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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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September 20, 2022, 01:28:17 PM
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Chelsea already had two big setbacks in this group of the Champions League,
I think that not only Chelsea is in danger of being eliminated and failing to qualify for the Champions League group stage, I see that there are several other clubs that may have bad luck as predicted for Chelsea.

According to my observation the setback of the Atletico Madrid team, also has a bad impact on them, currently Atletico are in Group B, if they don't show good results in the future this can have a bad impact on Atletico in the Champions League, then Juventus they also got off to a bad start after losing 2-0 to Paris Saint-Germain and also when Juventus were beaten by Benfica 2-1 earlier, this was a bad thing for the Juventus team in the Champions league.

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September 20, 2022, 01:48:00 PM
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Not only in the Champions League but also in the Premier League, Chelsea's performance has been poor. And if such poor performances continue, Chelsea will not qualify for the next round it is certain. They changed coaches. A new coach also needs time to get to know the players and find out the team's weaknesses. So I don't think Chelsea's performance will stabilize so quickly. Chelsea dropped points in the Champions League home match against Salzburg. I think they will lose points in away matches too.

It was the result of Chelsea's choice of new owner. Actually, I feel unsure of Graham Potter's experience. It was even possible that it was the first game at UCL Potter. Tuchel's dismissal was actually not appropriate. Maybe it's because I was surprised. Why did Chelsea choose a coach worse than they already had before? Tuchel's a good coach, he just hasn't had any luck in a few games. Besides, I also don't understand their transfer policy. even if they didn't prepare well. Or maybe Tuchel wasn't given the funds to buy it. I didn't get the news.
Previously I also thought like that but after getting information about Todd Boehly who did a complete overhaul, then Tuchel's dismissal had to be carried out by Todd Boehly although I also still haven't received the decision. Due to the fact that Tuchel and Todd Boehly do not have the same thought and way of building a team, with these differences, Todd Boehly wants a coach who can have a way that is at least in line with his wishes. So let's just wait for their next performance, but I also don't believe Chelsea will be able to qualify at this moment.

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September 20, 2022, 02:30:27 PM
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Not only in the Champions League but also in the Premier League, Chelsea's performance has been poor. And if such poor performances continue, Chelsea will not qualify for the next round it is certain. They changed coaches. A new coach also needs time to get to know the players and find out the team's weaknesses. So I don't think Chelsea's performance will stabilize so quickly. Chelsea dropped points in the Champions League home match against Salzburg. I think they will lose points in away matches too.

Chelsea’s performance in the champions league as well as in the premier league has not been all that great. They have played poorly as lost a lot of games as a result. It may very well be as a result of the recent change in coaches but that alone hasn’t been the cause of their recent losses both in the premier leagues as well as in the champions league. If they keep at it, they would surely lose out in their quest for the champions league trophy. They’ve got some good players that are able to turn things around. I think the new coach needs some time to settle and actually know the team and formulate strategies to help turn things around for the better.
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September 20, 2022, 03:22:16 PM
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I think that not only Chelsea is in danger of being eliminated and failing to qualify for the Champions League group stage, I see that there are several other clubs that may have bad luck as predicted for Chelsea.

According to my observation the setback of the Atletico Madrid team, also has a bad impact on them, currently Atletico are in Group B, if they don't show good results in the future this can have a bad impact on Atletico in the Champions League, then Juventus they also got off to a bad start after losing 2-0 to Paris Saint-Germain and also when Juventus were beaten by Benfica 2-1 earlier, this was a bad thing for the Juventus team in the Champions league.

In my opinion, despite the last place with 1 point, Chelsea are in the safest position and have great chances not only to leave the group to the playoffs, but to do so from the first place. Only 3 points to the first place - this is one victory in a face-to-face meeting. The rest of the teams except Milan are typical underdogs who can take one game but have no chance in the fight even at such a short distance.

