who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections?

[Hirose UK]

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I agree with you, pretty much. Whenever I watch some liberal media or new channel what they do to keep their voters stuck to the democrat party is to fearmonger about the possibility of Trump having a second term next year. They talk for much of their programs about the surge of white supremacy, the Trump trials and the trials of his former associates. I don't think there is something wrong about talking about those things, but they rarely talk on the legislation the Democrat party is going to take in order to talke those problems you mentioned, specially the crime surge in the United States, last night I saw a report on how criminals are targeting delivery trucks nations wide and mobs are flash-robbing stores.
At this point it would be refreshing to listen to Democrats plan to deal with all of that. If they don't, Trump will increase his chances, as he is not afraid of pushing against robbery.

It is normal for there to be competition which may not feel very ethical to do, but in democracy it is normal for each other to say their bad things to be able to bring each other down, but there are also some supporters who are so fanatical that they make fuss because they don't accept such competition.
In every country, when there is general election or general election, it is normal for there to be opinion polls that knock each other out and some of each candidate team hold broadcasts aimed at exposing the bad qualities of other candidates.
But what the Biden team did really created controversy and recently there was a split in Biden base caused by pro-Palestinian demonstrators who came to the Democrat office full of anger and chaos.
In relation to crime in the US it will never have anything to do with elections or state leaders because crime occurs due to several other factors and those who can stop it are the authorities by giving warnings or firm action such as critical punishment.

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[Hispo]

I agree with you, pretty much. Whenever I watch some liberal media or new channel what they do to keep their voters stuck to the democrat party is to fearmonger about the possibility of Trump having a second term next year. They talk for much of their programs about the surge of white supremacy, the Trump trials and the trials of his former associates. I don't think there is something wrong about talking about those things, but they rarely talk on the legislation the Democrat party is going to take in order to talke those problems you mentioned, specially the crime surge in the United States, last night I saw a report on how criminals are targeting delivery trucks nations wide and mobs are flash-robbing stores.
At this point it would be refreshing to listen to Democrats plan to deal with all of that. If they don't, Trump will increase his chances, as he is not afraid of pushing against robbery.

Minorities want jobs and good economy. Fearmongering is not going to help. One area where the Biden administration has failed is to control the crime rate. Crime rates have gone up in inner city areas and this has forced businesses to move to the suburbs which are better guarded by the police. As a result, a lot of people have lost their jobs. Only section of the society who have remained loyal to the Democrat Party are wealthy white liberals, who live in gated communities in their colossal bungalows, away from the immigrant influx and crime.

Yeah, I agree there is much hypocrisy and problems within the democrat party, it would be easier for the Republican party to win over the Democrat party if they did not choose Trump as their leader and current head of the party. If the Republican party remained as it used to be back in the 2000s or mid 2010, when their politics were about conservatism instead of the ideas of Trump, then the Democrat party would be in trouble, facing a more coherent and moderate republican party.

[LUCKMCFLY]

It is normal for there to be competition which may not feel very ethical to do, but in democracy it is normal for each other to say their bad things to be able to bring each other down, but there are also some supporters who are so fanatical that they make fuss because they don't accept such competition.
In every country, when there is general election or general election, it is normal for there to be opinion polls that knock each other out and some of each candidate team hold broadcasts aimed at exposing the bad qualities of other candidates.
But what the Biden team did really created controversy and recently there was a split in Biden base caused by pro-Palestinian demonstrators who came to the Democrat office full of anger and chaos.
In relation to crime in the US it will never have anything to do with elections or state leaders because crime occurs due to several other factors and those who can stop it are the authorities by giving warnings or firm action such as critical punishment.

