who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections?

[Sithara007]

Kennedy's entry as an independent has complicated things. Recent polls have shown him with support ranging from 9 to 22 points. The most important thing is that Biden is leading in almost all the polls where Kennedy is also there. Only one poll from Harvard-Harris has shown Trump in the lead. The most recent poll from USA Today/Suffolk has Trump and Biden in tie, when Kennedy and West are also given as option. When only Kennedy is there, then Biden is having a clear lead. All that said, I am not sure whether these trends are going to hold.

[Hispo]

Kennedy's entry as an independent has complicated things. Recent polls have shown him with support ranging from 9 to 22 points. The most important thing is that Biden is leading in almost all the polls where Kennedy is also there. Only one poll from Harvard-Harris has shown Trump in the lead. The most recent poll from USA Today/Suffolk has Trump and Biden in tie, when Kennedy and West are also given as option. When only Kennedy is there, then Biden is having a clear lead. All that said, I am not sure whether these trends are going to hold.

Kennedy's entry is more advantageous to Biden than it is for Trump.
I have heard some political annalists to suggest most of Kennedy supports comes from Republican Voters who are not happy with Trump, whether because he is being indicted or because they are not as far in the right as Trump has become lately.
I have already seen a couple or political articles by right wing media tackling the independent run of Kennedy, because they are very clear on the damage those independent candidates can inflict on when the race is as close as the 2020 Presidential run was.

I wonder if some other candidate will run independently and spoil the possibilities of Biden. It is very unlikely to happen, but in politics those unexpected moves can happen often.

[CryptSafe]

Betting on the USA election i think is too son because we do not know the major contenders as the parties are yet to choose their flag bearers except for the democrats which  we already know the flag bearer which is the person of the President. Just like football, we already know the players to be featured before the then main day of the game but here, primaries have nt brrn conducted so how do we predict who willwin the election where as the election is still very much far ahead.

[Hispo]

Betting on the USA election i think is too son because we do not know the major contenders as the parties are yet to choose their flag bearers except for the democrats which  we already know the flag bearer which is the person of the President. Just like football, we already know the players to be featured before the then main day of the game but here, primaries have nt brrn conducted so how do we predict who willwin the election where as the election is still very much far ahead.

Well. I personally disagree.
It is just a different kind of market for bets, it is supposed to be for those who are interested into geopolitics or the politics in the United States and also like to bet in the mid term (not only in the short term).
The odds have varied enough on candidates on both parties which it has already possible for some to cash out some of money, by odds change only.
Also, this kind of bet discussions also encourage speculation on a highly volatile political situatiom which the United States is going through. This incoming presidential election will be the most important one in the history of that country, so I do not blame anyone if they are interested on betting earlier than usual.  

[Fatunad]

Betting on the USA election i think is too son because we do not know the major contenders as the parties are yet to choose their flag bearers except for the democrats which  we already know the flag bearer which is the person of the President. Just like football, we already know the players to be featured before the then main day of the game but here, primaries have nt brrn conducted so how do we predict who willwin the election where as the election is still very much far ahead.

Well. I personally disagree.
It is just a different kind of market for bets, it is supposed to be for those who are interested into geopolitics or the politics in the United States and also like to bet in the mid term (not only in the short term).
The odds have varied enough on candidates on both parties which it has already possible for some to cash out some of money, by odds change only.
Also, this kind of bet discussions also encourage speculation on a highly volatile political situatiom which the United States is going through. This incoming presidential election will be the most important one in the history of that country, so I do not blame anyone if they are interested on betting earlier than usual.  

It would always falls down into someones interest in the end of the day or in the end of the line which its true that there are ones who are really that interested on betting on politics and there are ones who dont really just care about these things but rather they would really be that betting on something which there's no chance that it would be sabotage. Even if we do say that presidential elections could really be that somewhat obvious
but we dont really know on how it would really be ending on, considering that issues and other possible things that could disqualify a certain candidate could really be  that possible or some explosive issues that been thrown out which would really be turning out the tides.

I  cant really just take up the risks or really that much of my forte on joining or betting on politics and this is why it is really that out of my interest.
Its true that there might be people who arent interest but there are ones who do really want to make out bets on presidential elections.

[CryptSafe]

Betting on the USA election i think is too son because we do not know the major contenders as the parties are yet to choose their flag bearers except for the democrats which  we already know the flag bearer which is the person of the President. Just like football, we already know the players to be featured before the then main day of the game but here, primaries have nt brrn conducted so how do we predict who willwin the election where as the election is still very much far ahead.

Well. I personally disagree.
It is just a different kind of market for bets, it is supposed to be for those who are interested into geopolitics or the politics in the United States and also like to bet in the mid term (not only in the short term).
The odds have varied enough on candidates on both parties which it has already possible for some to cash out some of money, by odds change only.
Also, this kind of bet discussions also encourage speculation on a highly volatile political situatiom which the United States is going through. This incoming presidential election will be the most important one in the history of that country, so I do not blame anyone if they are interested on betting earlier than usual.  

It would always falls down into someones interest in the end of the day or in the end of the line which its true that there are ones who are really that interested on betting on politics and there are ones who dont really just care about these things but rather they would really be that betting on something which there's no chance that it would be sabotage. Even if we do say that presidential elections could really be that somewhat obvious
but we dont really know on how it would really be ending on, considering that issues and other possible things that could disqualify a certain candidate could really be  that possible or some explosive issues that been thrown out which would really be turning out the tides.

I  cant really just take up the risks or really that much of my forte on joining or betting on politics and this is why it is really that out of my interest.
Its true that there might be people who arent interest but there are ones who do really want to make out bets on presidential elections.

You are correct mate. Betting on politics is more of you wasting your efforts because the system can be truncated by human agents through manipulation by vote rigging and buying. In my country, elections are always manipulated and sabotaged without any remorse so let us assume this is the case, can you be comfortable and feel convenient placing bet on it? A system that is not free and fair to start with. That of US might be a free and fair outwardly but the process can be marred. Soni would not waste my resources doing such. I rather put it on a sports betting for fun than go for election bet.

[Sithara007]

Kennedy's entry is more advantageous to Biden than it is for Trump.
I have heard some political annalists to suggest most of Kennedy supports comes from Republican Voters who are not happy with Trump, whether because he is being indicted or because they are not as far in the right as Trump has become lately.
I have already seen a couple or political articles by right wing media tackling the independent run of Kennedy, because they are very clear on the damage those independent candidates can inflict on when the race is as close as the 2020 Presidential run was.

I wonder if some other candidate will run independently and spoil the possibilities of Biden. It is very unlikely to happen, but in politics those unexpected moves can happen often.

That is exactly the point. Trump will be the big loser in case Kennedy secures significant support. But elections are still a full 12 months away and a lot of things can happen before that. If Kennedy feels that he has zero chance of winning the race, then he may pull out and may even declare support for Trump. And by next year, Trump should be able to consolidate support within the GOP. There is still a risk though, as a lot of infighting is going on among the Republicans. Hopefully everything will be sorted out soon.

[FanEagle]

Kennedy will not get more than 2 percent of the votes, pools could show whatever but he has absolutely no chance of getting anything more than 2. They may say his name now, but when it comes to actual voting people like to vote on people that have a chance to win, we all know that he has no chance of winning and that means people will not vote on someone who has guarantee of losing the election.

Polls are different because of this, they are just asking people who would they rather see as president and I am sure that there are 9-22% people who would like to see Kennedy as president I have no doubt about that but the reality is that even they know he will not be the president and they are going to avoid voting for him when the time comes because of this reason. He will get max 2% and the rest will be between Biden and Trump, they were both terrible presidents so people will not vote much if you ask me, they will not care, whoever wins, USA loses.

[Hispo]

Kennedy's entry is more advantageous to Biden than it is for Trump.
I have heard some political annalists to suggest most of Kennedy supports comes from Republican Voters who are not happy with Trump, whether because he is being indicted or because they are not as far in the right as Trump has become lately.
I have already seen a couple or political articles by right wing media tackling the independent run of Kennedy, because they are very clear on the damage those independent candidates can inflict on when the race is as close as the 2020 Presidential run was.

I wonder if some other candidate will run independently and spoil the possibilities of Biden. It is very unlikely to happen, but in politics those unexpected moves can happen often.

That is exactly the point. Trump will be the big loser in case Kennedy secures significant support. But elections are still a full 12 months away and a lot of things can happen before that. If Kennedy feels that he has zero chance of winning the race, then he may pull out and may even declare support for Trump. And by next year, Trump should be able to consolidate support within the GOP. There is still a risk though, as a lot of infighting is going on among the Republicans. Hopefully everything will be sorted out soon.

I don't see Kennedy going out the race by his own, to be honest. Solely the act of continuing within the race as an independent talks about how stubborn he can be. If he goes out the race, then it would be likely because he was offered some economical benefits by either some politicians with the Republican party who are favorable towards Trump, or even by Trump himself.

On the disarray of the Republican party, it was to be expected if not all the party is unified within the leadership of Trump or against him, there is already much friction going on the election of the next speaker of the House of Representatives, something which should be basic governing cannot be approached without Republicans getting together.

[Sithara007]

I don't see Kennedy going out the race by his own, to be honest. Solely the act of continuing within the race as an independent talks about how stubborn he can be. If he goes out the race, then it would be likely because he was offered some economical benefits by either some politicians with the Republican party who are favorable towards Trump, or even by Trump himself.

On the disarray of the Republican party, it was to be expected if not all the party is unified within the leadership of Trump or against him, there is already much friction going on the election of the next speaker of the House of Representatives, something which should be basic governing cannot be approached without Republicans getting together.

Trump doesn't have a lot of support among the GOP members of the House or the Senate. It was quite evident during the speaker elections (after Kevin McCarthy got kicked out). Trump's nominee far less votes compared to the candidate from the other camp. When the voting is not open, a lot of the legislators just refuse to support Trump. But many of them lack the balls to take an open stance against him in the public, because then Trump fanboys will destroy them in the primaries. It is quite possible that a lot of these disgruntled Republicans will end up supporting Kennedy in 2026.

[virasog]

Kennedy will not get more than 2 percent of the votes, pools could show whatever but he has absolutely no chance of getting anything more than 2. They may say his name now, but when it comes to actual voting people like to vote on people that have a chance to win, we all know that he has no chance of winning and that means people will not vote on someone who has guarantee of losing the election.

Polls are different because of this, they are just asking people who would they rather see as president and I am sure that there are 9-22% people who would like to see Kennedy as president I have no doubt about that but the reality is that even they know he will not be the president and they are going to avoid voting for him when the time comes because of this reason. He will get max 2% and the rest will be between Biden and Trump, they were both terrible presidents so people will not vote much if you ask me, they will not care, whoever wins, USA loses.

I also have the feeling that the poll results and the actual presidential results are different. Also if you say that people do not like both their personalities and won't for none, this is also not going to happen and it is only the opinion on social media.
On election day, you will see the pooling booth full of voters casting their votes.

Since there is a whole year to the election, the election campaign can influence the decision of the people. People will judge the candidates not only on their previous performances but at the same time their stance on the Russia / Ukraine war and also on their point of view about the Israel Palestine conflict.

[Hispo]

Today I just read the news Mike Pence has put his presidential run for 2024 on hold, which basically means he has decided to give up on his big political aspirations, in my opinion.
Obviously, most of us knew that Mike has little to no chance of winning this race and defeat his former boss Donald Trump, but there is no doubt in my mind that there must be some daring bettors out there who threw a few bucks at Mike Penke in hopes of getting a big multiplier in 2024 or cashout when they had the chance to do so.

In other News, it seems Halley is about to surpass DeSantis in the polls, if so I would expect her to start to get more sponsors and donors, not like it mattered, to me the Republican nomination race is over.

[STT]

I thought Pence would have had more success or able to accumulate votes as Trump became mired in court business rather then pulling in votes.    Sadly not the entire party seems to be consumed with either Trump or personality politics which Pence did not have a large amount of in prospect apparently.
  For the moment I dont see a great opponent to Trump from within his own party and that probably means the republican's win overall is not competitive enough to garner mainstream votes and win but thats too early to call.   Im not inspired to think an outside bet will come through at present.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Betting on the USA election i think is too son because we do not know the major contenders as the parties are yet to choose their flag bearers except for the democrats which  we already know the flag bearer which is the person of the President. Just like football, we already know the players to be featured before the then main day of the game but here, primaries have nt brrn conducted so how do we predict who willwin the election where as the election is still very much far ahead.

Well. I personally disagree.
It is just a different kind of market for bets, it is supposed to be for those who are interested into geopolitics or the politics in the United States and also like to bet in the mid term (not only in the short term).
The odds have varied enough on candidates on both parties which it has already possible for some to cash out some of money, by odds change only.
Also, this kind of bet discussions also encourage speculation on a highly volatile political situatiom which the United States is going through. This incoming presidential election will be the most important one in the history of that country, so I do not blame anyone if they are interested on betting earlier than usual.  

It would always falls down into someones interest in the end of the day or in the end of the line which its true that there are ones who are really that interested on betting on politics and there are ones who dont really just care about these things but rather they would really be that betting on something which there's no chance that it would be sabotage. Even if we do say that presidential elections could really be that somewhat obvious
but we dont really know on how it would really be ending on, considering that issues and other possible things that could disqualify a certain candidate could really be  that possible or some explosive issues that been thrown out which would really be turning out the tides.

I  cant really just take up the risks or really that much of my forte on joining or betting on politics and this is why it is really that out of my interest.
Its true that there might be people who arent interest but there are ones who do really want to make out bets on presidential elections.

You are correct mate. Betting on politics is more of you wasting your efforts because the system can be truncated by human agents through manipulation by vote rigging and buying. In my country, elections are always manipulated and sabotaged without any remorse so let us assume this is the case, can you be comfortable and feel convenient placing bet on it? A system that is not free and fair to start with. That of US might be a free and fair outwardly but the process can be marred. Soni would not waste my resources doing such. I rather put it on a sports betting for fun than go for election bet.

In the USA, the fact that there are these corruption occupies in their electoral system, in the year that I live, yes, it is obvious that one as a person already knows that it is not worth voting for anything because things can go wrong, in fact the vote has never It has been a secret and this is something that is manifested and the government knows it, in fact I have not voted for many years, because it is not worth it, I learned that voting for politicians is of no use, op I like to assemble people in power that then forget about those who put it there, that is something that is always true in all countries, even the most prosperous ones, however when it comes to doing things to guarantee security it is very different, because It's like you say, you can see everything very transparently, but it's not known what happens at the level of data transmission and how the electric schools can do it so that things happen the way they want, because those who decide and have the most vote are the electoral colleges, which seems incredible to me.

Now, I would like to put something into context, I live in a country where corruption in voting is common, because those of that corrupt current and ideologies that seem quite stupid to me will always win, but that stained the country with it, I It seems that the USA cannot become like this, I know that everyone can see very well, they have the exception of voting through their emails, but the issue is the transmission of data can be used to change everything, and give results that They are not correct, and this seems to me that something like this happening in the USA is incredible, because in a third world country like the one I am in it is normal, however it should not be my third world country, but thanks to the politicians or It is, because it is a very rich country, but the USA has everything to prevent this from happening and they must do something so that it does not become something bad, in itself I have never liked politics

[Yogee]

Kennedy will not get more than 2 percent of the votes, pools could show whatever but he has absolutely no chance of getting anything more than 2. They may say his name now, but when it comes to actual voting people like to vote on people that have a chance to win, we all know that he has no chance of winning and that means people will not vote on someone who has guarantee of losing the election.

That's a more realistic approach and I agree. It's picking who is the lesser evil between the two winnable candidates most of the times. There may be people that would vote idealistically but I think their numbers are insignificant.

He will get max 2% and the rest will be between Biden and Trump, they were both terrible presidents so people will not vote much if you ask me, they will not care, whoever wins, USA loses.

I don't know about a lower voter turn out.

Both have big issues but I think more Americans with regular jobs and small or medium businesses prefer not to have their income taxes drained and funneled to other countries for proxy wars.

[Hirose UK]

Kennedy's entry as an independent has complicated things. Recent polls have shown him with support ranging from 9 to 22 points. The most important thing is that Biden is leading in almost all the polls where Kennedy is also there. Only one poll from Harvard-Harris has shown Trump in the lead. The most recent poll from USA Today/Suffolk has Trump and Biden in tie, when Kennedy and West are also given as option. When only Kennedy is there, then Biden is having a clear lead. All that said, I am not sure whether these trends are going to hold.

The support generated from opinion polls like this can never be guarantee of being able to see who is really superior when the election is held later but several parties have trusted or used opinion polls as way to determine or calculate the support that person has every candidate.
In several countries with presidential system of government with elections by popular vote opinion polls are only used as a form of competition in overthrowing each other.
I sure this is temporary and will change over time.

From what each candidate has had and conveyed during the campaign it is clear that only Trump and Biden are the strongest candidates and have the potential to have tight competition to win the election.
But if you take into account the enthusiasm of supporters in each camp as whole Trump is still in the lead by having the most supporters.

[Hispo]

I thought Pence would have had more success or able to accumulate votes as Trump became mired in court business rather then pulling in votes.    Sadly not the entire party seems to be consumed with either Trump or personality politics which Pence did not have a large amount of in prospect apparently.
  For the moment I dont see a great opponent to Trump from within his own party and that probably means the republican's win overall is not competitive enough to garner mainstream votes and win but thats too early to call.   Im not inspired to think an outside bet will come through at present.

In a world and a context where the Republican party stayed for what it used stand for, Mike Pence would have gotten more support than Trump. If you have been reading about Politics for long enough then you would realize that this generation of Republican lawmakers are simply unrecognizable from what the generation of Bush was. Trump would have been ridiculed and excluded from the run back then (as he was in his previous presidential campaigns).

Mike represented part of the sanity Republicans from the past would have expected to see leading the polls, but the average Republican voter is so far gone into the Donal Trump rabbit hole of stolen elections and populisms, that they do not want sanity to rule the party anymore, it is a pretty sad situation for anyone who consider themselves to be conservative.

[o48o]

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From what each candidate has had and conveyed during the campaign it is clear that only Trump and Biden are the strongest candidates and have the potential to have tight competition to win the election.
But if you take into account the enthusiasm of supporters in each camp as whole Trump is still in the lead by having the most supporters.

I hope it's neither of them and that new player enters to the race, that has enough energy, vision, brains, it could be young but for some weird reason US is now heavily on older granpas. Maybe US citizens need a dad figure so badly, that they need to elect one, but it needs to be older then allmost all the voters for that to work.

Ideally that new player would be someone who unites the country rather then divides it. Things seem way too polarized, but i don't know, maybe it's healthy to voice strong feelings out loud and it just looks like a mess to overseas. After all that's how you fix in unhealty relationships as well. Things get heated before they get resolved. That heating just seem to be happening not just in nation level, but in a world level. World is in the middle of change, hopefully this leads to stronger and more united world in the end. But i am afraid hat things probably get worse before they can get better. I am afraid to even ponder what that worse would look like at the current mayhem.

Pete Buttigieg would be great presidental candinate, but then again, he might be better off working where he is doing right now.

[Betwrong]

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Trump may be gaining steam and momentum, as so many predicted it could happen. In a normal world, we would agree those indictments would have ended his political career, but not in this bizarre context, he is getting more popular.

Well, the world has been like this for many thousands of years. People sympathize with the martyrs. Why? Because it's in our genes. Because those who didn't have this trait have died out more than a million years ago. Compassionate people are those who have survived. Now, this situation has been abused by some politicians for the last couple of millenia.
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I do not think Trump is seeking to become a martyr, he seems more interested on continuing to be a leader. He does not want to face defeat in the hands of the legal system of the United States of America.
Rather than a martyr, his opposition has compared him to a cult leader, someone who is not supposed to be questioned and someone who is secretly doing good deeds against the "deep state".
And since he is not an idiot when comes to politics and Public Relationships, he does not miss the opportunity to capitalize on it.

Also, since some codefendants have started to flip on him on the RICO case within Georgia, I would have expected his odds to be affected by it, I have not checked yet, I am more interested on the polling.

Regardless of what he's seeking, Trump is a martyr in the eyes of his supporters. How would he get such popularity otherwise? "not an idiot"? Many people would argue with that, I can assure you. Right now Trump is ahead:



The question is, for how long. Seriously, I think his chances of being elected are close to zero. I mean, it will be more obvious when we are closer to the elections.

[davis196]

I think that Kennedy Jr. is simply a puppet by the Democratic party. He's views are pretty similar to the views of Donald Trump and he will run as an independent candidate in order to steal votes from Trump. This will benefit Biden and the Democrats, but it won't be enough for them to win.
My prediction is that Trump will become president, but they will put him in prison, so the USA will become the first country, which has an elected president, who runs the administration from prison. The Democrats made a big mistake by turning Donald Trump into a martyr.