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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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February 15, 2023, 05:18:21 AM
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1-0 is not high score but this is important winning because Bayern has get it from away matches and PSG have do work more hard if want to qualified because at least they have to scoring 2 goals in the second leg and it won't be easy because Bayern at home were very strong and during group stage Bayern were unbeatable even Barcelona and Inter has been lose at there

Regarding the match why Gatlier played Mbappe not since beginning of match i will assume Mbappe still not fully recover so it's risky to playing him since early minutes and actually PSG game were better after Mbappe played even 10 minutes before second half ended i can see PSG has make some attempts through an Mbappe, Neymar and Messi but unfortunately they still can't even equalized the score
Many people think that PSG's 0-1 defeat has allowed Bayern Munich to easily qualify for the quarter-finals. PSG basically still has a chance to qualify for the quarter-finals if they win the second leg at the Allianz Arena with a good score difference. That is possible even though Bayern Munich have won the first leg. PSG's victory is not something impossible, but they have to work harder to win it.

The second round will be played in March, but to judge this match we only have to see how both of them perform in Ligue 1 and the Bundesliga. Each of the two teams have 3 games before the second leg, and a lot of things will change for that game I think.
The result was obvious. It was just the hope of the PSG players that a miracle would happen before Mbappe entered the game. Four shots were off target while one was on target at that point. However, it is more important to focus on what's coming next. The issue is that this is a home defeat for PSG, and I am concerned that they will be humiliated once more at the Allianz Arena and once again in the second leg. The situation could be improved in many ways. Despite the fact that the road is not always smooth, PSG still has chances to make a difference and we shouldn't give up.

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February 15, 2023, 05:19:02 AM
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This could be the worst timing for Chelsea to be playing against Borussia Dortmund in the Uefa Champions League, Borussia Dortmund are currently sitting on a wonderful form in the Bundesliga league and vice versa Chelsea are clearly struggling to even score goals at the moment. With the home fans cheering for Borussia Dortmund, I think Borussia Dortmund should be able to beat Chelsea at the final whistle.
In terms of performance, it looks like Dortmund is much more convincing because in the last six matches in all competitions Dortmund have always won. And in the Bundesliga, Dortmund is ranked 3rd in the standings which is only 3 points adrift of Bayern Munich who are at the top of the standings which in my opinion Dortmund is easy to overtake Bayern Munich. The reason is, their performance is very good this season.
and while Chelsea are currently in very poor form and difficult to score goals and are currently 10th in the table, and with this we can judge who is better for both teams.
and indeed UCL is a very important league for all teams. But their performance in their respective leagues can have an effect.

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February 15, 2023, 05:35:59 AM
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The next match will be chelsea against dortmund. I reckon if chelsea will not able to beat dortmund in the first leg. Its current squad didn't good team work. Chelsea must be facing dortmund which is also going back to the best performance again.
It's very bad to see that some key players like aubameyang must be removed from the list of players that participated in the UCL. Moreover, chelsea will be using all of new players that already bought during january.
This gonna be a very big gamble for chelsea as we know that the new formation of chelsea never got even a single win in EPL. Will chelsea able to defeat dortmund in the upcoming match?
Dortmund will be trying to win with as many goal as possible against chelsea to make sure chelsea will face difficulties in the second leg.

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February 15, 2023, 05:40:22 AM
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This could be the worst timing for Chelsea to be playing against Borussia Dortmund in the Uefa Champions League, Borussia Dortmund are currently sitting on a wonderful form in the Bundesliga league and vice versa Chelsea are clearly struggling to even score goals at the moment. With the home fans cheering for Borussia Dortmund, I think Borussia Dortmund should be able to beat Chelsea at the final whistle.
This is a very frightening and heart beating period for Chelsea fans. They have a team that is filled with top-class talented players that lacks coordination and strategy. Coach Graham Potter seems to be confused and helpless when it comes to tactics. Based on current performance Borussia Dortmund has the advantage but this is the Champions League and not the EPL. We have seen teams that are struggling in their local league putting up some wonderful performances in the CL. The Chelsea team is still through its transformational stage but this doesn't allow any opponent to underrate them. Winning the Champions League seems to be the only way Chelsea can be part of European football next year, thus the players will put in their best.
Well said mate, very well said, Chelsea, though have been struggling for a while now, still cannot or rather, should not be underrated, they know how important every match is for them, and they know when it is really important for them to play their best regardless of the circumstances they find themselves.

And besides, for what Chelsea have been going through, i will put the blame on their coach for it all, for personal reason though.

