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October 30, 2023, 07:33:11 AM |
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As you all will say that Still there is almost 1 and half year away for USA elections but still I want to highlight this option because here there will be almost in millions of bets that people will do and also that's based on speculations and also someone's interest. I think that this could be one of the biggest Bets we can see because a whole world Knows america and it's superpower and it's has international recognization because of it's influence to the whole world. So what are your speculations over this USA elections. And I know that everybody has their own speculations and also wins and also loose. So let's see what will happen?
I may not partaking in US election betting because I hate politics and I am not a fan though I believe last US election I cast a bet but only a hundred bucks but I fail(this only happens because I was dare by my cousin to bet against Him ) and now in this one I already turn Him down for a rematch. But lets see if I find it interesting whom will be the opponent of Biden , another thing is that I am not even betting in my country's election so why will I need to risk my money in them , I may enjoy loving using my money in Football or in Boxing game that I can have more enjoyment and have better views who might win ..
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October 30, 2023, 07:48:00 AM |
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Today I just read the news Mike Pence has put his presidential run for 2024 on hold, which basically means he has decided to give up on his big political aspirations, in my opinion. Obviously, most of us knew that Mike has little to no chance of winning this race and defeat his former boss Donald Trump, but there is no doubt in my mind that there must be some daring bettors out there who threw a few bucks at Mike Penke in hopes of getting a big multiplier in 2024 or cashout when they had the chance to do so.
In other News, it seems Halley is about to surpass DeSantis in the polls, if so I would expect her to start to get more sponsors and donors, not like it mattered, to me the Republican nomination race is over.
It's also probable that this new candidate was added for some reason that is not too obvious, for example, to extract votes from other candidate, or to make more polarized the opinion of people, etc. These days politics is a very sophisticated game that runs very deep, and it would be naive to think that whatever is being presented is just a direct thing. Even the timing of the events is carefully planned, so we will have to see what's the effect of this nomination.
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October 30, 2023, 10:08:27 AM |
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Today I just read the news Mike Pence has put his presidential run for 2024 on hold, which basically means he has decided to give up on his big political aspirations, in my opinion. Obviously, most of us knew that Mike has little to no chance of winning this race and defeat his former boss Donald Trump, but there is no doubt in my mind that there must be some daring bettors out there who threw a few bucks at Mike Penke in hopes of getting a big multiplier in 2024 or cashout when they had the chance to do so.
In other News, it seems Halley is about to surpass DeSantis in the polls, if so I would expect her to start to get more sponsors and donors, not like it mattered, to me the Republican nomination race is over.
It's also probable that this new candidate was added for some reason that is not too obvious, for example, to extract votes from other candidate, or to make more polarized the opinion of people, etc. These days politics is a very sophisticated game that runs very deep, and it would be naive to think that whatever is being presented is just a direct thing. Even the timing of the events is carefully planned, so we will have to see what's the effect of this nomination. It is indeed possible there was some underground planification and purpose for the candidacy of Mike to happen. My guess is that he was supposed to drain votes from Trump somehow, by using his side of the story on what happened in the capitol back in January 6th. Though, Trump was intelligent enough to demonize Pence in front of Republican voters, so the effect of Pence within the run was neglectable. Mike probably realized this and since donors were not further interested in him, he decided to withdraw from his bid for the presidency.
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October 30, 2023, 11:32:22 PM |
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Betting on the USA election i think is too son because we do not know the major contenders as the parties are yet to choose their flag bearers except for the democrats which we already know the flag bearer which is the person of the President. Just like football, we already know the players to be featured before the then main day of the game but here, primaries have nt brrn conducted so how do we predict who willwin the election where as the election is still very much far ahead.
