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December 03, 2022, 01:09:20 PM
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For example even the first question, maybe we can try to write as "who will be play as a sub" so it is clearer than "will enter the game from the bench for Netherlands." is slightly unclear.
English is obviously not our first language as well but I really don't see how anybody who understands English and watches football on regular basis can have a problem with sentence like "will enter the game from the bench for Netherlands."
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I think that all questions are properly asked, and could be answered without a doubt

what bothers me is the deadline and first question? not sure how many answers did you get so far, but deadline is before match starts, and line-ups will be announced hour earlier, which would give main advantage to people the wait for deadline?
is this an omission, or you gave advantage to users that know fact about line-ups announced hour earlier, which should be fair, since knowledge is obviously power Smiley

or deadline is not before match starts, then hour before that?

The deadline is tomorrow before the 1st games. You can of course post the answers later, but you will lose points for all the games that have started.
Deadline is when first match kicks off, we are aware of that "problem" and if we caught it on time we would have asked different question for first game.

Simply not enough time to double check everything and we did not consider it as a big problem. That is just one out of 10 points and not a game changer. And as you have put it, it also requires some knowledge to make use of our lapse. We would avoid stuff like that in future just cause there maybe are some people from different time zones which could have problems submitting when line ups are known.

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December 03, 2022, 02:11:17 PM
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Thank you Cro2 for all the effort.

@slaman29 I believe almost all participants here don't have English as a first language (I'm trying really hard to think but I can't recognise anyone in the list who speaks English natively!) but I can almost guarantee that being on this forum and actually engaging with the language helps everyone in the long run. It is a fair point you brought up, though, if the idea was to attract absolute newcomers -- but as Cro2's pointed out (and in other conversation threads), the event was aimed for the most active forum users and football enthusiasts, so the terminology's not at all foreign to anyone who bets regularly on football.

For example, you see the cricket threads? I speak English well but I can't figure out 90% of the terms in cricket. But I'd bet there are even fewer native English speakers in those threads. But they know the game and all those cricket lingo which is mumbo jumbo to me, it's not for them. If they organised an event like this, I wouldn't participate, and fairplay, I shouldn't Wink

On the format itself, I think this is already much more engaging that anything else -- I can imagine other even more fun formats but time-sensitivity does create a problem with a global participant base.

what bothers me is the deadline and first question? not sure how many answers did you get so far, but deadline is before match starts, and line-ups will be announced hour earlier, which would give main advantage to people the wait for deadline?

I entered my picks last night, without waiting to see lineups or injuries or whatever for Netherlands. Was I at a disadvantage? I don't think so, because I believe in myself hahaha

Good luck @Woodie ! May the best bastard win.

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December 03, 2022, 04:09:06 PM
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I entered my picks last night, without waiting to see lineups or injuries or whatever for Netherlands.
I have good news for you, no injuries reported for team Netherlands but are you already conceding even before results are in Huh

Was I at a disadvantage? I don't think so, because I believe in myself hahaha
Disadvantage maybe but because no injuries were reported we all have equal chances to the game...so you are pretty much in it.

Good luck @Woodie ! May the best bastard win.

Hahah I definitely need all the luck I can get but good luck to you too.

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December 03, 2022, 07:00:11 PM
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Congratulations to all the participants!
We have reached the end of the group stage and we have the group winners and the knockout pairs:

Once again thank you all for playing, and good luck to those remaining in the contest!

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And sadly, after making so much hype about myself going into the competition, I was knocked out, and for the first time, this lucky bastard buywatress got his way, and Harkorede as uasul kept getting lucky, but wait for me nigga, I promise you I'll beat your ass in the UCL prediction pool.  Grin BTW, congrats guys, you did an amazing job, especially with the MD3 questions.


I'm feeling like the German right now; I got hyped up before the game, was assigned to one of the easier groups, and was knocked out on the MD3. All of my favorite teams are almost gone, leaving only Argentina and Senegal.


Political aside, this has been one of the best world cup tournaments since the 1998, 2006, and 2010 world cups, with so much unpredictability, excitement, upsets, suspense, and so much more going on, and everyone is either upset or happy, big teams being on their toes for 90 minutes, don't let the EU/AU media tell you otherwise. This is only the beginning of what could be the best World Cup ever.



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December 03, 2022, 07:06:19 PM
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Trofo or cryptofrka, could you enable us to select the cells in the spreadsheet with the results? On mobile I can't see most of the answers because I they are too long. If it's too much of a hassle then don't. But it would be great if you could do this. I can't see when I answered that Australia will concede a goal on mobile Smiley

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December 03, 2022, 07:19:21 PM
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-snip
Deadline is when first match kicks off, we are aware of that "problem" and if we caught it on time we would have asked different question for first game.


talked too much about line-ups, overthought it, and missed point on this match, as most other participants

Netherlands let USA get the ball, but they were quick to score when they get that ball, efficiency over passing

now to Argentina, still without goals, not that much to see so far
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December 03, 2022, 07:54:56 PM
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Trofo or cryptofrka, could you enable us to select the cells in the spreadsheet with the results? On mobile I can't see most of the answers because I they are too long. If it's too much of a hassle then don't. But it would be great if you could do this. I can't see when I answered that Australia will concede a goal on mobile Smiley

You chose poorly Grin

If you tell me how to do it I will, I never used Google Sheets on mobile.
From what I saw, I can only share to you as viewers, commenters or editors, and from these 3 options the only possible one is the one you've got now - viewer.

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December 03, 2022, 09:33:53 PM
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So all of you that are still in the competition, congratulations you are in the money and you have a guaranteed prize of 1.2 mBTC. All the rewards will be paid out in one transaction when we have a grand winner but nothing stopping us to collect your BTC addresses on time. Send me your BTC addy via pm or telegram so that we don't clutter the thread. I opted to ask you guys now since some of you that loose matches will probably drift off and loose a bit of interest. We will have a rewards page in spreadsheet and your job is to double check your address there after you have your final rank. Thanks

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Ok ok I get it, lol everyone agrees there is nothing wrong with the format, and English I agree, you must learn it to succeed in this life. I forced myself to do the same even on this forum! In the future it will be Chinese but we will all be dead.

Anyway I was just trying to give a comment and thinking of others but if the goal is to reward elite bitcointalk/Sportsbet users then there is nothing to change.

Back to the quiz itself, this was so tough, I am glad I got 1 right, happy to see many got both wrong but a few guys got 2/2 so far, what a great start for them.

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December 04, 2022, 10:41:54 AM
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@Trofo @casperBGD @buwaytress

Ok ok I get it, lol everyone agrees there is nothing wrong with the format, and English I agree, you must learn it to succeed in this life. I forced myself to do the same even on this forum! In the future it will be Chinese but we will all be dead.

Anyway I was just trying to give a comment and thinking of others but if the goal is to reward elite bitcointalk/Sportsbet users then there is nothing to change.

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do not get me wrong, I do not think that someone here is forum elite, or everywhere for the matter (not sure how do you qualify elite, but I am striving to horizontal organizations whenever possible, without much elite and hierarchy)

but, as I said, IMO, all questions are properly worded to be easy to understand, and could be answered without a doubt (with all said, I missee both answers, so maybe I understood it wrong Smiley )

and it is a good advice to improve English, I am trying to do that daily Smiley, not sure about Chinese dominance in the future, but maybe you have a point there
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Back to the quiz itself, this was so tough, I am glad I got 1 right, happy to see many got both wrong but a few guys got 2/2 so far, what a great start for them.

What most every other users scores now doesn't actually affect you or your chances, for now the only results that matters is just between you and your opponent.

My opponent LTU_btc, also had the both set of the first two questions wrong and as did I, but we've got a couple of different opinions about a lot of other upcoming questions and the most crazy thing is that we actually have just a minute difference between our tie breaker answers, so it's going to be a really close and unpredictable one.

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Back to the quiz itself, this was so tough, I am glad I got 1 right, happy to see many got both wrong but a few guys got 2/2 so far, what a great start for them.

What most every other users scores now doesn't actually affect you or your chances, for now the only results that matters is just between you and your opponent.

My opponent LTU_btc, also had the both set of the first two questions wrong and as did I, but we've got a couple of different opinions about a lot of other upcoming questions and the most crazy thing is that we actually have just a minute difference between our tie breaker answers, so it's going to be a really close and unpredictable one.

This reminded me to check how I stand versus my opponent inthelongrun and he already has a head start. He answered the second question about Australia conceding a goal correct and I got both of them wrong. We will see how today goes. I hope I get both a swers correct as we both answered differently (even the England domination question which is 50-50). I guess after today he will be two or three points in front of me or I'll take over the lead. May the best (or luckiest) man win!

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December 04, 2022, 02:16:37 PM
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Damn you, Woodie, 2/2 right, and already 2 points ahead of me. I'm going to need our different answers to all go my way now, but I have to say you're in a strong position. Quarterfinal bastard-elect.

Now not sure my pick for England trio to have shot on target will hit, suddenly not even sure England will not grind out for penalties. Anyway.

Didn't watch Argentina but on livescores saw Messis scored with the sole shot on target by HT. Pretty much sums up his role, doesn't it?

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December 04, 2022, 04:59:35 PM
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what a show with last second penalty for Poland, we had VAR review and penalty repeat, and Lewandowski scored in the end

and all of that did not matter at all, since France was up 3:0, but Lloris ended without clean-sheet, to ruin my Sorare chances
goals so far, 11 in three matches, more than expected, all matches o2.5
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December 04, 2022, 05:47:58 PM
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Oh man... I missed the France defense question by one player... Now all I jeed is England strikers to each have at least one shot on target to be equal to inthelongrun. If I miss that, he'll be up two points and I'm not sure I'll manage to beat that.

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December 04, 2022, 08:39:38 PM
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Oh man... I missed the France defense question by one player... Now all I jeed is England strikers to each have at least one shot on target to be equal to inthelongrun. If I miss that, he'll be up two points and I'm not sure I'll manage to beat that.

if I did not missed anything, all forwards are out, and Foden made two assists, but no shot on target (Saka and Kane scored), so answer is no
England had trouble to score first one, but after that Senegal is really down

will be a great one between France and England in QF, both teams seem really prepared for WC (cannot explain how Hungarians smashed England half year ago)
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Oh man... I missed the France defense question by one player... Now all I jeed is England strikers to each have at least one shot on target to be equal to inthelongrun. If I miss that, he'll be up two points and I'm not sure I'll manage to beat that.

if I did not missed anything, all forwards are out, and Foden made two assists, but no shot on target (Saka and Kane scored), so answer is no
England had trouble to score first one, but after that Senegal is really down

will be a great one between France and England in QF, both teams seem really prepared for WC (cannot explain how Hungarians smashed England half year ago)
You are correct, table is already updated and it seems that there is a lot of close pairings here and I expect we will need a tie breaker or two to settle all the games. Did not watch most of the games today since I had some obligations but from what i have seen, favorites really did not leave anything to chance.

Seems nobody wants the rewards since I only got a couple of PMs with BTC addresses so far, I know there is still a lot of time but better to take care of it sooner than later.

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December 04, 2022, 10:06:16 PM
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England's game gave me some real scare after Harry Kane got his first goal of the tournament, I was so sure it was among the questions and got quiz sick not to check on the spreadsheet but eventually did and didn't find the lad among the 11 questions.. Phew that was close Smiley

Oh man... I missed the France defense question by one player... Now all I jeed is England strikers to each have at least one shot on target to be equal to inthelongrun. If I miss that, he'll be up two points and I'm not sure I'll manage to beat that.
We all did and the fun part about this quiz is all about the 1or 0, and I like this format tbh, had points been awarded for any correct names brought forward then tie breaks would be tough to get to sadly.

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December 04, 2022, 10:39:41 PM
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what a bad weekend for me! Everything I've done this weekend has been almost nothing but a loss! A heavy losing streak on everything I bet on😂 The only joy I have is that I'm leading Sportsbet's World Cup BTC Pool But with my misfortune it won't last long😂 It's been a nightmare this weekend😂😂

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December 05, 2022, 12:09:30 AM
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Oh man... I missed the France defense question by one player...
Same here, I was also one player off from getting that point but good thing I got the England question correct to maintain my lead.

My over 22 goals prediction is looking pretty good though, we're only halfway through and there are already 14 goals, 8 goals in the remaining games should be doable.  Grin

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