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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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November 07, 2022, 09:04:52 PM
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You tell some fantastic stories. Real Madrid turned out to be stronger than the top 3 of the Premier League last season (City, Liverpool, Chelsea) in the face-to-face confrontation, and are you talking about some kind of luck? It's not even serious. You must admit that you are biased,

Seems you're forgetting that last two seasons which Chelsea was crowned the champions of Europe, they defeated teams like Real Madrid, Atlético de Madrid on their way to the finals which are also power house of La Liga side without having to rely on comebacks. The games you're talking about, Real Madrid weren't even the better side. Their game against Chelsea, didn't Chelsea score them 3:0 with some minutes to go before they managed to get 2 goals back then progress due to their away goals at earlier outing. In those games Real Madrid never were the favorites, Manchester city destroyed them in 90mins and a quick comeback sent Real Madrid to the finals.

I'm never doubting the brilliance of Real Madrid but they are never the favorite to win games. They capitalized on mistakes that their opponents make and plays their whole game as undergoes and never the dominate side. That's the reason those bookmakers given them those kind of rating irrespective of their wins.

Arguments about dominance, comebacks, the beauty of football, etc. it's just storytelling. I think you know how the winner is determined in football? We need to score more goals than the opponent and concede fewer. Real Madrid did it against the top 3 teams in the Premier League = it was stronger than them. If it was figure skating or synchronized swimming, maybe someone would have scored more points than Real (and won), but it was football, so Real became the champion.

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November 07, 2022, 09:37:59 PM
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When I saw the results of Round 16's many stunning decisions, I grinned. It will be difficult for the qualifiers. Liverpool might not be in good shape this season, but they shouldn't be underrated. Napoli vs. Frankfurt with Napoli current performance should beat Frankfurt watching their performance in serial A and the other two matches that will be an entertaining are Dortmund vs. Chelsea and PSG playing Bayern. Let's see what each of these teams can do. Man City is playing against Leipzig is a starting bonus for Man City.
With Liverpool current performance, I don't think they will be able to qualify, Liverpool can't win real Madrid, the match is very easy to predict. Dortmund VS Chelsea will be a interesting match, dortmund shouldn't be a difficult team to win for Chelsea, but with Chelsea current performance it's a match that will be kind of difficult to predict but I believe Chelsea might struggle to win. Manchester city VS Leipzig, I think it will be a easy win for Manchester city, Leipzig shouldn't be a team that will give Manchester city hard time.

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November 07, 2022, 10:47:53 PM
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For now, Real Madrid are obviously the better side considering their Liverpool draw. Ancelotti has made the team even stronger this season. I'm aware of their point losses in the La Liga recently but they are still in a solid shape. They have handled their league and the Champions League really well so far. Liverpool haven't been able to keep it balanced. They don't have a good head-to-head record against Real Madrid either. I think Real Madrid will eliminate them one more time.

But there is a long time ahead of course. It is long enough to make big changes and we will see how Klopp will take advantage of this period. After the World Cup they will need to have a good form to be mentally ready against Real Madrid.

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November 07, 2022, 11:02:37 PM
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For now, Real Madrid are obviously the better side considering their Liverpool draw. Ancelotti has made the team even stronger this season. I'm aware of their point losses in the La Liga recently but they are still in a solid shape. They have handled their league and the Champions League really well so far. Liverpool haven't been able to keep it balanced. They don't have a good head-to-head record against Real Madrid either. I think Real Madrid will eliminate them one more time.

But there is a long time ahead of course. It is long enough to make big changes and we will see how Klopp will take advantage of this period. After the World Cup they will need to have a good form to be mentally ready against Real Madrid.
I wouldn't call Real Madrid the better side since the game will take place in February and by that time many things could change and Liverpool might become better. After all it is a big team that will annoy certainly Real Madrid!
Now look to PSG and Bayern, don't know which team should I call unlucky to meet the other at this stage!
Milan - Spurs and Chelsea - Dortmund are quite challenging games and it will be hard to predict the winner there. The remaining games look like an Europa League ones when you see the previous one. City is considered lucky to face Leipzig, I suppose Roll Eyes

