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March 06, 2024, 04:54:16 PM
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A potential Trump win becomes bigger and bigger possibility everyday. These days it is not really about who is a better politician when people are voting, to be fair neither are good politicians anyway. These days it matters a lot more when one of the candidates instil a degree of emotion with their voters to get them out and voting. Same thing happened in 2020, people didn't go out to vote for Biden, they went out to vote "not trump" option and that's how Biden won.

These days, Trump supporters are a lot more fired up and feeling excited, whereas Biden supporters (and there are no Biden supporters, just people who do not want trump) do not feel the same way anymore, they lost that fire. So Trump may end up winning.

Well, if you pay attention to the speeches of Trump he does not talk about his plan of governing whatsoever when he is in front of the public, he talks about grievances and who the other side is alledgedly playing dirty against him to damage his reputation and his economical status. I still recall not long ago he even mentioned how he was the "retribution" for the people in the United States who felt wronged or mistreated during the presidency of Biden. Despise of the presidency of Biden being objectively a success in economical terms, he has messed up in his other things: the response to the Hamas-Israel war, gender ideology being displayed and pushed inside classrooms in middle schools and seemly his complete disregard for the religious community in his country. There are many religious people there in the USA, and many of them will vote republican for the way Biden has behaved this last year.
By the way, I suspect many bettors could be using artificial intelligence in some way for them to make a decision on how betting in this presidential election, it does not not normal to me how Trump's odds changed so dramatically in question of months.

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March 06, 2024, 06:39:59 PM
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A potential Trump win becomes bigger and bigger possibility everyday. These days it is not really about who is a better politician when people are voting, to be fair neither are good politicians anyway. These days it matters a lot more when one of the candidates instil a degree of emotion with their voters to get them out and voting. Same thing happened in 2020, people didn't go out to vote for Biden, they went out to vote "not trump" option and that's how Biden won.

These days, Trump supporters are a lot more fired up and feeling excited, whereas Biden supporters (and there are no Biden supporters, just people who do not want trump) do not feel the same way anymore, they lost that fire. So Trump may end up winning.


Compared to previous elections, it is clear that the American elections will heat up and will most likely have a significant influence on the world economy, now Trump has managed to win every demand that seems to be deliberately done by his opponents to stop his candidacy for president, but it seems that Trump's political opponents do not realize the possibility of votes will increase dramatically in the next election due to the victory he got in the The court, I think the public will certainly see something that Trump himself likes that his political opponents really like so that it will trigger his electability in the eyes of the public for the better.

In addition, the 2024 election may be a rematch between Biden and Trump, which may cause turmoil of conflict between supporters of the two parties when one of them will lose and this has happened and made the conflict quite complicated in America when Trump lost the previous election,
democrats and Republicans continue to put forward two names of presidential candidates who often have controversial track records so far, such as Republicans who will again nominate Biden if later Trump also runs as a candidate for American President, honestly I want to see if America will be led by a woman someday, so that maybe America can become a friendly country and no longer a country that often triggers wars.

But despite all that, I would personally bet on Trump victory.

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March 06, 2024, 06:58:08 PM
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Betting an election is something that is not usually regular like betting do I do know that some countries people bet on their elections, but for me, I don’t really find any fun  on betting on elections neither the US presidential elections that is coming, I feel more comfortable in betting I have never participated in anything elections and I have never done that before. I don’t pick interest I don’t even follow any election trend. I just followed the government that is on sit after the election, maybe other persons also like betting on election but I don’t really have much interest on it. The manipulation on election is too much on personal interest it’s something that can be manipulated.



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        -     Honestly, I have no idea what will happen in the election that is coming this summer in our country, the US. I'm just not sure if Trump will run again for the presidency. Will he run again to fight Biden again?

And in the event that the two of them compete again, he will lose, so this time Biden will lose. Because, as far as I know, it seems like there was a cheat on the number; I just don't know if it's true. Maybe the other gamblers will have a bet again in that matter of the election in the US.

I know what will happen hehehe. Trump will win with the largest landslide differences between candidates recorded in America. Is this because Trump is a good politician? This will certainly not be the reason. Trump is corrupt human being similar to 99% of these politicians. However, the reason that Trump will win with the largest landslide victory is because of how badly this Biden administration and the democrats have been running their country.



