see any good news about the progress of this fight.

Spence should stop making excuses, he should focus on his fight with Crawford and make sure it will happen his year. There's no reason that they will move when one of them cannot be an undisputed champion, I hope they will not be greedy, it's time to give the fans what we are hoping to see.

From what I read, Spence says that he doesn't need Crawford because he has cemented his legacy. He has 3 belts, has better resume that Crawford, can generated huge PPV numbers and other reasons (excuses?).

Nevertheless, I would agree that to really put your name in the 147 lbs, he needs to get all the belts under his waist and call him the best. Otherwise, it will be a big question mark on his career, a big what if scenario if he decided not to chase Crawford anymore.
Spence will fight Jermell if the money is right. I even doubt Spence fights his close friend unless there's a fallout. While both Spence and Jermell are promoted by PBC, it is Crawford that has an easier route to fight Jermell as a WBO welterweight champ privilege unless the undisputed champ vacates his WBO belt which is very possible too.

As for Spence's legacy. He only got 3 belts in a single division. He is not even the lineal and Ring champ. That resume is not enough to enter the Hall of Fame. Crawford's resume is the one that has HoF credentials being a 3 division champion, 2 division lineal and Ring champion, and former undisputed champion.

Will Spence got the balls to fight Crawford for a chance to become an undisputed champ? Or will Spence continue to block Crawford's chance to become the first ever 2 division undisputed champion in this 4-belt era? And there's Spence's friend the undisputed champion Jermell Charlo already saying in public that he will not give Crawford a shot at his undisputed belts. It should not be that hard to see who's the guy clearly chasing a legendary status in boxing.

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Yeah but it seems that someone wanted to derail this fight again for many reasons. And maybe that's where their supposedly plan B is already moving rounds on the media as to who is their opponents in 147 or 154.

Fans are initially very happy that finally a mega fight at 147 lbs will happen, for unification fight. And I guess this is the first time after many years that he will see this kind of magnitude, all the belts in the line. But long as what is happening right now, seems the fight negotiation is not moving.
No update yet in terms of what might be the progress of the negotiations between these two camps.

Still positive that Spence will also adjust aside from how Crawford is willing to do his part, fans will surely enjoy once
there's update from the camp of both Crawford and Spence..

Still a rolling negotiations and still unsure if the fight will take place or both will move to an alternative option to avoid
fighting with each other.
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August 11, 2022, 02:59:09 PM
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^^ If I'm not mistaken, it was Spence who said that if this fight fell off, he might go up to 154 pounds and fight Charlo for his belt, they are close though, so this fight is going to be in intriguing match up.

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/errol-spence-jr-ill-fight-jermell-charlo-if-the-money-is-right/qjic7626975v1ougby4lhrgsq

That was the time when there's no clear chance that he will fight Crawford. But on the other hand, Crawford also like to face Charlo at 154 lbs. If they have the same target and if these Crawford vs Spence won't be organized officially, I wonder who will face Jermell Charlo.

It's just a waste moment for me that we will not see this big fight if ever things not worked out properly. I don't see any reason why this fight should not happened. Spence even mentioned before that there's no thing on their way for this fight not to happened. Crawford on the other hand has also the same view that his fight against Spence will really happened.

But even both boxers are positive that their fight will soon happened, we still don't see any good news about the progress of this fight.

Yes, there's indeed no reason why this fight won't materialize this year because both boxers are already free and they both need each other to be an undisputed boxer in the welterweight division. Crawford waited for this fight for a long time now and Spence himself said that he will go and grab Crawford's belt next, I wonder why it takes really long for this fight to be announced. People are already anxious about this, I hope the fans, uncluding us here won't be left hanging because of the expectation.

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August 11, 2022, 11:06:52 PM
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From what I read, Spence says that he doesn't need Crawford because he has cemented his legacy. He has 3 belts, has better resume that Crawford, can generated huge PPV numbers and other reasons (excuses?).

Nevertheless, I would agree that to really put your name in the 147 lbs, he needs to get all the belts under his waist and call him the best. Otherwise, it will be a big question mark on his career, a big what if scenario if he decided not to chase Crawford anymore.

Maybe the legacy means for Spence is Money > Fame lol.

It's like no threats should be risks to maintain and continue the benefits he is getting on his current status. If ever lose to a possible threat, all those will be gone and he needs to start doing some efforts to get back on track.

Either way, I think that would not be the case here, I hope so, and Spence will go all out to face Crawford.

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Maybe the legacy means for Spence is Money > Fame lol.

It's like no threats should be risks to maintain and continue the benefits he is getting on his current status. If ever lose to a possible threat, all those will be gone and he needs to start doing some efforts to get back on track.

Either way, I think that would not be the case here, I hope so, and Spence will go all out to face Crawford.

If there's a pressure coming from those who are handling the money making process, Spence and his camp

might take a look at it and consider the offer, though we don't have any update yet or maybe they are really playing it well
for more fans, to be eager to call for these fights to happen.

More free advertisement from streamers and social media influencers calling for these two to meet inside the ring will
generate more interest and more money, both from the boxing and gambling industries.
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