Well. I personally disagree. It is just a different kind of market for bets, it is supposed to be for those who are interested into geopolitics or the politics in the United States and also like to bet in the mid term (not only in the short term). The odds have varied enough on candidates on both parties which it has already possible for some to cash out some of money, by odds change only. Also, this kind of bet discussions also encourage speculation on a highly volatile political situatiom which the United States is going through. This incoming presidential election will be the most important one in the history of that country, so I do not blame anyone if they are interested on betting earlier than usual. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It would always falls down into someones interest in the end of the day or in the end of the line which its true that there are ones who are really that interested on betting on politics and there are ones who dont really just care about these things but rather they would really be that betting on something which there's no chance that it would be sabotage. Even if we do say that presidential elections could really be that somewhat obvious but we dont really know on how it would really be ending on, considering that issues and other possible things that could disqualify a certain candidate could really be that possible or some explosive issues that been thrown out which would really be turning out the tides. I cant really just take up the risks or really that much of my forte on joining or betting on politics and this is why it is really that out of my interest. Its true that there might be people who arent interest but there are ones who do really want to make out bets on presidential elections. You are correct mate. Betting on politics is more of you wasting your efforts because the system can be truncated by human agents through manipulation by vote rigging and buying. In my country, elections are always manipulated and sabotaged without any remorse so let us assume this is the case, can you be comfortable and feel convenient placing bet on it? A system that is not free and fair to start with. That of US might be a free and fair outwardly but the process can be marred. Soni would not waste my resources doing such. I rather put it on a sports betting for fun than go for election bet. In the USA, the fact that there are these corruption occupies in their electoral system, in the year that I live, yes, it is obvious that one as a person already knows that it is not worth voting for anything because things can go wrong, in fact the vote has never It has been a secret and this is something that is manifested and the government knows it, in fact I have not voted for many years, because it is not worth it, I learned that voting for politicians is of no use, op I like to assemble people in power that then forget about those who put it there, that is something that is always true in all countries, even the most prosperous ones, however when it comes to doing things to guarantee security it is very different, because It's like you say, you can see everything very transparently, but it's not known what happens at the level of data transmission and how the electric schools can do it so that things happen the way they want, because those who decide and have the most vote are the electoral colleges, which seems incredible to me. Now, I would like to put something into context, I live in a country where corruption in voting is common, because those of that corrupt current and ideologies that seem quite stupid to me will always win, but that stained the country with it, I It seems that the USA cannot become like this, I know that everyone can see very well, they have the exception of voting through their emails, but the issue is the transmission of data can be used to change everything, and give results that They are not correct, and this seems to me that something like this happening in the USA is incredible, because in a third world country like the one I am in it is normal, however it should not be my third world country, but thanks to the politicians or It is, because it is a very rich country, but the USA has everything to prevent this from happening and they must do something so that it does not become something bad, in itself I have never liked politics In my country, the talk of voting is becoming more boring because over the years, elections have been marred by the powers that be and vote does not count. They are only interested in just fulfilling all form of righteousness when it comes to electoral laws but they already have their candidate who already have his or her way to power. So anybody Voting is likely wasting his or her time as they want to use it to complement the ones they look into. Voting is more of one wasting his or her time here in my country as the politicians and power that be hi jack the whole process as time goes on. So you can see how it is to get involved to gambling and how to goes.
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October 31, 2023, 02:29:16 AM |
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I think that Kennedy Jr. is simply a puppet by the Democratic party. He's views are pretty similar to the views of Donald Trump and he will run as an independent candidate in order to steal votes from Trump. This will benefit Biden and the Democrats, but it won't be enough for them to win. My prediction is that Trump will become president, but they will put him in prison, so the USA will become the first country, which has an elected president, who runs the administration from prison. The Democrats made a big mistake by turning Donald Trump into a martyr. Too early to make assumptions. If Kennedy runs as an independent, he is more likely to get votes from people who would otherwise refrain from voting. From the recent opinion polls, I could see that he is hurting Trump more than Biden, but the margin is not as big as we would have imagined. It is more lke 30% Trump votes, 20% Biden votes and 50% neutral votes. But as the race tightens, third party candidates will get more and more unpopular. And the 2024 POTUS elections are likely to become very polarized due to the prevailing political atmosphere within the United States.