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February 15, 2023, 05:48:31 AM
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Yes, another reason is PSG doesn't have a champion mentally to face Bayern even has a superstar squad. Maybe because of this reason Mbappe want to leave. As we know, it's not fast to build that mental even have alot of money, The club like PSG, Man City and others is have money to buy expensive player and build the superstar squad and maybe able to stand to local league, but it's not work when fight on Champion League where must have mentally like Bayern and Madrid.
The situation in Leg 2 at the Allianz Arena could be reversed although that seems difficult.

For last night's result, PSG made it clear that their mentality is not in Europe's highest competition but only in the Domestic League. It may take a few more seasons for PSG to be able to form the mentality we discussed.

It should be with the presence of players like Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, Ramos to Donnarumma in the PSG squad can get a victory at home.
Last night's match statistics PSG also lost from ball possession to the number of shoots.
PSG was only able to make 9 shoots, while Bayern Munich managed to record 18.

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February 15, 2023, 05:55:47 AM
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while milan vs tottenham ended with a narrow win for milan, it was really a good performance shown by diaz, he managed to score a quick goal for milan's victory. even though Milan's performance in the local league is bad, in the champions league I quite appreciate Milan's performance, the second leg will take place at home to Tottenham, I wonder if Milan will be able to hold a draw or even win again from Tottenham later.
It seems that not many people are talking about Milan's win over Tottenham today because PSG's loss to Bayern Munich was much more global. I have to care enough about how Milan accomplishes its mission after not being consistent in Serie A, and this win is a good sign of confidence from everyone.

PSG, who hosted Bayern Munich, had to admit the advantage of the away team after Coman scored. That was the only legitimate goal in the match even though PSG had scored a goal which was later disallowed for offside. VAR has helped Bayern Munich win at the Parc des Princes, and PSG have been very unlucky during the match.
Yes, I was more surprised by the result of the Milan-Tottenham match, too. That's where the result was really unexpected, given Milan's weak performance in Serie A, but here they gave it their all, scored a quick goal and held the lead. Tottenham as usual with such a squad of players shows an extremely unstable and unpredictable game. In the match against Milan Tottenham created almost no chances, an extremely pale game.

Bayern won more or less as expected. I think they underestimate Bayern's pressing, which I think decided the outcome of the game. PSG could create almost nothing under such pressure.

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February 15, 2023, 06:01:46 AM
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Yes, another reason is PSG doesn't have a champion mentally to face Bayern even has a superstar squad. Maybe because of this reason Mbappe want to leave. As we know, it's not fast to build that mental even have alot of money, The club like PSG, Man City and others is have money to buy expensive player and build the superstar squad and maybe able to stand to local league, but it's not work when fight on Champion League where must have mentally like Bayern and Madrid.
The situation in Leg 2 at the Allianz Arena could be reversed although that seems difficult.

For last night's result, PSG made it clear that their mentality is not in Europe's highest competition but only in the Domestic League. It may take a few more seasons for PSG to be able to form the mentality we discussed.

It should be with the presence of players like Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, Ramos to Donnarumma in the PSG squad can get a victory at home.
Last night's match statistics PSG also lost from ball possession to the number of shoots.
PSG was only able to make 9 shoots, while Bayern Munich managed to record 18.
Even before this match took place, I predicted that Bayern Munich would be superior in terms of mentality even though they were under a lot of pressure from the home fans. And in the gameplay, it is clear that they are having a very difficult time building attacks and developing their game. Bayern Munich, on the other hand, tried to keep pressure on the defense from Paris Saint-Germain, even though it was difficult but in the end they were able to find a way to score a goal. An aggregate of 1 goal is very valuable for Bayern Munich because in the second leg they will play at home and that is something that is profitable for them.

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February 15, 2023, 06:04:13 AM
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Yes, another reason is PSG doesn't have a champion mentally to face Bayern even has a superstar squad.
PSG have more star and super star players than Bayern but as a team, Bayern have a stronger team than PSG.

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Maybe because of this reason Mbappe want to leave. As we know, it's not fast to build that mental even have alot of money, The club like PSG, Man City and others is have money to buy expensive player and build the superstar squad and maybe able to stand to local league, but it's not work when fight on Champion League where must have mentally like Bayern and Madrid.
One cup in Champions League will change everything like how it did for Chelsea. After winning a first cup, with good players and rich finance, they are always in top of best competitors in Champions League and they are not fearful when playing against any club in Europe. PSG now need a first important title to change their club history and improve mentality of their players.

The situation in Leg 2 at the Allianz Arena could be reversed although that seems difficult.
It will be a more difficult match for PSG because Bayern will be more dangerous at their home.

