⚽⚽⚽ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk World Cup 2022 - discussion ⚽⚽⚽

[Harkorede]

Still going to enjoy watching this thread. Definitely looks like Bitcointalk natives are having a strong showing! My prediction (and no offense guys haha):

harkorede v woodie
slaman29 v itlongrun
ralle14 v kanapka
cls63 v casperbgd

then, it'll be a Harkorede v CLS63 final, with Harko taking it all.

Feel free to share winnings with me for my 100% accurate prediction

I'll take the well wish in good faith and I can only it happens, yes, but easier said than done, as I still don't have a definitive answer to any of these question yet and the fact that it's QFs makes every choice making decision tougher, but then, que sera sera.

Good luck to every other participants, and may the best "Snows" as per Game of Thrones goes through, and the best of them win!

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[casperBGD]

entered picks for this round, pretty serious questions for QF

good luck to all participants, except for Brasil, there is no major favorite in other matches, and some surprises could happen
all in all, two days without football filled batteries, and now we can get back to some action

[CLS63]

We are having difficulties in believing as a team that we are in the quarter finals now. Even though competing against CasperBgd who is one of the biggest favourites of the tournament is decreasing our chance, we are going to do our best. We have managed to get past dittoup in the group stage and Ktchampions by a tiebreak in last 16 stage. I hope we can maintain this fairytale. But we need to accept that our job is very difficult.

Frankly, I hope we can see this kind of organizations continuing. I think the Champions League is a nice field for this. We can collect some money and create an organization like a pool next year.

[famososMuertos]

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His disallowed goal happens because is out of timing... yes, but forget all the technical part, this is the World Cup, I liked seeing Garrett Bayle in a World Cup regardless of his performance, you get the point.

That analysis that you do, btw with which I agree, fits 99% of the players, but CR7 is in that 1%, now, in the case the classic saying "games are lost by the coaches and won by the players" ( adage that you surely know) in this case, old Zorro (technician) he won it.

Mr. Fernando Costas, "you unleashed the beast at the right moment and it worked"...

In any case, as I mentioned, he is a prominent player (his personality sucks, it's true, but I leave that to the coaches and his teammates) but in any case, my context in the post or in this thread interested me because It was my advantage to go to the second round, if I didn't score I had at least the assist on goal.

You heard the stadium when CR7 went in to play, I repeat, I'm not saying that I don't agree with your analysis, but there is another side of the coin and it is the one I mentioned. In fact, I even bet anyone that with how "sick" he is, maybe we will see him in another world cup +.

Hey!! I didn't care if Portugal won, to be honest, I'm going to Argentina, Brazil in that order. BUT! the final in Hollywood style would be "Messi vs. CR7*" and it will surely start*.  

I don't have a song for you...!  

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What a shit new for a few that Ronaldo doesnt start the game.
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And well!... my friend, but it is that if you did not even pass the round...so!   /  

[ralle14]

My prediction (and no offense guys haha):

I hope your prediction comes true since I wasn't expecting to make it this far so a 4th-3rd place finish is already a big win for me.

yes, but easier said than done, as I still don't have a definitive answer to any of these question yet and the fact that it's QFs makes every choice making decision tougher, but then, que sera sera.

I agree I still have a bunch of questions left unanswered since there are choices that will make you question your pick if it's the correct one or not.  

[slaman29]

Maybe a more complicated but research-based question would be on is like "How will a team start a game, sit back and try to counter on first half?" or "How will a team react after scoring, or letting in a goal?" or "except injury, what will the first substitution be, defence for offence, offence for defence, or no change"? but even so, teams can play differently depending on coach and then it's luck all over again.

Those are nice questions if you are playing with your mates for fun. But in competition like this you have to have official site backing the answers or something that isn't subjective. For instance who will hit the post first is legit since there can be no doubt but the question you proposed could easily have two different answers for two people watching the game.

When you ask about substitutions what would you base your grading? In this world cup in particular if 2 subs are made they are often exchanged. For instance attacker comes for defender and then defender for attacker. Both are done in the same window. Would you say that correct answer is "attacker for defender" since that is how it is written or would you go with what actually happened - 2 fresh players brought on for the same positions. We need to cover every possible outcome of every question in verifiable way, not that easy, trust me 

100++ I trust you for sure!

I forgot that later there will be people asking for proof of the answers and the only way to show it is replay, and maybe you're right, subjective (but I think counterattacks these days are stats that are collected, but agree hard to find a statistics site that shows it match by match event and with timing). FIFA for sure collects stas per 10 minutes I think, problem is they are not public or I don't find it.

Substitutions is easy to clarify though... make it clear with the rules that for purpose of the question, substitution counts what the coach issue to the official. Defender for attacker, attacker for defender just to follow what is verifiable (even in your scenario) as all sites will show who was substituted for who.

For example, some questions we have already have to make some adjustments for example there was a question about "forwards" or "defence" but if coach plays forward/defender in midfield or technically in 5-2-2-1 formation we still should count the official forward as he is "labeled" right? Or if Van Dijk plays as striker, like Netherlands did cheekily in Nations League, he is still considered a defender, right?

So of course the more complicated the question, the more we have to specify the rules but I think that's understandable for all players so far. Also, all judges decision is final if you guys decided on something I didn't agree, I would accept it for sure since that should be the rule of the event.

[cryptofrka]

The thing is that however you spin the questions, eventually it al comes down to luck.
If the teams are close and the question is possession based, if 1 ream scores early they will give possession to the other team.

The same as counterattacking - the team that will counterattack is the team that is already leading.

In sport luck is a huge element, we saw it already in this competition with some crazy upsets against the run of play. We can't avoid it in questions, but we do feel that the questions give a better opportunity to test that luck to the players that do follow the WC a bit more.

We can introduce questions like 'who's going to be Man of the Match', but the answer to that is really hard and basically nobody would win a point in most situations.

[buwaytress]

Frankly, I hope we can see this kind of organizations continuing. I think the Champions League is a nice field for this. We can collect some money and create an organization like a pool next year.

Definitely would like to do something similar for UCL too, it was hard enough getting participants for pool, but now we already have proof that people are willing to play a format like this, will be cool to see what else we can come up with. Credit to Cro2 for putting this out to test (and see it work successfully!).

My prediction (and no offense guys haha):

I hope your prediction comes true since I wasn't expecting to make it this far so a 4th-3rd place finish is already a big win for me.

Then there is no more pressure and expectation haha. Dream big, force your luck, as Trofo would say. You're already in a great position now, enjoy it and GL!

The thing is that however you spin the questions, eventually it al comes down to luck.
If the teams are close and the question is possession based, if 1 ream scores early they will give possession to the other team.

The same as counterattacking - the team that will counterattack is the team that is already leading.

Yeah, I would say, the people who don't know football at all will suffer from terrible luck (picking the most ridiculous answers all the time) and if you just follow the tournament, you'll at least put yourself on equal luck footing with everyone else.

Going to be hard to top the format you guys did

[casperBGD]

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Going to be hard to top the format you guys did

this is for sure, interesting questions, good knowledge, but luck is really important in competitions like this one
kudos to Cro2, and good luck today against Brasil, maybe Tite dance will not age well

Portugal team question was tricky on this form, had to count several times did I put 11 players, since they cannot be accommodated on one liner in google form

[Harkorede]

Submitted my picks already, earlier today; and I also just completed my team in the Fifa fantasy as well, while in SuperBRU, I left my pick unchanged from the initial 2-0 win in favor of the Samba boys, I really can't but feel awkward towards Cro2 team because all the my picks are extremely against the Croatian team.

Good luck guys!

[darxiaomi]

NEWS:

Cro2 team are going to no connect until Tuesday, they are going to celebrate so much. Thanks for your time

Jokes asides, congratulations guys to this qualification, really impressive performance, nobody cant belive this. And i have to say i think Croatia its one of the most best performance teams in history of the World cup.

Semi finals in 98
Final in 18
And now another semis with a lot of chances to keep progresing.

I hope we can fight for that spot in the final .

[casperBGD]

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I hope we can fight for that spot in the final .

it seems that you are positioned to play against Croatia in SF

congrats to Cro2, game was more/less expected to be like this, Brasil attack was good, but Livakovic continued his play from penalty series with Japan
after Brasil scored, did not expected Croatia to be back, but they earned penalties, and that is obviously their terrain, "Kings of Drama"

[buwaytress]

Maan that Netherlands goal haha. First time in a long time I saw that kind of freekick, man lying down didn't prevent it, and Weghorst saves his country again.

Penalty kicks again, if that happens I am so not watching haha. Messi better put this game to bed.

Netherlands Croatia? What?

[Igebotz]

Maan that Netherlands goal haha. First time in a long time I saw that kind of freekick, man lying down didn't prevent it, and Weghorst saves his country again.

Penalty kicks again, if that happens I am so not watching haha. Messi better put this game to bed.

Netherlands Croatia? What?