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November 07, 2022, 11:12:17 PM
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When I saw the results of Round 16's many stunning decisions, I grinned. It will be difficult for the qualifiers. Liverpool might not be in good shape this season, but they shouldn't be underrated. Napoli vs. Frankfurt with Napoli current performance should beat Frankfurt watching their performance in serial A and the other two matches that will be an entertaining are Dortmund vs. Chelsea and PSG playing Bayern. Let's see what each of these teams can do. Man City is playing against Leipzig is a starting bonus for Man City.
With Liverpool current performance, I don't think they will be able to qualify, Liverpool can't win real Madrid, the match is very easy to predict. Dortmund VS Chelsea will be a interesting match, dortmund shouldn't be a difficult team to win for Chelsea, but with Chelsea current performance it's a match that will be kind of difficult to predict but I believe Chelsea might struggle to win. Manchester city VS Leipzig, I think it will be a easy win for Manchester city, Leipzig shouldn't be a team that will give Manchester city hard time.
Even if Liverpool are not doing well , it can still be a surprise that they end up I'm winning real madrid, just as Real Madrid lose against Rayo. Chelsea  will be I'm performance than Dortmund.  Dortmund is not much consistent 

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November 07, 2022, 11:33:11 PM
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When I saw the results of Round 16's many stunning decisions, I grinned. It will be difficult for the qualifiers. Liverpool might not be in good shape this season, but they shouldn't be underrated. Napoli vs. Frankfurt with Napoli current performance should beat Frankfurt watching their performance in serial A and the other two matches that will be an entertaining are Dortmund vs. Chelsea and PSG playing Bayern. Let's see what each of these teams can do. Man City is playing against Leipzig is a starting bonus for Man City.
With Liverpool current performance, I don't think they will be able to qualify, Liverpool can't win real Madrid, the match is very easy to predict. Dortmund VS Chelsea will be a interesting match, dortmund shouldn't be a difficult team to win for Chelsea, but with Chelsea current performance it's a match that will be kind of difficult to predict but I believe Chelsea might struggle to win. Manchester city VS Leipzig, I think it will be a easy win for Manchester city, Leipzig shouldn't be a team that will give Manchester city hard time.
Even if Liverpool are not doing well , it can still be a surprise that they end up I'm winning real madrid, just as Real Madrid lose against Rayo. Chelsea  will be I'm performance than Dortmund.  Dortmund is not much consistent 

Liverpool match will be the most interesting match in this round and i believe it's very hard to expect the winner in this match, Liverpool is not good this year but they forwarders can easily scored against any team in the world and real Madrid defence will definitely have very hard times

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November 07, 2022, 11:40:24 PM
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For now, Real Madrid are obviously the better side considering their Liverpool draw. Ancelotti has made the team even stronger this season. I'm aware of their point losses in the La Liga recently but they are still in a solid shape. They have handled their league and the Champions League really well so far. Liverpool haven't been able to keep it balanced. They don't have a good head-to-head record against Real Madrid either. I think Real Madrid will eliminate them one more time.
But there is a long time ahead of course. It is long enough to make big changes and we will see how Klopp will take advantage of this period. After the World Cup they will need to have a good form to be mentally ready against Real Madrid.
Well, just if we take a specific period of time here and now, then I would not say that Real Madrid looks better, because Real Madrid lost to Rayo Vallecano and seems to be slowly sinking into crisis, and Liverpool, on the contrary, won a principled match against Tottenham, and before that Napoli won, which is in excellent condition and vice versa he is starting to get out of the not very good state in which the team was at the beginning of the season. On the other hand, a lot can change in the three months that remain until the opponents' matches, so now it is difficult to reliably predict the final outcome of the confrontation between the two big European clubs.
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November 07, 2022, 11:40:44 PM
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Even if Liverpool are not doing well , it can still be a surprise that they end up I'm winning real madrid, just as Real Madrid lose against Rayo. Chelsea  will be I'm performance than Dortmund.  Dortmund is not much consistent 
Don't misinterpret this if you don't know a team like Real Madrid, because if you think Real Madrid are weak just because they lost to Rayo today in La Liga, it's very non-specific because Real Madrid are always better in the Champions League which even the team Real Madrid always give everything in the Champions League even though they have to lose in La Liga. Because Real Madrid still thinks that the Champions League trophy is more valuable than the La Liga trophy.