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It should be with the presence of players like Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, Ramos to Donnarumma in the PSG squad can get a victory at home.
Last night's match statistics PSG also lost from ball possession to the number of shoots.
PSG was only able to make 9 shoots, while Bayern Munich managed to record 18.
If I watch the match and don't know where it was hosted, I would think it was hosted in Munich, not in Paris. PSG players are responsible for the defeat so does Galtier who seems to be a wrong choice of PSG for their coach position. So far, Galtier did not too good jobs in Ligue 1 and Champions League. Even in Ligue 1, they are struggling to protect their first position with many bad results lately.

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February 15, 2023, 06:24:09 AM
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the 2nd leg will be played at home to Bayern and I think it will be even more difficult for PSG, what Galtier did by not including Mbappe in the starting lineup was a little confusing because as we all know Mbappe is a very important player in the PSG team.
PSG are currently losing by Agg 1 goal, indeed it is not a difficult thing, but because the second leg will be played at home to Bayern makes it a little difficult for them, but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
But it's also not easy for Bayern Munich when they face PSG in the second leg at home, because conceding one goal is not a big aggregate for PSG, so there is still a chance if PSG perform much better like the first leg. Mbappe tidak menjadi starter karena masalah kebugaran setelah kembali dari cedera, sehingga memulai pertandingan dari bangku cadangan pada menit ke-57, while Galtier tried to rotate and started Warren Zaire Emery in midfield although this decision proved to be the wrong one. Because PSG actually has Fabian Ruiz who has proven to be more experienced and able to keep up with the game.

Evidenced by the inclusion of Fabian Ruiz and Vitinha PSG's game is more coordinated, the midfield is more solid and able to make some dangerous moves at Bayern Munich's back line. A one-goal advantage will certainly benefit Bayern Munich in the second leg, but there is still a chance if PSG can make a comeback in the second leg later at the Allianz Arena.

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February 15, 2023, 06:37:11 AM
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If I watch the match and don't know where it was hosted, I would think it was hosted in Munich, not in Paris. PSG players are responsible for the defeat so does Galtier who seems to be a wrong choice of PSG for their coach position. So far, Galtier did not too good jobs in Ligue 1 and Champions League. Even in Ligue 1, they are struggling to protect their first position with many bad results lately.

Bayern dominated the whole match (in some episodes, PSG tried to do something, but in general they were inferior), the Bayern players were simply faster, they were more active in the selection and moved faster around the field. Yes, PSG had to defend most of the time, even at the moment when they were losing, they did not always manage to create a constructive attack. To a large extent, this is Galtier's fault, since the physical form of the players is not ideal, and this is not forgiven at the playoff stage of the Champions League.

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February 15, 2023, 06:41:57 AM
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the 2nd leg will be played at home to Bayern and I think it will be even more difficult for PSG, what Galtier did by not including Mbappe in the starting lineup was a little confusing because as we all know Mbappe is a very important player in the PSG team.
PSG are currently losing by Agg 1 goal, indeed it is not a difficult thing, but because the second leg will be played at home to Bayern makes it a little difficult for them, but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
But it's also not easy for Bayern Munich when they face PSG in the second leg at home, because conceding one goal is not a big aggregate for PSG, so there is still a chance if PSG perform much better like the first leg. Mbappe tidak menjadi starter karena masalah kebugaran setelah kembali dari cedera, sehingga memulai pertandingan dari bangku cadangan pada menit ke-57, while Galtier tried to rotate and started Warren Zaire Emery in midfield although this decision proved to be the wrong one. Because PSG actually has Fabian Ruiz who has proven to be more experienced and able to keep up with the game.

Evidenced by the inclusion of Fabian Ruiz and Vitinha PSG's game is more coordinated, the midfield is more solid and able to make some dangerous moves at Bayern Munich's back line. A one-goal advantage will certainly benefit Bayern Munich in the second leg, but there is still a chance if PSG can make a comeback in the second leg later at the Allianz Arena.
I don't see PSG winning in the second leg, Bayern Munich was a better team last night and will still dorminate PSG in the second leg at home. I thought Messi and mbappa was injured, when I saw then on the team lineups,I knew the coach was taking risk. They're injured but fear of Bayern Munich made the coach to risk them play, yet they lose the game to 10 men of Bayern Munich after the red.

Tottenham Hotspur also lose to Ac Milan, Tottenham Hotspur may won the second leg at home,because they dorminate the Milan team, and probably may add more strength in the second leg.
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February 15, 2023, 06:42:22 AM
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Second leg on on March 9 become opportunity for PSG come back after losing 1-0 and should win above two goals if want qualify to quarter final round. Actually losing one goal still not close yet chance for PSG can exist in Champion League but last looking on their performance very poor seems difficult for PSG qualify to next round.

Unbelievable with AC Milan performance last night although underperformance in domestic league but success won 1-0 against Tottenham Hotspur and becoming their capital against second leg, get draw have been enough for AC Milan settle for quarter final round and become great achievement after bad performance in domestic league.

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February 15, 2023, 07:12:46 AM
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If I watch the match and don't know where it was hosted, I would think it was hosted in Munich, not in Paris. PSG players are responsible for the defeat so does Galtier who seems to be a wrong choice of PSG for their coach position. So far, Galtier did not too good jobs in Ligue 1 and Champions League. Even in Ligue 1, they are struggling to protect their first position with many bad results lately.
Extreme player blunders that resulted in a 1–0 loss are a dreadful stain on the team. They might not advance to the next round, but if they strive for improvement and prepare more diligently for their next match, in which they will travel to Germany to take on the Bavarians once more, they might triumph. Of course, this is football, and I've seen some incredible comebacks, so nothing is impossible. Bayern Munich dominated the entire game thanks to outstanding performances from the players. Parisians' poor game performance in Parc des Princes. For such a large club, Christophe Galtier's failure to employ the proper approach to the game in both elite competition and their home league is incredibly upsetting.

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February 15, 2023, 07:17:20 AM
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The situation in Leg 2 at the Allianz Arena could be reversed although that seems difficult.

For last night's result, PSG made it clear that their mentality is not in Europe's highest competition but only in the Domestic League. It may take a few more seasons for PSG to be able to form the mentality we discussed.

It should be with the presence of players like Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, Ramos to Donnarumma in the PSG squad can get a victory at home.
Last night's match statistics PSG also lost from ball possession to the number of shoots.
PSG was only able to make 9 shoots, while Bayern Munich managed to record 18.
Even before this match took place, I predicted that Bayern Munich would be superior in terms of mentality even though they were under a lot of pressure from the home fans. And in the gameplay, it is clear that they are having a very difficult time building attacks and developing their game. Bayern Munich, on the other hand, tried to keep pressure on the defense from Paris Saint-Germain, even though it was difficult but in the end they were able to find a way to score a goal. An aggregate of 1 goal is very valuable for Bayern Munich because in the second leg they will play at home and that is something that is profitable for them.
Many people miss predictions like the one you gave for the PSG vs Bayern Munich match. Now everyone is talking about PSG's chances of failing in the UEFA Champion League, but I still feel confident if Messi, Neymar and Mbappe can make things reversed in Leg 2 even though PSG's mentality is doubtful to happen like what I believe.
Winning with a score of 0-1 does open up a great opportunity for Die Bayern to qualify for the next round, but losing Pavard could be a drawback to the depth of the Bayern Munich squad even though Jurgen Nagelsmann still has several worthy replacements.

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February 15, 2023, 07:36:15 AM
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That means mbappe was not fully recovered. That's why he got benched. The problem is PSG can do nothing in the first half. So many attacks were coming from bayern. PSG should have won the match but it seems like that PSG must accept the truth if the club must face bayern in allianz arena with the very difficult situation caused by PSG losing in aggregate against bayern. Bayern is now trying to perform the best. what a comeback from bayern.
People who have faith in bayern must got decent money from there. PSG can do nothing with all of its superstars.
Yes, another reason is PSG doesn't have a champion mentally to face Bayern even has a superstar squad. Maybe because of this reason Mbappe want to leave. As we know, it's not fast to build that mental even have alot of money, The club like PSG, Man City and others is have money to buy expensive player and build the superstar squad and maybe able to stand to local league, but it's not work when fight on Champion League where must have mentally like Bayern and Madrid.

Psg have had bad experiences in the last matches.  They got a lot of results that they didn't want and the Bayern Match was very important to fix that.  In the first half they certainly seemed to have been wiped out on the field.  In the second half, they went very well after the goal.  They scored a goal with Mbappe, but the goal was canceled because Mendes was offside before the goal.  I can't criticize Psg too much because Bayern is a strong team.  They played well in the match, but did not win.  They have to win in the rematch.
I think PSG simply played worse than Bayern objectively. Even if Mbappe had scored, the game could have been a draw. But PSG will be much more difficult to play in their next match against Bayern. They need to beat Bayern 2-0 at least. I think Bayern looked much better yesterday. They should win their home game too.

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February 15, 2023, 07:52:34 AM
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I think PSG simply played worse than Bayern objectively. Even if Mbappe had scored, the game could have been a draw. But PSG will be much more difficult to play in their next match against Bayern. They need to beat Bayern 2-0 at least. I think Bayern looked much better yesterday. They should win their home game too.
Mbappe scored two goals, but both were offside. The first goal was clearly offside, but the second was very close. I found a picture, take a look. Earlier (1-2 Years ago) it would been a 1-1 and Paris would not be called losers in the media now. But Mpappe has to play at the beginning, he changes the whole game. Messi and Neymar didn't do that, even Messi shot over the goal shortly before the end. On 08.03. is the next match and I think Bayern will also win, they are simply too strong, even without Lewandoski.


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February 15, 2023, 07:59:34 AM
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I understand that the offside rule must be complied with and new technologies allow for greater rigor in the analysis of these situations.

But, I don't think anyone in the world, not even football players, will say that 3 centimeters in advance gives an advantage in a move. The offside rule was created when there was no technology to accurately assess this situation. So the offside had to be clear to human eyes, because that's the only way the player really has an advantage over the opponent.

In this case, the PSG player had no advantage because he was 3cm ahead of the Bayern player.

I think the rules should be adjusted based on the new technologies that exist.

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Second leg on on March 9 become opportunity for PSG come back after losing 1-0 and should win above two goals if want qualify to quarter final round. Actually losing one goal still not close yet chance for PSG can exist in Champion League but last looking on their performance very poor seems difficult for PSG qualify to next round.
I doubt PSG will beat Bayern Munich at home in the second leg because that is how PSG is always eliminated in the Champions League.
PSG always has fan support, but their performance in the Champions League, particularly against big teams, is very poor, and we know how difficult it is to defeat Bayern Munich at home because their fan crowd alone is enough to make the opponent nervous.


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Unbelievable with AC Milan performance last night although underperformance in domestic league but success won 1-0 against Tottenham Hotspur and becoming their capital against second leg, get draw have been enough for AC Milan settle for quarter final round and become great achievement after bad performance in domestic league.
AC Milan was extremely fortunate to score early on yesterday; the early goal greatly aided them, and the defenders were able to withstand the pressure from Tottenham's side; it was a good game, but it is far from over.

Tottenham still has a chance to eliminate AC Milan because they have played well and have a good winning record against AC Milan, particularly at home. As a result, if AC Milan visits Tottenham at home, I believe Tottenham will be able to win by more than two goals.

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February 15, 2023, 08:15:05 AM
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Psg have had bad experiences in the last matches.  They got a lot of results that they didn't want and the Bayern Match was very important to fix that.  In the first half they certainly seemed to have been wiped out on the field.  In the second half, they went very well after the goal.  They scored a goal with Mbappe, but the goal was canceled because Mendes was offside before the goal.  I can't criticize Psg too much because Bayern is a strong team.  They played well in the match, but did not win.  They have to win in the rematch.
my worries about PSG have come true. From this match we can see that Mbappe is really needed by PSG. even in the second half after Mbappe came on we could see PSG getting better. even the attacks launched by PSG can really endanger Bayern's goal. Even Mbappe scored 2 goals. although both goals were disallowed because they were already in an offside position. it is very unfortunate because Mbappe's condition has not fully recovered so that Mbappe only played in the second half.

And I really appreciate the PSG goalkeeper, Donnarumma. he made a lot of saves really well. But anyway this match took place with great excitement.

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February 15, 2023, 08:21:39 AM
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Second leg on on March 9 become opportunity for PSG come back after losing 1-0 and should win above two goals if want qualify to quarter final round. Actually losing one goal still not close yet chance for PSG can exist in Champion League but last looking on their performance very poor seems difficult for PSG qualify to next round.
Mbappe will be ready for a second leg since its start but it will be at Munich, not in Paris. With bad ability of PSG to play with pressure and high demand from their fans to make history for the club, will the succeed to beat Bayern in Munich? At least they must beat Bayern with one goal difference and wait for chance in two extra halfs and penalty shots.

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Unbelievable with AC Milan performance last night although underperformance in domestic league but success won 1-0 against Tottenham Hotspur and becoming their capital against second leg, get draw have been enough for AC Milan settle for quarter final round and become great achievement after bad performance in domestic league.
I did not believe too much in AC Milan but their Champions League DNA has its voice again. Tottenham did create opportunities but they did not score any goal and will have to come home, prepare for a host against AC Milan with similar task like PSG but they will play a second leg match at home. Tottenham had a better performance than PSG and they surely can beat AC Milan at home.

Son Heung Min did not have a good match and I think he already lost his best career time. This season can be a start of his down side after he reached to his career top.

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