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March 07, 2024, 05:25:52 AM
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        -     Honestly, I have no idea what will happen in the election that is coming this summer in our country, the US. I'm just not sure if Trump will run again for the presidency. Will he run again to fight Biden again?

And in the event that the two of them compete again, he will lose, so this time Biden will lose. Because, as far as I know, it seems like there was a cheat on the number; I just don't know if it's true. Maybe the other gamblers will have a bet again in that matter of the election in the US.

I know what will happen hehehe. Trump will win with the largest landslide differences between candidates recorded in America. Is this because Trump is a good politician? This will certainly not be the reason. Trump is corrupt human being similar to 99% of these politicians. However, the reason that Trump will win with the largest landslide victory is because of how badly this Biden administration and the democrats have been running their country.
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Hahaha, if compare Trump with Biden, maybe Trump is leader who often does several things that can be said to be sensational regarding every decision and attitude he takes in certain conditions, but in terms of governance I would say that Trump is much better than Biden.
Many people are dissatisfied with Biden performance during his time as US president during this period and of course this is an opportunity for Trump to gain sympathy and win the hearts of the US people to give him full support.
In several problems that occurred, Biden and Trump also exposed each other ugliness, but from here it is still clear that Trump still dominates and this is the reason why Trump is truly the most favored candidate.
Moreover, Trump and the Republican Party have dominated by getting vote support that really surpasses Biden.

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March 07, 2024, 10:44:12 AM
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Betting an election is something that is not usually regular like betting do I do know that some countries people bet on their elections, but for me, I don’t really find any fun  on betting on elections neither the US presidential elections that is coming, I feel more comfortable in betting I have never participated in anything elections and I have never done that before. I don’t pick interest I don’t even follow any election trend. I just followed the government that is on sit after the election, maybe other persons also like betting on election but I don’t really have much interest on it. The manipulation on election is too much on personal interest it’s something that can be manipulated.

It's really interesting to see betting scores because they serve a bit like a poll, but I would say they are more accurate because people are putting money in those bets, not just saying it.

It's interesting to see that Trump is basically going to be the next president of the US based on these "polls"

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As expected, the lunatics at the Republican National Convention all dropped out one by one, with most endorsing Trump.

Sometimes I don't understand what runs through these people's minds.

I'd still advise betting against Trump winning the election. In case you do want him to win, well, think of it like this - if he wins, you get what you want, and if he loses, you earn some money from it Smiley

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As expected, the lunatics at the Republican National Convention all dropped out one by one, with most endorsing Trump.

Sometimes I don't understand what runs through these people's minds.

I'd still advise betting against Trump winning the election. In case you do want him to win, well, think of it like this - if he wins, you get what you want, and if he loses, you earn some money from it Smiley

Trump is going to win anyway and his odds should be around 1.3-1.4 ideally. But from what I can see, most of the sportsbooks have his odds at 1.7 to 1.9. So that means the sportsbooks are underestimating his chances of win. Under these circumstances, it will be pure stupidity to bet against him. It is almost certain that he would be the POTUS candidate from the GOP. Only a legal challenge which would disqualify him from running for the presidential post can change that. And that is a remote possibility. I would rather advice everyone to bet in favor of Trump. 

And for you NotATether, why don't you bet in favor of Trump? Since you love Biden so much, if he wins, you get what you want, and if Trump wins, you will get a good monetary reward. 

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Trump is going to win anyway and his odds should be around 1.3-1.4 ideally. But from what I can see, most of the sportsbooks have his odds at 1.7 to 1.9. So that means the sportsbooks are underestimating his chances of win. Under these circumstances, it will be pure stupidity to bet against him. It is almost certain that he would be the POTUS candidate from the GOP. Only a legal challenge which would disqualify him from running for the presidential post can change that. And that is a remote possibility. I would rather advice everyone to bet in favor of Trump. 

And for you NotATether, why don't you bet in favor of Trump? Since you love Biden so much, if he wins, you get what you want, and if Trump wins, you will get a good monetary reward. 

