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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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November 23, 2022, 05:10:50 PM
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I think it's easier to compare games with Chelsea than games in Serie A and everything looks bad for Milan. Even with Chelsea now unusually low in the Premier League, they were able to beat Milan twice. Tottenham are technically better than Chelsea (since they are higher in the standings) so it looks like Milan will be the underdog in this pair. The only argument in favor of Milan is that the games in the group stage and the games in the playoffs are very different.
Primer League teams have consistency and always get good result when facing with Serie A team, this season Chelsea have inconsistency at Primer League success won from Milan at home and away matches, its seemed Primer League team have dominance than Serie A team and Spurs have quite well performance in Primer League than Chelsea.

The new owner from chelsea didn't have patience. He wants to sack potter. he must be ever more impatience rather than abramovich as an old owner of chelsea and the problem is when the coach didn't have the same vision with him and he will be sacking that coach instantly from the club.
Chelsea have contrast performance between domestic league and Champion League, I don't think good ideas when sacking Graham Potter early after several bad result at domestic league. Chelsea managed first standing position in group stage at Champion League and qualify to next round, I think if Graham Potter success bring Chelsea to final stage and bad achievement at domestic league not matter with his position keep secure.

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November 23, 2022, 05:24:12 PM
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You are right. However well Dortmund play then I will put Manchester City ahead of them. Because there are many players in the Manchester City team who have been supporting the team very well. Besides, one of the personalities of the team is the coach, who is very versatile. Manchester City will do well under his leadership.
Based on the squad depth of the two teams, Manchester City is superior to Dortmund. I think anyone who understands football will put Manchester as a team that can win. Manchester City will try to give their best game to go further in the Champions League. His dream of winning the UCL trophy will be a motivation for Manchester City players to provide competition to other favorite teams. Dortmund is a strong team, but not for Manchester City.

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November 23, 2022, 06:41:23 PM
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You are right. However well Dortmund play then I will put Manchester City ahead of them. Because there are many players in the Manchester City team who have been supporting the team very well. Besides, one of the personalities of the team is the coach, who is very versatile. Manchester City will do well under his leadership.
Based on the squad depth of the two teams, Manchester City is superior to Dortmund. I think anyone who understands football will put Manchester as a team that can win. Manchester City will try to give their best game to go further in the Champions League. His dream of winning the UCL trophy will be a motivation for Manchester City players to provide competition to other favorite teams. Dortmund is a strong team, but not for Manchester City.
If you examine very well the comparison between Manchester City and Dortmund does not hold water. Manchester City is superior to Dortmund and even Dortmund as a club is aware of this. How do you know a team that is superior to other, let me show you how to know it; In the world today is there a team that Dortmund is afraid to play? Yes! PSG, Bayern Munic,  Manchester City and Real Madrid

Then in the world today is there a team that Manchester City is afraid to play?
The answer is no there is no team that will give Manchester City to play.

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November 23, 2022, 07:06:19 PM
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If you examine very well the comparison between Manchester City and Dortmund does not hold water. Manchester City is superior to Dortmund and even Dortmund as a club is aware of this. How do you know a team that is superior to other, let me show you how to know it; In the world today is there a team that Dortmund is afraid to play? Yes! PSG, Bayern Munic,  Manchester City and Real Madrid

Then in the world today is there a team that Manchester City is afraid to play?
The answer is no there is no team that will give Manchester City to play.

Giggled seeing your post... How bout Real Madrid, Bayern Munich ? Did you miss out on em ? Are they table tennis playing club's ? Nah!!!
It's football, at the end of the match the most dominant side might still end up loosing, if they fail to take good use of the chances they have. And also some errors from coaches who bring in player's who cannot manage the game very well, they'll end up loosing.

It's totally pointless comparing Manchester City and Borrussia Dortmund, so far last season and this season Manchester City has been a better side to the German Side. Can you remember vividly when Dortmund won Real Madrid four goals with Madrid having non ?
It's football, Manchester City are currently in a good form no doubts. I would consider it stupid comparing them both.