It's true, or I know, but there are people who have a wrong idea about this, because when it comes to politics, they believe that Presidents and government Policies are going to focus on reducing the crime that exists in a country, or things simlilares, it is not like that, and although they have everything to be able to generate the best of all the Security of the hands , we must look at other things that are more focused on the good, for example the proeblmande always being the economic one, inflation as high as there is, of how the FED is capable of no longer supporting the makeup that exists, then these are things that can manifest themselves, if in this order of Ideas we are going to think that this big country can handle everything and that Things work out as many of us believe, but that is no longer the case, politics in the USA is very similar to that of South America , it is actually very dirty, among the politicians themselves there is very bad anger, they wage war among themselves. , there is no fair game, I think that ideas are something that has Disappeared, for me the candidates from the USA only look for pioder.

They do not care about the common good of any of their inhabitants, only reaching power to be able to dominate, that is what I see, that is why in the US things are not like before, even though it is a country where it is seen that economy is very strong, and they are the maximum in their hegemony. The truth is that at any moment the Bubble that is your economy could burst again, I don't see that there is much confidence , as soon as you see what happens between the behavior of the USD vs Eur one can draw conclusions, and they are not good, I really don't I like what the dollar is doing so far, that's why I want to see the things that can be generated, now when we think that the USA has strong immigration policies, there are none , there is a strong problem especially in New York With this, how could one of those candidates fix that problem? without Deporting.

[ChiBitCTy]

I agree with you, pretty much. Whenever I watch some liberal media or new channel what they do to keep their voters stuck to the democrat party is to fearmonger about the possibility of Trump having a second term next year. They talk for much of their programs about the surge of white supremacy, the Trump trials and the trials of his former associates. I don't think there is something wrong about talking about those things, but they rarely talk on the legislation the Democrat party is going to take in order to talke those problems you mentioned, specially the crime surge in the United States, last night I saw a report on how criminals are targeting delivery trucks nations wide and mobs are flash-robbing stores.
At this point it would be refreshing to listen to Democrats plan to deal with all of that. If they don't, Trump will increase his chances, as he is not afraid of pushing against robbery.

Minorities want jobs and good economy. Fearmongering is not going to help. One area where the Biden administration has failed is to control the crime rate. Crime rates have gone up in inner city areas and this has forced businesses to move to the suburbs which are better guarded by the police. As a result, a lot of people have lost their jobs. Only section of the society who have remained loyal to the Democrat Party are wealthy white liberals, who live in gated communities in their colossal bungalows, away from the immigrant influx and crime.

Yeah, I agree there is much hypocrisy and problems within the democrat party, it would be easier for the Republican party to win over the Democrat party if they did not choose Trump as their leader and current head of the party. If the Republican party remained as it used to be back in the 2000s or mid 2010, when their politics were about conservatism instead of the ideas of Trump, then the Democrat party would be in trouble, facing a more coherent and moderate republican party.

The same thing goes for the Democratic party.  Joe Biden may be more well liked within that party than Trump is in his party (the Republicans), but there's still a lot of Americans who can't stand either President (myself included).  Because our politics are insanely corrupt and ran by morons, there looks to be no doubt these two are the choices once again. smh

As for voting, I just have no clue how this thing is going to go.  I thought Clinton was going to smoke Trump and bet on her, and where did that get me.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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This is incredible, because most of us have always seen the USA as a clearly developed country in all senses, this is something that could help a lot to make others believe that this country can make a difference in the world, if we put our minds to it. Let's see, the world economy is given because the entire world economy is given by a clear hegemony of the dollar, every advance and every category that has to do with economic progress. The first Indicator is the dollar, so based on this, we realize that the USA It has many economic activities, because for what their economy is currently, they have clear inflation, people know that to make a good market you need more than 500usd and this in comparing just a few years with 100usd the things that could be There were many changes, this without taking into consideration the services that I have also been told are cheap, so I believe that this high cost of living is due to that very thing, how expensive this is becoming.