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September 20, 2022, 03:31:10 PM
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It was the result of Chelsea's choice of new owner. Actually, I feel unsure of Graham Potter's experience. It was even possible that it was the first game at UCL Potter. Tuchel's dismissal was actually not appropriate. Maybe it's because I was surprised. Why did Chelsea choose a coach worse than they already had before? Tuchel's a good coach, he just hasn't had any luck in a few games. Besides, I also don't understand their transfer policy. even if they didn't prepare well. Or maybe Tuchel wasn't given the funds to buy it. I didn't get the news.

From a pure performance point of view i also think that it was completely inappropriate to fire Thomas Tuchel because even after their pretty bad start into this season FC Chelsea still performed way better than in the time before Tuchel became their coach. We should not forget that Thomas Tuchel came to a FC Chelsea that was in a very bad position both in the Premier League and in the Champions League too, where no one gave them a chance to get very far. Tuchel managed to make every player better and was extremely successful. He managed to finish the premier league on the 4th position and even to win the CL back then, which was incredible. I think Tuchel should have had more credit because of that.
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September 20, 2022, 05:07:28 PM
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It was the result of Chelsea's choice of new owner. Actually, I feel unsure of Graham Potter's experience. It was even possible that it was the first game at UCL Potter. Tuchel's dismissal was actually not appropriate. Maybe it's because I was surprised. Why did Chelsea choose a coach worse than they already had before? Tuchel's a good coach, he just hasn't had any luck in a few games. Besides, I also don't understand their transfer policy. even if they didn't prepare well. Or maybe Tuchel wasn't given the funds to buy it. I didn't get the news.

What team would bring someone new who is not up to the standard of the person he is replacing? Chelsea did not choose a coach who is worse than the previous one. Graham Potter should be given the benefit of doubt because he recently joined the club and it's possible that he doesn't yet have a complete understanding of the entire team. In the upcoming two games, he should be given a chance to demonstrate his managing abilities. He would not want to risk losing his job by failing to help Chelsea advance from the group stage of the Champions League. Chelsea urgently needs him to help them. As a predictor who is well-known in the sport of football, I am confident he will advance the squad to the next round.

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September 20, 2022, 05:30:52 PM
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The opportunity for that is still there but it's certainly not like turning the palm of the hand because when you look at the conditions it's quite clear that Barcelona is now better than Inter.
I personally will still be at Barcelona's side in this case because I think they still have more chances than Inter at the moment.

In the world of football anything is possible, but if we do research like you said the answer is clear Barcelona are better than Inter.
Barcelona's squad is better than Inter, then Barcelona's performance is also more consistent. We can see how Inter were very inconsistent
when playing in Serie A, currently Inter are in 7th position. It is very different from the performance shown by Barcelona, ​​where Barcelona
in La Liga has impressed by winning 5 times in a row. What's interesting is that Barcelona and Inter were both beaten by Bayern, meaning
the top spot will likely belong to Bayern. Then Barcelona and Inter have to fight for the runner-up position to be able to qualify from
the group phase, that's what will make the Inter vs Barcelona match going to be interesting. But I still believe Barcelona will beat Inter,
but surprises can happen, so Barcelona must be careful when facing Inter.
It's true that anything is possible in football but the problem is when we look at the current state of Barcelona and Inter it's clear the difference is still big even though they are big teams.
Currently Inzaghi is in a bad condition because Inter's performance is not going well and this will obviously affect their performance.
I'll still be in Barcelona on this.

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September 20, 2022, 05:58:42 PM
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It was the result of Chelsea's choice of new owner. Actually, I feel unsure of Graham Potter's experience. It was even possible that it was the first game at UCL Potter. Tuchel's dismissal was actually not appropriate. Maybe it's because I was surprised. Why did Chelsea choose a coach worse than they already had before? Tuchel's a good coach, he just hasn't had any luck in a few games. Besides, I also don't understand their transfer policy. even if they didn't prepare well. Or maybe Tuchel wasn't given the funds to buy it. I didn't get the news.

