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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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September 21, 2022, 07:36:32 PM
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There was a pause of almost 2 weeks more. This week there is no UCL schedule and we will be back in October. Quite a long pause. The top clubs can concentrate in their respective Leagues.
The 3rd game of october doesn't seem to have a big enough game. Maybe Chelsea against Milan was quite an interesting game for me. Madrid, PSG, Munich, Man City didn't have a big opponent, I think they were capable of winning.
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September 21, 2022, 08:05:32 PM
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There was a pause of almost 2 weeks more. This week there is no UCL schedule and we will be back in October. Quite a long pause. The top clubs can concentrate in their respective Leagues.
Apart from the Champions League, then I think you should know that the domestic leagues are also on a hiatus considering there is a UEFA National League competition going on.

Champions League is coming back in October and I think we will be looking forward to some interesting match, especially for the big teams. Manchester City, Real Madrid, Barcelona, ​​Liverpool, PSG, Bayern Munich are some of the teams whose matches I'm looking forward to.

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September 21, 2022, 09:08:59 PM
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I'm surprised that people talk about Chelsea's chances in Champions League for more than two pages long here. I don't even think they are in top 12 contenders if I'd list them. Most people think Chelsea would qualify this group with Milan but their loss against Dinamo Zagreb and a draw with Salzburg already made it harder for them. Their group is relatively easier but they failed in first two matches and now they have to put extra effort to win games. Even if they managed to turn this situation they would get crushed in next round. There are a lot of great teams that fight for the title. This is Graham Potter's first experience in big clubs. It's not like managing Brighton & Hove Albion. He needs time and experience. It's unfair to expect big things from him in first season.

They don't even have creative midfielder's, not even a top number nine as Erling Haaland of Manchester City. They have a lot of work to do. They shouldn't just bring in player's, they should bring in the right player's who can rep the club.
Graham Potter might turn the odds all round, since he has done well at Leicester City, I believe he can still at Chelsea. Chelsea should just expect some downs this season coz they won't be as they was last season.

In the Champions League ? That's laughable, how do they analyse football ? There are top clubs far better than Chelsea currently, they are not on line for that competition no shades.

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September 21, 2022, 09:12:21 PM
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Basically Chelsea are in a group where Chelsea can be group winners, Milan, Zagreb and Salzburg are basically of lower quality than Chelsea. Therefore, if it is about the results on paper then of course Chelsea will be able to win the group and also, if you relate it is a weak or strong group then I can say this is an easy group for Chelsea. But the reality is not as easy as imagined because even Chelsea are in the bottom position and still haven't won a match from the two opponents they have faced, both of which are clearly below Chelsea's quality.
The potential is there, they could be leaders of that group, but unfortunately they have been playing badly all season so far, and I wouldn't be shocked to see them second, I doubt third would be possible that's a stretch but nothing is impossible in football.

So far they got one tie and one loss, and at the bottom of the group, and there are 4 more games left which means if they win all four then they would be leaders, but they look like they are not going to do that at all, they look like they would barely go to europa if they keep this up. I feel like there is an urgent need for them to get better and because of that it is going to be tough to have even a little mistake.
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September 22, 2022, 12:04:49 AM
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Their group is relatively easier but they failed in first two matches and now they have to put extra effort to win games. Even if they managed to turn this situation they would get crushed in next round. There are a lot of great teams that fight for the title. This is Graham Potter's first experience in big clubs. It's not like managing Brighton & Hove Albion. He needs time and experience. It's unfair to expect big things from him in first season.

that's better rather than expect nothing to come from him. Yeah he was new but it's his responsibility to bring chelsea to go to the next stage even he was a new coach and it doesn't matter a lot. I think that you must also aware about this too.
Chelse was hiring him caused by chelsea's management believes in him. I think that's fair to expect big thing from him in a short time. Chelsea was also paying him to work. That's his responsibility over his new club.

