[Boxing] Crawford vs Spence

[LUCKMCFLY]

Danny Garcia might say that Spence is better than Crawford, but I would believe more on Shawn Porter who faced both boxers and IIRC, Porter said that Crawford is the better fighter, so maybe if we listen to this guy, we will have a good basis and we will not be biased.

Yep, obviously. I'm also in favour of what Porter said.
Based on his fight for both Crawford and Spence, I can say Crawford have a better and effective plan against Porter's aggressiveness. We all knew Porter's style of play, Crawford executed very well to deliver that knock out.
While on the other hand, with his fight against Spence, i can say that was really a close one. Without that round 11 quick knock down, Porter could've won it.

Well apart from those things, I think that this time Crawford is much more hungry for victory and this is something that when a boxer is clear about it he would do anything to achieve it, to see Crawford how everything has gone, in his training and everything could I clearly said that Crawford, even if his body fails him, will not give up, maybe Spence has a better level in every way right now, but sometimes the desire can overcome anything, and above all the perseverance that he has had Crawford, I'm sure he's not going to waste the opportunity around the world, plus Crawford is much more complete and wants to show what he's made of.

Maybe they are also on the process or discussion on how to maximize their profits and make the fight bigger than mega-fight as an undisputed fight is really rare to happen in the boxing industry, also, I happen to read somewhere that Spence's camp is asking for Crawford's camp to help Spence sell and market the fight as he couldn't carry all the load even if he is the king of PPV. Don't know if it's really true but both of them should really try to sell the fight even if they know that their fight is much anticipated.

They share the obligation but I'm curious since both fighters are top calibers and their names already have market value.

I don't see any needs of selling as in one formal announcement of this possible fight fans will be there to support, especially the gambling industry

Exerting more effort into the marketing will help them sell more, more PPV and gate entrance means more money, and probably more sponsorship as well. This is an anticipated fight and it could only happen once, so they have to take this opportunity to make more money.

In this case I think that the profits for both boxers should be high, regardless of the results that are given, the fans need to see this fight and put the respective bets on the table, both Crawford and Spence would not mind some good money, many say that the favorite is Spence, however I think that Crawford will not let himself win so easily, Crawford's preparation must be very hard because the statistics and probabilities are favoring Spence and obviously Crawford wants to change that vision, he wants to recover all his level and not only beat Spence, but also wants to win every fight that comes his way from here on out, but this fight is very important.

[stadus]

I'm still waiting for the announcement if they have already reached an agreement. It's been weeks but still no report from the media. I hope they will reach an agreement soon, perhaps this coming ber months. I don't why Terence Crawford is hard to get regarding the percentage of the money. If I'm Crawford I'll humbly ask 40-60 of the money, beat the shit out of Spence, demand a rematch then appeal for a 70-30 on the contract, ez money. 

We have seen the updates already, although not official, but it is a reliable and good source as where the negotiations is heading. It not Terrence Crawford that is trying to 'hard to get', in my opinion it is Spence, because he has 3 belts and he believed he is the A-side, between the two. And all have been speculating that the money split is 60-40 in favor of Spence, and Crawford is ok with that 40. But then again, we might never know that real split until the fight is made, and the numbers goes public.

For now, let's leave it like that, the fight could happen in the second or third week of November and Spence getting the biggest share of the pot. The data might not be available, although I reckon that if the venue is on Las Vegas, the Nevada Athletic Commission might release the numbers after the fight, so we will see. But if it's true that Crawford is willing to accepting the 40% and then maybe look for a bigger purse if there is a rematch.

There's probably a rematch clause on the contract and it depends on how things turn out in the first fight and the purse split could be very much different from the purse split in their first fight, I just feel it should be 50/50 as they are both champions but Spence having three belts is a big reason why he should have the edge and about the A-side, they are both on the A side but after the fight one of them will not be.

Both camps are intelligent enough to include a rematch clause in their deal because this is an undisputed fight and a once in a blue moon mega fight, also a rematch will only be interested to see if the fight will end up in a fair decision but if it's dominated by Spence or Crawford then I think that clause won't be enough to sell the fight big again. I really think that Crawford is already comfortable in his 40% share because of the facts that has been said above and Spence can bring more food to the table.

That is a big possibility for them to have a rematch clause and I guess it's good to include it. Right, the rematch could be very much different, purse split, revenue gates and others.

And it's just we are thinking what keep the fight? they have the date in November, and with this kind of  magnitude, they can get any venue they can get in the America. Last Vegas, Atlantic City anything that has a gambling and huge casino because come fight night there will be a lot of whales who is going to watch and obviously will gamble in any hotel casinos.

