[Boxing] Crawford vs Spence

[yazher]

But Crawford can also move up to 154 and hunt for his 4th division title but he seriously needs a promoter to depend on.   

And of course he can find a promoter if he wants to, the job of the promoter is to sell the fight, and since Crawford is already popular and a champion, every promoter will sure be willing to invest on him.

That's right and this kind of job is easy and I'm sure there are already lots of candidates who wanted to have him. If he cannot find a good opponent in their current weight division, he better not waste his time and continue in his journey to be one of the great fighters and try to add some championship belts in his name. It would be completely different opponents up there but with his skills and experience, he will easily become a champion and might even have to go for a unification bout when he is comfortable up there.

[Pamadar]

But Crawford can also move up to 154 and hunt for his 4th division title but he seriously needs a promoter to depend on.   

And of course he can find a promoter if he wants to, the job of the promoter is to sell the fight, and since Crawford is already popular and a champion, every promoter will sure be willing to invest on him.

That's right and this kind of job is easy and I'm sure there are already lots of candidates who wanted to have him. If he cannot find a good opponent in their current weight division, he better not waste his time and continue in his journey to be one of the great fighters and try to add some championship belts in his name. It would be completely different opponents up there but with his skills and experience, he will easily become a champion and might even have to go for a unification bout when he is comfortable up there.

In his current status, it's not hard for any promoters to sell him to a title fight. He already established his name from his current division.

If he decided to move up, his handlers will look and negotiate with any title holder from his chosen
division, we all know that not just the title but more on the money that includes to every fight that
being deal with. The amount of potential profits is far more important for everyone..

[freedomgo]

Crawford is really in an odd situation if he remains a free agent. He is not Canelo that can easily jump to any promoters and networks but still dictates everything in the deal. If he fights the WBO number 1 contender, the undefeated banger Vergil Ortiz Jr., it will be promoted by Golden Boy and DAZN will televise it. Highly risky for Bud with no legacy returns except money. Ortiz is a superstar in the making. Huge fanbase and is a very charismatic guy. I believe Crawford-Ortiz will beat all of Spence's previous PPV buys. But Crawford can also move up to 154 and hunt for his 4th division title but he seriously needs a promoter to depend on.   

I'm also thinking the same way, I also thought that a unification fight between Crawford and Spence is the next thing to happen when Bud haven't re-sign with Bob Arum. We all know that Arum is not inclined in these situation but without him, Crawford's alone and nothing to lean on in these times, also his situation has gotten worse because Spence's camp is playing on him. He badly needed a promoter and Mayweather is there ready to accept Bud under his banner to help him in the business side. I hope he will seek help to make this happen because he is getting older.

Aside from that, I think it's much better for him to fight Charlo in 154 pounds rather than risking his career for getting nothing while fighting the #1 contender, Ortiz.

[Hypnosis00]

But Crawford can also move up to 154 and hunt for his 4th division title but he seriously needs a promoter to depend on.   

And of course he can find a promoter if he wants to, the job of the promoter is to sell the fight, and since Crawford is already popular and a champion, every promoter will sure be willing to invest on him.

That's right and this kind of job is easy and I'm sure there are already lots of candidates who wanted to have him. If he cannot find a good opponent in their current weight division, he better not waste his time and continue in his journey to be one of the great fighters and try to add some championship belts in his name. It would be completely different opponents up there but with his skills and experience, he will easily become a champion and might even have to go for a unification bout when he is comfortable up there.

In his current status, it's not hard for any promoters to sell him to a title fight. He already established his name from his current division.

If he decided to move up, his handlers will look and negotiate with any title holder from his chosen
division, we all know that not just the title but more on the money that includes to every fight that
being deal with. The amount of potential profits is far more important for everyone..

It's still about the money, boxers would love to fight in a championship fight to gain more money as championship fights are much watched compared to a regular fight. As for Crawford, he already had popularity, still in his prime, so it's important that he will choose a good opponent in case he will move up in weight.  So this is it? Is this fight not gonna happen?

