[Boxing] Crawford vs Spence

[carlisle1]

The rematch will happen if they are after the money and grant the wish of the fans, regardless of who will win the fight, it's still interesting to see a rematch. I guess let's focus first of the possibility or a chance that this fight will become into reality, and we can talk about a rematch later.

The fight is being the wish of the fans for a long and this fight is likely will generate a big money but still, there are lots of hindrances to making this fight official. It means the possibility of a rematch will have the same status. Definitely, the winner of this fight will now finally move to 154 lbs because that was their respective goal. Crawford will move up if this fight won't materialize while Spence is willing to move up too even not having a fight with Crawford.

See the picture here? They don't bother with each other if this won't really happen.

Going back to the fight, this fight will happen by high chance based on the last article I posted here from a good and reliable source.

I'm hoping it will because it will disappoint us that after we got hyped it will still not gonna happen. At least before they move up in weight, they should give us the fight that we want to see, what's the reason for not fighting each other, for sure not a money problem as you've mentioned they'll make a lot of money here, the only hindrance is they are not real warriors, they are afraid to lose.

It won't base on that last update they are almost on completion and the desire date might be possible this coming October, though

still no finalization but it's moving, and the chance is high now, just some concern that needed to address then it will go smoothly, most fans

are hoping that both fighters will accept the challenge and be the best fighter from this division. Let's see if who's really the tough one and

will continue to have a clean record after this fight.

[virasisog]

The rematch will happen if they are after the money and grant the wish of the fans, regardless of who will win the fight, it's still interesting to see a rematch. I guess let's focus first of the possibility or a chance that this fight will become into reality, and we can talk about a rematch later.

The fight is being the wish of the fans for a long and this fight is likely will generate a big money but still, there are lots of hindrances to making this fight official. It means the possibility of a rematch will have the same status. Definitely, the winner of this fight will now finally move to 154 lbs because that was their respective goal. Crawford will move up if this fight won't materialize while Spence is willing to move up too even not having a fight with Crawford.

See the picture here? They don't bother with each other if this won't really happen.

Going back to the fight, this fight will happen by high chance based on the last article I posted here from a good and reliable source.

I'm hoping it will because it will disappoint us that after we got hyped it will still not gonna happen. At least before they move up in weight, they should give us the fight that we want to see, what's the reason for not fighting each other, for sure not a money problem as you've mentioned they'll make a lot of money here, the only hindrance is they are not real warriors, they are afraid to lose.

It won't base on that last update they are almost on completion and the desire date might be possible this coming October, though

still no finalization but it's moving, and the chance is high now, just some concern that needed to address then it will go smoothly, most fans

are hoping that both fighters will accept the challenge and be the best fighter from this division. Let's see if who's really the tough one and

will continue to have a clean record after this fight.

If they could pursue this match, it will surely be one of the most awaited fights this year and would really make noise. We're all been waiting for exciting matches of huge names in the boxing industry. There have been lots of hindrances but I guess they're already doing all the processes to push this fight later this year.

[Japinat]

We still have plenty of time, and I believe as the fans are calling their attention, they will eventually make an announcement about the finality of the fight.

I know that, but if we don't have a positive development, I'm afraid we will only be left speculating.

Be optimistic my friend, this fight is not rumored for nothing, we are speculating but we must remain positive. The biggest fight this year, possibly, so it will give us the kind of entertainment that we are wanting to see.

Hey @wheelz1200, can I request you put a poll?

I'm sure the votes will be very close.

We are already past the point where the fight is just a rumored one because it was already confirmed that both camps have an ongoing discussion to make the undisputed fight happen much sooner but we can't really say if it will exactly happen in the month where they forecasted it nor will happen this year. I was even surprised that an undisputed fight in the bantamweight division was first officially released.

[freedomgo]

It could have a rematch (even if there is no written clause in the initial contract), if the fight is going to be razor sharp close or maybe even in a draw.

But if it's a convincing win, then maybe not, but if there is a huge money involved then again, they could go and fight one more before going up in weight. So I guess the fans will also have a final say and maybe the promoters are going to take that lead from us if they see a demand for it.

That's true however both sides should secure a rematch clause to make sure that a rematch will happen soon if one will pursue it and so that no one will avoid. There will be demand for sure if the fight is close enough but a rematch won't be possible if one of them starts running after named as the undisputed boxer in welterweight division.