I think it's not just a big possibility but surely a rematch clause will be included even though they won't release that kind of detail publicly and because this is an undisputed fight and a mega-fight that both camps wouldn't want to miss especially the golden profits they could reap. Also, the rematch would be much different depending on who will have the most belt, so of course that holder will be at the A-side and it might be Spence or Crawford and the purse split will be different too. Either way, we will know soon as for now they haven't made a public announcement yet.

[Yaunfitda]

Maybe they are also on the process or discussion on how to maximize their profits and make the fight bigger than mega-fight as an undisputed fight is really rare to happen in the boxing industry, also, I happen to read somewhere that Spence's camp is asking for Crawford's camp to help Spence sell and market the fight as he couldn't carry all the load even if he is the king of PPV. Don't know if it's really true but both of them should really try to sell the fight even if they know that their fight is much anticipated.

They share the obligation but I'm curious since both fighters are top calibers and their names already have market value.

I don't see any needs of selling as in one formal announcement of this possible fight fans will be there to support, especially the gambling industry

Exerting more effort into the marketing will help them sell more, more PPV and gate entrance means more money, and probably more sponsorship as well. This is an anticipated fight and it could only happen once, so they have to take this opportunity to make more money.

Trash talking and other form of taunting especially on social media is I think enough for them to gather hype for this match, they are big star already and for sure many of their fans would provably watch this fight because for sure many are interested to see on which of them is the more dominant fighter. Provably there are still ongoing negotiation for this fight to happen and maybe there promoter just want more people to talk about this fight so that they can also get huge revenue for this match up.

There is already a big hype on this fight, I don't see why it will not be push through by promoters at this point. Even casual fans know both fighter are elite and undefeated, so why need to hype it more in the public? revenue for this match up is already guaranteed.

I'm seeing the tickets for the live gate will be a sell out, it's just the matter of PPV as what we have discussed that it's too expensive and because of piracy, the numbers might not be what it is expecting, but still a lot of money for both this fighter.

[btc_angela]

Danny Garcia might say that Spence is better than Crawford, but I would believe more on Shawn Porter who faced both boxers and IIRC, Porter said that Crawford is the better fighter, so maybe if we listen to this guy, we will have a good basis and we will not be biased.

Yep, obviously. I'm also in favour of what Porter said.
Based on his fight for both Crawford and Spence, I can say Crawford have a better and effective plan against Porter's aggressiveness. We all knew Porter's style of play, Crawford executed very well to deliver that knock out.
While on the other hand, with his fight against Spence, i can say that was really a close one. Without that round 11 quick knock down, Porter could've won it.

Well apart from those things, I think that this time Crawford is much more hungry for victory and this is something that when a boxer is clear about it he would do anything to achieve it, to see Crawford how everything has gone, in his training and everything could I clearly said that Crawford, even if his body fails him, will not give up, maybe Spence has a better level in every way right now, but sometimes the desire can overcome anything, and above all the perseverance that he has had Crawford, I'm sure he's not going to waste the opportunity around the world, plus Crawford is much more complete and wants to show what he's made of.

I think it's more of Crawford really wanted to show that he is the best among the best in this welterweight. And I think some of us will agree to that and thinking that Crawford could be the slight favorite in this fight.

So that is also a good form of motivation (and so with Spence). And as discussed, they fought the same fighter in Porter and Crawford win is the most impressive, causing Porter to retire for good in boxing.

[chaser15]

Exerting more effort into the marketing will help them sell more, more PPV and gate entrance means more money, and probably more sponsorship as well. This is an anticipated fight and it could only happen once, so they have to take this opportunity to make more money.

I even think that there's no need for more effort to boost the marketing of this fight. I'm pretty sure that once the ticket sale for this fight is now up for purchase, expect a sold-out within just a few days. The same goes with PPV.

It's the fight that is hoped to happen for years that's why it will be an automatic response for people to hit that buy button to purchase a ticket here.

Marketing is not really a problem. That is something we can't consider a big priority. What we need to know is when will be the official announcement of this fight.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Exerting more effort into the marketing will help them sell more, more PPV and gate entrance means more money, and probably more sponsorship as well. This is an anticipated fight and it could only happen once, so they have to take this opportunity to make more money.

I even think that there's no need for more effort to boost the marketing of this fight. I'm pretty sure that once the ticket sale for this fight is now up for purchase, expect a sold-out within just a few days. The same goes with PPV.

It's the fight that is hoped to happen for years that's why it will be an automatic response for people to hit that buy button to purchase a ticket here.