[inthelongrun]

Crawford is really in an odd situation if he remains a free agent. He is not Canelo that can easily jump to any promoters and networks but still dictates everything in the deal. If he fights the WBO number 1 contender, the undefeated banger Vergil Ortiz Jr., it will be promoted by Golden Boy and DAZN will televise it. Highly risky for Bud with no legacy returns except money. Ortiz is a superstar in the making. Huge fanbase and is a very charismatic guy. I believe Crawford-Ortiz will beat all of Spence's previous PPV buys. But Crawford can also move up to 154 and hunt for his 4th division title but he seriously needs a promoter to depend on.  

I'm also thinking the same way, I also thought that a unification fight between Crawford and Spence is the next thing to happen when Bud haven't re-sign with Bob Arum. We all know that Arum is not inclined in these situation but without him, Crawford's alone and nothing to lean on in these times, also his situation has gotten worse because Spence's camp is playing on him. He badly needed a promoter and Mayweather is there ready to accept Bud under his banner to help him in the business side. I hope he will seek help to make this happen because he is getting older.

Aside from that, I think it's much better for him to fight Charlo in 154 pounds rather than risking his career for getting nothing while fighting the #1 contender, Ortiz.

Yeah, Mayweather really wants to sign Bud. The problem with Mayweather Promotions nowadays is it is just becoming one of the dummy promotions for PBC who's hiding under a managerial license. Mayweather is not the same guy anymore that wanted his promotion to become big like De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions. And we also do not know how much Bud trusts Mayweather knowing the guy is a very close friend to Spence's team like Ellerbe his former manager and Al Haymon the owner of PBC.

Jermell Charlo the undisputed champ of 154 is from PBC too and he already said that he won't give Bud a shot at his undisputed belts. Charlo a very close friend of Spence wants Bud to work his way up to the rankings and earn his shot. So Bud can either get a tune-up at 154 or request the WBO to give him a shot at the WBO 154 belt which Charlo can vacate if it's still reluctant. It seems like these boys of PBC are trying to stop Bud from becoming the first-ever undisputed champion in 2 (Spence at 147) or 3 (Charlo at 154) divisions in this 4 belt era.

Money-wise DAZN has the deepest pocket in boxing right now. They got the biggest money-makers in boxing Canelo, AJ, Usyk, and potential future superstars Vergil Ortiz and Ryan Garcia. Bud can sign with them but it might also mean no more Spence and Charlo.

[TravelMug]

But Crawford can also move up to 154 and hunt for his 4th division title but he seriously needs a promoter to depend on.   

And of course he can find a promoter if he wants to, the job of the promoter is to sell the fight, and since Crawford is already popular and a champion, every promoter will sure be willing to invest on him.

But he has one of the best manager in boxing already in Arum, but I guess he doesn't want to be his manager again because he wants to fight Spence because Arum is not bringing him fights that he wanted.

So the next big thing for him if he wanted this fight is to join PBC, so that there's no way that Spence can escape him because they know have the same manager and probably the same network to work it, so that fight is going to be made very easy.

[Baofeng]

Only time can tell, as I have said, for this year the fight is not going to happen. And maybe the negotiations is already dead at this point.

But I think this fight can still be salvage and be made for next year, for sure the money is going to be to big that both camp can't refuse it, and maybe they are just looking for the perfect time to have this fight. We compare this to Floyd vs Manny, lots of stumbling block but in the end it got to be made.

This is dead for sure this year. Only roughly just a month remaining now for the supposed November 19 fight.

But I'm not giving up on this fight to happen next year.

Maybe it is a mistake that Crawford is a free agent. He thought that without Bob Arum and ESPN this fight is going to happen easily. He thought that without a promoter and a network to lean on he can be treated well and receives a fair deal. The way I imagined, Spence and his side are the ones dictating. Well, of course, because PBC will promote it and Showtime is the one that will televise it. And all of them worked with Spence.

Hehehe, we are thinking that Bob Arum and his network doesn't want to take on Spence. So what Crawford did is to severe his ties with both Arum and ESPN and then declare himself as free-agent to make the fight easy with Spence. However, not the case here, they put Crawford on a bad position and now Spence is in a lose-lose situation. Although they have options on who to fight next as they have the belts, but this is what the fans is demanding for at least next year.