[Pamadar]

It could have a rematch (even if there is no written clause in the initial contract), if the fight is going to be razor sharp close or maybe even in a draw.

But if it's a convincing win, then maybe not, but if there is a huge money involved then again, they could go and fight one more before going up in weight. So I guess the fans will also have a final say and maybe the promoters are going to take that lead from us if they see a demand for it.

That's true however both sides should secure a rematch clause to make sure that a rematch will happen soon if one will pursue it and so that no one will avoid. There will be demand for sure if the fight is close enough but a rematch won't be possible if one of them starts running after named as the undisputed boxer in welterweight division.

And it's possible to happen. We witness that with Mayweather after beating Pacquiao.

Didn't give Pacquiao a rematch to remain undisputed after winning all the belts. Not sure, but in my opinion this is also
been discussed and part of the negotiation.

If the losing side asks for a rematch or secures a rematch, it's a good rivalry to take place, a possible trilogy if in case
both of them win a fight right? looking forward to hear updates regarding to this upcoming fights.

[Kemarit]

The rematch will happen if they are after the money and grant the wish of the fans, regardless of who will win the fight, it's still interesting to see a rematch. I guess let's focus first of the possibility or a chance that this fight will become into reality, and we can talk about a rematch later.

The fight is being the wish of the fans for a long and this fight is likely will generate a big money but still, there are lots of hindrances to making this fight official. It means the possibility of a rematch will have the same status. Definitely, the winner of this fight will now finally move to 154 lbs because that was their respective goal. Crawford will move up if this fight won't materialize while Spence is willing to move up too even not having a fight with Crawford.

See the picture here? They don't bother with each other if this won't really happen.

Going back to the fight, this fight will happen by high chance based on the last article I posted here from a good and reliable source.

I'm hoping it will because it will disappoint us that after we got hyped it will still not gonna happen. At least before they move up in weight, they should give us the fight that we want to see, what's the reason for not fighting each other, for sure not a money problem as you've mentioned they'll make a lot of money here, the only hindrance is they are not real warriors, they are afraid to lose.

It won't base on that last update they are almost on completion and the desire date might be possible this coming October, though

still no finalization but it's moving, and the chance is high now, just some concern that needed to address then it will go smoothly, most fans

are hoping that both fighters will accept the challenge and be the best fighter from this division. Let's see if who's really the tough one and

will continue to have a clean record after this fight.

If they could pursue this match, it will surely be one of the most awaited fights this year and would really make noise. We're all been waiting for exciting matches of huge names in the boxing industry. There have been lots of hindrances but I guess they're already doing all the processes to push this fight later this year.

I don't think there have been a lot of hindrances, if there is, it just boils down to money.

Who will be the A-side, what network is going to cover the fight? So for me this fight could easily be made, but I guess the people behind doesn't want it if the money is not right or at least everyone is not satisfied on how much they are getting. It's September and we haven't heard a thing about it. So it's better that we shouldn't talk it for now, for sure it is really wearing out to hear this fight in public and then nothing is happening from the background.

[Japinat]

The rematch will happen if they are after the money and grant the wish of the fans, regardless of who will win the fight, it's still interesting to see a rematch. I guess let's focus first of the possibility or a chance that this fight will become into reality, and we can talk about a rematch later.

The fight is being the wish of the fans for a long and this fight is likely will generate a big money but still, there are lots of hindrances to making this fight official. It means the possibility of a rematch will have the same status. Definitely, the winner of this fight will now finally move to 154 lbs because that was their respective goal. Crawford will move up if this fight won't materialize while Spence is willing to move up too even not having a fight with Crawford.

See the picture here? They don't bother with each other if this won't really happen.

Going back to the fight, this fight will happen by high chance based on the last article I posted here from a good and reliable source.

I'm hoping it will because it will disappoint us that after we got hyped it will still not gonna happen. At least before they move up in weight, they should give us the fight that we want to see, what's the reason for not fighting each other, for sure not a money problem as you've mentioned they'll make a lot of money here, the only hindrance is they are not real warriors, they are afraid to lose.

It won't base on that last update they are almost on completion and the desire date might be possible this coming October, though

still no finalization but it's moving, and the chance is high now, just some concern that needed to address then it will go smoothly, most fans

are hoping that both fighters will accept the challenge and be the best fighter from this division. Let's see if who's really the tough one and

will continue to have a clean record after this fight.