Marketing is not really a problem. That is something we can't consider a big priority. What we need to know is when will be the official announcement of this fight.

True, and with all the hype already, this is an anticipated match, everyone is talking about it in social media, Twitter, Youtube, IG etc. Just a matter of date as to when the official date will be.

Sell out crowd of about 20,000 people, which some VIP paying as much as 5 digits just to have a better seat for this fight. And so there is no need to market it, the boxers themselves are marketable already. Crawford has been doing some rounds and interviews already as if the fight is already made, but we will have to see and wait for the final words from their promoters or whoever goes to the public to make that big announcement.

[harizen]

Well apart from those things, I think that this time Crawford is much more hungry for victory and this is something that when a boxer is clear about it he would do anything to achieve it, to see Crawford how everything has gone, in his training and everything could I clearly said that Crawford, even if his body fails him, will not give up,

I think being "hungry" is not the appropriate term. It's just that Crawford is the one who clearly chases the legacy over anybody that's why he is aiming to defeat those other title holders. It's not being hungry but part of building a legacy and this fight against Spence will now seal who's the current best Welterweight. It's a must-win for both fighters before considering moving up to face challenges there.

On the other hand, it's not that Spence is not aiming for a win and that was insane to think. He is holding 3 titles just for nothing. He's also a real deal. If Crawford is doing his best on training as you mentioned, the same goes for Spence too.

Won't be an easy fight for both and I'm expecting an intense exchange of blows once they finally faced each other.

[goinmerry]

Exerting more effort into the marketing will help them sell more, more PPV and gate entrance means more money, and probably more sponsorship as well. This is an anticipated fight and it could only happen once, so they have to take this opportunity to make more money.

Marketing is not a problem. Just announced officially that anticipated fight then brace for big sales and probably all tickets will be sold in just a day. This is a blockbuster fight that anyone waits for years. This will probably be the biggest fight this year of all the big fights that happened this year.

Before, it was just a dream and far from being happened. Now, it was close to happening and people's money is just waiting to watch this fight.

I always subscribe to PPV on our local cable channel for that type of event. I hope the price is not high though not expecting it to be cheap. Just between.

[TimeTeller]

Exerting more effort into the marketing will help them sell more, more PPV and gate entrance means more money, and probably more sponsorship as well. This is an anticipated fight and it could only happen once, so they have to take this opportunity to make more money.

Marketing is not a problem. Just announced officially that anticipated fight then brace for big sales and probably all tickets will be sold in just a day. This is a blockbuster fight that anyone waits for years. This will probably be the biggest fight this year of all the big fights that happened this year.

Before, it was just a dream and far from being happened. Now, it was close to happening and people's money is just waiting to watch this fight.

I always subscribe to PPV on our local cable channel for that type of event. I hope the price is not high though not expecting it to be cheap. Just between.

I believe both sides are still checking the pulse of the boxing community.
This can be their biggest paycheck for both boxers, so maybe, they are also careful on when and where this fight will happen.
And also, the arrangements on both camps. The purse split and all the other things attached to it.
This is no ordinary match for both of them. I believe a lot of boxing fans would be willing to pay for this fight.

[Russlenat]

Exerting more effort into the marketing will help them sell more, more PPV and gate entrance means more money, and probably more sponsorship as well. This is an anticipated fight and it could only happen once, so they have to take this opportunity to make more money.

Marketing is not a problem. Just announced officially that anticipated fight then brace for big sales and probably all tickets will be sold in just a day. This is a blockbuster fight that anyone waits for years. This will probably be the biggest fight this year of all the big fights that happened this year.

Before, it was just a dream and far from being happened. Now, it was close to happening and people's money is just waiting to watch this fight.

I always subscribe to PPV on our local cable channel for that type of event. I hope the price is not high though not expecting it to be cheap. Just between.

I believe both sides are still checking the pulse of the boxing community.
This can be their biggest paycheck for both boxers, so maybe, they are also careful on when and where this fight will happen.
And also, the arrangements on both camps. The purse split and all the other things attached to it.
This is no ordinary match for both of them. I believe a lot of boxing fans would be willing to pay for this fight.

They know they will make more money, what they are waiting is to ensure that they will maximize the possible income they can get here. We are only speculating, the money side is already a win-win for both, however, we know that whoever losses this fight, his future might be affected.

[Pamadar]

Exerting more effort into the marketing will help them sell more, more PPV and gate entrance means more money, and probably more sponsorship as well. This is an anticipated fight and it could only happen once, so they have to take this opportunity to make more money.