With respect to politics, they have a tone that is becoming very fierce , they are already resembling the policies and actions of my country where it is being shown that the oldness for power is too much, and that is not good, for one thing. On the other hand , I think that they are waging a lot of war on Trump, whether it is true or false about the accusations that have been made against him, it seems that the same politicians are putting him in trouble and that I consider to be playing very dirty, and something that I have Expectations about It's when politicians play dirty against others, because I live in a country where being a politician guarantees you a full life because what they do is be very corrupt, and that apparently is what generates more money , money that they blatantly steal, and even though This is not the case in the USA, I see that there is a lot of fighting for power, and perhaps people see that and do not want things to turn out the way They want , surely the president who Remains will have strong protests..

It's good to remember that the US is just about 200 years old, and that empires far larger and greater have fallen down.

There is no guarantee that the US will always stay as a super power.

For example, Argentina used to be a rich country, top 10 in the world, and now it has a horrible inflation destroying its wealth.

In these uncertain times who knows if we are looking at the last few years of the US power.

The structural system of the USA will not let them fall like Argentina, this is because they are a business country, for them to continue generating wealth is the most important thing, while many young people from other countries in the world struggle to get a job and do not want to. creating your own business due to lack of financing, lack of good laws, high level of government corruption. In the USA, young people strive to have their own companies, to have their own businesses. It is true that in the USA young people have serious problems with lack of respect, women like to go naked, men like violence more, they have become a society in which everything that was wrong in the past

for young people in the USA it has become certain, I have seen something strange on Instagram where everything is about fighting, I talk about the zeus ( https://www.thezeusnetwork.com/ ) and you can see this on their Instagram: https:// www.instagram.com/thezeusnetwork/

Look how people like violence in the USA and I can't understand how their laws allow this, but the fact is that Americans create anything to make money. Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, all of this and the effect that I said is that Americans rush to have their own company rather than asking for jobs. Of course, not everyone will be able to own a business. That's why I doubt that Americans would be like Argentina. but the lack of respect and lack of morals and ethics has been visible in young Americans, unfortunately

Well, the truth is that in the US what is currently happening is like an Excess of Freedom for Young people, or rather they are Confusing it with debauchery, which seems to me that for everything there should be many Limits , despite everything the limits are very necessary, Even though the US is a financially stable country, or that is what they make it seem at a global level , things Should and need to have a little more control, the current Governments that have been in the US seem to me to be very liberal, they allow and give many things like being Very well and being normal for the times we are living in, I understand all that, but also in the political part I have seen a lot of dirty war, where those who are in power, I don't know if they are congressmen or people who may have bought, because they attack other Candidates , not American , but the truth is I Admire the ability that Donald Trump has to get away with the things that are accused of him so well.

I remember that one of the Problems was that Even his Lawyer betrayed him, so from my own experience in the country where I live , when many things like this happen, it is because the president will be the one who is attacked, because the Attack they give him is really strong , I couldn't think anything else, only that they are Waging a lot of war, if in Politics they went down the path that they are all more dedicated to Diplomacy and more dedicated to what it means to be in the good sense of the debtaes where each candidate choose according to what they can do because it is something that I would admire, in fact for me the USA had always been an Example country in how they had their politicians , but now I see pure desire for power, and a great desire to have Others always Cloistered there to be able to take them on a truck that is of violence, I no longer see the debtates as interesting , because they only fight among themselves, and they do not talk about how they can handle the economic problem , the Inflation that , although they make it up, is very Rampant.

[Hispo]

I agree with you, pretty much. Whenever I watch some liberal media or new channel what they do to keep their voters stuck to the democrat party is to fearmonger about the possibility of Trump having a second term next year. They talk for much of their programs about the surge of white supremacy, the Trump trials and the trials of his former associates. I don't think there is something wrong about talking about those things, but they rarely talk on the legislation the Democrat party is going to take in order to talke those problems you mentioned, specially the crime surge in the United States, last night I saw a report on how criminals are targeting delivery trucks nations wide and mobs are flash-robbing stores.
At this point it would be refreshing to listen to Democrats plan to deal with all of that. If they don't, Trump will increase his chances, as he is not afraid of pushing against robbery.