Yeah, I think most of the betting sites are putting Trump as the winner.

And betting sites are probably more accurate than polls since people are actually putting money in there to get their "vote".

It will definitely be an interesting year for the world. Many elections going on at this time.

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Biden may or may not be a better president, there is no tangible way to provide proof for it, there are some things he did better and some he did worse, but there is definitely some stuff where one side agreed to it and one side disagreed so it is not like mathematical equation. In the end, one thing is clear, Biden is a "nicer" and kinder person, whereas Trump is more ruthless, rude, and all around not a good person to be fair.

This is what the core that we are talking about during this race as well, most people agree with this and that's the main battle ground for these two. So one side says they would rather have a bad guy be a good president and the other side say they rather have good guy who is a bad president, and they both make decisions.

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Biden may or may not be a better president, there is no tangible way to provide proof for it, there are some things he did better and some he did worse, but there is definitely some stuff where one side agreed to it and one side disagreed so it is not like mathematical equation. In the end, one thing is clear, Biden is a "nicer" and kinder person, whereas Trump is more ruthless, rude, and all around not a good person to be fair.

This is what the core that we are talking about during this race as well, most people agree with this and that's the main battle ground for these two. So one side says they would rather have a bad guy be a good president and the other side say they rather have good guy who is a bad president, and they both make decisions.

What is interesting to me is that many people talk more about Trump than the actual current president of the US.

Trump clearly has more popularity than the president himself, so based on that I think Trump will become the next president.

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March 09, 2024, 10:30:47 PM
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As expected, the lunatics at the Republican National Convention all dropped out one by one, with most endorsing Trump.

Sometimes I don't understand what runs through these people's minds.

I'd still advise betting against Trump winning the election. In case you do want him to win, well, think of it like this - if he wins, you get what you want, and if he loses, you earn some money from it Smiley

I am kind of disappointed from the rest of the Republican party runners, to be honest. I knew Donald Trump was likely to be the front runner of the race, but I was also expecting more of a tougher fight between him, Nikki and DeSantis. In the even one of the less likely runners (Nikki) was the last one to drop off the race and she did not endorse Trump.

I would like to be as sure as you are on the result of the elections, by the way. But I have not found myself yet to be in such position, Trump continues to gain sympathy among many of the Republican voters, specially since his indictments started to pile up one after another.

At this state of the presidential campaign, the choice seems to be in the hands of the silent Republican voters who do not think positively about Trump and are more likely not to vote for him (either because he will stay home in election day or will end up voting for Biden).
If American politics were normal, then Trump would not be in the race any longer and some establishment Republican would take his place as nominee.

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What is interesting to me is that many people talk more about Trump than the actual current president of the US.

Trump clearly has more popularity than the president himself, so based on that I think Trump will become the next president.
That was also the reason why he lost as well, hell he lost popular vote twice, exactly for that reason. If it was Biden vs someone like maybe Mitt Romney for example, it wouldn't even be a debate and Biden would have lost. The reason that Trump may end up losing, IS because he is talked about a lot more. There are some people who talk good about him, but there are plenty who talk bad about him too.

So, this much talk about him, his popularity, good or bad, ends up making people going to vote. Trump got the highest amount of voters of anyone ever up until 2020 elections, he got 74 million, by comparison, his previous one was 62 million, so he got 12 more million voters and highest Obama ever got was 69 million, with the "first black president" rush. You know why he lost? Biden got 81 million, a new record.

So, people still do tend to vote "not trump" option, it could be Biden, it could be you, it could be me, people just vote the "not trump" option. This much talk helps him as much as it hurts him too. No idea how it will turn out this time around, but 2020 was a bit hard. Biden ruling for four years may have made some people want to go back to Trump though, so we still have no idea.

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What is interesting to me is that many people talk more about Trump than the actual current president of the US.

Trump clearly has more popularity than the president himself, so based on that I think Trump will become the next president.
.... No idea how it will turn out this time around, but 2020 was a bit hard. Biden ruling for four years may have made some people want to go back to Trump though, so we still have no idea.

