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June 25, 2023, 04:43:23 PM
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What I think it is happening is that bettors realize there is a silent majority who does not attend to neither leftist events nor MAGA gatherings, the so called moderated voters, they are more pragmatic and do not go along with whatever of the things Trump says, political related or in relation to the charges he is facing.

That is why Republican candidates in the mid terms under performed, on the news you only see fanatics but those who stay calm in their homes also vote and they do it in a more rational manner, there is where the Biden's changes of winning come from, from normal people who may not agree on several policies of Biden but approve his economical advances.
You mean "normal" people. Because any normal person would see right through this situation and would not want either side. This is basically just trying to get votes by playing into the hands of other side and I think that's not a good way.

Any candidate that is a normal person who just says ordinary stuff like more jobs, better healthcare, cheaper drugs, better education, more pay to teachers, better pay to truckers, military power, and all kinds of cliche things presidential candidates said for the last 200 years, I bet that person would actually have a high chance of getting the win. When both sides are crazy like this, I can say that it is not going to be easy choice, everyone would look into this as a "better my bad than your bad guy" type of deal.
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June 26, 2023, 06:11:44 PM
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... everyone would look into this as a "better my bad than your bad guy" type of deal.

And I think that is what happened during the presidential election that give Trump his first Term, Trump was a bad candidate in terms of policy and Hillary was not popular enough, even among democrat voters. Bernie had more lefty ideas which managed to capture a good percentage of the democrat voting base, but in the end, he was left out the race.

It is sad that in today's politics, it is not longer unacceptable to say things like Trump does or even Biden does. Normal politics and diplomacy is missed by many, i am certain...


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June 27, 2023, 04:29:12 AM
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And I think that is what happened during the presidential election that give Trump his first Term, Trump was a bad candidate in terms of policy and Hillary was not popular enough, even among democrat voters. Bernie had more lefty ideas which managed to capture a good percentage of the democrat voting base, but in the end, he was left out the race.

It is sad that in today's politics, it is not longer unacceptable to say things like Trump does or even Biden does. Normal politics and diplomacy is missed by many, i am certain...

I wonder if presidents like Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, or Theodore Roosevelt would be popular in 2024.

The United States is a completely different place these days compared to when they were presidents.
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June 27, 2023, 05:33:50 AM
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I wonder if presidents like Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, or Theodore Roosevelt would be popular in 2024.

The United States is a completely different place these days compared to when they were presidents.

Franklin D. Roosevelt was the president of the United States during 1930s to 1940s. He was the one who commanded USA during World War 2. On the other hand, Theodore Roosevelt started his presidency more than a hundred years ago, in 1901. I am not even going to mention about Abraham Lincoln and George Washington. Back then, the priorities for voters were quite different. And USA was not even the no.1 economy in the world. A lot has changed in the last 100 years... and according to that the profile of candidates have also changed.

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June 27, 2023, 08:26:51 AM
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... everyone would look into this as a "better my bad than your bad guy" type of deal.

And I think that is what happened during the presidential election that give Trump his first Term, Trump was a bad candidate in terms of policy and Hillary was not popular enough, even among democrat voters. Bernie had more lefty ideas which managed to capture a good percentage of the democrat voting base, but in the end, he was left out the race.

It is sad that in today's politics, it is not longer unacceptable to say things like Trump does or even Biden does. Normal politics and diplomacy is missed by many, i am certain...


I am not well informed with inner American sociology but I always wonder, do Americans want change? I also feel like they want something totally different to both Trump and Biden. I guess new faces may have greater chance in next year's voting. I would say new Christian conservative candidate may have lot more chance than Trump having new term... Biden on the other hand is very very old guy. He will retire to be replaced by someone new within his party. I guess they may try female candidate for once more. Its a shame America never had female president.
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June 27, 2023, 08:48:53 AM
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I wonder if presidents like Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, or Theodore Roosevelt would be popular in 2024.

The United States is a completely different place these days compared to when they were presidents.

Yhey are men of good substance, they have lived by example, that was their own era and we cannot compare it to this current dispensation because obviously things have changed in a big way, during their tenure, they give the best they could in accordance to how the state of affairs were then, we cannot compare that to now because the more we advanced in technology and developments the more the demands needed for more efforts on their governance, but this era has also birth new opportunities through the present president.

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June 27, 2023, 09:43:54 AM
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And I think that is what happened during the presidential election that give Trump his first Term, Trump was a bad candidate in terms of policy and Hillary was not popular enough, even among democrat voters. Bernie had more lefty ideas which managed to capture a good percentage of the democrat voting base, but in the end, he was left out the race.

It is sad that in today's politics, it is not longer unacceptable to say things like Trump does or even Biden does. Normal politics and diplomacy is missed by many, i am certain...

I wonder if presidents like Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, or Theodore Roosevelt would be popular in 2024.

The United States is a completely different place these days compared to when they were presidents.

Now everything is different in the global place we live in,the world now is just but a big global country and of course the politics being conducted nowadays are much different compared to those presidents mentioned here which are indeed the best ones in US history.

It is even more difficult to bet on a winner in the US elections in 2024 as we have also to take into a big chunk of account the war on Ukraine,what will be the expectation of such on going war and how it will be during the elections time if it will still be a live,so this all cast even more doubt on betting on such event.

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June 27, 2023, 10:56:17 AM
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I wonder if presidents like Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, or Theodore Roosevelt would be popular in 2024.

The United States is a completely different place these days compared to when they were presidents.
Waiting for the 2024 United States elections, I know the best presidential candidate will win, but the main question is, who will be the next president after Joe Biden? These are powerful principled guys who are always willing to assist America and its citizens. They are patriotic when it comes to national revenue and have served the country to the best of their abilities. Comparing prehistoric and modern politics is on a whole different level. New legislation have been enacted to shape the electoral process, and these candidates will set out their plans to become winner, everything scenario concerning the election would be tensed.

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June 27, 2023, 05:15:18 PM
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And I think that is what happened during the presidential election that give Trump his first Term, Trump was a bad candidate in terms of policy and Hillary was not popular enough, even among democrat voters. Bernie had more lefty ideas which managed to capture a good percentage of the democrat voting base, but in the end, he was left out the race.

It is sad that in today's politics, it is not longer unacceptable to say things like Trump does or even Biden does. Normal politics and diplomacy is missed by many, i am certain...

I wonder if presidents like Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, or Theodore Roosevelt would be popular in 2024.

The United States is a completely different place these days compared to when they were presidents.
How about a time warp for fame and likes, eh? Lincoln, Washington, the Roosevelts — would they ace 2024's popularity game? Think about Lincoln in the digital era. Would his Gettysburg TikTok shake souls worldwide? And Washington, a party-neutral, could he unite the hyper-tagged 2024 populace? Imagine Teddy Roosevelt Instagramming live from a National Park, or F.D. Roosevelt on a YouTube live for his "fireside chats." Picture them dancing to the tune of memes and hashtags.

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June 28, 2023, 12:07:18 AM
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Who will be the candidates anyway? I don't trust both party but one will win eventually. Good presidents do their second terms, like Obama, and bad presidents can't do, like Trump. I don't think Biden fit in both categories. He wasn't bad but he's too old to re-elect, I don't even think he will be a candidate again. I have to see DP's candidates first.
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June 28, 2023, 02:00:50 AM
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Who will be the candidates anyway? I don't trust both party but one will win eventually. Good presidents do their second terms, like Obama, and bad presidents can't do, like Trump. I don't think Biden fit in both categories. He wasn't bad but he's too old to re-elect, I don't even think he will be a candidate again. I have to see DP's candidates first.

Mainstream media is now rejecting Biden. And no one can blame them seeing how unfit the old man is. He was even acknowledging the numerous state secrets he had sold live on TV and everyone besides him had the funniest reaction, no one did the face palm though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVIe3AvvDPU

Trump also got the viral audio recording where he discussed classified docs he held on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIDdrFjHh0o

Both parties need a new representative for the 2024 election. But if both of them insist, I think Trump will still win.

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Mainstream media is now rejecting Biden. And no one can blame them seeing how unfit the old man is. He was even acknowledging the numerous state secrets he had sold live on TV and everyone besides him had the funniest reaction, no one did the face palm though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVIe3AvvDPU

Trump also got the viral audio recording where he discussed classified docs he held on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIDdrFjHh0o

Both parties need a new representative for the 2024 election. But if both of them insist, I think Trump will still win.

LOL.. from where do you get the idea that mainstream media is rejecting Biden? From what I can see, the MSM is still solidly behind Biden. Just check the coverage of the recent Hunter Biden scandal and you will understand. And I agree with the argument that both the parties need new candidates in 2024. But looks like that is not going to happen. In all probability, 2024 POTUS elections will be a re-run of 2020. Opinion polls are quite divergent at this point. Some, like Rasmussen Reports, Harvard-Harris and The Messenger/HarrisX puts Trump ahead of Biden by a large margin. While some of the other polls, like those from NBC News, Quinnipiac and Yahoo News have predicted results in the opposite direction.

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Mainstream media is now rejecting Biden. And no one can blame them seeing how unfit the old man is. He was even acknowledging the numerous state secrets he had sold live on TV and everyone besides him had the funniest reaction, no one did the face palm though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVIe3AvvDPU

Trump also got the viral audio recording where he discussed classified docs he held on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIDdrFjHh0o

Both parties need a new representative for the 2024 election. But if both of them insist, I think Trump will still win.

The audio recording of Trump was quite interesting to hear.

When are we going to get the results of this whole thing?
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Now everything is different in the global place we live in,the world now is just but a big global country and of course the politics being conducted nowadays are much different compared to those presidents mentioned here which are indeed the best ones in US history.

It is even more difficult to bet on a winner in the US elections in 2024 as we have also to take into a big chunk of account the war on Ukraine,what will be the expectation of such on going war and how it will be during the elections time if it will still be a live,so this all cast even more doubt on betting on such event.
The global part is very true because back in the day people wouldn't even know the names of the presidents in other nations, well mostly they still do not know but type of people who are interested in politics not only know who the president is, but they know who they went up against and won as well. I bet that during like 50s and 60s people wouldn't know who the runner up on the USA election was, they would know who the president was if they cared but not who they won against.

I am not talking about Americans by the way, they go to elections and see, I mean people outside of that nation. This works for all the nations as well not just USA, I know who Macron went against, or why Merkel stayed for so long, and that old bitter angry lady in Italy as well.

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Mainstream media is now rejecting Biden. And no one can blame them seeing how unfit the old man is. He was even acknowledging the numerous state secrets he had sold live on TV and everyone besides him had the funniest reaction, no one did the face palm though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVIe3AvvDPU

Trump also got the viral audio recording where he discussed classified docs he held on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIDdrFjHh0o

Both parties need a new representative for the 2024 election. But if both of them insist, I think Trump will still win.

The audio recording of Trump was quite interesting to hear.

When are we going to get the results of this whole thing?

The result of all this mess are going on in front of us, in real time.
It seems at the point that Trump won't get away with these crimes, however, only time would tell. The fact he is the front runner of this incoming election is surreal for the democratic standards of a country like the United States, in my opinion.

Also, the audio does not matter much to his followers, since the beginning they have been convinced Trump has absolute right to hold onto those papers.

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The result of all this mess are going on in front of us, in real time.
It seems at the point that Trump won't get away with these crimes, however, only time would tell. The fact he is the front runner of this incoming election is surreal for the democratic standards of a country like the United States, in my opinion.

Also, the audio does not matter much to his followers, since the beginning they have been convinced Trump has absolute right to hold onto those papers.

Trump may or may not get away with these crimes. But Biden has already secured some sort of an amnesty for his son Hunter. What I am trying to say is that there are no saints here. Usually during the American presidential elections, it is about choosing the option that is less poisonous. But this time it has reached an entirely different level. The voters are being asked whether they would like to have Ebola or AIDS. I used to appreciate the two-party system within the United States. Unlike the case with some of the European nations, this avoids smaller parties holding the parliament to ransom. But now we are witnessing some of the disadvantages of this same system.

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The result of all this mess are going on in front of us, in real time.
It seems at the point that Trump won't get away with these crimes, however, only time would tell. The fact he is the front runner of this incoming election is surreal for the democratic standards of a country like the United States, in my opinion.

Also, the audio does not matter much to his followers, since the beginning they have been convinced Trump has absolute right to hold onto those papers.

Yeah, I've talked with some people and they are starting to suggest that it was AI generated  Grin

It would be wild if the next president of the US is elected from jail. Can that actually happen?, as in does this case has a potential outcome of jail?, and if so, can a president be elected from jail? I think you can't even vote if convicted...
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Now everything is different in the global place we live in,the world now is just but a big global country and of course the politics being conducted nowadays are much different compared to those presidents mentioned here which are indeed the best ones in US history.

It is even more difficult to bet on a winner in the US elections in 2024 as we have also to take into a big chunk of account the war on Ukraine,what will be the expectation of such on going war and how it will be during the elections time if it will still be a live,so this all cast even more doubt on betting on such event.
The global part is very true because back in the day people wouldn't even know the names of the presidents in other nations, well mostly they still do not know but type of people who are interested in politics not only know who the president is, but they know who they went up against and won as well. I bet that during like 50s and 60s people wouldn't know who the runner up on the USA election was, they would know who the president was if they cared but not who they won against.

I am not talking about Americans by the way, they go to elections and see, I mean people outside of that nation. This works for all the nations as well not just USA, I know who Macron went against, or why Merkel stayed for so long, and that old bitter angry lady in Italy as well.
The seismic shift we're experiencing traces back to the mushrooming of digital media and IT, smashing geographic barricades and gifting us real-time access to global info. You're on point - a couple of decades ago, most folks were only privy to their local leadership. Contrast that with now, when information is as close as a swipe or a click. Elections unfolding thousands of miles away, the contenders, their plans, even the intricacies of their campaigns - we're privy to all! This accessibility has cultivated a global populace that's interwoven and enlightened. But let's not overlook the two-sided coin of this information surge. Yes, we're more knowledgeable, but the shadow of misinformation and deceit also looms ominously.

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June 29, 2023, 05:28:10 PM
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Now everything is different in the global place we live in,the world now is just but a big global country and of course the politics being conducted nowadays are much different compared to those presidents mentioned here which are indeed the best ones in US history.

It is even more difficult to bet on a winner in the US elections in 2024 as we have also to take into a big chunk of account the war on Ukraine,what will be the expectation of such on going war and how it will be during the elections time if it will still be a live,so this all cast even more doubt on betting on such event.
The global part is very true because back in the day people wouldn't even know the names of the presidents in other nations, well mostly they still do not know but type of people who are interested in politics not only know who the president is, but they know who they went up against and won as well. I bet that during like 50s and 60s people wouldn't know who the runner up on the USA election was, they would know who the president was if they cared but not who they won against.

I am not talking about Americans by the way, they go to elections and see, I mean people outside of that nation. This works for all the nations as well not just USA, I know who Macron went against, or why Merkel stayed for so long, and that old bitter angry lady in Italy as well.
This is true thanks to social media and peoples love for argument. It doesn't matter who the candidates are, there is absolutely zero interest on who the candidates are, people like to argue, it is going to be "Is X better or is Y better, which one do you prefer?" and ask this to people and people will argue over which one is better, doesn't matter what it is. you could literally do like "which one is better apples or oranges?" and there will be thousands of people arguing over which one is better.

This is why I believe that we shouldn't really be worried about any of this, since it is not going to be that much easy to decide. I believe that we should be getting used to people easily arguing over the president as well, even if they are not Americans, they just love to argue.
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June 29, 2023, 05:54:08 PM
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The result of all this mess are going on in front of us, in real time.
It seems at the point that Trump won't get away with these crimes, however, only time would tell. The fact he is the front runner of this incoming election is surreal for the democratic standards of a country like the United States, in my opinion.

Also, the audio does not matter much to his followers, since the beginning they have been convinced Trump has absolute right to hold onto those papers.

Yeah, I've talked with some people and they are starting to suggest that it was AI generated  Grin

It would be wild if the next president of the US is elected from jail. Can that actually happen?, as in does this case has a potential outcome of jail?, and if so, can a president be elected from jail? I think you can't even vote if convicted...

As far as I have read, Trump can be elected president from jail. I am not sure whether that would mean he is supposed to be released immediately after being declared winner, because I think the president of the United State happens to have some kind of immunity.

I have also read suggestions on Trump pardoning himself out any federal crime he could be accused/found guilty of, but that would not help with the crimes at state level, like the voting interference in Georgia and the Hush money in New York.

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