Minorities want jobs and good economy. Fearmongering is not going to help. One area where the Biden administration has failed is to control the crime rate. Crime rates have gone up in inner city areas and this has forced businesses to move to the suburbs which are better guarded by the police. As a result, a lot of people have lost their jobs. Only section of the society who have remained loyal to the Democrat Party are wealthy white liberals, who live in gated communities in their colossal bungalows, away from the immigrant influx and crime.

Yeah, I agree there is much hypocrisy and problems within the democrat party, it would be easier for the Republican party to win over the Democrat party if they did not choose Trump as their leader and current head of the party. If the Republican party remained as it used to be back in the 2000s or mid 2010, when their politics were about conservatism instead of the ideas of Trump, then the Democrat party would be in trouble, facing a more coherent and moderate republican party.

The same thing goes for the Democratic party.  Joe Biden may be more well liked within that party than Trump is in his party (the Republicans), but there's still a lot of Americans who can't stand either President (myself included).  Because our politics are insanely corrupt and ran by morons, there looks to be no doubt these two are the choices once again. smh

As for voting, I just have no clue how this thing is going to go.  I thought Clinton was going to smoke Trump and bet on her, and where did that get me.

The situation with the nomination in both the Republican and Democrat party are actually quite different. In the case of Biden, he seems to have most if the support he can ever possibly get from his party and the politicians who are part of it. On the other hand, Trump does not have the complete support of the Republican party, rather he has managed to impose himself as a nominee through his brute force and the influence he still has over the average republican voter. In the end, winning elections does not have anything to do with getting along with your fellow members of the party, is about appealing to the voters, whoever manages to control the votes, has the lead of the party.

Also, I knew there were problems within the political system of the USA, but I was never aware it was so bad as you describe, like "being controlled by morons". It is something I would expect to hear from a banana republic.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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At the end of the day it depends on the person and his faith in whatever game that is played and in this situation this person definitely has that money to spare, plus he is confident that the game is going to come through. I am the kind of person that will cashout immediately i see a tangible profit because from experience i have been in such position and thinking the game will e a success, it failed in  the last minute. not everybody is lucky enough to see a huge cash out and it come through so to me it depends on the confidence level, if i feel confident enough not to cash out i leave the game until it is completed, but if i dont i take my profit and go.

I always think that gamblers are people who have enough time and money to spare, so then they can decide whatever they want with their money. Gamblers who don't bother to cash-out when they gain big are gamblers who know to enjoy the feeling of winning while they are still there at casino. I think this how gamblers should be, the gamblers who have risk tolerance.

Gamblers who see gambling as a moment for fun is a true gambler. they are not necessitated to make decisions based on money spent or gained. but then, reality is not always how it should be. Gamblers who have enough money to spare also can be depressed because of the losses. so..
pick your poison..

That's right, because when it comes to things in a casino, the Easiest way to win is obvious through the games, but knowing how to play, that is, playing intelligently , that's why when we're playing, we have to two options: win or lose, if we like to win we will always look for a way to do it, but knowing that the system is focused on the house advantage is Something that must be considered and not forgotten, it is like stepping on land, when we play We may be in heaven, but the reality is different, a casino, as I have said on many occasions, is a company, a Business and Every business is created to always have the option of winning, above the players, a player can never be above the casino.

In this case we are the ones who decide in the end what to do in a moment of decision where we could win or lose, make a decisive bet? how would it be ? It is not known that it is only the person's jealousy, so risk before greed? Maybe, if he is an experienced player, who is careful and knows what he is doing, he doesn't play out of greed, he plays for the emotion he feels when taking risks, it is something that gives him more adrenaline, that is what he is looking for, I think Things are like that when they are players of that style, but when they are novice players , both things are present, first of all, greed and risk second, but when we are thinking About what can actually be done in a casino, the options are They have a very high bar, that is why we must Always be aware of what we do.

Whether out of greed or risk, we must be very careful with our owner, we cannot be very focused because as I have said on many occasions, without money there is no party, and that is what we must see, there is no other way, always We must see things for what they are and in every casino what matters is the money, that it does not go away but rather Multiply it.

