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November 17, 2022, 02:44:31 PM
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How do you propose to cheat actually? You are entering with bitcointalk name and you are sending screenshot of your ticket. Every ticket in Sportsbet has ID and we can always ask Sportsbet to verify everything. Is it really worth giving us some extra work when you can't profit from it in the end? Plus your account gets tagged by couple of DT1 and DT2 memebers and maybe even some further consequences on Sportsbet account?

I simply don't see feasible attack vector here.

Just be normal guys and play fun game, no need to overthink everything. We can also make it in a way that you have to sign every messege from BTC addy, and use that same BTC addy to deposit on Sportsbet. But I don't want to screw good people just because some idiot may cheat. Let him try, we will deal with it as harsh as possible and adapt the rules for the future.

Hey guys, play responsibly, this is all for fun to keep the world cup spirit alive. I know most of the elite members will not cheat and will try to be smart, but to the new guys who got a slot, please see this as a game after you have nothing to lose it's a free entry competition and we don't want the cro2 team to start working their asses off for something we could easily avoid by simply applying the spirit of sportsmanship. You were kicked out, you won the group, come to the thread, talk and laugh, that's all.

please we do not need to sign messages or verify our bitcoin addresses because the some of us will be depositing and staking with other networks and coins. Do not be concerned; those who wish to be over-wise will be dealt with. No tags

My only target is to beat Buwaytress as usual and maybe try to beat Harkorede this one time.( to proceed more than them.) Grin

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November 17, 2022, 04:37:23 PM
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I'm ready! Concentrated, balanced diet, etc. 

On the other hand, Group H:
Portugal: VD309
Ghana:NoTblox 1
Uruguay:Rohang
Korea:fM

In short, an Argentina Vs Korea Final is feasible, I hope the Argentines can achieve it.  Smiley




I would like to add my commentary, in a very football  tone, (where I am from, the world soccer championships are lived as if we were the venue every 4 years) maybe for that very reason.


We are going to color my answer as if it were part of FiFA (fiction), that is, this answer in a personal capacity and does not correspond to anyone else's position, if not mine, that is, having said that, IMHO.

Hey! EarnOnVictor but fair play always.

By the way, although I see your activity, I would not think a priori that you are a new account.

So...
...//...::

First of all, the rules are there in the OP, and they are the ones that govern, there is no other option, I think you did not read them.

The general summary of all the rules can be found in this thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5419096.msg61222514#msg61222514

I was initially excited to see this competition that is targeted towards the world cup because it's a new challenge for the BTT members, but I don't like his arrangement. ....//...,,,
Smiley
Joseph Battler, is not the president of FiFa, fortunately for football, things have changed. 

....//...,,, I don't think others view it the way I do, it's not a competition that advocates evenness and access for all intending participants at the same time. This could accommodate only 32 participants per round, what about the many more people that are interested from the beginning? I believe they should not be disenfranchised too.

More of the same, you have to read the rules, they are there to be fair to the extent of their reach, since someone will always feel disagreements, if you feel them, read the rules.

In any case:
I think that Fifa never believed that it would have more countries in its organization than countries in the UN, what happened here (OP), in fact they were left out of these 32 countries, I mean users, people like Italy, I mean entebah o Colombia, sorry I meant webtricks, it's hard to see Italy and Colombia Outside of the WC, always in the minds of World Cup fans.

BUT, the repechage system that Fifa has, this active here, there are possibilities, although let's be honest, very remote, that they will enter.

There is a reserve list that you can see in this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5419096.msg61294929#msg61294929

In which you do not appear and that if you wanted so badly you should at least be there, please! if two great teams like Colombia and Italy with a track record are doing it, what should a new country that is starting or wants to enter the most important event in the world do?

....//...::
I quite understand your point and on second thought it's a very good reason. I hope for a similar competition in the future.

Okay! There are actually 2 additional events, one paid, and one with free admission. And it is good to point out that I mentioned only 2, which are those related to this casino in relation to the WC and to the forum, but if you search you will find more things...

Both with requirements also to meet.

 I suppose you know, to qualify for the soccer world cup there are confederations, which are represented in the individuality of each user according to the country where they come from here in the forum, This is a multicultural forum, we come from different countries like Fifa, anyway...

There are threads called "Pool discussion" like this one, in a certain way particular, that sometimes given the few participants they don't stay at the top and consequently one could miss them, to me it happened, seriously, over time I realized that there were pools from several important leagues, there is even F1 and even cricket, etc.