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September 22, 2022, 04:28:36 AM
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The other sick team in the group stage this time is Juventus, but even though Juventus have not got any points because the opponent is PSG and only lost 2-1, but losing at home by Benfica with a score of 2-1 is certainly not the expected result. When compared to Chelsea, at least the opponents facing Juventus are of better quality especially with PSG, both teams Juventus and Chelsea were projected to qualify for the group at the time of the draw but in reality they slipped too far. Who would have thought this would happen to them, for Chelsea I am personally a little optimistic that Chelsea will still qualify but for Juventus, I am already pessimistic about Juventus.
I noticed this is their worst performance from the last 10 years on champion league because before this usually Juventus always went to the next round and apparently this season isn't belongs to them and i will say Juventus one of the big team who probably will not go to knockout stage this season because lose 2 times in a row makes their position is hard to bounce back even we all know at their domestic league Juventus also have poor performance so in my opinion Juventus is done at this competition and their realistic position is only 3rd

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September 22, 2022, 04:49:09 AM
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I noticed this is their worst performance from the last 10 years on champion league because before this usually Juventus always went to the next round and apparently this season isn't belongs to them and i will say Juventus one of the big team who probably will not go to knockout stage this season because lose 2 times in a row makes their position is hard to bounce back even we all know at their domestic league Juventus also have poor performance so in my opinion Juventus is done at this competition and their realistic position is only 3rd
I wouldn't judge Juventus so quickly because there are 4 games in the group stage that might still be used to earn points. There are still at least 12 points up for grabs between the 6 teams in the group stage before 2 teams qualify for the round of 16 and 1 other team goes down to the Europa League.

Juventus couldn't relax any longer with this poor form and I firmly believe that Allegri will make many changes so that the team's performance can be better. In Serie A Juventus also dropped points, but that shouldn't affect their form in the Champions League too much.

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September 22, 2022, 04:59:34 AM
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I'm surprised that people talk about Chelsea's chances in Champions League for more than two pages long here. I don't even think they are in top 12 contenders if I'd list them. Most people think Chelsea would qualify this group with Milan but their loss against Dinamo Zagreb and a draw with Salzburg already made it harder for them. Their group is relatively easier but they failed in first two matches and now they have to put extra effort to win games. Even if they managed to turn this situation they would get crushed in next round. There are a lot of great teams that fight for the title. This is Graham Potter's first experience in big clubs. It's not like managing Brighton & Hove Albion. He needs time and experience. It's unfair to expect big things from him in first season.

I don't think, Chelsea will demonstrate well in this season because they are experiencing many challenges in the club that will make them not to achieve anything from this season. If small teams can defeated mighty Chelsea in this season, showed that many things has changed negatively in the club which their new coach need to solve on time to bring progress to the club like the way Manchester united new coach changed Manchester united positively in this season. If Chelsea can improve in the areas of defense and midfield before their remaining matches, no doubt they will definitely achieve something good from this tournament.

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September 22, 2022, 06:38:59 AM
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But the fact is always different, in fact, just look at Chelsea now that they are not so dominant because they have never won in two UCL matches in the EPL and Chelsea still haven't found an exit point for a straight path where the victory is obtained but this result is still not optimal.
For me, the Champions League is different, meaning that we think that a small team can beat the team above it because the game in the UCL is really tight, it can turn around, including Chelsea who are still not capable, even though what we see is that they can qualify in this group phase.
However Chelsea still have a wide chance of qualifying, as long as the upcoming match wins and wins so on, that's just Graham Potter how to do it.
Left 3 points from Milan right now I think not difficult situation faced by Chelsea although still not won in last two match after 1 draw and 1 lost of two games. However next match Chelsea vs Milan become crucial match for Chelsea if want keep existing in Champion League until to the next round. I think Graham Potter have many days for evaluating his player ready fight with Milan and won this games if wont left Champion League early.

Chelsea can lead first standing position awhile in Group E if success win from Milan and another games between Salzburg vs Dynamo Zagreb have draw. If next match win from Milan will easy for Chelsea keep lead to next round but will difficult choose keep failure take 3 points full on third games in Champion League.

Currently, Chelsea is at the bottom of the group, so if they do not win, they will definitely be in trouble. I actually thought that Milan was going to be the main competitor for Chelsea before the season started. But Chelsea is now absolutely at the bottom of the table, and they have been unable to win either of the two matches that they have played so far. There is a good chance that Chelsea will be able to make a comeback. At the moment, the only problem they are facing is that they are still in a rebuilding phase.

As soon as they start performing consistently, I do not think that there is anything to worry about. However, I am not convinced about their strategy under Potter, so I am still very skeptical that they will actually improve.

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September 22, 2022, 07:42:30 AM
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But the fact is always different, in fact, just look at Chelsea now that they are not so dominant because they have never won in two UCL matches in the EPL and Chelsea still haven't found an exit point for a straight path where the victory is obtained but this result is still not optimal.
For me, the Champions League is different, meaning that we think that a small team can beat the team above it because the game in the UCL is really tight, it can turn around, including Chelsea who are still not capable, even though what we see is that they can qualify in this group phase.
However Chelsea still have a wide chance of qualifying, as long as the upcoming match wins and wins so on, that's just Graham Potter how to do it.
Left 3 points from Milan right now I think not difficult situation faced by Chelsea although still not won in last two match after 1 draw and 1 lost of two games. However next match Chelsea vs Milan become crucial match for Chelsea if want keep existing in Champion League until to the next round. I think Graham Potter have many days for evaluating his player ready fight with Milan and won this games if wont left Champion League early.

Chelsea can lead first standing position awhile in Group E if success win from Milan and another games between Salzburg vs Dynamo Zagreb have draw. If next match win from Milan will easy for Chelsea keep lead to next round but will difficult choose keep failure take 3 points full on third games in Champion League.

Currently, Chelsea is at the bottom of the group, so if they do not win, they will definitely be in trouble. I actually thought that Milan was going to be the main competitor for Chelsea before the season started. But Chelsea is now absolutely at the bottom of the table, and they have been unable to win either of the two matches that they have played so far. There is a good chance that Chelsea will be able to make a comeback. At the moment, the only problem they are facing is that they are still in a rebuilding phase.

As soon as they start performing consistently, I do not think that there is anything to worry about. However, I am not convinced about their strategy under Potter, so I am still very skeptical that they will actually improve.

I think this rebuilding phase is taking to long,beside that they are very poor in attack and in Champions League the attack is the primary "department" that gives you the goals and wins which are vital here.As long as Chelsea continues to have problems to score goals even in the Premier League against weaker opponents then in Champions League we should expect them to not do any better and most likely the maximum they can achieve as I said is a place in Europa League but even that has a big question mark for now.

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I'm surprised that people talk about Chelsea's chances in Champions League for more than two pages long here. I don't even think they are in top 12 contenders if I'd list them. Most people think Chelsea would qualify this group with Milan but their loss against Dinamo Zagreb and a draw with Salzburg already made it harder for them. Their group is relatively easier but they failed in first two matches and now they have to put extra effort to win games. Even if they managed to turn this situation they would get crushed in next round. There are a lot of great teams that fight for the title. This is Graham Potter's first experience in big clubs. It's not like managing Brighton & Hove Albion. He needs time and experience. It's unfair to expect big things from him in first season.

I don't think, Chelsea will demonstrate well in this season because they are experiencing many challenges in the club that will make them not to achieve anything from this season. If small teams can defeated mighty Chelsea in this season, showed that many things has changed negatively in the club which their new coach need to solve on time to bring progress to the club like the way Manchester united new coach changed Manchester united positively in this season. If Chelsea can improve in the areas of defense and midfield before their remaining matches, no doubt they will definitely achieve something good from this tournament.

The expectations for Chelsea this season shouldn't be high both in English Premier League and in champions league. The mistake of Chelsea was to sack Tuchel, I am.habing the feelings that they will regret it. It doesn't  mean that Potter is not a good coach, but I think he needs time to introduce his pattern to the team and that time is not there for him. It would have been easier for Tuchel to upturn the poor form of Chelsea  than any other coach.

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I'm surprised that people talk about Chelsea's chances in Champions League for more than two pages long here. I don't even think they are in top 12 contenders if I'd list them. Most people think Chelsea would qualify this group with Milan but their loss against Dinamo Zagreb and a draw with Salzburg already made it harder for them. Their group is relatively easier but they failed in first two matches and now they have to put extra effort to win games. Even if they managed to turn this situation they would get crushed in next round. There are a lot of great teams that fight for the title. This is Graham Potter's first experience in big clubs. It's not like managing Brighton & Hove Albion. He needs time and experience. It's unfair to expect big things from him in first season.

I don't think, Chelsea will demonstrate well in this season because they are experiencing many challenges in the club that will make them not to achieve anything from this season. If small teams can defeated mighty Chelsea in this season, showed that many things has changed negatively in the club which their new coach need to solve on time to bring progress to the club like the way Manchester united new coach changed Manchester united positively in this season. If Chelsea can improve in the areas of defense and midfield before their remaining matches, no doubt they will definitely achieve something good from this tournament.