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November 23, 2022, 08:42:54 PM
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As long as I am concerned I still believe that Graham Potter is a good coach and he will make good coaching career and Chelsea according to SatoPrincess what he need is time and Chelsea board needs to have patient with Graham Potter to be able to sync his method into the mind of Chelsea players and besides he don't have the hundred percent available players to man up the competition in the English Premier League. I am believing that by next year all his men will be available and Graham Potter would be able to give his best
Nobody really claims that he is a "bad" manager, it’s just that is he good enough for Chelsea? That's the question. Tuchel was so great that he won UCL with this team and then they spent so much more money on a team that already won UCL and still sucked. That is a proof that there is a problem within the team and Potter doesn't seem like he is fixing any of that.

I am not saying that he is bad, for the teams he managed so far, he has been good, he overachieved, but bringing a team that was expected to be 17th to 12th is another thing from making a team who was seen as 5th best to 3rd best, those are very different results and require different type of manager.
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November 23, 2022, 08:48:26 PM
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I think Benzema will be fit again in time to participate in the CL. But it will not be nice for Real Madrid to know that Benzema is injured. A minimum of 5-6 weeks out will not mean the end of the season, but he will still need to give his body time to recover from the injury. He will be disappointed that he cannot go to the World Cup, but fortunately it is still a relatively mild injury. There have been players in the past in the Champions League who could not play for months. Real Madrid still have a reasonable chance of winning the tournament, but the draw against Liverpool is not in their favour.

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November 23, 2022, 10:21:52 PM
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Inter have seemed so far like they care about the Champions League a little more than the Serie A. Because their performance in the group stage was really impressive. Especially against Barcelona they had really nice results and these ones played the biggest role in their advancing to last 16 round also. On the other hand, they are struggling to keep up with the leader just as the other teams in the Serie A. They are very productive there but they are just dealing with some defensive issues.

I think that they will continue to care about the Champions League the most for now. Because they have a really nice draw in this round against Porto. They are clearly the favourite of this draw and I believe in them to reach the quarter finals. As it is really difficult for them to fight for the Serie A title they can at least push as much as possible in the Champions League.
Sometimes I wonder how a team will care so much about a competition and care less about another. Inter have been playing impressive football in the Champions league and poorly in the Seria A. I think they need to put in more effort in the league same way they put when they play in the Champions league. They have a nice draw indeed with Porto, this seems to be much easier for them but will it always be that lucky for them?

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November 24, 2022, 10:15:35 AM
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The first games in the Champions League don't really matter. For example, last year Sheriff in the first two rounds beat Shakhtar and then Real at the Santiago Bernabeu and led the group, but then everything fell into place. Everyone understood that Chelsea would advance to the next stage, the only surprise for me was that they scored 6 points in the games with Milan, I expected 4.
At the moment, Chelsea are extremely far from being favorites to win the Champions League. Bookmakers estimate their chances as 1 to 13.

Why should that surprise you, are you forgetting that Chelsea was the last two seasons tournament winners that surprised the whole world when they fought their way through to the finals and defeated an informed Manchester city side to lift the trophy. Chelsea has excellent players but just lack a manager to motivate them correctly. We could all see how good the side is when the players gets the right motivation from the manager (Thomas Tuchel using this underrated squad to lift the trophy and Potter going from last in the group to winning the group).

Last two seasons, we weren't favorite as well but yet we lifted the trophy while defeating all the so called favorites. This season I'm not over expecting much from the players since we're yet to have a full squad, the like of Kante and Reece James are injured and that's giving some unbalanced to the team. When we do get our full squad back, I can bodly say we'll defeat any team that dares to stand in our way of lifting the trophy. Potter is an excellent manager, this is just a phase that'll pass and I'm expecting that after the world cup break, Chelsea should easily return to their previous form of winning games convincingly.
By this statement I believe CB is of the opinion Thomas Tuchel had the ability to motivate them correctly and winning trophies with the underrated squad he had. This just tells how good Thomas Tuchel was and until now I insist Chelsea were wrong and mistaken to sack Tuchel. Honestly with Potter I think it will also be difficult to get results with Potter probably until two or three seasons for Potter to reorganise the team and also strengthen his side If he doesn't end up being sacked.

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November 24, 2022, 11:22:02 AM
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Inter have seemed so far like they care about the Champions League a little more than the Serie A. Because their performance in the group stage was really impressive. Especially against Barcelona they had really nice results and these ones played the biggest role in their advancing to last 16 round also. On the other hand, they are struggling to keep up with the leader just as the other teams in the Serie A. They are very productive there but they are just dealing with some defensive issues.