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November 01, 2023, 04:55:47 PM |
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I think that Kennedy Jr. is simply a puppet by the Democratic party. He's views are pretty similar to the views of Donald Trump and he will run as an independent candidate in order to steal votes from Trump. This will benefit Biden and the Democrats, but it won't be enough for them to win. My prediction is that Trump will become president, but they will put him in prison, so the USA will become the first country, which has an elected president, who runs the administration from prison. The Democrats made a big mistake by turning Donald Trump into a martyr. Too early to make assumptions. If Kennedy runs as an independent, he is more likely to get votes from people who would otherwise refrain from voting. From the recent opinion polls, I could see that he is hurting Trump more than Biden, but the margin is not as big as we would have imagined. It is more lke 30% Trump votes, 20% Biden votes and 50% neutral votes. But as the race tightens, third party candidates will get more and more unpopular. And the 2024 POTUS elections are likely to become very polarized due to the prevailing political atmosphere within the United States. I believe it is an understatement to say these incoming elections will be "polarizing" or "very polarizing", I am among the people who believe the United States of America could change as a country after this election, depending on what happens and what the people end up choosing. And to be honest, Kennedy makes harder to bet on Trump, if Kennedy had not showed to be appealing for Republican voters then I would dare to out some bucks on Trump as the winner, because, whether we like it or not, he still a strong grasp on the average voter. Kennedy being part of the plans from the Democrat party to spoil Trump's run is nothing crazy to assume, election tricks are not exclusive from the right wing in the USA.
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November 01, 2023, 08:21:37 PM |
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I think that Kennedy Jr. is simply a puppet by the Democratic party. He's views are pretty similar to the views of Donald Trump and he will run as an independent candidate in order to steal votes from Trump. This will benefit Biden and the Democrats, but it won't be enough for them to win. My prediction is that Trump will become president, but they will put him in prison, so the USA will become the first country, which has an elected president, who runs the administration from prison. The Democrats made a big mistake by turning Donald Trump into a martyr. Too early to make assumptions. If Kennedy runs as an independent, he is more likely to get votes from people who would otherwise refrain from voting. From the recent opinion polls, I could see that he is hurting Trump more than Biden, but the margin is not as big as we would have imagined. It is more lke 30% Trump votes, 20% Biden votes and 50% neutral votes. But as the race tightens, third party candidates will get more and more unpopular. And the 2024 POTUS elections are likely to become very polarized due to the prevailing political atmosphere within the United States. The bad side of all this games and it effect on Trump and Kennedy votes is that it will be two against one since Trump and Kennedy will be sharing the votes and the rulling bagging out the remaining votes, ant we going to see a more Biden time if this current speculations plays out as thoughts, this mechanism of vite dividing have been one of fhs strong political tools in current democratic process. And those politicians that have the clear understanding of that have managed to stay ahead of the counterparts and most time, the ruling party is the one at advantage, hust like in this case, Biden already have a 50% while the remaining 50% will ve divided by both Trump and Kennedy, according to the poll.
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November 01, 2023, 11:20:59 PM |
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a puppet by the Democratic party. He's views are pretty similar to the views of Donald Trump So both are democrat and Trump used to be registered as one so I guess its all viable but I doubt its the case. There are significant reasons to disagree with Trump and for Trump not to run at all if Republicans want to win the actual election. His own former VP has no support for Trump, many see that campaign as a negative for the party political control and success in forthcoming elections so thats their own party not the opposition. Mainstream or swing votes are not going to go towards Trump this time, he isnt very likely to win at all without some support from those people who do not see themselves as Democrat or Republican just tax payers. If he cannot get these middle voters then its a doomed mission and its Trump blocking all the other candidates viability.
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November 02, 2023, 03:08:10 AM |
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The bad side of all this games and it effect on Trump and Kennedy votes is that it will be two against one since Trump and Kennedy will be sharing the votes and the rulling bagging out the remaining votes, ant we going to see a more Biden time if this current speculations plays out as thoughts, this mechanism of vite dividing have been one of fhs strong political tools in current democratic process.
And those politicians that have the clear understanding of that have managed to stay ahead of the counterparts and most time, the ruling party is the one at advantage, hust like in this case, Biden already have a 50% while the remaining 50% will ve divided by both Trump and Kennedy, according to the poll.