From a pure performance point of view i also think that it was completely inappropriate to fire Thomas Tuchel because even after their pretty bad start into this season FC Chelsea still performed way better than in the time before Tuchel became their coach. We should not forget that Thomas Tuchel came to a FC Chelsea that was in a very bad position both in the Premier League and in the Champions League too, where no one gave them a chance to get very far. Tuchel managed to make every player better and was extremely successful. He managed to finish the premier league on the 4th position and even to win the CL back then, which was incredible. I think Tuchel should have had more credit because of that.
Honestly sacking Thomas Tuchel is too hasty, he should have been given some more time maybe he will turnaround and reposition the club to regain their winning mentality, of course he is well experience and knows the  nitty gritty of the game, unfortunately Todd Boehly couldn't exercise some patience thus appointed Graham Potter as their manager, will Potter going to make any difference? I don't think so, their last UCL match against a lowly rated RB Salzburg was a good reference to poor tactics that culminated to their playing a draw, with Tuchel in charge I believe Chelsea will the match.

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September 20, 2022, 06:34:23 PM
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Chelsea should of course have won the game easily. It fits Chelsea's pattern this year. Lots of sloppiness and bad results, also against lesser teams in the CL. Chelsea didn't have a difficult group in the CL, but as they now have only 1 point after 2 games, they will have to work hard to make it to the next round. AC Milan will qualify, but Chelsea still have a long way to go. I think on paper this is even the weakest group of all the groups in the CL. If they don't win the next match either, then they can forget about it as the remaining 3 matches won't all win.

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September 20, 2022, 07:04:49 PM
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Not only in the Champions League but also in the Premier League, Chelsea's performance has been poor. And if such poor performances continue, Chelsea will not qualify for the next round it is certain. They changed coaches. A new coach also needs time to get to know the players and find out the team's weaknesses. So I don't think Chelsea's performance will stabilize so quickly. Chelsea dropped points in the Champions League home match against Salzburg. I think they will lose points in away matches too.

Yes, Chelsea started this season very disappointingly. I think Chelsea will be very difficult to compete this season, even though at the moment they have also changed managers. Now the Blues are no longer respected, but the most likely target for them to pursue is to qualify for the knockout phase, but even then I think it will be very difficult if they don't improve their performance.
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September 20, 2022, 07:24:42 PM
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Chelsea should of course have won the game easily. It fits Chelsea's pattern this year. Lots of sloppiness and bad results, also against lesser teams in the CL. Chelsea didn't have a difficult group in the CL, but as they now have only 1 point after 2 games, they will have to work hard to make it to the next round. AC Milan will qualify, but Chelsea still have a long way to go. I think on paper this is even the weakest group of all the groups in the CL. If they don't win the next match either, then they can forget about it as the remaining 3 matches won't all win.
in terms of quality Chelsea are far superior but their team is not doing well with a series of bad results and a recent change of coach, the Champions League stage has high tension and in my opinion any surprises are still possible and there is no guarantee for Chelsea to qualify easily.
I even think that Chelsea's chances of qualifying are still 50-50 even though on paper they have good quality.
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September 20, 2022, 07:31:32 PM
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Chelsea should of course have won the game easily. It fits Chelsea's pattern this year. Lots of sloppiness and bad results, also against lesser teams in the CL. Chelsea didn't have a difficult group in the CL, but as they now have only 1 point after 2 games, they will have to work hard to make it to the next round. AC Milan will qualify, but Chelsea still have a long way to go. I think on paper this is even the weakest group of all the groups in the CL. If they don't win the next match either, then they can forget about it as the remaining 3 matches won't all win.
Chelsea is not inform at the moment,they are losing to teams they are not supposed lose to.They have now sacked their coach that every body likes just because he hasnt deliver after the first five matches,they did not allow him give them a pattern that will suits them,and I am pretty sure that this new coach that was signed from Brighton cannot lead them to where they want to reach,and I'm not sure they will qualify for champions league this season because of their inconsistency.They might end up not qualifying from the group stage,and it will be very bad.
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September 20, 2022, 07:44:35 PM
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I'm still pretty optimistic Chelsea will qualify from the group stage, maybe won't be the winners in Group E, but at least Chelsea can be runners-up.
Indeed, it seems that AC Milan has a pretty big chance as the team that is in the top position in Group E. But it could be a surprise when Chelsea
face AC Milan in the third match of the Champions League, indeed AC Milan is more favored, but don't forget Chelsea have players whose quality is
better than AC Milan. It all depends on the playing strategy that Graham Potter will use when facing AC Milan.
Man, when comparing Chelsea with Milan, then convince yourself that Milan is not too bad to be called better than Chelsea. The condition of the team they have is very different even if you think Chelsea players are more capable while Milan are not. I just think some of the Chelsea players are better known because they are in the top teams of the Premier League at the moment, but the Milan players have a better organization of team play than Chelsea.

You can probably expect Chelsea to qualify from the group stage if Salzburg and Dinamo Zegreb don't perform better on matchday 3 and 4. If Dinamo Zegreb play well and win then I believe Chelsea will be even more difficult to qualify unless they won't lose in the next 4 match.

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September 20, 2022, 07:46:01 PM
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There have been few surprises in the Champions League so far. You do see some results that you did not expect, but they are not real surprises either. Chelsea's draw was bad. I think the biggest surprise so far is Liverpool's 4-1 defeat at Napoli. Ajax now has a big problem, because they would actually fight for 2nd place in advance together with Napoli. We can write off Rangers. Ajax was superior in the CL last year, but they actually had no chance against Liverpool, although it had to take until the 98th minute for Liverpool to win. Chelsea could still qualify, but then they have to win.

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September 20, 2022, 07:47:16 PM
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It's a shame that Chelsea's current position is very difficult to qualify for the group. I think this season has been the worst season for chelsea. but actually chelsea still have a chance to qualify for the group stage. ie have to win twice against AC Milan. only then can chelsea escape. but it's a tough task. and I think AC Milan will beat Chelsea. so it can be said that chelsea has no hope of surviving in the champions league. Or it could be said that the hope is very slim. because after all beating AC Milan is very difficult for Chelsea now.
Even though their job may seem very difficult mathematically, there are always miracles. I don't think they will be weak against Milan. Chelsea is a team with a top quality squad and good players. They can beat Milan in both games. They can easily come out of the ordinary they are in right now. I think they will also win the Dinamo and Salzburg games. So there is a good chance that they will leave the group, in my opinion. If they can't get out of the group, we will watch in the Europa League.
Mathematically Chelsea still have a chance went to next round only if they can wins in the rest of matches but with their current condition which still adapt after changed manager it is hard for them to wins 4 matches in a row even more likely they will slipped especially against Milan that currently Milan was more stable although they just lose from Napoli in Serie A but Milan clearly better than Chelsea and actually Chelsea have decent squad to competed in this competition but because too many internal issues which makes this team cannot showed their best performance for each matches

Not only in the Champions League but also in the Premier League, Chelsea's performance has been poor. And if such poor performances continue, Chelsea will not qualify for the next round it is certain. They changed coaches. A new coach also needs time to get to know the players and find out the team's weaknesses. So I don't think Chelsea's performance will stabilize so quickly. Chelsea dropped points in the Champions League home match against Salzburg. I think they will lose points in away matches too.

Yes, Chelsea started this season very disappointingly.  I think Chelsea will be very difficult to compete this season, even though at the moment they have also changed managers.  Now the Blues are no longer respected, but the most likely target for them to pursue is to qualify for the knockout phase, but even then I think it will be very difficult if they don't improve their performance.
The problem with most of Chelsea's manager is the inability to control the dressing room. Tuchel might have helped a great deal last season and still tried his best this season before he was replaced, any new manager should know that if he is to succeed at the bridge, he must be able to take control of the dressing room during games.  They however, still have a fighting chance if they can compose themselves more. A win is needed Chelsea!

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September 20, 2022, 08:17:57 PM
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After two rounds of competition, Graham Potter's debut as Chelsea's head coach ended in a demoralizing 1-1 home tie against Red Bull Salzburg, placing the Blues at the bottom of Group E. I'm not really sure what the issue with Chelsea right now, but I believe it's not the coach's fault; rather, the squad may be to blame since Kante is in injury and there's nothing remarkable going on in that midfield right now, especially since jorjinho isn't doing much.

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Chelsea already had two big setbacks in this group of the Champions League, against Dinamo and Salzburg, and their most difficult games against Milan are yet to come.
It seems to me that Chelsea was not fully ready to start this season, they got a new coach and they are not playing at the highest level yet.
However, they don't have much time left to prepare and if they fail to beat Milan they will be in very big trouble for the rest of the Champions League group stage and may not even qualify for the Champions League knockout stage.

It is shocking to see how Chelsea have declined drastically from formal Champions league and super cup winners before Real Madrid last season to become a struggling side, so much to get a point from two Champions league group games. I wonder what could be the cause of the sudden decline in form this season which even led to the sacking of Thomas Tuchel, I really hope Graham will make an impact for Chelsea as he did for Brighton.

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September 20, 2022, 09:18:41 PM
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It's true that anything is possible in football but the problem is when we look at the current state of Barcelona and Inter it's clear the difference is still big even though they are big teams.
Currently Inzaghi is in a bad condition because Inter's performance is not going well and this will obviously affect their performance.
I'll still be in Barcelona on this.
I would bet on Barcelona as well and I agree that anything could happen, but let's not forget that Barcelona is a freshly built team, a lot of their players came during the summer transfer window, some of them even later, which means that they haven't had the time to build chemistry yet which shows itself time to time, especially during the Bayern game for example.

So, if there is any chance for Inter to win, it is now because on the second leg there could be a better Barcelona who played together for a while now and built the bond inside the team, Inter needs to get points from this or they are going to end up losing a lot worse on the second game for sure.

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It is shocking to see how Chelsea have declined drastically from formal Champions league and super cup winners before Real Madrid last season to become a struggling side, so much to get a point from two Champions league group games. I wonder what could be the cause of the sudden decline in form this season which even led to the sacking of Thomas Tuchel, I really hope Graham will make an impact for Chelsea as he did for Brighton.
The loss of several important players is the cause of Chelsea's decline in performance so far. Chelsea let go of some of their defenders for free, it was a mistake they made. Then their squad depth so far is no better than last season although some of their signings have been quite successful this season.

Aubameyang hasn't given his maximum contribution as a striker, he hasn't done his best for Chelsea like he did at Barcelona. The lack of goals scored by the strikers made it difficult for Chelsea to win match, it had an impact on all the competitions they played in. I don't think Potter has been able to reverse Chelsea's slump but he could be one of those coaches who will try to give something genuine to improve because of his form because Potter is so passionate about it.

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September 20, 2022, 11:43:07 PM
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After two rounds of competition, Graham Potter's debut as Chelsea's head coach ended in a demoralizing 1-1 home tie against Red Bull Salzburg, placing the Blues at the bottom of Group E. I'm not really sure what the issue with Chelsea right now, but I believe it's not the coach's fault; rather, the squad may be to blame since Kante is in injury and there's nothing remarkable going on in that midfield right now, especially since jorjinho isn't doing much.
The midfielder players from chelsea seem pretty much useless right now. it can't create a golden chance for the striker to create a goal. Im sure that people aware about this since there's no kante in the club and the performance has become a horrible thing for now.
The new coach gives no contribution to the play style of chelsea. If people aware this and yeah that proves that changing the coach was not the answer. Tuchel was still good for chelsea but he needs more time to change everything in the club since the owner transition.

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