[Betwrong]

During the last few weeks, the liberal mouthpiece of New York Times have gone ballistic and churned out half a dozen articles regarding the worsening poll numbers for Joe Biden.~

But gamblers did not react to the "worsening poll numbers" in any way



We saw those same numbers weeks ago. I think it means bettors are aware how misleading those numbers can be. You said there's a liberal campiagn ging on right now. Let's see how the nubers will change after that, like in a month, shall we?

But rather than looking into the actual issues, they are still trying to look through the lens of propaganda and predefined beliefs. IMO, younger and non-white voters are upset with Biden on issues related to immigration and crime, while the Democrats are resorting to their tried and tested formula of scaremongering to stick the non-white votes with them.

I don't think it's that simple. You sound like other people don't have brains of their own. Maybe it used to be like this in the past, but now people are smart, they know parties are trying to manipulate them.

[FanEagle]

When you are gambling in a casino game those words do make sense, you can do whatever you want and that's obviously important because you need to have the freedom to do it, it doesn't matter if it's plinko or slots or dice or roulettte, or even something like football where you do need a bit of an knowledge but that's on an "unimportant" topic unless you have a career in it. However, if we are talking about something like politics, and betting on it, you are not just betting on any random game, you are betting on 4 years of a nations future and that's not an easy feat, sure the bet is equally easy you just click a few things but knowing or guessing the four years of a nation is a tough deal.

It means that in this case USA will not be the same nation after 4 years more from Trump or Biden, those are very two different personalities and they will do 100% different things for the nation and many things will change. This isn't important at a small sport level thing, this is huge, has years of consequences and what happens in USA usually matters to rest of the world economically too.

[Hispo]

During the last few weeks, the liberal mouthpiece of New York Times have gone ballistic and churned out half a dozen articles regarding the worsening poll numbers for Joe Biden.~

But gamblers did not react to the "worsening poll numbers" in any way



We saw those same numbers weeks ago. I think it means bettors are aware how misleading those numbers can be. You said there's a liberal campiagn ging on right now. Let's see how the nubers will change after that, like in a month, shall we?

But rather than looking into the actual issues, they are still trying to look through the lens of propaganda and predefined beliefs. IMO, younger and non-white voters are upset with Biden on issues related to immigration and crime, while the Democrats are resorting to their tried and tested formula of scaremongering to stick the non-white votes with them.

I don't think it's that simple. You sound like other people don't have brains of their own. Maybe it used to be like this in the past, but now people are smart, they know parties are trying to manipulate them.

Leaving poll numbers on one side and also the manipulation which the medie of both sides could be trying to push into the heads and minds of the American public. Is it my imagination or Trump's odds have actually increased since the end of this summer? I know he has always been under Biden's odds, but I have got the impression Trump's were lower before.
If that is indeed true, I would say it has something to do with the exit of the campaign of several Republican políticians and also the discomfort Biden may be provoking with his immigration policy and the handling of the middle east conflict.
Swing voters have start to consider to vote null or even vote for Trump (the latter is less likely though).
Still, the lastest Republican underperforming elections may guide me to bet in favor of Biden...

[Sithara007]

Yeah, I agree there is much hypocrisy and problems within the democrat party, it would be easier for the Republican party to win over the Democrat party if they did not choose Trump as their leader and current head of the party. If the Republican party remained as it used to be back in the 2000s or mid 2010, when their politics were about conservatism instead of the ideas of Trump, then the Democrat party would be in trouble, facing a more coherent and moderate republican party.

Well.. it goes both ways. Democrats have become more liberal and tilted more to the left, while the Republicans have become more conservative and tilted more to the right and far-right. DINOs and RINOs are now almost extinct. Rare specimens exist though, such as Joe Manchin (Democrat senator for West Virginia, who is a DINO and Lisa Murkowski, the RINO Republican senator from Alaska). And it is not an unnatural change. Electorate has moved to opposite poles. Democrat electorate has become more leftwing, and Republican electorate has become more right-wing. And under such scenarios, we can't really expect the GOP to listen to the moderates. We saw what happened to Kevin McCarthy recently. 