I'm not going to watch that nonsense, how Argentina blew a 2-0 lead in less than 40 minutes; I'm just going to wait for the final result, Netherland had zero shots on goal the entire first half. I told someone that this world cup would be one of the best ever, and we are already seeing evidence of that. More surprises are on the way.

edit; oh my GOD it's finally coming home.  I'm sure trofo wanted Netherlands, sorry mate but you have to face the GOAT

[boltz]

I have no power in my voice anymore as this game was insane to watch! This was the best game so far in this World Cup and most likely the 2nd game of Netherlands will go down in history as one of the greatest goals in a clutch moment and we will remember it forever. Then , Argentina , with morale being down , they had the power to fight in Extra time with almost scoring with Enzo so that's a big value from this team as Netherlands couldn't pressure anymore.

This is also a great World Cup to watch the battle of goalkeepers.

[Trofo]

edit; oh my GOD it's finally coming home.  I'm sure trofo wanted Netherlands, sorry mate but you have to face the GOAT

We faced the GOAT in last World Cup and we won 3:0 so I am not that afraid of them  They should be afraid of us. That match brought me so much money that I will never forget it. I had Croatia to win, Croatia to cover -1.5 handicap, Croatia to win and over 2.5 goals. All three passed and I was watching the game with some business partners from Denmark in a beautiful cafe by the sea.

[darxiaomi]

MANNNNN what can i say... i think i lose 50 kg sweating.

We are having so much bad luck, in all the matches, all the teams doesnt shoot in our goal in the whole game, but when they shoot the ball always goes in.

Against Australia was worst, the only shoot its going to the grades, but in one deflection goes in, and make suffer unnecesary.
In this games the same, was a boring one, but Argentina have the game in our hands, and in one shoot all goes to the trash, the second goal was magnificent play, but again gol.

In the extra time also Argentina deserves to win, but again cant.

After the match i dont know if you can see because was only broadcasted by a national transmision, but Messi was really angry, and he call someone "Asshole what do you look?" I dont know who but was the first time i see him so angry, also he talk shit ab out the referee and Van gal, he says something like.
"He say he plays good but he only play long balls".

[Harkorede]

That was game to watch, both Quarter final fixtures of today are absolutely breath taking, and that's probably understated too! I wouldn't have been able to watch either match as a compatriot of either of the 4 countries, watching as a Messi fan coming into this world cup is a tough torture already, but as neutrals these matches are well worth any expenses that it would have cost to get into on of those stadium atmosphere too! Crazy matches!!

edit; oh my GOD it's finally coming home.  I'm sure trofo wanted Netherlands, sorry mate but you have to face the GOAT

We faced the GOAT in last World Cup and we won 3:0 so I am not that afraid of them  They should be afraid of us. That match brought me so much money that I will never forget it. I had Croatia to win, Croatia to cover -1.5 handicap, Croatia to win and over 2.5 goals. All three passed and I was watching the game with some business partners from Denmark in a beautiful cafe by the sea.

I can hope Argentina have learnt their lessons from that game in 4 years ago, and don't allow history to repeat itself...

I would have loved to see Brazil vs Argentina for the Semi-finals, but that'd be just for the spectating value, however, I don't think the encounter between Croatia and Argentina would be a boring one, given what we saw from both sides today.

[Igebotz]

edit; oh my GOD it's finally coming home.  I'm sure trofo wanted Netherlands, sorry mate but you have to face the GOAT

We faced the GOAT in last World Cup and we won 3:0 so I am not that afraid of them  They should be afraid of us. That match brought me so much money that I will never forget it. I had Croatia to win, Croatia to cover -1.5 handicap, Croatia to win and over 2.5 goals. All three passed and I was watching the game with some business partners from Denmark in a beautiful cafe by the sea.

Croatia's luck will eventually run out; I've always been on their side, but this time I'll be on the other end. The Goat looks like he'll never stop scoring, and the Martinez guy is willing to put his life on the line to ensure Missi wins.

I would have loved to see Brazil vs Argentina for the Semi-finals, but that'd be just for the spectating value, however, I don't think the encounter between Croatia and Argentina would be a boring one, given what we saw from both sides today.

The Brazilians were carried away by the media for being good dancers, and I noticed that they all wore yellow hair today. What a pity.

France and Portugal will leave tomorrow.

[ralle14]

It looks like we could have a lot of AET results this time since most of us nearly have the exact predictions between several questions.

I think i'm likely going to be eliminated as i'm a point behind but I hope we go through the tiebreaker question though