[Pamadar]

But Crawford can also move up to 154 and hunt for his 4th division title but he seriously needs a promoter to depend on.   

And of course he can find a promoter if he wants to, the job of the promoter is to sell the fight, and since Crawford is already popular and a champion, every promoter will sure be willing to invest on him.

But he has one of the best manager in boxing already in Arum, but I guess he doesn't want to be his manager again because he wants to fight Spence because Arum is not bringing him fights that he wanted.

So the next big thing for him if he wanted this fight is to join PBC, so that there's no way that Spence can escape him because they know have the same manager and probably the same network to work it, so that fight is going to be made very easy.

Easier to deal with if he will move to that same handler. A good way for him, since he's really chasing for Spence.

I follow your argument because he's not getting any younger, though he's really trying to work it out and
chase for this fight against his co-champions in this division. We might hear updates and maybe possibilities
that the fight will happen just a confirmation from both camps and it will be a done deal.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

But Crawford can also move up to 154 and hunt for his 4th division title but he seriously needs a promoter to depend on.   

And of course he can find a promoter if he wants to, the job of the promoter is to sell the fight, and since Crawford is already popular and a champion, every promoter will sure be willing to invest on him.

But he has one of the best manager in boxing already in Arum, but I guess he doesn't want to be his manager again because he wants to fight Spence because Arum is not bringing him fights that he wanted.

So the next big thing for him if he wanted this fight is to join PBC, so that there's no way that Spence can escape him because they know have the same manager and probably the same network to work it, so that fight is going to be made very easy.

Easier to deal with if he will move to that same handler. A good way for him, since he's really chasing for Spence.

I follow your argument because he's not getting any younger, though he's really trying to work it out and
chase for this fight against his co-champions in this division. We might hear updates and maybe possibilities
that the fight will happen just a confirmation from both camps and it will be a done deal.

That is also possible, but so far we haven't heard anything from Crawford that he wants to go and join PBC. Or this could be the sticking point of Spence? He will fight him but he has to agreed and join Al Haymon's powerful group of fighters. Or we don't know who is handling Crawford's business now in dealing with Spence, we have seen with Floyd but then again, no news if Floyd is mediating between.

So we will see if the deal is making progress, but for me it seems at dead of the night for this year.

[freedomgo]

Crawford is really in an odd situation if he remains a free agent. He is not Canelo that can easily jump to any promoters and networks but still dictates everything in the deal. If he fights the WBO number 1 contender, the undefeated banger Vergil Ortiz Jr., it will be promoted by Golden Boy and DAZN will televise it. Highly risky for Bud with no legacy returns except money. Ortiz is a superstar in the making. Huge fanbase and is a very charismatic guy. I believe Crawford-Ortiz will beat all of Spence's previous PPV buys. But Crawford can also move up to 154 and hunt for his 4th division title but he seriously needs a promoter to depend on.  

I'm also thinking the same way, I also thought that a unification fight between Crawford and Spence is the next thing to happen when Bud haven't re-sign with Bob Arum. We all know that Arum is not inclined in these situation but without him, Crawford's alone and nothing to lean on in these times, also his situation has gotten worse because Spence's camp is playing on him. He badly needed a promoter and Mayweather is there ready to accept Bud under his banner to help him in the business side. I hope he will seek help to make this happen because he is getting older.

Aside from that, I think it's much better for him to fight Charlo in 154 pounds rather than risking his career for getting nothing while fighting the #1 contender, Ortiz.

Yeah, Mayweather really wants to sign Bud. The problem with Mayweather Promotions nowadays is it is just becoming one of the dummy promotions for PBC who's hiding under a managerial license. Mayweather is not the same guy anymore that wanted his promotion to become big like De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions. And we also do not know how much Bud trusts Mayweather knowing the guy is a very close friend to Spence's team like Ellerbe his former manager and Al Haymon the owner of PBC.