[Hispo]

Yeah, I agree there is much hypocrisy and problems within the democrat party, it would be easier for the Republican party to win over the Democrat party if they did not choose Trump as their leader and current head of the party. If the Republican party remained as it used to be back in the 2000s or mid 2010, when their politics were about conservatism instead of the ideas of Trump, then the Democrat party would be in trouble, facing a more coherent and moderate republican party.

Well.. it goes both ways. Democrats have become more liberal and tilted more to the left, while the Republicans have become more conservative and tilted more to the right and far-right. DINOs and RINOs are now almost extinct. Rare specimens exist though, such as Joe Manchin (Democrat senator for West Virginia, who is a DINO and Lisa Murkowski, the RINO Republican senator from Alaska). And it is not an unnatural change. Electorate has moved to opposite poles. Democrat electorate has become more leftwing, and Republican electorate has become more right-wing. And under such scenarios, we can't really expect the GOP to listen to the moderates. We saw what happened to Kevin McCarthy recently.  

What you call Dinos and Rinos are terms which are mostly used by members of the party in a despective way, since you seem to be pretty informed on American politics, I am sure you are aware of it.
I know it is a biased opinion, but from the leftist perspective are the Republicans who have moved further to the right (since the entry of Trump into politics) and they (leftists) assumed to have mostly stayed unmoved in the moderate left, as a consequence of it, the geometrical center of politics gets displaced to the right. At least that is the leftist theory of what it is going on.

Even though Trump talks about Communist and Marxist in the United States doing their plans to get rid of him and the Republican party, I still cannot think of an actual Marxist or Communist in a position of power within the USA. The closer they got is Bernie Sanders and I think he is rather a social democrat, instead a full blown communist.

[Betwrong]

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Leaving poll numbers on one side and also the manipulation which the medie of both sides could be trying to push into the heads and minds of the American public. Is it my imagination or Trump's odds have actually increased since the end of this summer? I know he has always been under Biden's odds, but I have got the impression Trump's were lower before.
If that is indeed true, I would say it has something to do with the exit of the campaign of several Republican políticians and also the discomfort Biden may be provoking with his immigration policy and the handling of the middle east conflict.
Swing voters have start to consider to vote null or even vote for Trump (the latter is less likely though).
Still, the lastest Republican underperforming elections may guide me to bet in favor of Biden...

You are not mistaken. Trump's odds, in the sense that he has more chances to win from gamblers' point of view, have increased since Summer. He was behind Biden for many months, and now look at this:



The situation is almost identical on many sports betting sites:



Do I think Trump will win? No. But I can't ignore the reality.

[Hispo]

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Leaving poll numbers on one side and also the manipulation which the medie of both sides could be trying to push into the heads and minds of the American public. Is it my imagination or Trump's odds have actually increased since the end of this summer? I know he has always been under Biden's odds, but I have got the impression Trump's were lower before.
If that is indeed true, I would say it has something to do with the exit of the campaign of several Republican políticians and also the discomfort Biden may be provoking with his immigration policy and the handling of the middle east conflict.
Swing voters have start to consider to vote null or even vote for Trump (the latter is less likely though).
Still, the lastest Republican underperforming elections may guide me to bet in favor of Biden...

You are not mistaken. Trump's odds, in the sense that he has more chances to win from gamblers' point of view, have increased since Summer. He was behind Biden for many months, and now look at this:



The situation is almost identical on many sports betting sites:



Do I think Trump will win? No. But I can't ignore the reality.

To me, it is a signal that bettors and users of casinos had a early impression about Trump chances, they may have assumed that even though Trump could easily secure his nomination for the Republican party, they did not actually see a reliable Presidential candidate to take over the Biden's Administration. It seems that now things have changed in the midset of those but betted for Biden and those who were not considering to do so for Trump.
Basically, many of those people wait for the polling to give them some clue on where they are supposed to put their money, in the case they wish to have bigger and better chances, however, I have come to the conclusion the American political landscape is going through an era where polling cannot be as trusted as people used to. After all, we have seen several times in a row how polls give Republicans an advantage over Democrats in the lastest local and midterm elections, fruitlessly to the dismay of Republicans.

So I do not know what to make out of this, bettors may feel this incoming election will be different or there has been some rumors on both candidates' campaign strategies I have not read about.

[STT]

3x odds on a sitting president mid term is quite attractive really.    Then contrast that to his largest likely opposition within the party which is Robert Kennedy JR., really high odds so people dont rate that prospect.   Can we vote on the vice president as thats surely possible by normal process basically I mean bad health etc.
   To bet for or against Biden to me is guessing on recession prospects, something big like job losses generally and that could knock him out of likely re-election.   If we think recession happens then sure bet against a sitting president but otherwise respect history and suspend your own opinions and bias is best tbh.

[electronicash]

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Leaving poll numbers on one side and also the manipulation which the medie of both sides could be trying to push into the heads and minds of the American public. Is it my imagination or Trump's odds have actually increased since the end of this summer? I know he has always been under Biden's odds, but I have got the impression Trump's were lower before.
If that is indeed true, I would say it has something to do with the exit of the campaign of several Republican políticians and also the discomfort Biden may be provoking with his immigration policy and the handling of the middle east conflict.
Swing voters have start to consider to vote null or even vote for Trump (the latter is less likely though).
Still, the lastest Republican underperforming elections may guide me to bet in favor of Biden...

You are not mistaken. Trump's odds, in the sense that he has more chances to win from gamblers' point of view, have increased since Summer. He was behind Biden for many months, and now look at this:



The situation is almost identical on many sports betting sites:



Do I think Trump will win? No. But I can't ignore the reality.

To me, it is a signal that bettors and users of casinos had a early impression about Trump chances, they may have assumed that even though Trump could easily secure his nomination for the Republican party, they did not actually see a reliable Presidential candidate to take over the Biden's Administration. It seems that now things have changed in the midset of those but betted for Biden and those who were not considering to do so for Trump.
Basically, many of those people wait for the polling to give them some clue on where they are supposed to put their money, in the case they wish to have bigger and better chances, however, I have come to the conclusion the American political landscape is going through an era where polling cannot be as trusted as people used to. After all, we have seen several times in a row how polls give Republicans an advantage over Democrats in the lastest local and midterm elections, fruitlessly to the dismay of Republicans.

So I do not know what to make out of this, bettors may feel this incoming election will be different or there has been some rumors on both candidates' campaign strategies I have not read about.

with the rise of populists, polls can't be trusted but maybe because it's just too early to see who the masses want. Raamaswy slamming those guys in the debate is just not going to make them win an audience but he seems not among the top.

Trump now 2.50 is like a sign to cast your bet but bettors may just hold yet because it's still unsure whether he could go to jail or not.
there will be a surprise candidate for sure, Tucker Carlson is very popular and he seems to be speaking everywhere like he will be running.

[Sithara007]

Ideally Trump's odds should be somewhere around 1.3-1.4, given that he has a strong lead in opinion polls for the last several months. But the uncertainty remains over his conviction. The Democrats are trying to get him disqualified to stand in the POTUS elections. This can easily backfire on the Democrats. If they get Trump disqualified somehow, then someone like Ivanka will be announced as the candidate and she will sweep the floor with Joe Biden. What Democrats need to do is to play fairly so that at least a section of the voters will stay with them.

BTW, check this poll:
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/11/politics/cnn-polls-trump-biden-michigan-georgia

Trump is leading by 10 points against Biden in Michigan!!! That tells a lot.