Marketing is not a problem. Just announced officially that anticipated fight then brace for big sales and probably all tickets will be sold in just a day. This is a blockbuster fight that anyone waits for years. This will probably be the biggest fight this year of all the big fights that happened this year.

Before, it was just a dream and far from being happened. Now, it was close to happening and people's money is just waiting to watch this fight.

I always subscribe to PPV on our local cable channel for that type of event. I hope the price is not high though not expecting it to be cheap. Just between.

I believe both sides are still checking the pulse of the boxing community.
This can be their biggest paycheck for both boxers, so maybe, they are also careful on when and where this fight will happen.
And also, the arrangements on both camps. The purse split and all the other things attached to it.
This is no ordinary match for both of them. I believe a lot of boxing fans would be willing to pay for this fight.

They know they will make more money, what they are waiting is to ensure that they will maximize the possible income they can get here. We are only speculating, the money side is already a win-win for both, however, we know that whoever losses this fight, his future might be affected.

Something that both are trying to figure it out, rumors before that Spence is avoiding Crawford, not sure

if that still exists or if that affects the negotiation, the money side is a win-win for both of them PPV share and the profits from
advertisement and sponsorships are everywhere.

But future wise, both fighters are thinking about the possibilities personally. I see Crawford to be very keen to have a fight
this year, maybe if there's alternative options he will grab it.

[Japinat]

But future wise, both fighters are thinking about the possibilities personally. I see Crawford to be very keen to have a fight
this year, maybe if there's alternative options he will grab it.

What alternative he is looking for? Crawford who is also a champion is challenging him, isn't it good to just accept the challenge and prove to the fans that he is the better fighter? Spence is not a definition of a warrior if he act like that, he should not choose a fight just to remain undefeated.

[Baofeng]

But future wise, both fighters are thinking about the possibilities personally. I see Crawford to be very keen to have a fight
this year, maybe if there's alternative options he will grab it.

What alternative he is looking for? Crawford who is also a champion is challenging him, isn't it good to just accept the challenge and prove to the fans that he is the better fighter? Spence is not a definition of a warrior if he act like that, he should not choose a fight just to remain undefeated.

True, both of this fighters have clean up the 147 lbs division that they have all the belts, Spence 3 and Crawford 1. So it's just about time to see who is the best and cemented their legacy.

Although the options that I can see is that Spence moving up to 154 lbs and face Charlo. Or Crawford going to 140 lbs, maybe get Josh Taylor but not sure if that is marketable enough to make money. The best money fight for this two is for them to get on the same ring.

[harizen]

What alternative he is looking for? Crawford who is also a champion is challenging him, isn't it good to just accept the challenge and prove to the fans that he is the better fighter? Spence is not a definition of a warrior if he act like that, he should not choose a fight just to remain undefeated.

As per speculation and might be close to happening, if Crawford vs Spence won't be materialized, the former will push on the next plan which is to move up and challenge Jermell Charlo. That's a good choice if clearing the Welterweight division is not possible because of unknown reasons.

But since no heavy rumors that this fight between Crawford vs Spence will not happen, let's expect that these boxers won't end up on their Plan B if they will failed to meet this year in the ring. We can expect that in the upcoming weeks, an official announcement will soon be released.

[goinmerry]

But future wise, both fighters are thinking about the possibilities personally. I see Crawford to be very keen to have a fight
this year, maybe if there's alternative options he will grab it.

What alternative he is looking for? Crawford who is also a champion is challenging him, isn't it good to just accept the challenge and prove to the fans that he is the better fighter? Spence is not a definition of a warrior if he act like that, he should not choose a fight just to remain undefeated.

Possibility to go into alternative if nothing officially happened in the negotiations on this match.

This plan started to be raised around June if I'm not mistaken but several months have passed, and still no official news has been provided.

Crawford is catching the age already. If Spence's fight is not possible, he will definitely push for alternatives to his plan.

[carlisle1]

What alternative he is looking for? Crawford who is also a champion is challenging him, isn't it good to just accept the challenge and prove to the fans that he is the better fighter? Spence is not a definition of a warrior if he act like that, he should not choose a fight just to remain undefeated.

As per speculation and might be close to happening, if Crawford vs Spence won't be materialized, the former will push on the next plan which is to move up and challenge Jermell Charlo. That's a good choice if clearing the Welterweight division is not possible because of unknown reasons.

But since no heavy rumors that this fight between Crawford vs Spence will not happen, let's expect that these boxers won't end up on their Plan B if they will failed to meet this year in the ring. We can expect that in the upcoming weeks, an official announcement will soon be released.

It's been some time and still no concluded decision about the possible upcoming fight, maybe if there's no contract signing that will happen

both fighters will continue to chase for another money fight, not sure who's between the two are not willing to take the challenge or what, really

the reason for why negotiation is still no rolling to how fans wanted it to proceed. Until now, everyone is looking for any news or even rumors

if the fight will take place or both fighters will proceed in facing different opponents.

[Japinat]

But future wise, both fighters are thinking about the possibilities personally. I see Crawford to be very keen to have a fight
this year, maybe if there's alternative options he will grab it.

What alternative he is looking for? Crawford who is also a champion is challenging him, isn't it good to just accept the challenge and prove to the fans that he is the better fighter? Spence is not a definition of a warrior if he act like that, he should not choose a fight just to remain undefeated.

True, both of this fighters have clean up the 147 lbs division that they have all the belts, Spence 3 and Crawford 1. So it's just about time to see who is the best and cemented their legacy.

Although the options that I can see is that Spence moving up to 154 lbs and face Charlo. Or Crawford going to 140 lbs, maybe get Josh Taylor but not sure if that is marketable enough to make money. The best money fight for this two is for them to get on the same ring.

I thought that Crawford will be the one climbing 154 lbs. and fight Charlo if ever this fight won't materialize this year and I reckon Crawford said that in his interview regarding the whereabouts of this undisputed match. But we never know because only Spence and Crawford know what's going on behind the curtain but Spence should know that he is getting ugly if this fight drags too long. This undisputed fight has been waited by the public for so long, so they should make it happen.

[stadus]

Maybe they are also on the process or discussion on how to maximize their profits and make the fight bigger than mega-fight as an undisputed fight is really rare to happen in the boxing industry, also, I happen to read somewhere that Spence's camp is asking for Crawford's camp to help Spence sell and market the fight as he couldn't carry all the load even if he is the king of PPV. Don't know if it's really true but both of them should really try to sell the fight even if they know that their fight is much anticipated.

They share the obligation but I'm curious since both fighters are top calibers and their names already have market value.

I don't see any needs of selling as in one formal announcement of this possible fight fans will be there to support, especially the gambling industry

Exerting more effort into the marketing will help them sell more, more PPV and gate entrance means more money, and probably more sponsorship as well. This is an anticipated fight and it could only happen once, so they have to take this opportunity to make more money.

Trash talking and other form of taunting especially on social media is I think enough for them to gather hype for this match, they are big star already and for sure many of their fans would provably watch this fight because for sure many are interested to see on which of them is the more dominant fighter. Provably there are still ongoing negotiation for this fight to happen and maybe there promoter just want more people to talk about this fight so that they can also get huge revenue for this match up.

There is already a big hype on this fight, I don't see why it will not be push through by promoters at this point. Even casual fans know both fighter are elite and undefeated, so why need to hype it more in the public? revenue for this match up is already guaranteed.

I'm seeing the tickets for the live gate will be a sell out, it's just the matter of PPV as what we have discussed that it's too expensive and because of piracy, the numbers might not be what it is expecting, but still a lot of money for both this fighter.

I think the last update regarding this mega-fight in the making was that they are just taking their time finalizing the boxers in the undercards to maximize the profits more. Although there's nothing to worry about the undercards as this undisputed fight between Spence and Crawford will really sell out as the public is already excited about this and it will generate huge revenues that could likely be in the list of biggest revenues generated, but we can't blame them if they want to make sure to maximize the profits because this is a business after all as both promoters pf each camp might not come across fight like these.

[Yaunfitda]

^^ Venue is also very important for this fight, gamblers will come out on the fight week so hotels and casinos will have to take advantage of it. Again, we have seen Crawford and Floyd in the public together and I reckon it could be in Floyd's hometown and for sure Floyd as well might be indirectly making money out of it. Good if they can add good undercard in this fight, but the selling point is still the main fight. Knowing how deep PBC's stable though, maybe they will have another big name to be included here.

[Kelvinid]

^^ Venue is also very important for this fight, gamblers will come out on the fight week so hotels and casinos will have to take advantage of it. Again, we have seen Crawford and Floyd in the public together and I reckon it could be in Floyd's hometown and for sure Floyd as well might be indirectly making money out of it. Good if they can add good undercard in this fight, but the selling point is still the main fight. Knowing how deep PBC's stable though, maybe they will have another big name to be included here.

It would be nice if they will have a good undercard, since it's a big fight, they should entertain the crown with a good undercard. I can't wait to see this fight but until now promoters' have not stated yet the date and venue of the fight. I understand what they are doing, it's probably their marketing trick so people will continue talking about this fight.