No... that's not what the polls say. I agree that Kennedy is more likely to hurt Trump. But it is not all black and white. The Messenger/HarrisX released an opinion poll a few hours back. It has Trump ahead by a massive 6 points. The voting pattern is as follows: https://themessenger.com/politics/poll-trump-continues-to-lead-biden-exclusiveTrump: 44% Biden: 38% Kennedy: 14% West: 4% Many of the other opinion polls released recently also show the same pattern. Biden's votes are declining to high 30s from mid 40s that he enjoyed before Kennedy announced his candidature. A significant number of Democrats seems to be shifting to Kennedy and it's not just the GOP voters. There are centrist Democrat voters who are not comfortable with voting for Trump. Such voters are preferring Kennedy now. BTW, another poll from Harvard-Harris last week also showed Trump with a huge lead (Despite Kennedy polling 21%). https://harvardharrispoll.com/key-results-october-4/Trump: 41% Biden: 34% Kennedy: 21% West: 3%
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If anyone actually believes that Kennedy will be getting that kind of votes, they have absolutely no idea how the votes has been in the last 50 years of the American elections. Just get that idea out of your head because it is not going to be anywhere near that level. The maximum amount of votes he will be getting could be 2% or 3 at best, nothing more than that.
Just realize that it is going to be either Trump or Biden and both will get 40% votes. Not that it's known who is going to get it, people realized when they saw how Trump ruled the nation, they would rather have Biden and when they saw Biden they may say they would rather Trump, in the end one thing is reality; both of them are horrible and all of the nation would prefer if there was someone more decent. I mean it is not even republican or democrat anymore, it is literally down to the person, it is about Trump and Biden, not democrat vs republican anymore, even a decent republican would get votes from democrats and vice versa.
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I think that Kennedy Jr. is simply a puppet by the Democratic party. He's views are pretty similar to the views of Donald Trump and he will run as an independent candidate in order to steal votes from Trump. This will benefit Biden and the Democrats, but it won't be enough for them to win. My prediction is that Trump will become president, but they will put him in prison, so the USA will become the first country, which has an elected president, who runs the administration from prison. The Democrats made a big mistake by turning Donald Trump into a martyr. Too early to make assumptions. If Kennedy runs as an independent, he is more likely to get votes from people who would otherwise refrain from voting. From the recent opinion polls, I could see that he is hurting Trump more than Biden, but the margin is not as big as we would have imagined. It is more lke 30% Trump votes, 20% Biden votes and 50% neutral votes. But as the race tightens, third party candidates will get more and more unpopular. And the 2024 POTUS elections are likely to become very polarized due to the prevailing political atmosphere within the United States. For me these things are very strong, on the one hand there is Trump who despite all his problems is doing very well, I consider that this Lord has had many accusations of all kinds this year, I think it has been a very stormy year for This being, however, I have been thinking that politics in the USA has gotten a little out of control, it is no longer like before, where everything was done in a very diplomatic way, now they are taking the cutlutra of saying and doing many things, of cheating, because I believe that some politicians have used their influence and their powers to put Treump against the system, I'm just saying something, if Trump becomes President, what will happen to those institutions, judges who agreed to make all those accusations to Trump where some I know are false, so what are you doing with those people? they will go? will they resign? io Trump will be able to face the country like dishonest people? This is in the event that Trump wins. Kenedy's case could be very strong, for me he is one of the best candidates, in fact his last name is one of the most important in the USA, where all of his rulers have not done very well in their mandates, because they died young or in power, I think that this will be a very good contest, the case of Trump as well as other politicians can be quite strong, because I have seen that they no longer respect each other and they throw each other or whatever and whatever the other defends themselves, this It's like politics in third world countries where basically things have to happen in other ways, where they risk their lives and can even risk their own lives, because politics is like that, when it's carried out at the level. of disrespect and cheating, of dirty games, it seems incredible to me that politics in the USA is reaching these novices, here where I live and one is used to politicians being like that, but really a country like the USA is difficult, this wants to say that when we are Reaching a level of power where they want to obtain it no matter what.
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If anyone actually believes that Kennedy will be getting that kind of votes, they have absolutely no idea how the votes has been in the last 50 years of the American elections. Just get that idea out of your head because it is not going to be anywhere near that level. The maximum amount of votes he will be getting could be 2% or 3 at best, nothing more than that.
Just realize that it is going to be either Trump or Biden and both will get 40% votes. Not that it's known who is going to get it, people realized when they saw how Trump ruled the nation, they would rather have Biden and when they saw Biden they may say they would rather Trump, in the end one thing is reality; both of them are horrible and all of the nation would prefer if there was someone more decent. I mean it is not even republican or democrat anymore, it is literally down to the person, it is about Trump and Biden, not democrat vs republican anymore, even a decent republican would get votes from democrats and vice versa.
Even if Kennedy only ends up having a small percentage of the votes as an independent candidate, it is still pretty much relevant to the outcome of this incoming election. In the end, whether we like it or not, this election will end up being decided by least than 20000 people living in swing states, because states like California, New York or Connecticut already are being taken for granted by democrats. States like Texas and Florida are being taken for granted by Republicans, swing states are key and if Kennedy can deviate a 2-3% of votes which could have been initially intended to go for Trump, then that small percentage could boost the chances for Biden to win his re-election bid. It is a weird system, because it implies the vote of the people are worth more or less depending on where they live, but it is what it is.
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Its the voting system of the union and it makes sense in that context but purely divided by the population nothing else then its obviously a deviation from pure democracy by number of votes alone. Its there for a reason though and probably stays despite the confusion on every election its been that way for a long time. Alter that system and probably it requires a reevaluation of the union similarly which many wont want to open that particular box and suffer endless arguments and disruption, I dont see it happening. Considering his starting point, the large percentage for Kennedy is quite surprising maybe he can build from there.
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Its the voting system of the union and it makes sense in that context but purely divided by the population nothing else then its obviously a deviation from pure democracy by number of votes alone. Its there for a reason though and probably stays despite the confusion on every election its been that way for a long time. Alter that system and probably it requires a reevaluation of the union similarly which many wont want to open that particular box and suffer endless arguments and disruption, I dont see it happening. Considering his starting point, the large percentage for Kennedy is quite surprising maybe he can build from there.
I believe it has been argued before that democrats would be in favor of eliminating the electoral voter system of the United States and replace it with a direct voting system, it would be greatly in benefit of their party. Usually, Republicans do not agree with that position, it would mean the power of the elections would be held in big cities, which tend to be democrat. Also, in a recent polling, it seems that in a third way run, Kennedy would be able to secure up to the 22% of the voters, being most of them from the Republican party, or better said, from people who identify themselves as Republican but are not willing to vote for Trump. It makes me wonder whether Trump would be willing to pay a good chunk of money to Kennedy so he withdraws from the presidencial run or not. I do not even know that is legal, by the way.
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I think that Kennedy Jr. is simply a puppet by the Democratic party. He's views are pretty similar to the views of Donald Trump and he will run as an independent candidate in order to steal votes from Trump. This will benefit Biden and the Democrats, but it won't be enough for them to win. My prediction is that Trump will become president, but they will put him in prison, so the USA will become the first country, which has an elected president, who runs the administration from prison. The Democrats made a big mistake by turning Donald Trump into a martyr. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I'm wondering if that's possible, to be honest. In my opinion a President sitting in prison is something incompatible with reality. So, don't bet on Trump, guys, because you are going to lose your bets. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Because it is very likely that he is going to prison sooner or later.
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I think that Kennedy Jr. is simply a puppet by the Democratic party. He's views are pretty similar to the views of Donald Trump and he will run as an independent candidate in order to steal votes from Trump. This will benefit Biden and the Democrats, but it won't be enough for them to win. My prediction is that Trump will become president, but they will put him in prison, so the USA will become the first country, which has an elected president, who runs the administration from prison. The Democrats made a big mistake by turning Donald Trump into a martyr. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I'm wondering if that's possible, to be honest. In my opinion a President sitting in prison is something incompatible with reality. So, don't bet on Trump, guys, because you are going to lose your bets. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Because it is very likely that he is going to prison sooner or later. Trump is not likely to be the president while being in prison, actually, he is running for his second term because he knows that being the president of the United States will likely save him from having to step into a federal prison in the short and midterm. Also, it is very likely prosecutors won't have much of a case to keep the president in a cell. Even if procesutor lawyers tried to wait for Trump to end his second term before enforcing the sentencing, I bet Trump will try to build a strong case during those 4 years in power, in order to never pay for the alleged crimes he committed. The USA would only ashame itself if they allowed someone to run the presidency from a cell during 4 years, how would be Trump even able to meet with other leaders in that position, as a inmate?