[Hirose UK]

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It's true, or I know, but there are people who have a wrong idea about this, because when it comes to politics, they believe that Presidents and government Policies are going to focus on reducing the crime that exists in a country, or things simlilares, it is not like that, and although they have everything to be able to generate the best of all the Security of the hands , we must look at other things that are more focused on the good, for example the proeblmande always being the economic one, inflation as high as there is, of how the FED is capable of no longer supporting the makeup that exists, then these are things that can manifest themselves, if in this order of Ideas we are going to think that this big country can handle everything and that Things work out as many of us believe, but that is no longer the case, politics in the USA is very similar to that of South America , it is actually very dirty, among the politicians themselves there is very bad anger, they wage war among themselves. , there is no fair game, I think that ideas are something that has Disappeared, for me the candidates from the USA only look for pioder.

They do not care about the common good of any of their inhabitants, only reaching power to be able to dominate, that is what I see, that is why in the US things are not like before, even though it is a country where it is seen that economy is very strong, and they are the maximum in their hegemony. The truth is that at any moment the Bubble that is your economy could burst again, I don't see that there is much confidence , as soon as you see what happens between the behavior of the USD vs Eur one can draw conclusions, and they are not good, I really don't I like what the dollar is doing so far, that's why I want to see the things that can be generated, now when we think that the USA has strong immigration policies, there are none , there is a strong problem especially in New York With this, how could one of those candidates fix that problem? without Deporting.

Every state leader will definitely do and give his best for the progress of the country and also the gaps towards all levels of society in it, whatever the matter, there must be solution and efforts will be made.
But not everything will be considered correct and can be liked by all levels of society because on average the efforts made by the government in any country will definitely cause controversy and rejection from society even though they have good intentions.
I know what Biden really means, but he can't win the hearts of the people and he can't fulfill some of the people demands, which of course are different.
Every time Biden does there is always conflict between the people and this is why he loses more votes and he may do several things to regain the sympathy of the US people.
From all this it looks very dirty, but that is what happens in political competition, in fact almost all countries that have presidential democratic systems do this.
But just look now, Trump is the one who can take this opportunity and he can win over more people to support him, he has an advantage in terms of supporters and also seems to have a large community behind him.
I was surprised to see the increasingly solid turnout of Trump supporters.

The US is developed country, where the economic standard of living is even and capitalist income is high, plus the use of developing technology can provide benefits to society.
But unfortunately some government leaders take advantage of conditions like this for their personal interests and they only care about power to be able to dominate every advantage.

[FanEagle]

If you ever wonder about why Democrats are talking about Trump more than talking about what Biden can do, it's simple; it's because Biden or a trash can basically could do more help to their nation than Trump ever could. You are talking about someone who has stolen nuclear program details from the white house to his own suite after he didn't get reelected, do you think Biden would do that?

I mean we are talking about a criminal here, someone who has other nations powerful people in his pockets, and that's why it's easy to say that instead of electing Trump, you could have a box of bananas and you would still be able to do better as a nation. The "fearmongering" you are talking about is literally a criminal president who asked a state governor to fake election results, that's not fearmongering, that's a real criminal evil that wants the highest position in politics.

[nullama]

If you ever wonder about why Democrats are talking about Trump more than talking about what Biden can do, it's simple; it's because Biden or a trash can basically could do more help to their nation than Trump ever could. You are talking about someone who has stolen nuclear program details from the white house to his own suite after he didn't get reelected, do you think Biden would do that?

I mean we are talking about a criminal here, someone who has other nations powerful people in his pockets, and that's why it's easy to say that instead of electing Trump, you could have a box of bananas and you would still be able to do better as a nation. The "fearmongering" you are talking about is literally a criminal president who asked a state governor to fake election results, that's not fearmongering, that's a real criminal evil that wants the highest position in politics.

I think what is happening in the US is quite alarming.

I keep seeing conversations about how old a candidate is, or how tall they are, if they are wearing shoes that make them taller, or anything else that is just personal things.

Very few actual debate about what is a good policy moving forward, with facts, a master plan, etc.

It's all just reactive, insulting, trying to make people hate "the other" so that they vote for them instead.

Compare what politicians talk these days with this quote:

"We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard"