who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections?

[goldkingcoiner]

I doubt people will still reelect Biden after all the things he did in this first term. He'd be 90+ afaik, as he will just be sitting in the wheelchair by then. We have seen him fell many times as he climbs up the plane stairs. Trump will win. There is no other candidate who can make the US work together than Trump. Even Elon tweeted Trump will win this time around.

Well I would not be too sure about him not being voted in just because of his age. He was already an old man when he got voted in the first time. Why would that mean it cannot happen a second time? Trumps reelection is a bit unstable because he would try to undo everything Biden has done in relation to the war of Russia and Ukraine. Most people might see that as "being in too deep" to turn around and walk back.

Elon has been tweeting nothing but idiocy, so I would not take his tweets seriously. Obviously not as a standard of measurement.

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I doubt people will still reelect Biden after all the things he did in this first term. He'd be 90+ afaik, as he will just be sitting in the wheelchair by then. We have seen him fell many times as he climbs up the plane stairs. Trump will win. There is no other candidate who can make the US work together than Trump. Even Elon tweeted Trump will win this time around.

Well I would not be too sure about him not being voted in just because of his age. He was already an old man when he got voted in the first time. Why would that mean it cannot happen a second time? Trumps reelection is a bit unstable because he would try to undo everything Biden has done in relation to the war of Russia and Ukraine. Most people might see that as "being in too deep" to turn around and walk back.

Elon has been tweeting nothing but idiocy, so I would not take his tweets seriously. Obviously not as a standard of measurement.

well, trump is sinking when he goes on interviews, of course his supporters are a kind of unconditional supporters in every wrong thing he says or does he doesn't lose support from his loyal supporters, but the problem is that he gets a bad image before the to the international community, he seems to be pro-Russian and this is something that could make him lose again against Biden, Biden has a great advantage when it comes to knowing how to position himself in relation to international politics, being pro-Putin is not an idea smart, but trump doesn't seem to understand that, he avoids criticizing putin, there's also a situation in mexico where he said he concluded the punch in the interview he gave on cnn

something that was widely seen as a lie, many things he said in the interview were seen as a lie, if he continues like this then he will lose the election if he runs against biden, in my opinion in an election between biden and trump, I think the best option for the world will biden win as president and kamala as vice president, a trump victory would be a big problem for the world, I don't know if in economic terms it would be good or not for americans, but in terms of foreign policy it would not be not good to have trump back as president

[Casdinyard]

I doubt people will still reelect Biden after all the things he did in this first term. He'd be 90+ afaik, as he will just be sitting in the wheelchair by then. We have seen him fell many times as he climbs up the plane stairs. Trump will win. There is no other candidate who can make the US work together than Trump. Even Elon tweeted Trump will win this time around.

Well I would not be too sure about him not being voted in just because of his age. He was already an old man when he got voted in the first time. Why would that mean it cannot happen a second time? Trumps reelection is a bit unstable because he would try to undo everything Biden has done in relation to the war of Russia and Ukraine. Most people might see that as "being in too deep" to turn around and walk back.

Elon has been tweeting nothing but idiocy, so I would not take his tweets seriously. Obviously not as a standard of measurement.

Trump is slowly gaining traction and a little bit of a lead against Sleepy Joe. I would agree, Elon has been saying nothing but nonsense lately and he's lost all his internet cred from all the stupid things he did prior to this, With no one ever stepping up to challenge Trump for the position, I think this means a solid win for the Trump party. An upheaval is long overdue, Biden has taken a lot of his promises back, especially in the environment sector with the project willow becoming more and more real. So I think despite the fact that the chaotic undo that will ensue when Trump rules again, He still shows promise, the more Biden proves that he's not capable of running for presidency. All he has to do by now is to just literally watch Biden make fun of himself, and he'll land the role as long as no one capable steps against him.

[bittraffic]

I doubt people will still reelect Biden after all the things he did in this first term. He'd be 90+ afaik, as he will just be sitting in the wheelchair by then. We have seen him fell many times as he climbs up the plane stairs. Trump will win. There is no other candidate who can make the US work together than Trump. Even Elon tweeted Trump will win this time around.

Well I would not be too sure about him not being voted in just because of his age. He was already an old man when he got voted in the first time. Why would that mean it cannot happen a second time? Trumps reelection is a bit unstable because he would try to undo everything Biden has done in relation to the war of Russia and Ukraine. Most people might see that as "being in too deep" to turn around and walk back.

Elon has been tweeting nothing but idiocy, so I would not take his tweets seriously. Obviously not as a standard of measurement.

Did you know that candidates will need to have a debate right in front of the public to see how sane they are?

Once Joe gets up there, I don't think his secretary or his nurse could ever rescue him from being bombarded by what Trump could say. Just what Biden's administration did from Hunter's laptop, the border crisis, and the Russia-Ukraine war down to the debt crisis this time.
None may ever come to rescue him from mumbling all over the place telling stories of his hairy legs.

[Sithara007]

Did you know that candidates will need to have a debate right in front of the public to see how sane they are?

Once Joe gets up there, I don't think his secretary or his nurse could ever rescue him from being bombarded by what Trump could say. Just what Biden's administration did from Hunter's laptop, the border crisis, and the Russia-Ukraine war down to the debt crisis this time.
None may ever come to rescue him from mumbling all over the place telling stories of his hairy legs.

LOL.. the presidential debate would be quite entertaining. And Biden can't rely on the teleprompter. Trump is going to destroy him outright (given he wins the GOP presidential nomination). Biden is already trailing in most of the opinion polls. The latest polls from Rasmussen Reports measured his net disapproval at 14 points. Any blunder during the debates will sink him to a point beyond redemption. But that said, we still have one and half years to go for POTUS election of 2024. A lot of things can happen in these 18 months.

BTW, American Greatness released an opinion poll for Republican nomination for the state of Florida. Trump is leading with 42 points, compared to 34 for DeSantis. If DeSantis can't even win his home state, then I don't think that he stands a chance elsewhere.

[FanEagle]

Did you know that candidates will need to have a debate right in front of the public to see how sane they are?

Once Joe gets up there, I don't think his secretary or his nurse could ever rescue him from being bombarded by what Trump could say. Just what Biden's administration did from Hunter's laptop, the border crisis, and the Russia-Ukraine war down to the debt crisis this time.
None may ever come to rescue him from mumbling all over the place telling stories of his hairy legs.

LOL.. the presidential debate would be quite entertaining. And Biden can't rely on the teleprompter. Trump is going to destroy him outright (given he wins the GOP presidential nomination). Biden is already trailing in most of the opinion polls. The latest polls from Rasmussen Reports measured his net disapproval at 14 points. Any blunder during the debates will sink him to a point beyond redemption. But that said, we still have one and half years to go for POTUS election of 2024. A lot of things can happen in these 18 months.

BTW, American Greatness released an opinion poll for Republican nomination for the state of Florida. Trump is leading with 42 points, compared to 34 for DeSantis. If DeSantis can't even win his home state, then I don't think that he stands a chance elsewhere.

I don't understand this love for Trump at all, makes no sense to me. As we all know Trump could go out all by himself, no questions, no debate, just him, and he would still lose votes when he does that, that is exactly what happened when he was the president.

When he got elected, that was a lot of people not wanting to vote for Hillary, that was the main reason, people who would normally vote for the democrat candidate, didn't went out to vote for Hillary. After Trump got elected, people saw their mistake and a record breaking number of people voted for Biden, you think that was because Biden was good? Of course Biden is not good, of course he can't put two sentences back to back that makes sense, he sucks, but people hate Trump more than they like Biden, that's the key. How could someone not see that?