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November 07, 2022, 11:48:46 PM
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When I saw the results of Round 16's many stunning decisions, I grinned. It will be difficult for the qualifiers. Liverpool might not be in good shape this season, but they shouldn't be underrated. Napoli vs. Frankfurt with Napoli current performance should beat Frankfurt watching their performance in serial A and the other two matches that will be an entertaining are Dortmund vs. Chelsea and PSG playing Bayern. Let's see what each of these teams can do. Man City is playing against Leipzig is a starting bonus for Man City.
An interesting duel will be presented again in the last 16 of the Champions League, which will be held on February 21, the match that caught the attention of all spectators was the meeting between the two finalists last year between Liverpool vs real Madrid, although Liverpool stumbled in the English Premier League but Liverpool played fiercely. in the Champions League, I think Liverpool has an advantage in the match because many Liverpool star players did not take part in the Qatar world cup, so they have enough rest time to prepare themselves to face Real Madrid in the last 16, while the other match is between PSG vs Bayern Munich is also the center of attention of many people, because the two of them also met in the Champions League final, Messi met Bayern Munich again, can Messi avenge Barcelona.??

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November 08, 2022, 12:30:59 AM
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Bayern's chances look fair. But what the fuck is this about Real Madrid again? Last season, Real Madrid was an underdog in every pair, but now, even against the crisis Liverpool, they are underdogs again. Am I wrong or does it smell like shit?
Real Madrid is underrated, many fans think Liverpool is really strong since they have beat Napoli and Tottenham Hotspur because before this they always lose or draw only. Actually Real Madrid is a strong contender who can be a champion in this season.

Here's my bet for the round of 16:

PSG @2.29 vs Munich @2.85
AC Milan @2.48 vs Tottenham @2.85
Dortmund @2.80 vs Chelsea @2.47
Brugge @3.40 vs Benfica @2.11
Frankfurt @3.00 vs Napoli @2.31
Liverpool @2.01 vs Real Madrid @3.45
Inter Milan @1.99 vs Porto @3.70
Leipzig @4.60 vs Manchester City @1.68
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November 08, 2022, 01:58:32 AM
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Liverpool each struggle with their front lines, Nunez still hasn't contributed anything to Liverpool so it's very difficult for them to be included in potential champion candidates, while Napoli is an inconsistent team, we know in the last few seasons they have played normally but in this season they are looking good, if Napoli meets a big team like Madrid, PSG or Bayern, Napoli will surely lose.
Having said that, Napoli will be that smaller team that the big teams will be hoping to avoid, not that they cannot defeat them, but because it could be tricky, and absolutely anything can happen, i get this feeling that Napoli are going to provide an upset in this season's CL, not that they'd win it, of course they can't, but they might just eliminate a team that nobody gave them a chance against.
I think Napoli are the underdogs in the UCL this season, they are the unpredicted team.

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If you want to know that Nunez is trying in Liverpool, stop comparing him to Haaland and Mane.
I just don't think it's wrong if I compare Nunez with Haaland or Mane because it's based on the transfer value of each player.

Nunez must immediately adapt to Liverpool's pattern of play and bring Liverpool to the semifinals as possible, otherwise, he will be labeled a flop.

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November 08, 2022, 02:39:44 AM
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We have another tough challenge in the Champions League. Real Madrid is the defending champion and has won many UCL titles Head to head Liverpool have 3 wins, 1 draw and 5 wins for Real Madrid, so it's clear from a statistical point of view that we don't outperform them but believe Liverpool this season will be much better to face this tough challenge.

We don't expect anything bad even though the league is still not stable but after the transfer window has gone through hopefully the Liverpool management can make some changes in the planned signing of players, and for the two injured strikers Jota and Diaz they will return well after waking up from his absence.

It's still too far for us to do that.
The drawing results that bring together our team with Real Madrid are a very expected coincidence. Some will consider too early Liverpool to meet Real Madrid because Liverpool's condition is still not ready. But for us this is a very good opportunity to prove that Real Madrid won the UEFA Champion League last season through the luck factor.
To strengthen the evidence, just look at their process into the final round against Liverpool.

Of course football does not apply formula 1+1=2, but meeting in the last 16 this season made us a little relieved.

Isn't it faster better?