If they could pursue this match, it will surely be one of the most awaited fights this year and would really make noise. We're all been waiting for exciting matches of huge names in the boxing industry. There have been lots of hindrances but I guess they're already doing all the processes to push this fight later this year.

I don't think there have been a lot of hindrances, if there is, it just boils down to money.

Who will be the A-side, what network is going to cover the fight? So for me this fight could easily be made, but I guess the people behind doesn't want it if the money is not right or at least everyone is not satisfied on how much they are getting. It's September and we haven't heard a thing about it. So it's better that we shouldn't talk it for now, for sure it is really wearing out to hear this fight in public and then nothing is happening from the background.

I guess Spence's camp is not yet satisfied with the estimated figure they could get on this match or it could be Spence trying to stall some time so that his advantage against Crawford will grow. Aside from that, I don't think they are having another trouble that causes this fight not to materialize. We've been speculating this fight since June and now it's already September, yet haven't received any good updates regarding this fight.

[Vaculin]

The rematch will happen if they are after the money and grant the wish of the fans, regardless of who will win the fight, it's still interesting to see a rematch. I guess let's focus first of the possibility or a chance that this fight will become into reality, and we can talk about a rematch later.

The fight is being the wish of the fans for a long and this fight is likely will generate a big money but still, there are lots of hindrances to making this fight official. It means the possibility of a rematch will have the same status. Definitely, the winner of this fight will now finally move to 154 lbs because that was their respective goal. Crawford will move up if this fight won't materialize while Spence is willing to move up too even not having a fight with Crawford.

See the picture here? They don't bother with each other if this won't really happen.

Going back to the fight, this fight will happen by high chance based on the last article I posted here from a good and reliable source.

I'm hoping it will because it will disappoint us that after we got hyped it will still not gonna happen. At least before they move up in weight, they should give us the fight that we want to see, what's the reason for not fighting each other, for sure not a money problem as you've mentioned they'll make a lot of money here, the only hindrance is they are not real warriors, they are afraid to lose.

I'm also looking forward that this undisputed fight can happen this year but I think we are just going to be disappointed for waiting for this fight all this time, Spence's camp should give some update too because Spence's image is getting ugly as people thinks that he is the reason why this fight hasn't materialized yet.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

The rematch will happen if they are after the money and grant the wish of the fans, regardless of who will win the fight, it's still interesting to see a rematch. I guess let's focus first of the possibility or a chance that this fight will become into reality, and we can talk about a rematch later.

The fight is being the wish of the fans for a long and this fight is likely will generate a big money but still, there are lots of hindrances to making this fight official. It means the possibility of a rematch will have the same status. Definitely, the winner of this fight will now finally move to 154 lbs because that was their respective goal. Crawford will move up if this fight won't materialize while Spence is willing to move up too even not having a fight with Crawford.

See the picture here? They don't bother with each other if this won't really happen.

Going back to the fight, this fight will happen by high chance based on the last article I posted here from a good and reliable source.

I'm hoping it will because it will disappoint us that after we got hyped it will still not gonna happen. At least before they move up in weight, they should give us the fight that we want to see, what's the reason for not fighting each other, for sure not a money problem as you've mentioned they'll make a lot of money here, the only hindrance is they are not real warriors, they are afraid to lose.

I'm also looking forward that this undisputed fight can happen this year but I think we are just going to be disappointed for waiting for this fight all this time, Spence's camp should give some update too because Spence's image is getting ugly as people thinks that he is the reason why this fight hasn't materialized yet.

True, for the fans, its seems that Spence is stalling the fight, he even had a back up plan already to move to 154 lbs and face his buddy Charlo for 154 lbs. And he keeps saying that he doesn't need Crawford because his legacy has been cemented already but for us boxing fans it's not that case. You have to face the best in your division and see how is the best. So it will be a big question in his legacy if he is not going to face Crawford at 147 lbs and for the unification.

[Kelvinid]

True, for the fans, its seems that Spence is stalling the fight, he even had a back up plan already to move to 154 lbs and face his buddy Charlo for 154 lbs. And he keeps saying that he doesn't need Crawford because his legacy has been cemented already but for us boxing fans it's not that case. You have to face the best in your division and see how is the best. So it will be a big question in his legacy if he is not going to face Crawford at 147 lbs and for the unification.