[Sandra_hakeem]

It's not even time yet....we've still got time so I wasn't expecting this now.
...and there's a certain perplexity that leaves me on a level of indicision --that which I can't even think of feigning at all... It goes this way - is it wise at all to have the governs political affairs on air for open wagering?? Won't that also mean that the governs are indirectly igniting what they've still got to take a whole decade fighting against?? Of what sense is that? Or the governs are not in support of this at all???

About the US Presidential choices - alot has happened in the recent government.... Taxes had increased and remained at Thier peaks - maybe for a little adjustments but that isn't normal at all. I believe the Masses will have to be careful on their next choice of franchise.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[Hispo]

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About the US Presidential choices - alot has happened in the recent government.... Taxes had increased and remained at Thier peaks - maybe for a little adjustments but that isn't normal at all. I believe the Masses will have to be careful on their next choice of franchise.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

If there is something I have learnt, Sandra. It is that American politics are not what once it was. Now with  the entrance of Dobald Trump, we are seeing so many unprecedented things happening, one of them is the leading Republican candidate being someone going through so many investigations.

It is something telling on the political priorities of the American people. Also, I agree that Campaigns in the United States are longer than in any other country I can think of. It must have something to do with the donors money, candidates need more time to stockpile cash from supporters. 

[Sithara007]

I don't understand this love for Trump at all, makes no sense to me. As we all know Trump could go out all by himself, no questions, no debate, just him, and he would still lose votes when he does that, that is exactly what happened when he was the president.

When he got elected, that was a lot of people not wanting to vote for Hillary, that was the main reason, people who would normally vote for the democrat candidate, didn't went out to vote for Hillary. After Trump got elected, people saw their mistake and a record breaking number of people voted for Biden, you think that was because Biden was good? Of course Biden is not good, of course he can't put two sentences back to back that makes sense, he sucks, but people hate Trump more than they like Biden, that's the key. How could someone not see that?

Ever since 2016, a majority of voters in the POTUS elections have voted for a candidate not because they like him or his policies, but because they oppose and hate the opposing candidate. Happened with Trump in 2016. He won because there was a massive wave against Hillary. And in 2020, Trump was at the receiving end. There was a massive wave against him, and this enabled Biden to win. And in 2024, once again it is going to be the same. Biden has record disapproval ratings as of now, and if Trump participates in the election, then a lot of voters will chose him just because they hate Biden.

[bittraffic]

I don't understand this love for Trump at all, makes no sense to me. As we all know Trump could go out all by himself, no questions, no debate, just him, and he would still lose votes when he does that, that is exactly what happened when he was the president.

When he got elected, that was a lot of people not wanting to vote for Hillary, that was the main reason, people who would normally vote for the democrat candidate, didn't went out to vote for Hillary. After Trump got elected, people saw their mistake and a record breaking number of people voted for Biden, you think that was because Biden was good? Of course Biden is not good, of course he can't put two sentences back to back that makes sense, he sucks, but people hate Trump more than they like Biden, that's the key. How could someone not see that?

Ever since 2016, a majority of voters in the POTUS elections have voted for a candidate not because they like him or his policies, but because they oppose and hate the opposing candidate. Happened with Trump in 2016. He won because there was a massive wave against Hillary. And in 2020, Trump was at the receiving end. There was a massive wave against him, and this enabled Biden to win. And in 2024, once again it is going to be the same. Biden has record disapproval ratings as of now, and if Trump participates in the election, then a lot of voters will chose him just because they hate Biden.

That would likely happen as people will compare how they are in the time of Trump vs the time they are in Biden.  Surely they can tell the difference since Trump had not made the prices of stuff go up the roof. More crises got worse in Biden's time making the voters hate. And this hate means no vote for him.

Desantis seem no match in terms of popularity.
Luckily Biden seems to be useful for both parties and not yet thrown him under the bus unlike Andrew Cuomo who could have been a better presidentiable but in a snap, all his dreams crumbled.

[nullama]

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LOL.. the presidential debate would be quite entertaining. And Biden can't rely on the teleprompter. Trump is going to destroy him outright (given he wins the GOP presidential nomination). Biden is already trailing in most of the opinion polls. The latest polls from Rasmussen Reports measured his net disapproval at 14 points. Any blunder during the debates will sink him to a point beyond redemption. But that said, we still have one and half years to go for POTUS election of 2024. A lot of things can happen in these 18 months.

BTW, American Greatness released an opinion poll for Republican nomination for the state of Florida. Trump is leading with 42 points, compared to 34 for DeSantis. If DeSantis can't even win his home state, then I don't think that he stands a chance elsewhere.

I think Trump will end up being the candidate, but I'm not sure who will win the presidential vote.

It's going to be a close call I think, but in any case Biden and Trump are both really old to be the president, they are around 80 years old, that's a lot.

But I don't think there's any other alternative

[Sithara007]

That would likely happen as people will compare how they are in the time of Trump vs the time they are in Biden.  Surely they can tell the difference since Trump had not made the prices of stuff go up the roof. More crises got worse in Biden's time making the voters hate. And this hate means no vote for him.

Desantis seem no match in terms of popularity.
Luckily Biden seems to be useful for both parties and not yet thrown him under the bus unlike Andrew Cuomo who could have been a better presidentiable but in a snap, all his dreams crumbled.

Economy was in much better state when Trump was the president. Inflation was under control, gas prices were affordable and jobs were being created. The only reason why Trump lost 2020 POTUS was due to his improper handling of the COVID19 crisis. Media used it against him, and that swung a lot of votes against him. The first thing Biden did when he became the president was to cancel one of the major oil pipeline projects and to impose more regulations on American shale oil producers. And quite predictably, the inflation rate shot up as a result of that.

[el kaka22]

It is not a good reason to vote for a president and that is USA's trouble. No matter who wins this election, it is going to be because they will be hated more than the other guy. Trump may win because there will be 3.5+ year difference since he was last president and people may forget what he was like and that is the important thing. If you give him just 1 year as president, people want to change him too, and same happened with Biden as well.

You just need to realize that is not a good enough reason to pick someone, just because you hate the other. They need better candidates, not Trump, not Biden, pick someone people will vote because they want that person to be president, not because they don't want the other candidate to be president, that makes the nation just go worse and worse.

[molsewid]

That would likely happen as people will compare how they are in the time of Trump vs the time they are in Biden.  Surely they can tell the difference since Trump had not made the prices of stuff go up the roof. More crises got worse in Biden's time making the voters hate. And this hate means no vote for him.

Desantis seem no match in terms of popularity.
Luckily Biden seems to be useful for both parties and not yet thrown him under the bus unlike Andrew Cuomo who could have been a better presidentiable but in a snap, all his dreams crumbled.

Economy was in much better state when Trump was the president. Inflation was under control, gas prices were affordable and jobs were being created. The only reason why Trump lost 2020 POTUS was due to his improper handling of the COVID19 crisis. Media used it against him, and that swung a lot of votes against him. The first thing Biden did when he became the president was to cancel one of the major oil pipeline projects and to impose more regulations on American shale oil producers. And quite predictably, the inflation rate shot up as a result of that.

I agree, with you since Trump is actually a  businessman before he become a president I am sure he can control those things but then just like what you said he has an issue regarding the crisis which made a large impact in his second turn. But if there's only two candidate for now and I am living in America I will choose Trump over biden .

[Hispo]

It is not a good reason to vote for a president and that is USA's trouble. No matter who wins this election, it is going to be because they will be hated more than the other guy. Trump may win because there will be 3.5+ year difference since he was last president and people may forget what he was like and that is the important thing. If you give him just 1 year as president, people want to change him too, and same happened with Biden as well.

You just need to realize that is not a good enough reason to pick someone, just because you hate the other. They need better candidates, not Trump, not Biden, pick someone people will vote because they want that person to be president, not because they don't want the other candidate to be president, that makes the nation just go worse and worse.