Jermell Charlo the undisputed champ of 154 is from PBC too and he already said that he won't give Bud a shot at his undisputed belts. Charlo a very close friend of Spence wants Bud to work his way up to the rankings and earn his shot. So Bud can either get a tune-up at 154 or request the WBO to give him a shot at the WBO 154 belt which Charlo can vacate if it's still reluctant. It seems like these boys of PBC are trying to stop Bud from becoming the first-ever undisputed champion in 2 (Spence at 147) or 3 (Charlo at 154) divisions in this 4 belt era.

Money-wise DAZN has the deepest pocket in boxing right now. They got the biggest money-makers in boxing Canelo, AJ, Usyk, and potential future superstars Vergil Ortiz and Ryan Garcia. Bud can sign with them but it might also mean no more Spence and Charlo.

Really? I didn't know that Crawford's situation is much deeper than what I've thought. That's indeed too bad because all his years are wasted being under Bob Arum's management because Bob didn't let Bud build his legacy. Now, he is being rejected to have a shot in an undisputed fight both in welter and super welter. But I don't understand, why is it a bad idea if Bud sign under DAZN? Enlighten me mate.

[Pamadar]

But Crawford can also move up to 154 and hunt for his 4th division title but he seriously needs a promoter to depend on.   

And of course he can find a promoter if he wants to, the job of the promoter is to sell the fight, and since Crawford is already popular and a champion, every promoter will sure be willing to invest on him.

But he has one of the best manager in boxing already in Arum, but I guess he doesn't want to be his manager again because he wants to fight Spence because Arum is not bringing him fights that he wanted.

So the next big thing for him if he wanted this fight is to join PBC, so that there's no way that Spence can escape him because they know have the same manager and probably the same network to work it, so that fight is going to be made very easy.

Easier to deal with if he will move to that same handler. A good way for him, since he's really chasing for Spence.

I follow your argument because he's not getting any younger, though he's really trying to work it out and
chase for this fight against his co-champions in this division. We might hear updates and maybe possibilities
that the fight will happen just a confirmation from both camps and it will be a done deal.

That is also possible, but so far we haven't heard anything from Crawford that he wants to go and join PBC. Or this could be the sticking point of Spence? He will fight him but he has to agreed and join Al Haymon's powerful group of fighters. Or we don't know who is handling Crawford's business now in dealing with Spence, we have seen with Floyd but then again, no news if Floyd is mediating between.

So we will see if the deal is making progress, but for me it seems at dead of the night for this year.

Nothing but to agree with you, there's nothing as for now in terms finalization whether this fight will take place this year.

Fighters call when the deal has been signed. Both fighters will be ready to engage and showcase their talent
and skills inside the ring.

Maybe the chance of closing the deal for this year is already far to happen but we can't conclude until there's no
further notice or declaration between the two camps.

[Kemarit]

And as I have said before, I suspect that one reason beside the split and possible rematch clause, is the PPV price. Because as we all know there are a lot that it is streaming it for free and it we are going to see the numbers in most recent fights, it is on a decline. The Canelo vs GGG trilogy was just over 1 million buys and if I'm not mistaken, it fell to what it is expected or predicted to be around 1.3-1.5 buys. And so maybe this could be one sticking points, how much they will charge the viewing public, do they need to increased since this is a mega fight, or it is enough for $75-$79.99 price?

[TravelMug]

And as I have said before, I suspect that one reason beside the split and possible rematch clause, is the PPV price. Because as we all know there are a lot that it is streaming it for free and it we are going to see the numbers in most recent fights, it is on a decline. The Canelo vs GGG trilogy was just over 1 million buys and if I'm not mistaken, it fell to what it is expected or predicted to be around 1.3-1.5 buys. And so maybe this could be one sticking points, how much they will charge the viewing public, do they need to increased since this is a mega fight, or it is enough for $75-$79.99 price?

I think boxing fans will have to problem purchasing the ticket and watch it thru ppv, as you have said this is a mega fight and a must watch for all of us.

So for sure it will do good numbers, above 1 Million is not that bad in my opinion.

For me this is not one issues in the negotiation, it's really the split or the network money that is going to pour here and of course they want to make sure that they will make money as the guaranteed asking price by the 2 boxers is big.

[Sanitough]

And as I have said before, I suspect that one reason beside the split and possible rematch clause, is the PPV price. Because as we all know there are a lot that it is streaming it for free and it we are going to see the numbers in most recent fights, it is on a decline. The Canelo vs GGG trilogy was just over 1 million buys and if I'm not mistaken, it fell to what it is expected or predicted to be around 1.3-1.5 buys. And so maybe this could be one sticking points, how much they will charge the viewing public, do they need to increased since this is a mega fight, or it is enough for $75-$79.99 price?

I think boxing fans will have to problem purchasing the ticket and watch it thru ppv, as you have said this is a mega fight and a must watch for all of us.

So for sure it will do good numbers, above 1 Million is not that bad in my opinion.

For me this is not one issues in the negotiation, it's really the split or the network money that is going to pour here and of course they want to make sure that they will make money as the guaranteed asking price by the 2 boxers is big.

We don't know the real reason, we have lots of speculation on why this fight will not happen. Crawford already had a scheduled fight, so I think this year we will not see this mega fight, it doesn't matter if it will take a long time for the negotiation to finalize as long it will happen, but both boxing superstars should continue to be active.

[LUCKMCFLY]

^ Again, the fight has been hype already and to that point that it seems that our waiting is turning into disappointment because of the time that we have to wait and then we don't know if who is balking or stalling or if they have the contracts but a lot of points to be cleared. Hopefully that talks is still going on secretly as they don't want to preempt to get leak to the media as this is a very important fight in the division, it's a unification fight and I don't remember when it did happen at 147 lbs.

It's been hyped since May this year and I think both camps started talking last June or July, fans have been feeling great and delighted when they knew that the deal is finally finished and both camps are just waiting for the contract but few days later, everything turns to gray as the fight is now back on square one.

Maybe it's much better to leave it as is and just wait for them whenever they are ready because I believe that they are doing anything they can, it's just there are some unexpected problems. There are some rumors that either one of the camps is stalling but sadly, we cannot verify that information.

In my opinion maybe they are delaying the fight because they all know that what ever they do fans from the both fighter will want to see this big event by the two undefeated boxers. But for sure someday or somehow this fight will be open soon.  And if we talk about the tickets sell then for sure in just an days or a weak before it available to sell it will sold out. But what we must to do right now is that to wait until they announce a final decision about this fight.

Delaying the fight is not necessary anymore, as if this fight will not be sold out once it is announced. There are big reasons behind, it's probably not because they are not yet convince they can make the target revenue in this fight but most probably the terms on both teams are not yet meet.

Probably this is the biggest stumbling block as we thought that the fight is sealed already. And yes, his might be going back into circles and really nothing is going on the negotiations. We know that this fight will be sold out in days after it will be announced. But so far, it will be delayed already, the November date could be given to other fights by the venue as for sure they will update us that it will be December and then next year, this could be the pattern, short of saying that it won't be in 2022.

I really don't think they'd do something like that, it would be like playing with people's emconies and that's not well seen, although it's like you say, you can have all the fans entertained and they can make a difference now more than ever, because in Somewhere the world will be paralyzed a bit because of what the Qatar World Cup is coming up, and that is something that many will leave other sports aside and dedicate themselves to betting per match, that is something obvious and the money will be moving in that direction, however even so, I believe that the business model of boxing does not stop and continues to expand despite, so I think they can give that gift to the fans and do it this year, I have faith that they can.

But Crawford can also move up to 154 and hunt for his 4th division title but he seriously needs a promoter to depend on.   

And of course he can find a promoter if he wants to, the job of the promoter is to sell the fight, and since Crawford is already popular and a champion, every promoter will sure be willing to invest on him.

But he has one of the best manager in boxing already in Arum, but I guess he doesn't want to be his manager again because he wants to fight Spence because Arum is not bringing him fights that he wanted.

So the next big thing for him if he wanted this fight is to join PBC, so that there's no way that Spence can escape him because they know have the same manager and probably the same network to work it, so that fight is going to be made very easy.

Easier to deal with if he will move to that same handler. A good way for him, since he's really chasing for Spence.

I follow your argument because he's not getting any younger, though he's really trying to work it out and
chase for this fight against his co-champions in this division. We might hear updates and maybe possibilities
that the fight will happen just a confirmation from both camps and it will be a done deal.

Well I really admire the ability that CRAWFORD has to try to get more out of Spence, if he does all these things, I hope that when I know of the fight it will be something spectacular that it will be almost a world event where it will be published everywhere, I don't know how much It is the obsession but clearly Crawford when doing all these things is because he has undergone a very hard training, that if they tell him that the fight is in 2 or 3 days he is already prepared, and I think that as he is, and with the intensity that he has shown, He will have the intention of training three times as hard as he has trained, with so much that he has moved that I am really gaining faith in him, But I honestly see this scenario far away, because now Crawford has looked for another way to attract attention, not fighting with Spence ...

And as I have said before, I suspect that one reason beside the split and possible rematch clause, is the PPV price. Because as we all know there are a lot that it is streaming it for free and it we are going to see the numbers in most recent fights, it is on a decline. The Canelo vs GGG trilogy was just over 1 million buys and if I'm not mistaken, it fell to what it is expected or predicted to be around 1.3-1.5 buys. And so maybe this could be one sticking points, how much they will charge the viewing public, do they need to increased since this is a mega fight, or it is enough for $75-$79.99 price?

I think boxing fans will have to problem purchasing the ticket and watch it thru ppv, as you have said this is a mega fight and a must watch for all of us.

So for sure it will do good numbers, above 1 Million is not that bad in my opinion.

For me this is not one issues in the negotiation, it's really the split or the network money that is going to pour here and of course they want to make sure that they will make money as the guaranteed asking price by the 2 boxers is big.

We don't know the real reason, we have lots of speculation on why this fight will not happen. Crawford already had a scheduled fight, so I think this year we will not see this mega fight, it doesn't matter if it will take a long time for the negotiation to finalize as long it will happen, but both boxing superstars should continue to be active.

I think that Crawford is very skilled, he has been ´preparing for this fight, Spence knows it, for Spence it is something that is not so relevant, because he knows very well that if Crawford achieves more fame it is better for him, but what bad thing is, that if Crawford gets a lot of fame and doesn't want to fight him, just when Spence even wants to, this will cause much more emotion, I think Crawford is doing very well, on an intellectual level he is a very strategist. Of course what I say is mere speculation, the background of this may be other things that we are not even a little lukewarm about what we say here, and since they are so famous, they understand each other.

[aioc]

And as I have said before, I suspect that one reason beside the split and possible rematch clause, is the PPV price. Because as we all know there are a lot that it is streaming it for free and it we are going to see the numbers in most recent fights, it is on a decline. The Canelo vs GGG trilogy was just over 1 million buys and if I'm not mistaken, it fell to what it is expected or predicted to be around 1.3-1.5 buys. And so maybe this could be one sticking points, how much they will charge the viewing public, do they need to increased since this is a mega fight, or it is enough for $75-$79.99 price?

I think boxing fans will have to problem purchasing the ticket and watch it thru ppv, as you have said this is a mega fight and a must watch for all of us.

So for sure it will do good numbers, above 1 Million is not that bad in my opinion.

For me this is not one issues in the negotiation, it's really the split or the network money that is going to pour here and of course they want to make sure that they will make money as the guaranteed asking price by the 2 boxers is big.

We don't know the real reason, we have lots of speculation on why this fight will not happen. Crawford already had a scheduled fight, so I think this year we will not see this mega fight, it doesn't matter if it will take a long time for the negotiation to finalize as long it will happen, but both boxing superstars should continue to be active.

Crawford is the first one to move on by signing a contract to fight Avanesyan he wants to be active again Avanesyan is a good challenge but not the kind of fighter that is a big threat to his crown, I think Spence will likely follow by fighting this year or next year against another fighter, hopefully, he will fight Ennis, as he is a real deal in the welterweight division.
I'm sure they will go back in the table again to discuss the fight again.

[carlisle1]

And as I have said before, I suspect that one reason beside the split and possible rematch clause, is the PPV price. Because as we all know there are a lot that it is streaming it for free and it we are going to see the numbers in most recent fights, it is on a decline. The Canelo vs GGG trilogy was just over 1 million buys and if I'm not mistaken, it fell to what it is expected or predicted to be around 1.3-1.5 buys. And so maybe this could be one sticking points, how much they will charge the viewing public, do they need to increased since this is a mega fight, or it is enough for $75-$79.99 price?

I think boxing fans will have to problem purchasing the ticket and watch it thru ppv, as you have said this is a mega fight and a must watch for all of us.

So for sure it will do good numbers, above 1 Million is not that bad in my opinion.

For me this is not one issues in the negotiation, it's really the split or the network money that is going to pour here and of course they want to make sure that they will make money as the guaranteed asking price by the 2 boxers is big.

We don't know the real reason, we have lots of speculation on why this fight will not happen. Crawford already had a scheduled fight, so I think this year we will not see this mega fight, it doesn't matter if it will take a long time for the negotiation to finalize as long it will happen, but both boxing superstars should continue to be active.

Crawford is the first one to move on by signing a contract to fight Avanesyan he wants to be active again Avanesyan is a good challenge but not the kind of fighter that is a big threat to his crown, I think Spence will likely follow by fighting this year or next year against another fighter, hopefully, he will fight Ennis, as he is a real deal in the welterweight division.
I'm sure they will go back in the table again to discuss the fight again.

Crawford wants to be back inside the ring. The negotiations between his camp and Spence are still pending or no finalization.
signing a contract with another challenger is the only way for Crawford to get his desire.

Spence may follow this move from Crawford and the negotiation in between will be discussed or will be open in public once both fighters are already
finished their respective fights.

For the meantime, this fight will be parked unless there's any further news and updates with regard to this match. It will be announced, or another rumor will come up around the social media channels.

[Japinat]

And as I have said before, I suspect that one reason beside the split and possible rematch clause, is the PPV price. Because as we all know there are a lot that it is streaming it for free and it we are going to see the numbers in most recent fights, it is on a decline. The Canelo vs GGG trilogy was just over 1 million buys and if I'm not mistaken, it fell to what it is expected or predicted to be around 1.3-1.5 buys. And so maybe this could be one sticking points, how much they will charge the viewing public, do they need to increased since this is a mega fight, or it is enough for $75-$79.99 price?

I think boxing fans will have to problem purchasing the ticket and watch it thru ppv, as you have said this is a mega fight and a must watch for all of us.

So for sure it will do good numbers, above 1 Million is not that bad in my opinion.

For me this is not one issues in the negotiation, it's really the split or the network money that is going to pour here and of course they want to make sure that they will make money as the guaranteed asking price by the 2 boxers is big.

We don't know the real reason, we have lots of speculation on why this fight will not happen. Crawford already had a scheduled fight, so I think this year we will not see this mega fight, it doesn't matter if it will take a long time for the negotiation to finalize as long it will happen, but both boxing superstars should continue to be active.

I honestly wanted to see this undisputed fight while Spence and Crawford are still hot and agile especially that the latter is not as young as Spence. Someday if their fight happens, it won't be the same anymore. We don't who's who that plays the card behind the scenes to delay the fight but we sure know that the fans are not happy with the outcome. For now, let's move on because Crawford already has a scheduled fight this December.

[harizen]

Yes, this fight is now "OFFICIALLY FAILED" to happen this year. We don't even know if it will happen next year as that will depend on the result of their respective fight. Currently, Crawford is the first one who moves on with this fight and now officially has the next fight in December. On the other hand, Spence Jr. doesn't confirm yet any details of his next plan either if he will fight this year or not.

The reason for the failed negotiations is unknown and likely they will not disclose it to the public.

Spence blames Crawford. Crawford blames Spence. Much better if they won't do a blaming game and just continue on their next plan.

[goinmerry]

For the meantime, this fight will be parked unless there's any further news and updates with regard to this match. It will be announced, or another rumor will come up around the social media channels.

And that rumors will surely be circulated next year if Crawford will win against Avanesyan in December and Spence will also win in his next fight.

I just wonder what will happen if Crawford loses against Avanesyan. That's a big news.

Spence might have an easy match for an undisputed Welterweight bout for let's say he will wait for the winner of this match and not fight another boxer yet.