I think that they will continue to care about the Champions League the most for now. Because they have a really nice draw in this round against Porto. They are clearly the favourite of this draw and I believe in them to reach the quarter finals. As it is really difficult for them to fight for the Serie A title they can at least push as much as possible in the Champions League.
Sometimes I wonder how a team will care so much about a competition and care less about another. Inter have been playing impressive football in the Champions league and poorly in the Seria A. I think they need to put in more effort in the league same way they put when they play in the Champions league. They have a nice draw indeed with Porto, this seems to be much easier for them but will it always be that lucky for them?
I thin that you shall not put porto as an underrated team as now. Porto itself can defeat intermilan. The problem is we didn't know whether intermilan can beat it easily or it will have a tough game against porto. Porto was not even underrated at this moment caused by porto was quite consistence during the group stage. It has managed to lose only 1 match. It was easily passing to the next stage and it has become the winner of group. I think that intermilan might be defeated easily by porto.
I will take porto on that match caused by i believe on how consistent porto during the group stage will be affecting the result in the last 16.

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November 24, 2022, 11:28:38 AM
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By this statement I believe CB is of the opinion Thomas Tuchel had the ability to motivate them correctly and winning trophies with the underrated squad he had. This just tells how good Thomas Tuchel was and until now I insist Chelsea were wrong and mistaken to sack Tuchel. Honestly with Potter I think it will also be difficult to get results with Potter probably until two or three seasons for Potter to reorganise the team and also strengthen his side If he doesn't end up being sacked.

I have always thought that Thomas Tuchel is among the top 3 coaches in the football world for a few years now. He is one of the very few coaches that really improved every club that he joined. He even managed to be on the first position of the Bundesliga table for a few matchdays with his first team as a coach, Mainz that was a huge underdog. Then he was leading Paris St. Germain into the final of the Champions League where they lost only because Bayern Munich had a little bit more luck that day.
Then he a Chelsea team that was totally down and far away from being successful and he made them climb in the premier League again and also win the Champions League title, which was an amazing performance. I think Tuchel should be the top candidate to sign for every club that is looking for a coach.
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November 24, 2022, 11:36:33 AM
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Sometimes I wonder how a team will care so much about a competition and care less about another. Inter have been playing impressive football in the Champions league and poorly in the Seria A. I think they need to put in more effort in the league same way they put when they play in the Champions league. They have a nice draw indeed with Porto, this seems to be much easier for them but will it always be that lucky for them?
I think at first they focused on 2 competitions at once, but halfway there was something that made them have to focus on one competition. That could have happened because as we saw at Inter Milan, they are so different when they play in Serie A and the Champions League. Yes, they should be really serious about any competition, but sometimes not all teams can do that due to several factors, such as tired players or so on.

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November 24, 2022, 12:51:42 PM
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This could be true because he knows the characteristics of the players he buys and of course the results show especially when you see Kulusevski now who is doing better at Tottenham.
On the other hand, I feel that Milan's game is not very good for Serie A even though they are in 2nd position.
At the moment their midfield and defense are not very good even if you look at their goal conceding ratio this is actually bad for a big club class.
Even though there is still hope but I am still quite confident with Tottenham in this regard with a record that there will be no significant changes for the players in the transfer break.

I think it's easier to compare games with Chelsea than games in Serie A and everything looks bad for Milan. Even with Chelsea now unusually low in the Premier League, they were able to beat Milan twice. Tottenham are technically better than Chelsea (since they are higher in the standings) so it looks like Milan will be the underdog in this pair. The only argument in favor of Milan is that the games in the group stage and the games in the playoffs are very different.
This is quite reasonable, because in any case when you look at the condition of Milan, especially against EPL clubs, especially with Chelsea in the Champions League group phase, it is clear that this can indeed be a differentiator as well. But indeed we also can't make it look like Milan is a bad club because they are also one of the big clubs and even the defending champions in Serie A although in the end this will look a bit too much because of their current condition.

There will be a lot of consideration in this especially when it is now on a fairly long hiatus so we can only guess but there will likely be different speculation after the transfer opens because there could be some changes for the main Squad of the two clubs especially until now Leao is also still monitored by Madrid who could have gone to the Bernabeu in this transfer.

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November 24, 2022, 01:17:45 PM
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I think it's easier to compare games with Chelsea than games in Serie A and everything looks bad for Milan. Even with Chelsea now unusually low in the Premier League, they were able to beat Milan twice. Tottenham are technically better than Chelsea (since they are higher in the standings) so it looks like Milan will be the underdog in this pair. The only argument in favor of Milan is that the games in the group stage and the games in the playoffs are very different.
Primer League teams have consistency and always get good result when facing with Serie A team, this season Chelsea have inconsistency at Primer League success won from Milan at home and away matches, its seemed Primer League team have dominance than Serie A team and Spurs have quite well performance in Primer League than Chelsea.

I think it's not the dominance of the Premier League clubs, but the fact that the level of Serie A clubs has fallen. Last year, two teams were eliminated in the group stage and two at once in the 1/8 finals.
This season, three clubs have reached the 1/8 finals and two of them have easy opponents (relative to other options), let's see how they can use this opportunity.

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November 24, 2022, 03:58:39 PM
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I think it's not the dominance of the Premier League clubs, but the fact that the level of Serie A clubs has fallen. Last year, two teams were eliminated in the group stage and two at once in the 1/8 finals.
This season, three clubs have reached the 1/8 finals and two of them have easy opponents (relative to other options), let's see how they can use this opportunity.
Here I agreed with you, we have big fall in Serie A teams in last few years specially fall in at the top which kill beauty and aggression of this league, and now they are facing deep troubles even in this season we have some better improvement but still now it's long way to go for them if they want to fight for their supremacy in Champions League teams like AC Milan, Inter and Juventus are badly down even out of the top ranks with their inner issues and right now Napoli is trying to cover things, but surely it's not easy with in last few years we have good dominance by English clubs which are doing their best for improving quality and performance which is helping them for having better results in Champions League with Germans are also trying to do better, but they are also not as they have to be for this prestigious league.
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November 24, 2022, 05:30:24 PM
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Sometimes I wonder how a team will care so much about a competition and care less about another. Inter have been playing impressive football in the Champions league and poorly in the Seria A. I think they need to put in more effort in the league same way they put when they play in the Champions league. They have a nice draw indeed with Porto, this seems to be much easier for them but will it always be that lucky for them?
I think at first they focused on 2 competitions at once, but halfway there was something that made them have to focus on one competition. That could have happened because as we saw at Inter Milan, they are so different when they play in Serie A and the Champions League. Yes, they should be really serious about any competition, but sometimes not all teams can do that due to several factors, such as tired players or so on.
After being 11 points behind Napoli at the top of the standings, Inter's focus in Serie A has diminished slightly, Serie A this season has been very competitive which has forced Inter to fight hard to return to the top four positions. Inter still have hope in the Champions League, but Inter's chances of getting into the quarter-finals are very small, the favorite clubs will pose a threat to Inter. Manchester City, Real Madrid, Munich and PSG are opponents that Inter will find difficult to beat.
Inter's performance was very good in the group stage, but I don't think Inter will be able to maintain their form against the favorites.

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November 24, 2022, 05:44:53 PM
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I thin that you shall not put porto as an underrated team as now. Porto itself can defeat intermilan. The problem is we didn't know whether intermilan can beat it easily or it will have a tough game against porto. Porto was not even underrated at this moment caused by porto was quite consistence during the group stage. It has managed to lose only 1 match. It was easily passing to the next stage and it has become the winner of group. I think that intermilan might be defeated easily by porto.
I will take porto on that match caused by i believe on how consistent porto during the group stage will be affecting the result in the last 16.
Now as we are heading for the knock-out stage no team is having tag of underrated because these 16 teams are surely best from UEFA and here any team can give the best performance on his game day which can create problems for opponent Porto was having best campaign in group stage and lost just two games but still they have done good recovery through their performance and quality on other side Inter is also having some trouble in early matches but after settling they were at the top of their games so just because of this they are now into last 16 specially beating Barcelona is amazing for them.

In this match most chances both teams will try to have better advantage at home and this is going to be vital which team will perform better and have better aggregate will be able to have his spot into last eight, both are level in quality and performance.
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November 24, 2022, 06:18:03 PM
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Sometimes I wonder how a team will care so much about a competition and care less about another. Inter have been playing impressive football in the Champions league and poorly in the Seria A. I think they need to put in more effort in the league same way they put when they play in the Champions league. They have a nice draw indeed with Porto, this seems to be much easier for them but will it always be that lucky for them?
I think at first they focused on 2 competitions at once, but halfway there was something that made them have to focus on one competition. That could have happened because as we saw at Inter Milan, they are so different when they play in Serie A and the Champions League. Yes, they should be really serious about any competition, but sometimes not all teams can do that due to several factors, such as tired players or so on.
I am feeling there is personal opinion about this with Inter current form is showing they are doing good job in both competitions because they were struggling badly in early rounds of the Serie A.

But, lately they recovered well and now having good spot in league table which is surely going to help them after break for having better spot and their performance in Champions League is also on their best with they are able to achieve their target of having spot into last sixteen with now having fair chance for going into quarterfinal because they are improving their quality and performance which is helping them and this could be positive development for them with Napoli and AC Milan are also having good performance but now most chances after long time we will be able to have two teams from Serie A into last eight which is going to be good for the Italian fans after long wait.

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By this statement I believe CB is of the opinion Thomas Tuchel had the ability to motivate them correctly and winning trophies with the underrated squad he had. This just tells how good Thomas Tuchel was and until now I insist Chelsea were wrong and mistaken to sack Tuchel. Honestly with Potter I think it will also be difficult to get results with Potter probably until two or three seasons for Potter to reorganise the team and also strengthen his side If he doesn't end up being sacked.
Tuchel and Potter are two different coaches, but of course Tuchel is much better than Potter to most people. But I don't think Chelsea made a very big mistake by hiring Potter as a coach because actually Potter is also believed to be able to make a positive difference for Chelsea. I think Chelsea supporters just need to support any club decision regarding Potter even if they really don't believe Potter can turn things around.

Everything is still in the process stage and I believe Potter still needs to adapt better and find the best solution to improve his team's performance. We'll see how Potter will be able to do his job in the second half of the season but to be honest I think he will be able to guide Chelsea to a safe top 4 finish.

 
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November 24, 2022, 06:48:52 PM
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After being 11 points behind Napoli at the top of the standings, Inter's focus in Serie A has diminished slightly, Serie A this season has been very competitive which has forced Inter to fight hard to return to the top four positions. Inter still have hope in the Champions League, but Inter's chances of getting into the quarter-finals are very small, the favorite clubs will pose a threat to Inter. Manchester City, Real Madrid, Munich and PSG are opponents that Inter will find difficult to beat.
Inter's performance was very good in the group stage, but I don't think Inter will be able to maintain their form against the favorites.
Inter Milan have long enough time to improve their perform in Serie A as the Champions League round of 16 against with FC Porto takes place on February 23 next year. Have several weeks domestic league running and Inter Milan have chance back to top standing position based on how their consistency. I think have advantage for several team still in 16 round of Champion League improve their performance at domestic league, not only with Inter but also Liverpool have inconsistency at domestic league after finish before international break out from top fourth standing placed.

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November 24, 2022, 07:38:08 PM
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After being 11 points behind Napoli at the top of the standings, Inter's focus in Serie A has diminished slightly, Serie A this season has been very competitive which has forced Inter to fight hard to return to the top four positions. Inter still have hope in the Champions League, but Inter's chances of getting into the quarter-finals are very small, the favorite clubs will pose a threat to Inter. Manchester City, Real Madrid, Munich and PSG are opponents that Inter will find difficult to beat.
Inter's performance was very good in the group stage, but I don't think Inter will be able to maintain their form against the favorites.
Inter Milan have long enough time to improve their perform in Serie A as the Champions League round of 16 against with FC Porto takes place on February 23 next year. Have several weeks domestic league running and Inter Milan have chance back to top standing position based on how their consistency. I think have advantage for several team still in 16 round of Champion League improve their performance at domestic league, not only with Inter but also Liverpool have inconsistency at domestic league after finish before international break out from top fourth standing placed.

Inter Milan have no goal or chance of winning the Serie A title. Inter Milan are now playing in Serie A just to qualify for the Champions League. And so Inter Milan's aim now should be to perform well in the Champions League. Inter Milan will probably not focus on Serie A now. Liverpool, on the other hand, are now sixth in the Premier League points table. They won only 6 out of 14 matches. And qualifying for the Champions League is also very difficult for Liverpool. The Liverpool coach is now only looking to stabilize his squad. Their target is probably the title next season.

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