I am going to give you a link, of all the pools that exist in relation to Football, perhaps I could miss some, if so, just let me know and I will include it, I hope to read your ideas, forecasts, analysis or whatever it is that it contributes to get the exact result of a game, guessing the winner is easy  Wink

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November 17, 2022, 05:01:01 PM
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Don't know if this has been asked before or maybe this question will look stupid, but I'd like to be clear, my question is:
1. Each participant will answer the question according to the schedule of the match where will their group play in the WC? For example, I am in group F, I will only answer questions when the 4 National teams in that group compete
2. Questions will only be about the National team from the group where I am?
That seems like interesting take but we decided to simplify it a bit. There will be 10 questions in total, they can be related to any particular game in that match day, all 32 participants will have same 10 questions and everyone has to submit answers until the same deadline.

If we had separate questions for the groups then we would have to try to choose players from each country in WC to make it super interesting but that would be a logistics nightmare and many forum users would be left out while some countries wouldn't have a representative.

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November 17, 2022, 09:32:34 PM
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Well as a discussion thread, i come with news for all the people, i hope to bring Argentinian information, because im Argentinian and have the info more closely Tongue.

The news of today, in this moment Argentina team change his list of players.

Nicolas Gonzales (Fiorentina) its out of WC and for him enter Angel Correa (ATM).
and the second occured a few minutes ago.

Joaquin Correa (Inter) who play yesterday against EUA  and score a goal , its also out, Thiago Almada (Atlanta united) takes his place.

This two change its because "injurys" i put between "" because are more likely inconvenience than injuries, as you can see Correa has played yesterday. But Scaloni wants the players at 100%.

And we can expect more change stay tuned.

News by darbit your trusted resource of info....... Tongue


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November 18, 2022, 07:21:41 AM
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Don't know if this has been asked before or maybe this question will look stupid, but I'd like to be clear, my question is:
1. Each participant will answer the question according to the schedule of the match where will their group play in the WC? For example, I am in group F, I will only answer questions when the 4 National teams in that group compete
2. Questions will only be about the National team from the group where I am?

You will answer all questions, 10 in total. The questions will be the same for all players and will include the games from all the groups.
All answers need to be submitted before the start of the 1st game of the current round, in this case before the opening game of the WC.

We will send the form today - so you'll have enough time for any questions.

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November 18, 2022, 09:56:38 AM
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I'm angry at myself at this point. How did I missed this ? It was a perfect chance for me to enter as I'm sure this World Cup will be full of surprises and favorites teams will most likely go home first so it is a great chance to pick underdogs in this World Cup. Anyway, I'll be watching you guys compete and wish you all good luck and my bet for this WC is France won't make it past groups ....insane I know... . Cheesy

One less French supporter, but I'm with you, betting some money on underdogs early, I would even go for handicaps once we reach KO rounds. France won't make it past groups? Who takes their place... Australia? haha

My only target is to beat Buwaytress as usual and maybe try to beat Harkorede this one time.( to proceed more than them.) Grin

It's good to set your expectations so low by making me the guy to beat... I'm honoured Wink

I'm playing different strategies in pool, bracket, and the quiz format:
- pool: don't pick draws until KO
- bracket: underdog until SF
- quiz: no strategy, use brains properly I guess? haha


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November 18, 2022, 11:09:56 AM
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I'm angry at myself at this point. How did I missed this ? It was a perfect chance for me to enter as I'm sure this World Cup will be full of surprises and favorites teams will most likely go home first so it is a great chance to pick underdogs in this World Cup. Anyway, I'll be watching you guys compete and wish you all good luck and my bet for this WC is France won't make it past groups ....insane I know... . Cheesy

One less French supporter, but I'm with you, betting some money on underdogs early, I would even go for handicaps once we reach KO rounds. France won't make it past groups? Who takes their place... Australia? haha
The French team is nothing without Kante and Pogba; the team has been struggling without these two players for some time now, and they are unlikely to advance beyond the group stage. You should keep an eye on Denmark because I believe they will make it at least to the semi-finals.

My only target is to beat Buwaytress as usual and maybe try to beat Harkorede this one time.( to proceed more than them.) Grin

It's good to set your expectations so low by making me the guy to beat... I'm honoured Wink
You are the minimum point mark anyways, making sure you are always behind my username   Grin. This is the only way I don't get bored.

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November 18, 2022, 12:07:41 PM
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Hey to all,

the questions for the 1st round are here!

We will close submissions before the 1st game starts.
There is no editing so choose your answers carefully Smiley

We will send a link to the spreadsheet for transparency reasons once the submissions are closed.

We invite the reserve players to participate as well, if the player does not participate a reserve player who did will fill in his place.

Good luck and enjoy!

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November 18, 2022, 12:20:03 PM
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We invite the reserve players to participate as well, if the player does not participate a reserve player who did will fill in his place.
I would just add that reserve players do not need to submit their ticket at this time but they may if they have it since it will be easier for them and us that way. Only reserve players that fill the form will be taken into consideration.

We will share the spreadsheet at the moment first match starts, anybody who did not submit their answers or ticket is out and we will fill their place with reserve player. At that moment reserve players that did not submit their ticket will have 24hours to do so.

Hope this has now covered everything.

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November 18, 2022, 02:12:00 PM
 #130

9. Will Neymar score or assist in the game vs Saudi Arabia?

This must be for sure against serbia
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November 18, 2022, 02:23:49 PM
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Yeah Brazil is against Serbia first round. Question should be vs Serbia. And we have time to fill form untill first Katar game start right?
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9. Will Neymar score or assist in the game vs Saudi Arabia?

Hard to score or assist in a game you won't even play
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November 18, 2022, 03:50:11 PM
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Good luck to all of us playing Smiley I just hope that the ID I provided is good because I haven't used Sportsbet before.

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November 18, 2022, 04:23:35 PM
 #134

9. Will Neymar score or assist in the game vs Saudi Arabia?

This must be for sure against serbia

Oops, sorry about that. Of course, it is against Serbia.
Both of us checked the form but somehow it slipped through.

I have corrected the mistake now.

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I have submitted my answers! good luck guys! This will be fun  Grin
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Hey to all,

the questions for the 1st round are here!

We will close submissions before the 1st game starts.
There is no editing so choose your answers carefully Smiley

We will send a link to the spreadsheet for transparency reasons once the submissions are closed.

We invite the reserve players to participate as well, if the player does not participate a reserve player who did will fill in his place.

Good luck and enjoy!
Thank you!

I would appreciate it VERY if in the future you would publish usernames along with the link to the google form (so that the participants would be notified).

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November 18, 2022, 06:36:03 PM
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And maybe not greatest example, but you probably don't complain when spots of signature campaign got filled before your application.
What has a signature campaign has to do with a competition for the forum members? I expressed that people should be given a level-playing ground and time and that the competition should be accessible to everyone. Do you think everyone reads everything on the forum at all times? It takes time, so why must they be disenfranchised? Well, one of the organizers has already replied kindly, so no issues.

I'm sorry if you missed the point. LTU_btc was attempting to demonstrate, but his right if you consider his example: a campaign manager sets a number he wants and selects those he only wants to work with, and when all slots are filled up, no one complains. But, to be clear, the competition was open to all and was intended for only 32 players because we are using the official FIFA numbers of teams participating in this year's World Cup, and because it is a free entry, I'm not surprised we had so many new members wanting to join, but those of us who are already on the sportsbet paid pool and those who have been playing for years were given a preference.

Having said that, you are still welcome to apply for a reserve seat in the event that a few members do not show up. Other pools are still open for a few bitcoin fees to join. Tbh, everyone was treated fairly. Wink
Thank you for this, I quite understand. I was only thinking that a certain competing condition should have been given to all in order to choose the qualified 32. As much as I would like to hands up for the view of many people that have contributed their opinions in this regard, I still believe that it should not be a matter of first-come-first-serve. It should not be based only on our status on the forum, but also on short quizzes/exams which should have been opened for all over a specific time. This should have been the basis on which the selection of the 32 and reserves be based. That's my opinion though, just trying to figure out a way that a level-playing ground would be observed.

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November 18, 2022, 06:59:11 PM
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This should have been the basis on which the selection of the 32 and reserves be based. That's my opinion though, just trying to figure out a way that a level-playing ground would be observed.
When you have 3k$ surplus and you want to organize a competition feel free to contact me, then you will be our client and we will work per your preferences. This competition is intended to bring together all the people in forum that are playing paid pools sponsored by Sportsbet and people from clubhouse chat on Sportsbet page. I am quite active on both and I have never seen you in either. This competition is purposely made for just 32 participants but I am running a couple of pools/leagues which aren't and I don't see you there as well.

For instance I am very sorry that we have guys like Webtricks or Lolojones on reserve list since they fill those categories and I would very much like to see them get in.

I would appreciate it VERY if in the future you would publish usernames along with the link to the google form (so that the participants would be notified).
Done in other thread, maybe it helped someone Smiley Thanks for the idea.

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November 18, 2022, 07:15:14 PM
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I still believe that it should not be a matter of first-come-first-serve. It should not be based only on our status on the forum, but also on short quizzes/exams which should have been opened for all over a specific time. This should have been the basis on which the selection of the 32 and reserves be based. That's my opinion though, just trying to figure out a way that a level-playing ground would be observed.
You can never satisfy everyone in life mate, and there is nothing wrong with a company prioritizing their regular participants of previous pools, as I previously stated, you are free to join other open pools if you are truly passionate about the game.

If you read the OP, you'd realize that the 0.002 btc paid pool is less expensive Grin

I wish you the best of luck the next time.

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November 18, 2022, 07:17:35 PM
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Locked my answers and looking to be top of my group  Grin Grin Good luck
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