Spence is a coward, he does not fight the best to keep is undefeated record. He could have fought Pacman but cancel the fight to get an eye operation, and beat Ugas easily. For me, I now respect Crawford than Spence because he doesn't want to take risk and stake his undefeated record for this unification fight.

[Alanaz]

True, for the fans, its seems that Spence is stalling the fight, he even had a back up plan already to move to 154 lbs and face his buddy Charlo for 154 lbs. And he keeps saying that he doesn't need Crawford because his legacy has been cemented already but for us boxing fans it's not that case. You have to face the best in your division and see how is the best. So it will be a big question in his legacy if he is not going to face Crawford at 147 lbs and for the unification.

It seems that this is not the first time for him because indeed when he was busy with Manny at that time he also seemed to do the same thing as now.
Regardless of what he did for reasons that he thought made sense, it would still take a little longer than expected.
But some time ago I read that the contract agreement for the fight was almost done.

[Yamifoud]

True, for the fans, its seems that Spence is stalling the fight, he even had a back up plan already to move to 154 lbs and face his buddy Charlo for 154 lbs. And he keeps saying that he doesn't need Crawford because his legacy has been cemented already but for us boxing fans it's not that case. You have to face the best in your division and see how is the best. So it will be a big question in his legacy if he is not going to face Crawford at 147 lbs and for the unification.

It seems that this is not the first time for him because indeed when he was busy with Manny at that time he also seemed to do the same thing as now.
Regardless of what he did for reasons that he thought made sense, it would still take a little longer than expected.
But some time ago I read that the contract agreement for the fight was almost done.

I hope that's true because we cannot wait to see this fight. We have been anticipating this fight, and now it was so hype, so we don't want to hear that this fight was cancelled or did not push through. There's no reason for them to delay the fight, it's an undisputed fight, both camp should be excited.

[PX-Z]

I hope that's true because we cannot wait to see this fight. We have been anticipating this fight, and now it was so hype, so we don't want to hear that this fight was cancelled or did not push through. There's no reason for them to delay the fight, it's an undisputed fight, both camp should be excited.

Yeah, I feel you, like every boxing fans are eager to have welterweight division to have another exciting championship fight. Because I feel that this weight division become less exciting in previous year(s).
And it's been years already since we see an undisputed championship fight in the welterweight division.

[freedomgo]

It could have a rematch (even if there is no written clause in the initial contract), if the fight is going to be razor sharp close or maybe even in a draw.

But if it's a convincing win, then maybe not, but if there is a huge money involved then again, they could go and fight one more before going up in weight. So I guess the fans will also have a final say and maybe the promoters are going to take that lead from us if they see a demand for it.

That's true however both sides should secure a rematch clause to make sure that a rematch will happen soon if one will pursue it and so that no one will avoid. There will be demand for sure if the fight is close enough but a rematch won't be possible if one of them starts running after named as the undisputed boxer in welterweight division.

And it's possible to happen. We witness that with Mayweather after beating Pacquiao.

Didn't give Pacquiao a rematch to remain undisputed after winning all the belts. Not sure, but in my opinion this is also
been discussed and part of the negotiation.

If the losing side asks for a rematch or secures a rematch, it's a good rivalry to take place, a possible trilogy if in case
both of them win a fight right? looking forward to hear updates regarding to this upcoming fights.

Floyd Mayweather wasn't an undisputed champion in the welterweight division, he had all the belts except the IBF belt at that time because Kell Brook was the one holding it until he was defeated against Spence Jr. in 2016. But yes, Mayweather has many reasons at that time to make sure Manny Pacquiao won't have his chance for a rematch because Floyd knows that he won't be lucky anymore.

That's why having a rematch clause is really important especially for a big fight just like this one, an undisputed title is on the line together with the 4 belts. It will just end up like Mayweather-Pacquiao back in 2015.

[LUCKMCFLY]

That is a big possibility for them to have a rematch clause and I guess it's good to include it. Right, the rematch could be very much different, purse split, revenue gates and others.

And it's just we are thinking what keep the fight? they have the date in November, and with this kind of  magnitude, they can get any venue they can get in the America. Last Vegas, Atlantic City anything that has a gambling and huge casino because come fight night there will be a lot of whales who is going to watch and obviously will gamble in any hotel casinos.

Agreed to this so that the rematch will not suffer any dispute on profit sharing if they will already set the distribution in advance just to secured the next fight for this undisputed fight. I’m sure there will be an issue on profit sharing especially for the winner of this fight since he will demand more since he prove himself. This might cause a lot of trouble to finalize if the winner will demand huge share that other party won’t accept. They should add the rematch clause on the current contract.

I'm sure they already see this possibility, so let's expect that once the contract is sign, they already have the necessary details agreed upon. If what is written in the contract is only a rematch clause, then a trilogy would be another story, and hopefully we will reach at that level in this rivalry.

Even a rematch clause will be another story as we don't know who will be on the A-side in their rematch, it could be Spence and it could be Crawford, we don't really know. One thing is for sure, there will be a rematch as long as the fight ends in a decision because if the fight ends in TKO or KO then I guess they will struggle to sell the rematch fight because it's already clear who's more dominant. But yes, I'd say that this will be much interesting if their rivalry will reach trilogy.

Well, speculating here, I think there is a possibility that one of the two boxers, whoever it is, if they get to fight and one loses by a K.O, the emotional blow will be exorbitant, and it is obvious that he will want a rematch yes or yes, and if it happens , the boxer will look for a K.O in any way, this will be a bit traumatic, I think that the best thing would be for the one who manages to win to do it as an effort of both and with very balanced forces between the two, that is, that there is the maximum effort between both boxers, I think that if the fight takes place like this, it would be a very nice scenario to ask for a rematch, because there would be much more speculation for that rematch.

It could have a rematch (even if there is no written clause in the initial contract), if the fight is going to be razor sharp close or maybe even in a draw.

But if it's a convincing win, then maybe not, but if there is a huge money involved then again, they could go and fight one more before going up in weight. So I guess the fans will also have a final say and maybe the promoters are going to take that lead from us if they see a demand for it.

That's true however both sides should secure a rematch clause to make sure that a rematch will happen soon if one will pursue it and so that no one will avoid. There will be demand for sure if the fight is close enough but a rematch won't be possible if one of them starts running after named as the undisputed boxer in welterweight division.

And it's possible to happen. We witness that with Mayweather after beating Pacquiao.

Didn't give Pacquiao a rematch to remain undisputed after winning all the belts. Not sure, but in my opinion this is also
been discussed and part of the negotiation.

If the losing side asks for a rematch or secures a rematch, it's a good rivalry to take place, a possible trilogy if in case
both of them win a fight right? looking forward to hear updates regarding to this upcoming fights.

Floyd Mayweather wasn't an undisputed champion in the welterweight division, he had all the belts except the IBF belt at that time because Kell Brook was the one holding it until he was defeated against Spence Jr. in 2016. But yes, Mayweather has many reasons at that time to make sure Manny Pacquiao won't have his chance for a rematch because Floyd knows that he won't be lucky anymore.

That's why having a rematch clause is really important especially for a big fight just like this one, an undisputed title is on the line together with the 4 belts. It will just end up like Mayweather-Pacquiao back in 2015.

Well, I don't know how many Mayweather fans are, but we all know what he did with Pacquiao, in boxing there should always be rematches, no matter how strong they are, they should exist, and I didn't like that time there was that fight where Mayweather seemed to be in A speed race in the ring, where you could only see a boxer and a rabbit running, where everything focused on the technical, where many were not left with a taste of the sport and above all very badly the judges, this is something that I did not like and I hope to never see a fight like this again, or by Pacquiao but by a boxer like Mayweather, and Mayweather fans excuse me, but it had to be said.

[harizen]

Spence is a coward, he does not fight the best to keep is undefeated record. He could have fought Pacman but cancel the fight to get an eye operation, and beat Ugas easily. For me, I now respect Crawford than Spence because he doesn't want to take risk and stake his undefeated record for this unification fight.

Before a certain fight, both boxers are checked if they are healthy enough to fight. The eye operation is being advised to Spence that's why let's not say he used that as an excuse for not fighting Manny Pacquiao. About his story with Crawford, maybe the best term is dodging and not being a coward. Crawford before is also under the shadow of top ranks that's why he didn't get his preferred match, especially against Spence.

Moving forward, should be no coward or something else as Spence and Crawford will now face each other finally and the possibility is high.

[coin-investor]

It's September and there is still no contract signed we've been told that its a done deal but the contract signing, you can never guarantee by words or talks alone there must contract deal and date for this fight to really happen, that's the missing link to this fight, as long as there is no contract both boxers can back out of the deal and if they target the November date they should do the contract ASAP if no contract by the end of September the fight could not push through this November, fighters are training because of the incoming fight based on the contract.

[Kemarit]

Spence is a coward, he does not fight the best to keep is undefeated record. He could have fought Pacman but cancel the fight to get an eye operation, and beat Ugas easily. For me, I now respect Crawford than Spence because he doesn't want to take risk and stake his undefeated record for this unification fight.

Before a certain fight, both boxers are checked if they are healthy enough to fight. The eye operation is being advised to Spence that's why let's not say he used that as an excuse for not fighting Manny Pacquiao. About his story with Crawford, maybe the best term is dodging and not being a coward. Crawford before is also under the shadow of top ranks that's why he didn't get his preferred match, especially against Spence.

Moving forward, should be no coward or something else as Spence and Crawford will now face each other finally and the possibility is high.

Wait, we shouldn't put the word coward here they are all after the money because their health is always on the line in every fight. Spence fight with Pacman has been canceled because of his eye operation that is true and it doesn't mean that he is avoiding Manny at all cost. That's what we perceived it though he doesn't want to have a piece of Crawford because he thinks that he might lost. But what if he get a good offer? I think he will without a heart beat sign the contract. But for now, maybe the offer is not that good and so the stalling game begins. Who will go and bite on the bluff of either side?

[Vaculin]

The rematch will happen if they are after the money and grant the wish of the fans, regardless of who will win the fight, it's still interesting to see a rematch. I guess let's focus first of the possibility or a chance that this fight will become into reality, and we can talk about a rematch later.

The fight is being the wish of the fans for a long and this fight is likely will generate a big money but still, there are lots of hindrances to making this fight official. It means the possibility of a rematch will have the same status. Definitely, the winner of this fight will now finally move to 154 lbs because that was their respective goal. Crawford will move up if this fight won't materialize while Spence is willing to move up too even not having a fight with Crawford.

See the picture here? They don't bother with each other if this won't really happen.

Going back to the fight, this fight will happen by high chance based on the last article I posted here from a good and reliable source.

I'm hoping it will because it will disappoint us that after we got hyped it will still not gonna happen. At least before they move up in weight, they should give us the fight that we want to see, what's the reason for not fighting each other, for sure not a money problem as you've mentioned they'll make a lot of money here, the only hindrance is they are not real warriors, they are afraid to lose.

I'm also looking forward that this undisputed fight can happen this year but I think we are just going to be disappointed for waiting for this fight all this time, Spence's camp should give some update too because Spence's image is getting ugly as people thinks that he is the reason why this fight hasn't materialized yet.

True, for the fans, its seems that Spence is stalling the fight, he even had a back up plan already to move to 154 lbs and face his buddy Charlo for 154 lbs. And he keeps saying that he doesn't need Crawford because his legacy has been cemented already but for us boxing fans it's not that case. You have to face the best in your division and see how is the best. So it will be a big question in his legacy if he is not going to face Crawford at 147 lbs and for the unification.

That's right! Spence saying that he already have some back-up if this fight won't happen is bad news for the fans that have been waiting for this fight and that will scathe his image more in the public because it will be clear that he is trying to avoid Crawford at this point. Spence Jr. is good that's why people are excited but he got some doubts that he can't take down the current Crawford, and now, he is starting to look like Mayweather because like Mayweather he waited for Pacquiao to get more older before pursuing a fight.

[Japinat]

It's September and there is still no contract signed we've been told that its a done deal but the contract signing, you can never guarantee by words or talks alone there must contract deal and date for this fight to really happen, that's the missing link to this fight, as long as there is no contract both boxers can back out of the deal and if they target the November date they should do the contract ASAP if no contract by the end of September the fight could not push through this November, fighters are training because of the incoming fight based on the contract.

I'm thinking the same way too, if there's no final announcement by the end of this month then I guess it's already safe to assume that there would be no undisputed match that would take place this year especially if their looking forward to make it happen in November. I know we've been expecting this to happen and we are even delighted when we knew that there's an ongoing discussion but I think we are near the point where we get tired of assuming.

Still, I will try to be optimistic that we will receive a good news this month and there is still time for them to make some final preparations (if there's any).