The expectations for Chelsea this season shouldn't be high both in English Premier League and in champions league. The mistake of Chelsea was to sack Tuchel, I am.habing the feelings that they will regret it. It doesn't  mean that Potter is not a good coach, but I think he needs time to introduce his pattern to the team and that time is not there for him. It would have been easier for Tuchel to upturn the poor form of Chelsea  than any other coach.
Chelsea was not patient enough to give Tuchel sometime to fixed the team in order so they had to sack him. Chelsea took a risk by removing him not considering to know if the new coach will be able to make the team to be in a good form. It is not an easy job for new coach to change the performance of a team within  a short time,  sometime it can take a coach if not the whole of a season trying to fixed the team better. The probability of Chelsea securing a better position in Premier league and champions league is high, am not surprised if they are being defeated by small teams.

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September 22, 2022, 09:18:47 AM
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It's true that anything is possible in football but the problem is when we look at the current state of Barcelona and Inter it's clear the difference is still big even though they are big teams.
Currently Inzaghi is in a bad condition because Inter's performance is not going well and this will obviously affect their performance.
I'll still be in Barcelona on this.
I would bet on Barcelona as well and I agree that anything could happen, but let's not forget that Barcelona is a freshly built team, a lot of their players came during the summer transfer window, some of them even later, which means that they haven't had the time to build chemistry yet which shows itself time to time, especially during the Bayern game for example.

So, if there is any chance for Inter to win, it is now because on the second leg there could be a better Barcelona who played together for a while now and built the bond inside the team, Inter needs to get points from this or they are going to end up losing a lot worse on the second game for sure.
Indeed this can be said to be true because with the current time especially with new players obviously there has to be a chemistry to build but looking at them at the moment although it is still not completely solid but I think it is very good for now.
Inter's chances are clearly difficult now because at the moment Inzaghi is still hot from his seat considering Inter's current performance is still far from good

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September 22, 2022, 09:19:22 AM
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Chelsea's chances of qualifying from the group phase are arguably very heavy.  Chelsea's hope to pursue full points in the next two matches is not an easy matter, the opponent they face is AC Milan which will certainly make it difficult for the Blues.  With four games remaining, Chelsea's road to qualifying for the group is steep, only a win can help them.  Chelsea fans are certainly very worried about the performance of their favorite team this season.
The four matches that Chelsea will face are with a team that is quite strong in Group E of the Champions League at the moment (namely the leaders of the first and second standings) and I think both must be watched out for by Chelsea because considering AC Milan is still quite good this season, especially in the Champions League group.
Likewise with Dinamo Zagreb who have won once in the Champions League group, but Chelsea certainly shouldn't take it lightly because Chelsea are in need of a win to qualify for the next phase.

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September 22, 2022, 09:49:11 AM
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Chelsea's chances of qualifying from the group phase are arguably very heavy.  Chelsea's hope to pursue full points in the next two matches is not an easy matter, the opponent they face is AC Milan which will certainly make it difficult for the Blues.  With four games remaining, Chelsea's road to qualifying for the group is steep, only a win can help them.  Chelsea fans are certainly very worried about the performance of their favorite team this season.

That's for sure, chelsea will have a tough match either in the domestic league or in the champions league.
Chelsea's chance to qualify for the next phase is not easy and very difficult, considering that in the last match Chelsea were only able to play with a draw. they only have one point, as a result they have to be willing to be in the bottom position in group E. next, Chelsea will play the match against Milan.
This match is very tough for Chelsea, Potter must prepare his squad to win this match. if chelsea can get three points, then in the next match chelsea has the opportunity to again qualify for the next round phase. however, the question is can Potter bring the Blues out of the group stage.

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September 22, 2022, 09:51:21 AM
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Chelsea's chances of qualifying from the group phase are arguably very heavy.  Chelsea's hope to pursue full points in the next two matches is not an easy matter, the opponent they face is AC Milan which will certainly make it difficult for the Blues.  With four games remaining, Chelsea's road to qualifying for the group is steep, only a win can help them.  Chelsea fans are certainly very worried about the performance of their favorite team this season.

That's for sure, chelsea will have a tough match either in the domestic league or in the champions league.
Chelsea's chance to qualify for the next phase is not easy and very difficult, considering that in the last match Chelsea were only able to play with a draw. they only have one point, as a result they have to be willing to be in the bottom position in group E. next, Chelsea will play the match against Milan.
This match is very tough for Chelsea, Potter must prepare his squad to win this match. if chelsea can get three points, then in the next match chelsea has the opportunity to again qualify for the next round phase. however, the question is can Potter bring the Blues out of the group stage.
Now they are in transition due to a change in management and coach but indeed now there are still 4 games left to do in the Champions League so the opportunity is still quite open I think especially if you look at the current condition of their opponents, it is clear that they still have hope as long as Potter can take Chelsea in the right direction better.

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September 22, 2022, 10:34:58 AM
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Chelsea's chances of qualifying from the group phase are arguably very heavy.  Chelsea's hope to pursue full points in the next two matches is not an easy matter, the opponent they face is AC Milan which will certainly make it difficult for the Blues.  With four games remaining, Chelsea's road to qualifying for the group is steep, only a win can help them.  Chelsea fans are certainly very worried about the performance of their favorite team this season.

That's for sure, chelsea will have a tough match either in the domestic league or in the champions league.
Chelsea's chance to qualify for the next phase is not easy and very difficult, considering that in the last match Chelsea were only able to play with a draw. they only have one point, as a result they have to be willing to be in the bottom position in group E. next, Chelsea will play the match against Milan.
This match is very tough for Chelsea, Potter must prepare his squad to win this match. if chelsea can get three points, then in the next match chelsea has the opportunity to again qualify for the next round phase. however, the question is can Potter bring the Blues out of the group stage.
Now they are in transition due to a change in management and coach but indeed now there are still 4 games left to do in the Champions League so the opportunity is still quite open I think especially if you look at the current condition of their opponents, it is clear that they still have hope as long as Potter can take Chelsea in the right direction better.
The only problem is when? We may wait for another several matches to happen with chelsea but it that will not have good result and then there wll be another big question to come like whether chelsea's management decision to sacked tuchel was true or not.
The first match already happened and so far chelsea can't even win against a small team from another league which is a shame for chelsea with so many players with big name and skill.

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September 22, 2022, 11:44:58 AM
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The only problem is when? We may wait for another several matches to happen with chelsea but it that will not have good result and then there wll be another big question to come like whether chelsea's management decision to sacked tuchel was true or not.
The first match already happened and so far chelsea can't even win against a small team from another league which is a shame for chelsea with so many players with big name and skill.
Once the Chelsea management already changed the coach in the middle of the tournament, then it was a coup and Techel won the Champions League with Chelsea. If they are now hoping for the same result, then I think that this will not happen. Finding a coach of equal level with Tuchel is a very difficult task, especially since Potter has no experience in the Champions League, which can also be a negative moment for the team.

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The only problem is when? We may wait for another several matches to happen with chelsea but it that will not have good result and then there wll be another big question to come like whether chelsea's management decision to sacked tuchel was true or not.
The first match already happened and so far chelsea can't even win against a small team from another league which is a shame for chelsea with so many players with big name and skill.
Once the Chelsea management already changed the coach in the middle of the tournament, then it was a coup and Techel won the Champions League with Chelsea. If they are now hoping for the same result, then I think that this will not happen. Finding a coach of equal level with Tuchel is a very difficult task, especially since Potter has no experience in the Champions League, which can also be a negative moment for the team.

Chelsea ERA is kinda gone in my opinion. Sure ,they still have great players in the squad but they don't perform well and I don't see any great signs for them and I'm sure in winter and next summer , a lot of them will be leaving the team. Regarding coaches , you are 100% right , because right now , there are no great coaches available or at least top managers to be available and Tuchel might be join Juventus soon or Bayern...there are hard rumors from both of the clubs.

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Now they are in transition due to a change in management and coach but indeed now there are still 4 games left to do in the Champions League so the opportunity is still quite open I think especially if you look at the current condition of their opponents, it is clear that they still have hope as long as Potter can take Chelsea in the right direction better.
The opportunity is still there and also still very open for Chelsea. But Chelsea also needs to look at their own strengths at this time in order to win with the opponents they will face later, because Chelsea cannot think of AC Milan as an ordinary opponent, even AC Milan can still surprise in a match in the Champions League. this time despite having only managed to win once in two matches in Group E of the Champions League this season.

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