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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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September 23, 2022, 09:22:47 PM
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When I'm sailing in the sea of news I read an article, has this been discussed before?
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Real Madrid making financial arrangements for champions league expulsion
Real Madrid seem to have transitioned in the eyes of many from an extravagant spending outfit, prepared to pay over the odds for the biggest stars in football to a well-run big club, that invests sensibly. Once again, Los Blancos appear to be taking financial precautions
That said, the risk they are preparing for is of their own making. According to a report from vozpopuli, carried by Mundo Deportivo, Real Madrid are putting aside money to survive various seasons without the income from the Champions League. It is a measure taken in case they are expelled from Europe’s premier competition due to their continued presence in the Superleague.
Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid are still in the breakaway competition, but so far seem to have escaped punishment. Currently there is a tribunal case at the European Court of Justice on the matter which will dictate how much power UEFA have to punish them, the result of which is expected some time this winter.
Source
The president of Real Madrid seems to have guessed the final verdict and the club will try to prepare themselves for the worst, if indeed they have to leave at this big event for the next few seasons. I would not be able to imagine if Real Madrid had to be leave because the performance of this team was good, and deserves to be in this big event. What do you think ?

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September 23, 2022, 09:28:53 PM
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I wonder what do you doubt? Do you think that Dynamo or Salzburg will take Chelsea's ticket to the playoffs?  Grin Or do you think they don't have a strong enough lineup to be successful in the playoffs? I think that both proposals are unfounded, and success in the Champions League playoffs is largely a random factor and a lot will depend even on the pairs draw.
By "play-offs" you mean the remaining round ties, right? Because I know play-offs differently.

Success in the "play-offs" doesn't mean Chelsea automatically win the UCL… Does it? I am talking about the bigger picture. In the Premier League, Chelsea isn't going to finish top 4 under Graham potter. You can save this post for future reference  Grin

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September 23, 2022, 10:40:25 PM
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When I'm sailing in the sea of news I read an article, has this been discussed before?
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Real Madrid making financial arrangements for champions league expulsion
Real Madrid seem to have transitioned in the eyes of many from an extravagant spending outfit, prepared to pay over the odds for the biggest stars in football to a well-run big club, that invests sensibly. Once again, Los Blancos appear to be taking financial precautions
That said, the risk they are preparing for is of their own making. According to a report from vozpopuli, carried by Mundo Deportivo, Real Madrid are putting aside money to survive various seasons without the income from the Champions League. It is a measure taken in case they are expelled from Europe’s premier competition due to their continued presence in the Superleague.
Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid are still in the breakaway competition, but so far seem to have escaped punishment. Currently there is a tribunal case at the European Court of Justice on the matter which will dictate how much power UEFA have to punish them, the result of which is expected some time this winter.
Source
The president of Real Madrid seems to have guessed the final verdict and the club will try to prepare themselves for the worst, if indeed they have to leave at this big event for the next few seasons. I would not be able to imagine if Real Madrid had to be leave because the performance of this team was good, and deserves to be in this big event. What do you think ?
This is obviously very unfortunate because indeed if they have to leave, but it is undeniable that this is the worst possibility of their initiation some time ago about the super league.
The decision of the Court of Justice of the European Union is estimated to be out at the end of 2022 or 2023. There is nothing to do but wait for this result to come out now.

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September 23, 2022, 10:52:32 PM
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It is too difficult to talk about Chelsea's title chance in the Champions League in the near future now. Because they have bigger concerns to deal with first. It is very hard to predict what will happen after Tuchel's departure and Potter's arrival. They will need a lot of time to see the results of new changes in the team. People have many question marks in their minds because of Potter's being very inexperienced about big teams and big tournaments like this one. I won't be surprised if they even continue in the Europa League this season. It won't be easy for them to collect enough points against Milan to increase their chance for next round.

Maybe we are still at the beginning of the season now and I'm prejudiced about their future. But as long as they don't solve their scoring issues this season won't be bright for them neither in the Champions League nor in the English Premier League.

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September 23, 2022, 10:58:30 PM
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It is quite sad that a good coach like Tuchel should be sacked,he was one of the best coaches in England,and he also has a good record at Chelsea.I so much believe that this new coach brought in to take Chelsea to another heights will also be sacked in less than no time because as it stands, Chelsea are not getting better or neither are they improving in their performance.
I believe by now,if Tuchel Wass still at Chelsea,they might have gotten a turn around now,because all the players might have blended together.
Everything becomes possible when the higher-ups there are not satisfied, no matter how good he is, he still has to leave because in this case the decision is in the hands of the higher-ups.
Todd was not too satisfied with Tuchel's performance even though it was too rushed and it's a shame but we can't do much because he is already gone.
Todd may have other considerations with this because during his tenure as the new leader there were some policies that were considered rushed but in the end he was still able to fix it.

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September 23, 2022, 11:07:03 PM
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It is too difficult to talk about Chelsea's title chance in the Champions League in the near future now. Because they have bigger concerns to deal with first. It is very hard to predict what will happen after Tuchel's departure and Potter's arrival. They will need a lot of time to see the results of new changes in the team. People have many question marks in their minds because of Potter's being very inexperienced about big teams and big tournaments like this one. I won't be surprised if they even continue in the Europa League this season. It won't be easy for them to collect enough points against Milan to increase their chance for next round.

Maybe we are still at the beginning of the season now and I'm prejudiced about their future. But as long as they don't solve their scoring issues this season won't be bright for them neither in the Champions League nor in the English Premier League.

Chelsea are currently at the bottom of Group E, and only has 1 point from 2 matches indeed very small chance to qualify from the group stage.
Especially as you said Chelsea chose Graham Potter as the new coach, who has no experience dealing with big teams and also inexperienced
in the Champions League. This fact makes some people become pessimistic about Chelsea. AC Milan is Chelsea's strongest competitor in Group E,
so like Chelsea it will be difficult to face AC Milan. Even Chelsea against Dinamo Zagreb and Salzburg were unable to win, so Chelsea needed a miracle
to qualify from the group stage. Another problem from Chelsea, they are also not productive in scoring goals, Aubameyang, who is expected to be
a goal machine, has not shown satisfactory performance. Too many problems have happened to Chelsea, this season will indeed be quite a difficult season
for Chelsea.

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It is quite sad that a good coach like Tuchel should be sacked,he was one of the best coaches in England,and he also has a good record at Chelsea.I so much believe that this new coach brought in to take Chelsea to another heights will also be sacked in less than no time because as it stands, Chelsea are not getting better or neither are they improving in their performance.
I believe by now,if Tuchel Wass still at Chelsea,they might have gotten a turn around now,because all the players might have blended together.
Given the circumstances in which Chelsea finished the previous season, what difficulties they faced about not just the transfer campaign, but in general with problems with the normal functioning of the club, the difficulties that Chelsea faced at the beginning of the new season were quite expected. By the way, it is significant that Chelsea player Kai Havertz also expressed surprise at the dismissal of the specialist, noting that the club has a lot of new player signings. Therefore, I am also very perplexed that the new management of the club did not give Tuchel time to correct the situation, instead of expressing gratitude that the coach did not leave the team in a difficult moment. On the other hand, with such a track record and talent, Tuchel should not have serious problems finding a new place to apply his efforts, so it will be interesting to see where the German specialist will continue to work. In any case, after the World Cup and the resumption of tournaments, there will be a lot of vacancies and Tuchel will have a choice.
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September 24, 2022, 02:50:00 AM
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It is quite sad that a good coach like Tuchel should be sacked,he was one of the best coaches in England,and he also has a good record at Chelsea.I so much believe that this new coach brought in to take Chelsea to another heights will also be sacked in less than no time because as it stands, Chelsea are not getting better or neither are they improving in their performance.
I believe by now,if Tuchel Wass still at Chelsea,they might have gotten a turn around now,because all the players might have blended together.
Given the circumstances in which Chelsea finished the previous season, what difficulties they faced about not just the transfer campaign, but in general with problems with the normal functioning of the club, the difficulties that Chelsea faced at the beginning of the new season were quite expected. By the way, it is significant that Chelsea player Kai Havertz also expressed surprise at the dismissal of the specialist, noting that the club has a lot of new player signings. Therefore, I am also very perplexed that the new management of the club did not give Tuchel time to correct the situation, instead of expressing gratitude that the coach did not leave the team in a difficult moment. On the other hand, with such a track record and talent, Tuchel should not have serious problems finding a new place to apply his efforts, so it will be interesting to see where the German specialist will continue to work. In any case, after the World Cup and the resumption of tournaments, there will be a lot of vacancies and Tuchel will have a choice.
Tuchel's case makes me feel Arsenal board is so special,because I remember times like this at Arsenal,where Arsenal lost their first three matches and left them in that last position on the league table,but despite these,Arsenal board never lost hope on Arteta,inspite of those losing streak,they gave him contract, something that no team will be able to do as long as football is concerned.But how can you rate Arsenal now,they are one of the best teams in EPL at the moment,and are currently leading the table by a point.Therefore,in football,one needs to think before making any decision especially when it comes to sacking of coach.
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September 24, 2022, 03:53:01 AM
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It is quite sad that a good coach like Tuchel should be sacked,he was one of the best coaches in England,and he also has a good record at Chelsea.I so much believe that this new coach brought in to take Chelsea to another heights will also be sacked in less than no time because as it stands, Chelsea are not getting better or neither are they improving in their performance.
I believe by now,if Tuchel Wass still at Chelsea,they might have gotten a turn around now,because all the players might have blended together.
Given the circumstances in which Chelsea finished the previous season, what difficulties they faced about not just the transfer campaign, but in general with problems with the normal functioning of the club, the difficulties that Chelsea faced at the beginning of the new season were quite expected. By the way, it is significant that Chelsea player Kai Havertz also expressed surprise at the dismissal of the specialist, noting that the club has a lot of new player signings. Therefore, I am also very perplexed that the new management of the club did not give Tuchel time to correct the situation, instead of expressing gratitude that the coach did not leave the team in a difficult moment. On the other hand, with such a track record and talent, Tuchel should not have serious problems finding a new place to apply his efforts, so it will be interesting to see where the German specialist will continue to work. In any case, after the World Cup and the resumption of tournaments, there will be a lot of vacancies and Tuchel will have a choice.
Tuchel's case makes me feel Arsenal board is so special,because I remember times like this at Arsenal,where Arsenal lost their first three matches and left them in that last position on the league table,but despite these,Arsenal board never lost hope on Arteta,inspite of those losing streak,they gave him contract, something that no team will be able to do as long as football is concerned.But how can you rate Arsenal now,they are one of the best teams in EPL at the moment,and are currently leading the table by a point.Therefore,in football,one needs to think before making any decision especially when it comes to sacking of coach.
Tuchel is clearly very talented and clearly someone who has had a lot of success with Chelsea, despite Tuchel's achievements and brilliance as a coach, there will definitely be considerations to improve him. And as far as I'm concerned, the news of Tuchel's sacking isn't just because he's given Chelsea bad results of late.
and Todd Boehly explained the sacking was not solely because Chelsea were bad but there were other things underlying the decision that had to be taken immediately, and Todd Boehly saw Tuchel not having the same vision as the new boss Chalsea.
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September 24, 2022, 04:18:09 AM
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I don't think is a disaster season for Chelsea because the season just started,and they still lot of talented players here, with a new coach who has prove in the premier League that he can play attractive and effective football seasons after season so we should still be optimistic about the season, they have players like thiago Silva, koulibaily, raheem sterling, Aubameyang, Recce James and jorginho who are world class players and can play in any team In the world so they can still turn this season to a positive one.
You really think Graham Potter can turn things around, Chelsea? Come on, let's be honest, does he even have any Champion's league experience?

Things are going to get worse for Chelsea. Thomas Tuchel, at least achieved something with the club in the UCL. I think they should have given him time. The world-class players you just mentioned were part of the team that failed to perform well under Thomas Tuchel.

I wonder what do you doubt? Do you think that Dynamo or Salzburg will take Chelsea's ticket to the playoffs?  Grin Or do you think they don't have a strong enough lineup to be successful in the playoffs? I think that both proposals are unfounded, and success in the Champions League playoffs is largely a random factor and a lot will depend even on the pairs draw.
That square that gave Dynamo and Salzburg the first success against Chelsea is still available for the return leg it is left for Chelsea to buckle up or get defeated for the second time. This is champions league and the better team always win there is no two ways about it. Chelsea can win them if they device another method or strategies, because if they continue to use same method of game, i think that they might lose the match.
Champion league was different with the EPL. If you can win any match easily and that proves that if your team is realiable enough to compete with another team to get the trophies but the only problem is since chelsea being acquired by todd and the performance is going down.
It's pretty much the same like another mediocre team who didn't even know how to make goal and win the game. So many times chelsea has been getting chances to train its new team and its performance but it was never increase and always get the same result.

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September 24, 2022, 05:15:50 AM
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When I'm sailing in the sea of news I read an article, has this been discussed before?
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Real Madrid making financial arrangements for champions league expulsion
Real Madrid seem to have transitioned in the eyes of many from an extravagant spending outfit, prepared to pay over the odds for the biggest stars in football to a well-run big club, that invests sensibly. Once again, Los Blancos appear to be taking financial precautions
That said, the risk they are preparing for is of their own making. According to a report from vozpopuli, carried by Mundo Deportivo, Real Madrid are putting aside money to survive various seasons without the income from the Champions League. It is a measure taken in case they are expelled from Europe’s premier competition due to their continued presence in the Superleague.
Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid are still in the breakaway competition, but so far seem to have escaped punishment. Currently there is a tribunal case at the European Court of Justice on the matter which will dictate how much power UEFA have to punish them, the result of which is expected some time this winter.
Source
The president of Real Madrid seems to have guessed the final verdict and the club will try to prepare themselves for the worst, if indeed they have to leave at this big event for the next few seasons. I would not be able to imagine if Real Madrid had to be leave because the performance of this team was good, and deserves to be in this big event. What do you think ?

I think there will be a settlement about to happen maybe before or after the final verdict. I still think that the Champions League will not be the same without Real Madrid. Real Madrid has the biggest fan base around the world and any leagues and tournaments participated by this team benefits from it. Worst outcome would be one year or two years suspension. It will never be a permanent expulsion. Not to a club as big and as powerful as Real Madrid.

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September 24, 2022, 05:20:21 AM
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It is too difficult to talk about Chelsea's title chance in the Champions League in the near future now. Because they have bigger concerns to deal with first. It is very hard to predict what will happen after Tuchel's departure and Potter's arrival. They will need a lot of time to see the results of new changes in the team. People have many question marks in their minds because of Potter's being very inexperienced about big teams and big tournaments like this one. I won't be surprised if they even continue in the Europa League this season. It won't be easy for them to collect enough points against Milan to increase their chance for next round.

Maybe we are still at the beginning of the season now and I'm prejudiced about their future. But as long as they don't solve their scoring issues this season won't be bright for them neither in the Champions League nor in the English Premier League.
Right now, it is definitely difficult to talk about Chelsea future in Champions League but if we talk about current form them they are going out of this group stage and if we can expect some positive change specially after change of coach which was completely wrong decision from Chelsea new management then coming two matches against AC Milan are going to give better review about their chances into Champions League because if they are able to steal something from them then we can expect better results otherwise they are having no fair chance for going into knockout stage with current form.

Potter is new and need time for having positive results with he has no experience in Champions League which is another factor which is going against Chelsea in coming matches even they have few quality players, and they are capable of giving their best but here they also need better strategy and system from coach for having better results which are going to take time and right now it's running out very quickly for them.
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September 24, 2022, 05:20:39 AM
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I don't think is a disaster season for Chelsea because the season just started,and they still lot of talented players here, with a new coach who has prove in the premier League that he can play attractive and effective football seasons after season so we should still be optimistic about the season, they have players like thiago Silva, koulibaily, raheem sterling, Aubameyang, Recce James and jorginho who are world class players and can play in any team In the world so they can still turn this season to a positive one.
You really think Graham Potter can turn things around, Chelsea? Come on, let's be honest, does he even have any Champion's league experience?

Things are going to get worse for Chelsea. Thomas Tuchel, at least achieved something with the club in the UCL. I think they should have given him time. The world-class players you just mentioned were part of the team that failed to perform well under Thomas Tuchel.

I wonder what do you doubt? Do you think that Dynamo or Salzburg will take Chelsea's ticket to the playoffs?  Grin Or do you think they don't have a strong enough lineup to be successful in the playoffs? I think that both proposals are unfounded, and success in the Champions League playoffs is largely a random factor and a lot will depend even on the pairs draw.
Although the odds seem low, it's a sport and any score can happen.  Salzburg and Dynamo can beat Chelsea in the group they play, this is a possibility.  But if I'm being realistic, it's highly unlikely.  Chelsea still have a chance to finish second in the group.  The important thing is to earn at least 4 points from Milan matches.  If they win at least 4 points in Milan matches, they have a chance to place second in the group.  They can win the remaining two matches and leave the group with 10 points.

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It is too difficult to talk about Chelsea's title chance in the Champions League in the near future now. Because they have bigger concerns to deal with first. It is very hard to predict what will happen after Tuchel's departure and Potter's arrival. They will need a lot of time to see the results of new changes in the team. People have many question marks in their minds because of Potter's being very inexperienced about big teams and big tournaments like this one. I won't be surprised if they even continue in the Europa League this season. It won't be easy for them to collect enough points against Milan to increase their chance for next round.

Maybe we are still at the beginning of the season now and I'm prejudiced about their future. But as long as they don't solve their scoring issues this season won't be bright for them neither in the Champions League nor in the English Premier League.

I think, Chelsea new coach will like to carry out his personal research to know were the challenges is coming from in this season not to allow Chelsea players to demonstrate well. Since Chelsea still have time to correct their errors to improve their points in a way people will believe that they can still make it before the end of the tournament. If Manchester united new coach can get it right few months ago in this season, showed that this Chelsea new coach will do everything within his power to make it happen in their remaining matches for the team to feel the positive change that will lead them to embrace the title.

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It is too difficult to talk about Chelsea's title chance in the Champions League in the near future now. Because they have bigger concerns to deal with first. It is very hard to predict what will happen after Tuchel's departure and Potter's arrival. They will need a lot of time to see the results of new changes in the team. People have many question marks in their minds because of Potter's being very inexperienced about big teams and big tournaments like this one. I won't be surprised if they even continue in the Europa League this season. It won't be easy for them to collect enough points against Milan to increase their chance for next round.
Maybe we are still at the beginning of the season now and I'm prejudiced about their future. But as long as they don't solve their scoring issues this season won't be bright for them neither in the Champions League nor in the English Premier League.
I think, Chelsea new coach will like to carry out his personal research to know were the challenges is coming from in this season not to allow Chelsea players to demonstrate well. Since Chelsea still have time to correct their errors to improve their points in a way people will believe that they can still make it before the end of the tournament. If Manchester united new coach can get it right few months ago in this season, showed that this Chelsea new coach will do everything within his power to make it happen in their remaining matches for the team to feel the positive change that will lead them to embrace the title.

Chelsea management appointed a new coach. Now the coach will adapt himself to the players. Find out the weaknesses of the team. And then take steps to strengthen the team's weak points. Maybe he needs a new player. It is time-consuming. So I don't expect a good performance from Chelsea this season. However, if Chelsea can qualify for the Champions League, it will be a huge achievement for them.
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Whoever will manage Chelsea, as it is now, will have a big challenge to bring about a change for the better. nothing is easy, even a coach who has had a long experience in his career.

I think Potter knows very well that the task is very difficult, it is not easy to lead Chelsea to change with the condition of the players who are experiencing a negative trend.  he has to adapt to the existing players, without being able to recruit new players.  like it or not, Potter and his team had to trust each other and had to adapt quickly.
and if Potter is able to bring chelsea through to the next round of the champions league, I think that is an achievement for Potter.

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September 24, 2022, 09:16:12 AM
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Dinamo Zagreb has an aggressive attack and it's obvious the will launch for a win against RB Salzburg added to their home advantage. Chelsea might have a very tough time playing against Milan and Potter has so much to put in to ensure the secure this point because it determines their next stage in the competition although bookies sees Chelsea as favourite
Salzburg is tough team it proven from their recent matches on this competition Milan and Chelsea failed to get full points from them and this team is very effective to rely on counter attack and their defense also quite solid because at their domestic leagues they are the team with the most strongest defense so Dynamo Zagreb will faced difficult match especially Salzburg very strong at their home so Zagreb might be can slipped but indeed this match will determined Zagreb position on group standings that if they can able to win their chance is wide open went to round 16
Salzburg is surely going to be a surprise package in this season as they already steal one point from Chelsea in away match which could be vital for them and if they are able to have some more consistency in coming matches this is going to be challenging for Chelsea as they are going to fight for place into next round and having only one point and Salzburg is going to host Zagreb in coming match and if they have three points then surely it's going to more difficult time for others to bring them down as AC Milan is also in good shape for early matches.

In first two matches they are having tight defense which are not allowing big teams to have better results against them with Zagreb already thrashed by AC Milan so look like we can have them in next round on the cost of Chelsea and then both Zagreb and Chelsea are going to fight for place into Europa Cup.

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Whoever will manage Chelsea, as it is now, will have a big challenge to bring about a change for the better. nothing is easy, even a coach who has had a long experience in his career.

I think Potter knows very well that the task is very difficult, it is not easy to lead Chelsea to change with the condition of the players who are experiencing a negative trend.  he has to adapt to the existing players, without being able to recruit new players.  like it or not, Potter and his team had to trust each other and had to adapt quickly.
and if Potter is able to bring chelsea through to the next round of the champions league, I think that is an achievement for Potter.

That is the true and ultimate test for Graham Potter. I am not expecting Chelsea to win the English Premier league, I am also not expecting them to win the Champions league, even the FA Cup and Curaba Cup they got to the finals last season, I am not also expecting them to get to the finals or win it. What I expect from Chelsea and their new manager is to be able to be in English Premier League top 4 this season. Staying in the top 4 is already a big achievement in this difficult season.

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September 24, 2022, 09:55:17 AM
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Chelsea management appointed a new coach. Now the coach will adapt himself to the players. Find out the weaknesses of the team. And then take steps to strengthen the team's weak points. Maybe he needs a new player. It is time-consuming. So I don't expect a good performance from Chelsea this season. However, if Chelsea can qualify for the Champions League, it will be a huge achievement for them.
Chelsea need to fight very hard to qualify for the next phase in the Champions League because Chelsea are in need of full points in every game. Which means Chelsea need to win in four more games in this season's Champions League group stage. Because if it is not obtained by Chelsea, then the possibility of qualifying for the next phase is very slim, especially now that Chelsea is at the bottom of the Champions League group standings.

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September 24, 2022, 11:43:54 AM
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Chelsea management appointed a new coach. Now the coach will adapt himself to the players. Find out the weaknesses of the team. And then take steps to strengthen the team's weak points. Maybe he needs a new player. It is time-consuming. So I don't expect a good performance from Chelsea this season. However, if Chelsea can qualify for the Champions League, it will be a huge achievement for them.

It won't be easy for Chelsea to meet up to achieve a better position in the Champions league because of their coach, if the coach is good enough it is very possible for him to achieve a lot within a short time from his player. Barcelona had the same challenge last season and they brought Xavi as coach, he was still able to strengthen Barcelona last season.  It is possible for Chelsea new coach to build up Chelsea back if he is good .

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