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When I saw the results of Round 16's many stunning decisions, I grinned. It will be difficult for the qualifiers. Liverpool might not be in good shape this season, but they shouldn't be underrated. Napoli vs. Frankfurt with Napoli current performance should beat Frankfurt watching their performance in serial A and the other two matches that will be an entertaining are Dortmund vs. Chelsea and PSG playing Bayern. Let's see what each of these teams can do. Man City is playing against Leipzig is a starting bonus for Man City.
Liverpool just an equal opponent to the real madrid. Napoli could win against frankfurt easily without any doubt. The performance from napoli is really good at this moment. All of its players fully balanced in their positions. Even napoli was coming from serie a but it was a perfect team in serie a for now. Frankfurt may go out from the champion league against napoli. I take napoli for that match. I don't expect a lot from dortmund against chelsea. The performance from chelsea was really really bad at this moment in EPL.
It was always facing lose and this might become the end for chelsea in the champion league. The latest result from EPL that makes me doubt about performance of chelsea during champion league against dortmund.
PSG against bayern would become a very interesting thing for sure. Messi and friends must have faced the team that became the toughest team when messi was in barcelona. The chance to win the match against bayern is pretty small.

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November 08, 2022, 03:42:04 AM
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Nunez must immediately adapt to Liverpool's pattern of play and bring Liverpool to the semifinals as possible, otherwise, he will be labeled a flop.
It would be very funny if only one of the players was labeled a failure because of not being able to adapt quickly to the Liverpool team. Please note that the team is a collection of players as well as coaches and other high-ranking parties who all have the duty and responsibility to bring the team to a better and right direction. So there's no reason to blame just one player if the team goes downhill and doesn't get the performance that many fans want.
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When I saw the results of Round 16's many stunning decisions, I grinned. It will be difficult for the qualifiers. Liverpool might not be in good shape this season, but they shouldn't be underrated. Napoli vs. Frankfurt with Napoli current performance should beat Frankfurt watching their performance in serial A and the other two matches that will be an entertaining are Dortmund vs. Chelsea and PSG playing Bayern. Let's see what each of these teams can do. Man City is playing against Leipzig is a starting bonus for Man City.
Liverpool just an equal opponent to the real madrid. Napoli could win against frankfurt easily without any doubt. The performance from napoli is really good at this moment. All of its players fully balanced in their positions. Even napoli was coming from serie a but it was a perfect team in serie a for now. Frankfurt may go out from the champion league against napoli. I take napoli for that match. I don't expect a lot from dortmund against chelsea. The performance from chelsea was really really bad at this moment in EPL.
It was always facing lose and this might become the end for chelsea in the champion league. The latest result from EPL that makes me doubt about performance of chelsea during champion league against dortmund.
PSG against bayern would become a very interesting thing for sure. Messi and friends must have faced the team that became the toughest team when messi was in barcelona. The chance to win the match against bayern is pretty small.

@X-ray Liverpool performance against Napoli showed that they yet have that X factor, and Real Madrid are not invincible as we saw in their yesterday’s defeat hence I too feel that there’s no favourite team in this match. Furthermore I’ll favour Bayern over PSG as they’re well organised, and the only way PSG can stun Bayern is if Messi, Mbappe and Neymar sync to destroy Bayern’s defence and score lots of goals, but they have struggled many times this season to do that and will probably struggle against Bayern’s solid defence.
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When I saw the results of Round 16's many stunning decisions, I grinned. It will be difficult for the qualifiers. Liverpool might not be in good shape this season, but they shouldn't be underrated. Napoli vs. Frankfurt with Napoli current performance should beat Frankfurt watching their performance in serial A and the other two matches that will be an entertaining are Dortmund vs. Chelsea and PSG playing Bayern. Let's see what each of these teams can do. Man City is playing against Leipzig is a starting bonus for Man City.

Yes, Napoli is in a good position to defeat Frankfurt 2-0 to improve their points because their performance so far showed that it will be difficult for Frankfurt strikers to achieve a single goal in this match. I think, Chelsea will not allow Dortmund to defeat them in this match than to do everything possible within their power to embrace victory from this match to make their fans believe that they can still make it in this season. Chelsea will definitely achieve many goals from this match, because they will not allow what happened in the premier league competition that made Arsenal to defeated them 1-0 to happen in this UEFA champions league competition than to win the match 2-1.

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This will be another opportunity for Liverpool to play against Real Madrid. Liverpool has been doing great in the champions league, they will have a better opportunity this time to win against Real Madrid who also have been very good both in the champions league and their local league. Even without Benzema, Real Madrid still have lots of players who have good goal scoring ability. Even If injuries scatter the teams from the world cup, I will still pick Real Madrid over Liverpool.
Liverpool have the opportunity to prove their quality, even though it looks difficult to match Real Madrid's dominance in the Champions League. In terms of quality, maybe Liverpool are behind Real Madrid, but it is not impossible that they will do something different.
The match between the two teams has happened several times in the Champions League in the previous season, the dominance of the victory is still held by Real Madrid, Liverpool must prepare something different for the round of 16, If you don't want to accept defeat like the previous season.

Shittt yeah PSG must face bayern munich again. Messi would repeat the bad history against bayern again with the different team as he was playing in PSG. This gonna be epic match. The most interesting matches would be PSG - Bayern, Liverpool real, Chelsea and dormund.
I don't even think totenham can be considered as the hottest match. My main focus will be on the PSG against bayern which will become a very great match between the big teams with so many superstars. I will pick bayern for that over PSG as bayern has better mentality over PSG.

The match that would be the easiest match to predict must be chelsea against dortmund. The performance from chelsea is also very bad at this moment. It was also losing against arsenal recently which will make people feel doubt if it can win against dortmund.
Of the many matches available in the last 16, the ones that will be more interesting are PSG and Bayern Munich.
However, there is also another quite challenging match between Liverpool and Real Madrid.
We think these four clubs are one of the candidates to win this season, even though they have problems and have not been consistent in their respective leagues. Real Madrid and Bayern Munich have a bigger khan than many of the teams that have qualified in the last 16.

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When I saw the results of Round 16's many stunning decisions, I grinned. It will be difficult for the qualifiers. Liverpool might not be in good shape this season, but they shouldn't be underrated. Napoli vs. Frankfurt with Napoli current performance should beat Frankfurt watching their performance in serial A and the other two matches that will be an entertaining are Dortmund vs. Chelsea and PSG playing Bayern. Let's see what each of these teams can do. Man City is playing against Leipzig is a starting bonus for Man City.

Yes, Napoli is in a good position to defeat Frankfurt 2-0 to improve their points because their performance so far showed that it will be difficult for Frankfurt strikers to achieve a single goal in this match. I think, Chelsea will not allow Dortmund to defeat them in this match than to do everything possible within their power to embrace victory from this match to make their fans believe that they can still make it in this season. Chelsea will definitely achieve many goals from this match, because they will not allow what happened in the premier league competition that made Arsenal to defeated them 1-0 to happen in this UEFA champions league competition than to win the match 2-1.
Before you can determine the effect of the new coach, previous coach work on the players may last a while and wear out. I am not confident that Graham Potter can coach a top team like Chelsea. The next round will be next year, and I do not think Chelsea will be at that level to win, maybe due to an injury or bad management. When an experienced coach manages the team well, the players are good enough to beat any team. Arsenal does not have any players who are better than Chelsea in any part of the field. Also, Ancheloti has proven he can make the best out of a team even when Madrid was unable to compete at the highest level last season.
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Arguments about dominance, comebacks, the beauty of football, etc. it's just storytelling. I think you know how the winner is determined in football? We need to score more goals than the opponent and concede fewer. Real Madrid did it against the top 3 teams in the Premier League = it was stronger than them. If it was figure skating or synchronized swimming, maybe someone would have scored more points than Real (and won), but it was football, so Real became the champion.

Nobody is denying them their victory but just because they were champions last season doesn't make them a likely champions this season (especially as they don't have the goat at his prime, playing for them). The season they won the trophy they did humiliated the premier league side but that doesn't mean they were better than them with their on field play, they were just smarter and got the vital goals they needed. A Manchester city side would destroy this Real Madrid team anyday and so will an informed Liverpool side but when it comes to the final game Real Madrid always has an edge due to the experiment they have from playing multiple finals.

All I'm trying to say is that, you shouldn't disrespect the premier league side just because they lost to a lucky Real Madrid. The bookmarkers aren't dumb, they also want to make money and from their assessment of both clubs they have given Liverpool an edge because they see the quality in the team. It doesn't matter how many trophy Real Madrid wins, they're never the favorite and will never be. They only win when the other clubs don't live up to expectations.

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But in my opinion PSC is the best team. From world famous stars to world famous defenders they have in their team. But what their team lacks is beauty in every player Build relationships. If they develop a good relationship between themselves, they will become one of the best teams in the Champions League A few days ago Liverpool's performance was very bad but lately they have started playing well Hopefully they will give us a better game in the future
For me, the superiority of PSG over Bayern is not so obvious, especially since Galtier is not a very experienced coach for such a tournament, Bayern is my favorite in this pair. Liverpool can lose, it can win, I still don’t understand what to expect from them, but Real also lost the last game in La Liga, it’s difficult for any team to win all the time.
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