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Yesterday NY Times/Siena released POTUS opinion polls for several swing states. Trump is having a large lead over Biden in many of these states. But the catch here is that they didn't put Kennedy and West as the options. So it was a direct poll between Trump and Biden. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/us/politics/biden-trump-2024-poll.htmlTrump is leading in 5 of the swing states (Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, Georgia and Nevada), while Biden is leading in Wisconsin. Georgia: Trump 49, Biden 43 Pennsylvania: Trump 48, Biden 44 Michigan: Trump 48, Biden 43 Wisconsin: Trump 45, Biden 47 Nevada: Trump 52, Biden 41 Arizona: Trump 49, Biden 44
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I believe it has been argued before that democrats would be in favor of eliminating the electoral voter system of the United States and replace it with a direct voting system, it would be greatly in benefit of their party. Usually, Republicans do not agree with that position, it would mean the power of the elections would be held in big cities, which tend to be democrat.
Also, in a recent polling, it seems that in a third way run, Kennedy would be able to secure up to the 22% of the voters, being most of them from the Republican party, or better said, from people who identify themselves as Republican but are not willing to vote for Trump. It makes me wonder whether Trump would be willing to pay a good chunk of money to Kennedy so he withdraws from the presidencial run or not. I do not even know that is legal, by the way.
That is exactly what the result will be and yet some republicans still think that they would have some choice. In reality it is not, if the result goes to just popular vote winner, that would be insane and the result would be democrat winner every single time without a doubt. The only reason why Republicans are getting any votes at all, not just in presidency but even at congress and senate, is the drawing of the states that they know very well to do. Look at the situation at most states and you will realize that the map is drawn in a way that would give the republicans the best chance. Democrats are stupid when it comes to elections, the yare not really all that smart enough to redraw the map and get all the wins when they have the power to do it.
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Betting on the USA election i think is too son because we do not know the major contenders as the parties are yet to choose their flag bearers except for the democrats which we already know the flag bearer which is the person of the President. Just like football, we already know the players to be featured before the then main day of the game but here, primaries have nt brrn conducted so how do we predict who willwin the election where as the election is still very much far ahead.
Well. I personally disagree. It is just a different kind of market for bets, it is supposed to be for those who are interested into geopolitics or the politics in the United States and also like to bet in the mid term (not only in the short term). The odds have varied enough on candidates on both parties which it has already possible for some to cash out some of money, by odds change only. Also, this kind of bet discussions also encourage speculation on a highly volatile political situatiom which the United States is going through. This incoming presidential election will be the most important one in the history of that country, so I do not blame anyone if they are interested on betting earlier than usual. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It would always falls down into someones interest in the end of the day or in the end of the line which its true that there are ones who are really that interested on betting on politics and there are ones who dont really just care about these things but rather they would really be that betting on something which there's no chance that it would be sabotage. Even if we do say that presidential elections could really be that somewhat obvious but we dont really know on how it would really be ending on, considering that issues and other possible things that could disqualify a certain candidate could really be that possible or some explosive issues that been thrown out which would really be turning out the tides. I cant really just take up the risks or really that much of my forte on joining or betting on politics and this is why it is really that out of my interest. Its true that there might be people who arent interest but there are ones who do really want to make out bets on presidential elections. You are correct mate. Betting on politics is more of you wasting your efforts because the system can be truncated by human agents through manipulation by vote rigging and buying. In my country, elections are always manipulated and sabotaged without any remorse so let us assume this is the case, can you be comfortable and feel convenient placing bet on it? A system that is not free and fair to start with. That of US might be a free and fair outwardly but the process can be marred. Soni would not waste my resources doing such. I rather put it on a sports betting for fun than go for election bet. In the USA, the fact that there are these corruption occupies in their electoral system, in the year that I live, yes, it is obvious that one as a person already knows that it is not worth voting for anything because things can go wrong, in fact the vote has never It has been a secret and this is something that is manifested and the government knows it, in fact I have not voted for many years, because it is not worth it, I learned that voting for politicians is of no use, op I like to assemble people in power that then forget about those who put it there, that is something that is always true in all countries, even the most prosperous ones, however when it comes to doing things to guarantee security it is very different, because It's like you say, you can see everything very transparently, but it's not known what happens at the level of data transmission and how the electric schools can do it so that things happen the way they want, because those who decide and have the most vote are the electoral colleges, which seems incredible to me. Now, I would like to put something into context, I live in a country where corruption in voting is common, because those of that corrupt current and ideologies that seem quite stupid to me will always win, but that stained the country with it, I It seems that the USA cannot become like this, I know that everyone can see very well, they have the exception of voting through their emails, but the issue is the transmission of data can be used to change everything, and give results that They are not correct, and this seems to me that something like this happening in the USA is incredible, because in a third world country like the one I am in it is normal, however it should not be my third world country, but thanks to the politicians or It is, because it is a very rich country, but the USA has everything to prevent this from happening and they must do something so that it does not become something bad, in itself I have never liked politics In my country, the talk of voting is becoming more boring because over the years, elections have been marred by the powers that be and vote does not count. They are only interested in just fulfilling all form of righteousness when it comes to electoral laws but they already have their candidate who already have his or her way to power. So anybody Voting is likely wasting his or her time as they want to use it to complement the ones they look into. Voting is more of one wasting his or her time here in my country as the politicians and power that be hi jack the whole process as time goes on. So you can see how it is to get involved to gambling and how to goes. That's where you realize that policies are just about putting someone in power that doesn't benefit people in anything, what you're looking for from a government are simple things, that they ensure basic services and that There may be foreign relations, so that countries get involved in wanting to invest in the country. This is how work is generated and a country can move forward, with work, but otherwise I see no other choice but to go into an abyss, I have seen How people fight in politics, going in an ideological direction, political or not, people fight, some even kill each other, others die fighting, and they don't achieve anything, they only kill themselves for politicians who in the end don't even get buried querens had certain debts for them, that is why I see that the politicians for me are irrelevant people, who have no importance for me, regarding my country, because in my country things are like that, there is an atmosphere of polarization, of lust for power and above all of people who do not understand that politics is for them to take Power and have everyone in a more tied system. The politics of the USA catch my attention, a few years ago, the USA was not such an political country, now things have changed and I see the USA very political, very polarized, and unfortunately I see them with a great desire for power, and that It is something that is not good, it does not sound good and it will not look good, because it is a country where it has control of many countries, in terms of its economic hegemony, development, expanding relations, it is a very influential country in politics and economies. that are worldwide, that's why I see now that the Politicians here are no longer what they used to be, I see that they set traps Among themselves, some play dirty, others start to see how to get a government to work to see what things or What benefits can they have, this has become a political system very similar to the one in the country I live in and that makes me sad , I hope it's not like this all the time.
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Yesterday NY Times/Siena released POTUS opinion polls for several swing states. Trump is having a large lead over Biden in many of these states. But the catch here is that they didn't put Kennedy and West as the options. So it was a direct poll between Trump and Biden. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/us/politics/biden-trump-2024-poll.htmlTrump is leading in 5 of the swing states (Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, Georgia and Nevada), while Biden is leading in Wisconsin. Georgia: Trump 49, Biden 43 Pennsylvania: Trump 48, Biden 44 Michigan: Trump 48, Biden 43 Wisconsin: Trump 45, Biden 47 Nevada: Trump 52, Biden 41 Arizona: Trump 49, Biden 44 I Have seen some political news which tend to lean on the left politics to slighting freak out in front of the camera because the lead Trump is having in critical swing states, as far as I have seen Trump has a lead in almost all the subjects people were interviewed about: inmigration policies, economy, management of the war in the middle east, etc. The only topic where Biden defeated Trump was on the abortion rights of women, but in my opinion, the fact Trump has been able to score positively in all the rest of the subjects the American people is concerned about tell me that there is very real chance Trump could be back into the White house in 2024. I would have not expected to see people from swing states to favor Trump over Biden, to be honest, the USA economical situation seemed to be going good.
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