Well, both you and me know that the people within the elite of the Democrat and Republican party are those in charge of deciding who they are going to sponsor and push towards the nomination line.
Even if there are better independent candidates which would actually solve problems and improve the life standard of the average American citizen. It is not really about it.

It is about keeping untouched the status quo. Biden is part of that status quo and Trump is a deviation (a negative one) from it. That is why there is people who want to get rid of him, so politics can go back again to be an alternation of power with the same interests.

[STT]

The bias is towards reelection, for Biden not to be elected regardless of opinions its the summary and final vote count that matters so there has to be a larger consensus against the President standing for reelection.  All of that is precedent osbervely over a hundred years or more, people will reelect and mostly thats only negated by a recession because that does effect everyone so is a consensus against the president.  
   Again similar for Trump, he has a hundred year storm occur in the year of the election thats just tough luck.  I do imagine he'd still be in office if it werent for the harshest pullback in economy, in every part of society if it hadnt been for that.   Not that the President should really take the credit for a country just carrying on and working as per normal thats to the nations credit tbh, but like it or not they will suffer the blame if anything major goes wrong

[nullama]

The bias is towards reelection, for Biden not to be elected regardless of opinions its the summary and final vote count that matters so there has to be a larger consensus against the President standing for reelection.  All of that is precedent osbervely over a hundred years or more, people will reelect and mostly thats only negated by a recession because that does effect everyone so is a consensus against the president.  
   Again similar for Trump, he has a hundred year storm occur in the year of the election thats just tough luck.  I do imagine he'd still be in office if it werent for the harshest pullback in economy, in every part of society if it hadnt been for that.   Not that the President should really take the credit for a country just carrying on and working as per normal thats to the nations credit tbh, but like it or not they will suffer the blame if anything major goes wrong

These days the economies of most countries in the world are interconnected, so I think it won't matter too much who is the next president, pretty much the same outcome will happen in my view.

There are just too many external things that the president doesn't have control over, and they will affect the internal economy.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I think Trump will end up being the candidate, but I'm not sure who will win the presidential vote.

From what I've seen, Trump is the frontrunner in the polls, and rumour has it that DeSantis could end up as his VP, so if Trump wins, DeSantis could run for president, and if he wins, serve up to two more terms.

Specifically about the next election, if it's between Trump and Biden, I think Trump could cause a lot of votes against him that another GOP candidate wouldn't cause, so I think it's going to be pretty close.

[ChiBitCTy]

I think Trump will end up being the candidate, but I'm not sure who will win the presidential vote.

From what I've seen, Trump is the frontrunner in the polls, and rumour has it that DeSantis could end up as his VP, so if Trump wins, DeSantis could run for president, and if he wins, serve up to two more terms.

Specifically about the next election, if it's between Trump and Biden, I think Trump could cause a lot of votes against him that another GOP candidate wouldn't cause, so I think it's going to be pretty close.

There’s no chance that DeSantis becomes Trumps VP. I do have no doubt that if Trump beats him out to secure the Republican nomination, that Ron will get down on his hands and knees for Trump (especially if he wins the presidential election) and blow him just like all of that party has and did, even after doing shit like calling their wives ugly. Smh.

 Biden and Trump are absolutely pathetic options. Ronny isn’t much better either.

[tusandii]

These days the economies of most countries in the world are interconnected, so I think it won't matter too much who is the next president, pretty much the same outcome will happen in my view.

There are just too many external things that the president doesn't have control over, and they will affect the internal economy.

This happened because of the declining economic turmoil and some financial inflation in each country, causing an interconnected economy in each country.
Whoever will become the next president, maybe you don't mind it, but the hope is that the president will be able to fix all the problems that occur, including the declining economy and finances.
But if you look at it from a more real point of view, Trump is the only one with the potential to win the election.

A president is indeed very influential and can control many external things in a country, that's why every citizen must be able to choose a candidate leader who can really work well.