To me, the people of the United States will voted based on what is more important to them, either the conomy or the social status of the United States. Joe Biden has somehow managed to keep the economy afloat and also has improved many of the economical metrics during his presidency, inflation seems to be going down, employment is up, the gas price is also going down compared to what we see at the beginning of his term, not mentioning the state of the stocks in the USA market, which seems to be doing pretty good.
On the other hand, there will be people who won't vote for him for the societal changes and disputes in the United States: the state of the southern border, the LGBTQ things going on in schools of the country, the avalanche of immigrants appearing not only in Texas, but also now in the north (Chicago and New York City).
It is more difficult not to worry about the economy of your country if there are immigrants roaming around your neighborhood, some of them could be criminals from foreign countries. (As it has already happened, unfortunately).

If the odds do not lie, most of gamblers/bettors out there believe people are more interested in the societal changes and then the stable economy Biden has managed to keep for the American people, it is matter of time for all of us whether that vision prevails until November. It is going to be a very interesting year, I am sure of it...

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March 10, 2024, 07:41:18 PM
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What is interesting to me is that many people talk more about Trump than the actual current president of the US.

Trump clearly has more popularity than the president himself, so based on that I think Trump will become the next president.
That was also the reason why he lost as well, hell he lost popular vote twice, exactly for that reason. If it was Biden vs someone like maybe Mitt Romney for example, it wouldn't even be a debate and Biden would have lost. The reason that Trump may end up losing, IS because he is talked about a lot more. There are some people who talk good about him, but there are plenty who talk bad about him too.

So, this much talk about him, his popularity, good or bad, ends up making people going to vote. Trump got the highest amount of voters of anyone ever up until 2020 elections, he got 74 million, by comparison, his previous one was 62 million, so he got 12 more million voters and highest Obama ever got was 69 million, with the "first black president" rush. You know why he lost? Biden got 81 million, a new record.

So, people still do tend to vote "not trump" option, it could be Biden, it could be you, it could be me, people just vote the "not trump" option. This much talk helps him as much as it hurts him too. No idea how it will turn out this time around, but 2020 was a bit hard. Biden ruling for four years may have made some people want to go back to Trump though, so we still have no idea.

I have seen the things that have been presented in the USA, on TV, some articles, I know that popularity is always a very good symptom in politicians, because people talk a lot about them, in that clearly Trump has gained a lot of ground, yes more popular than Biden himself, because I know that there are many Americans who do not agree with the mandate and how he has run the country currently, I don't know, but I think that things can take a new direction if they change president.

This is very normal to think, a change is always good, we all know that the USA has always had a strong country position, in fact since the 2nd World War the USA has shown incredible power and that it is a power in every sense, so Based on the fact that now there is a huge crime rate, there are economic problems, inflation is becoming an issue that they do not want to touch on, but it exists, these things tire citizens.

The problem of immigration has led to crime rates in the country, the fact that a citizen no longer feels so safe because of a foreigner is a problem that this country cannot afford, Trump represents the solution to these problems, because he already He said he was going to solve that problem, these little things, little details are what make the difference.

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As expected, the lunatics at the Republican National Convention all dropped out one by one, with most endorsing Trump.

Sometimes I don't understand what runs through these people's minds.

I'd still advise betting against Trump winning the election. In case you do want him to win, well, think of it like this - if he wins, you get what you want, and if he loses, you earn some money from it Smiley

An election is not about who is the best person to lead a country and the people. Elections are very much similar to beauty pageants and popularity contests where personalities are more important than what good a person has done for his country.

Also, we can criticize these lunatics in the Republican National Convention for being stupid, however, the most stupid people in the world are the people who voted for them to be in power. If there is anyone that should be blamed, it is the voters.

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What is interesting to me is that many people talk more about Trump than the actual current president of the US.

Trump clearly has more popularity than the president himself, so based on that I think Trump will become the next president.
That was also the reason why he lost as well, hell he lost popular vote twice, exactly for that reason. If it was Biden vs someone like maybe Mitt Romney for example, it wouldn't even be a debate and Biden would have lost. The reason that Trump may end up losing, IS because he is talked about a lot more. There are some people who talk good about him, but there are plenty who talk bad about him too.

So, this much talk about him, his popularity, good or bad, ends up making people going to vote. