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September 27, 2022, 10:08:02 PM
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I didn't expect the distance of the odds. I thought neither Spence nor Crawford will be the Favorites, the odds for them is just close.

Crawford at 1.6 over Spence at 2.1 just shows that bookies looked at the former as Heavy Favorites and not just the usual Favorites.

It's not even a trap to consider but either way, I will still pick Spence to win this match.
I think when the date get closer until the fight will happen, Spence odds will be higher since many people will bet Crawford. Crawford currently become top 3 pound for pound while Spence is on top 4, though it's close, but a difference is still different.

I'll watch the odds, if the odds is really small of Crawford, I wouldn't bet him since it doesn't worth for the risk. I believe there's will be a rematch sooner or later regardless who's win here.


Too early to make some bets because both odds aren't that appealing yet, and it's not yet tempting me to place some bets. The date of the fight is not yet final as we are still waiting for some finals details regarding this fight, so in any case, the odds will change up until the day of the fight. And expect that there will be rematch too, it's hard seeing an undisputed fight without a rematch from the defeated camp.

A friend is challenging me for a bet but I did not say yes right away because all I have seen are speculations of the fight as there are no showing or posting the fight will happen because the contract has been signed, they need to show us this first because all the betting sites are speculating on the fight, and on the rematch, it depends on what kind of fight they are going to show us if it's a close fight a rematch is desirable if it's very dominant by the other fighter then ticket sales is not desirable and they will have to think of a rematch right away.

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September 27, 2022, 10:28:39 PM
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I didn't expect the distance of the odds. I thought neither Spence nor Crawford will be the Favorites, the odds for them is just close.

Crawford at 1.6 over Spence at 2.1 just shows that bookies looked at the former as Heavy Favorites and not just the usual Favorites.

It's not even a trap to consider but either way, I will still pick Spence to win this match.
I think when the date get closer until the fight will happen, Spence odds will be higher since many people will bet Crawford. Crawford currently become top 3 pound for pound while Spence is on top 4, though it's close, but a difference is still different.

I'll watch the odds, if the odds is really small of Crawford, I wouldn't bet him since it doesn't worth for the risk. I believe there's will be a rematch sooner or later regardless who's win here.


Too early to make some bets because both odds aren't that appealing yet, and it's not yet tempting me to place some bets. The date of the fight is not yet final as we are still waiting for some finals details regarding this fight, so in any case, the odds will change up until the day of the fight. And expect that there will be rematch too, it's hard seeing an undisputed fight without a rematch from the defeated camp.

Of course, doesn't make sense to bet this early because the odds are not appealing for us. Unless you are a big fa of either boxer and willing to throw thousands of dollars this early just to get ahead of the game.

But for sure once there is a official announcement, there could be some swing bets. However, I'm not seeing any change in the odds, Crawford will remain the favorite in this fight. Just a matter how big the gap will be and then us, how are we going to take advantage about those odds. And then what kind of betting we are going to do when the other options are open to us.

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September 28, 2022, 07:44:46 AM
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Is this match up happening or what? This topic was created last May and up to now there is no confirmation that this will go ahead. This is like the making of Mayweather and Pacquiao. Mayweather had grown his balls only the moment Pacquiao lost to Bradley and ko'ed by Marquez. Pacquiao was younger than Mayweather but he went past his prime earlier maybe because of his energy consuming aggressive fighting style against Mayweather's more relax defensive style, jab, grab and hold style.

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September 28, 2022, 09:18:34 AM
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Is this match up happening or what? This topic was created last May and up to now there is no confirmation that this will go ahead. This is like the making of Mayweather and Pacquiao. Mayweather had grown his balls only the moment Pacquiao lost to Bradley and ko'ed by Marquez. Pacquiao was younger than Mayweather but he went past his prime earlier maybe because of his energy consuming aggressive fighting style against Mayweather's more relax defensive style, jab, grab and hold style.
This is why you should read at least few last pages, not only on the topic. There's has been discussed this match has been listed on sportsbet.io and this mean the fight would high likely to happen. We only need to wait for both of them completing the contract, AFAIK the problem is about the share or profit percentage.

I don't understand why Mayweather and Pacquiao need be brought in this thread since both of them ever fight each other and it's not just ended as a rumor.

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September 28, 2022, 10:30:05 AM
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Is this match up happening or what? This topic was created last May and up to now there is no confirmation that this will go ahead. This is like the making of Mayweather and Pacquiao. Mayweather had grown his balls only the moment Pacquiao lost to Bradley and ko'ed by Marquez. Pacquiao was younger than Mayweather but he went past his prime earlier maybe because of his energy consuming aggressive fighting style against Mayweather's more relax defensive style, jab, grab and hold style.

What we can see if we search it from google that the fight are already scheduled this Nov 19.

The drama is not the same with Pacquiao and Mayweather, it took a long time of negotiation before it push thru while with
Crawford and Spence they agree to bring things inside the ring the same year when they hype the possible fight. bookies
already add this fight and if you are a Spence fan, you can take advantage of such a huge edge.
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September 28, 2022, 12:21:31 PM
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Is this match up happening or what? This topic was created last May and up to now there is no confirmation that this will go ahead. This is like the making of Mayweather and Pacquiao. Mayweather had grown his balls only the moment Pacquiao lost to Bradley and ko'ed by Marquez. Pacquiao was younger than Mayweather but he went past his prime earlier maybe because of his energy consuming aggressive fighting style against Mayweather's more relax defensive style, jab, grab and hold style.

As I have said previously, if this is going to be official then someone will have to tell the public about it. And there are speculations that this fight is already settled, but needs to iron few pointers in the contract and so there is a back and forth discussions.

But both are in their primes and undefeated, so probably this is more entertaining than Floyd vs Pacquaio because of the style of Mayweather and Pacquiao already on the downhill of his career when he fought Floyd. But Crawford and Spence is still very much at their peak.

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September 28, 2022, 05:41:39 PM
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Is this match up happening or what? This topic was created last May and up to now there is no confirmation that this will go ahead. This is like the making of Mayweather and Pacquiao. Mayweather had grown his balls only the moment Pacquiao lost to Bradley and ko'ed by Marquez. Pacquiao was younger than Mayweather but he went past his prime earlier maybe because of his energy consuming aggressive fighting style against Mayweather's more relax defensive style, jab, grab and hold style.

What we can see if we search it from google that the fight are already scheduled this Nov 19.

The drama is not the same with Pacquiao and Mayweather, it took a long time of negotiation before it push thru while with
Crawford and Spence they agree to bring things inside the ring the same year when they hype the possible fight. bookies
already add this fight and if you are a Spence fan, you can take advantage of such a huge edge.


Yup, I don't know why but it seems that Google and other article producers have their own insiders and sources that is why they have come up with a date and place. The fight is said to happen this coming November 19 at Las Vegas, specific place is not yet determined for now.

Also, as you've said, the bookies already added this fight in their list so it's really hard to believe that this fight won't be happening this year. We have been given some signs already but we know that's not the real thing as they haven't released a final announcement yet. Let's just be positive! Cheesy

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September 29, 2022, 08:36:11 AM
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Is this match up happening or what? This topic was created last May and up to now there is no confirmation that this will go ahead. This is like the making of Mayweather and Pacquiao. Mayweather had grown his balls only the moment Pacquiao lost to Bradley and ko'ed by Marquez. Pacquiao was younger than Mayweather but he went past his prime earlier maybe because of his energy consuming aggressive fighting style against Mayweather's more relax defensive style, jab, grab and hold style.

What we can see if we search it from google that the fight are already scheduled this Nov 19.

The drama is not the same with Pacquiao and Mayweather, it took a long time of negotiation before it push thru while with
Crawford and Spence they agree to bring things inside the ring the same year when they hype the possible fight. bookies
already add this fight and if you are a Spence fan, you can take advantage of such a huge edge.


Yup, I don't know why but it seems that Google and other article producers have their own insiders and sources that is why they have come up with a date and place. The fight is said to happen this coming November 19 at Las Vegas, specific place is not yet determined for now.

Also, as you've said, the bookies already added this fight in their list so it's really hard to believe that this fight won't be happening this year. We have been given some signs already but we know that's not the real thing as they haven't released a final announcement yet. Let's just be positive! Cheesy
I don't think that bookies have inside information on the fight, they may have listed it based on the articles that is coming out and that is the date of Nov 19.

And we have to search for the latest article, still goes down to the fight being agreed in terms. But nowhere we see that they have sign the contract already. So in short, the fight is still far from being made and the only thing we do is wait and as you have said, be positive.

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September 29, 2022, 08:56:26 AM
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I don't think that bookies have inside information on the fight, they may have listed it based on the articles that is coming out and that is the date of Nov 19.

And we have to search for the latest article, still goes down to the fight being agreed in terms. But nowhere we see that they have sign the contract already. So in short, the fight is still far from being made and the only thing we do is wait and as you have said, be positive.

I can't believe that we have 40 pages and yet we are not 100% sure that the fight is going to happen, we are left speculating by all the parties involved in this fight, and I wonder what's going on in the minds of both fighters are they concentrating on the fight now, are they training hard even if there is no contract signed, this is the first time I read that there is a fight going to happen even though there is no contract signed, and we are a few days before October its only two months before their supposed date of the fight.

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I don't think that bookies have inside information on the fight, they may have listed it based on the articles that is coming out and that is the date of Nov 19.

And we have to search for the latest article, still goes down to the fight being agreed in terms. But nowhere we see that they have sign the contract already. So in short, the fight is still far from being made and the only thing we do is wait and as you have said, be positive.

I can't believe that we have 40 pages and yet we are not 100% sure that the fight is going to happen, we are left speculating by all the parties involved in this fight, and I wonder what's going on in the minds of both fighters are they concentrating on the fight now, are they training hard even if there is no contract signed, this is the first time I read that there is a fight going to happen even though there is no contract signed, and we are a few days before October its only two months before their supposed date of the fight.
Surprisingly yes, there's an article about the target date and bookies already place odd on their system.

But there's no update yet regarding to the final signing of contract and it implies that the chance that this fight won't happen
is still possible. The only thing that we can do for now is still waiting and continue to watch out for any development of the
signing of contract. Both camps are still in the process of accepting the terms.
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I don't think that bookies have inside information on the fight, they may have listed it based on the articles that is coming out and that is the date of Nov 19.

And we have to search for the latest article, still goes down to the fight being agreed in terms. But nowhere we see that they have sign the contract already. So in short, the fight is still far from being made and the only thing we do is wait and as you have said, be positive.

I can't believe that we have 40 pages and yet we are not 100% sure that the fight is going to happen, we are left speculating by all the parties involved in this fight, and I wonder what's going on in the minds of both fighters are they concentrating on the fight now, are they training hard even if there is no contract signed, this is the first time I read that there is a fight going to happen even though there is no contract signed, and we are a few days before October its only two months before their supposed date of the fight.

I reckon this discussion was created weeks after Spence defeated Ugas by a TKO and said that he's going to take Crawford's belt next, although Spence didn't disclose nor gave a hint on when will he take on Crawford next, he just said that he'll fight but that could mean a year from now Grin It's just people and fans, including us, are already excited and called for a fight for an undisputed. In other words, it's safe to assume that Spence will take some months to rest first before he will have an discussion with Crawford's camp and I really think that's what happened because the fight took long enough before they reached a deal (still verbally as of this day).

Best guess is that both camps are already training because their forecasted date is approaching fast, they only have less than 2 months left to prepare and train. Maybe that's the same reason why they are so silent these days after we received an information that they've already reached a deal.

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September 29, 2022, 09:55:27 PM
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Best guess is that both camps are already training because their forecasted date is approaching fast, they only have less than 2 months left to prepare and train. Maybe that's the same reason why they are so silent these days after we received an information that they've already reached a deal.

They will only train if the fight is already official, there's no reason for them to train hard with their team if there's no announcement yet, unless they know it's going to happen and promoters are just waiting for the right time to announce, what I'm saying is, if they start training for nothing, they will just be wasting money.

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September 29, 2022, 10:42:12 PM
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I don't think that bookies have inside information on the fight, they may have listed it based on the articles that is coming out and that is the date of Nov 19.

And we have to search for the latest article, still goes down to the fight being agreed in terms. But nowhere we see that they have sign the contract already. So in short, the fight is still far from being made and the only thing we do is wait and as you have said, be positive.

I can't believe that we have 40 pages and yet we are not 100% sure that the fight is going to happen, we are left speculating by all the parties involved in this fight, and I wonder what's going on in the minds of both fighters are they concentrating on the fight now, are they training hard even if there is no contract signed, this is the first time I read that there is a fight going to happen even though there is no contract signed, and we are a few days before October its only two months before their supposed date of the fight.
Surprisingly yes, there's an article about the target date and bookies already place odd on their system.

But there's no update yet regarding to the final signing of contract and it implies that the chance that this fight won't happen
is still possible. The only thing that we can do for now is still waiting and continue to watch out for any development of the
signing of contract. Both camps are still in the process of accepting the terms.

Well, maybe that's already a sign that an undisputed fight in the welterweight division will indeed happen in somewhere in November. The promoters and organizers surely know that they should take advantage of the situation while the people are still excited for the said fight because if the hype won't be around anymore then probably they won't be making huge enough and they don't like that. As of now, we've been receiving some news on our end but we are still waiting for the last and final announcement.

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September 29, 2022, 11:58:57 PM
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I still didn't get why the fight is still not established yet because they already announced that they already had a verbal agreement but it's been a week already since that information surfaced. Why is it taking so long to get that final announcement in this undisputed fight? Although I believe they are already past the point where they are still argue about the purse split.

It's ok mate. It's good that both parties are now verbally agreed to compare to before we don't see any words from both camps and we are clueless about any progress. As long as no news about what would be the other big problems why this fight is still not having an official announcement, it's all good.

Maybe next month, October, we can now hear the updated progress of this fight.

If the fight will take place in November, there should be an announcement next month.
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September 30, 2022, 12:00:00 AM
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Best guess is that both camps are already training because their forecasted date is approaching fast, they only have less than 2 months left to prepare and train. Maybe that's the same reason why they are so silent these days after we received an information that they've already reached a deal.

They will only train if the fight is already official, there's no reason for them to train hard with their team if there's no announcement yet, unless they know it's going to happen and promoters are just waiting for the right time to announce, what I'm saying is, if they start training for nothing, they will just be wasting money.

the odds are already out so for sure they are already training hard for this. as of now, crawford is the favourite of the bookies having odds of 1.64-1.66, whereas, spence having 2.13-2.18 odds. so who do you think will go home with those belts? i guess, we need a poll on this thread so we can see the forum gamblers' opinion on this fight. this will be a lucrative fight for both boxers so they should not fail us to show a good toe-to-toe fight inside the ring.

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September 30, 2022, 03:07:44 AM
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Best guess is that both camps are already training because their forecasted date is approaching fast, they only have less than 2 months left to prepare and train. Maybe that's the same reason why they are so silent these days after we received an information that they've already reached a deal.

They will only train if the fight is already official, there's no reason for them to train hard with their team if there's no announcement yet, unless they know it's going to happen and promoters are just waiting for the right time to announce, what I'm saying is, if they start training for nothing, they will just be wasting money.

But this fighters are elite, and they have to stay in shape even at off season. And this is the secret of some of the best of them like Floyd and Manny or even Hopkins during his prime. This boxers keeps themselves in around their fighting weight by maybe doing some like trainings at home. Floyd and Manny loves to play basketball.

And so when the official fight is announced, they will just shift gears and focus 100% on the training itself. So they are not wasting money, they've just trying to get the edge.

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^ Hehehe, we should take everything with a grain of salt specially coming from Bob Arum. He used to promote Crawford, and if he believes he can beat him, why he didn't set up the fight? The only reason I can see is that it's it's difficult to negotiate with PBC or there is not money to be made because he says that Crawford doesn't have that huge draw. And this is one of the main reason why Crawford left him, because of this comment of him, and assuming that time that Crawford is still with Bob.

I would agree that if compared to Errol Spence, Terence Crawford does not have a larger draw. However, if Spence and Crawford were in the same ring to fight each other, they would certainly increase each other's draw. Also, who is at fault if Crawford's draw is lower? I reckon it is the promoter's fault! This superfight would also not happen if Crawford has stayed with Top Rank.

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September 30, 2022, 09:29:34 AM
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^ Hehehe, we should take everything with a grain of salt specially coming from Bob Arum. He used to promote Crawford, and if he believes he can beat him, why he didn't set up the fight? The only reason I can see is that it's it's difficult to negotiate with PBC or there is not money to be made because he says that Crawford doesn't have that huge draw. And this is one of the main reason why Crawford left him, because of this comment of him, and assuming that time that Crawford is still with Bob.

I would agree that if compared to Errol Spence, Terence Crawford does not have a larger draw. However, if Spence and Crawford were in the same ring to fight each other, they would certainly increase each other's draw. Also, who is at fault if Crawford's draw is lower? I reckon it is the promoter's fault! This superfight would also not happen if Crawford has stayed with Top Rank.

Maybe Crawford just wants to get this fight done for legacy, he is not getting any younger and he wants a legacy fight, more than the money he already earned a lot, a boxer that is getting older knows that he is only a few fights left and he wants legacy fight for reference in the hall of fame, if he wins this fight he'll get a larger share in their rematch and of course, he'll get the upper hand in standing and money, Crawford blames Top Rank for failing to secure a match against Spence he did the right thing kicking out Arum to his boxing life.

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September 30, 2022, 10:25:45 AM
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Best guess is that both camps are already training because their forecasted date is approaching fast, they only have less than 2 months left to prepare and train. Maybe that's the same reason why they are so silent these days after we received an information that they've already reached a deal.

They will only train if the fight is already official, there's no reason for them to train hard with their team if there's no announcement yet, unless they know it's going to happen and promoters are just waiting for the right time to announce, what I'm saying is, if they start training for nothing, they will just be wasting money.

the odds are already out so for sure they are already training hard for this. as of now, crawford is the favourite of the bookies having odds of 1.64-1.66, whereas, spence having 2.13-2.18 odds. so who do you think will go home with those belts? i guess, we need a poll on this thread so we can see the forum gamblers' opinion on this fight. this will be a lucrative fight for both boxers so they should not fail us to show a good toe-to-toe fight inside the ring.

You can ask OP to make a poll on this particular fight, for sure it will be a very close race and I'm not certain who will win although we already have an idea on the betting odds of this fight. Well, both are champions, since Spence is also very confident, then maybe betting on himself will probably give him more money.

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September 30, 2022, 11:19:48 AM
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Best guess is that both camps are already training because their forecasted date is approaching fast, they only have less than 2 months left to prepare and train. Maybe that's the same reason why they are so silent these days after we received an information that they've already reached a deal.

They will only train if the fight is already official, there's no reason for them to train hard with their team if there's no announcement yet, unless they know it's going to happen and promoters are just waiting for the right time to announce, what I'm saying is, if they start training for nothing, they will just be wasting money.

the odds are already out so for sure they are already training hard for this. as of now, crawford is the favourite of the bookies having odds of 1.64-1.66, whereas, spence having 2.13-2.18 odds. so who do you think will go home with those belts? i guess, we need a poll on this thread so we can see the forum gamblers' opinion on this fight. this will be a lucrative fight for both boxers so they should not fail us to show a good toe-to-toe fight inside the ring.

You can ask OP to make a poll on this particular fight, for sure it will be a very close race and I'm not certain who will win although we already have an idea on the betting odds of this fight. Well, both are champions, since Spence is also very confident, then maybe betting on himself will probably give him more money.

Good question, I do hope that the OP will edit and put up a poll so the pulse of our boxing community. Nevertheless, I will have Crawford as my slight favorite in this fight because he is one of my fav boxer right. Overall I see him as being the stronger between the two.

Nevertheless we have our own opinion and even if the odds are in Crawford's way, for sure there are bettors here who are going for Spence Jr because he has a good resume and tougher opponents.
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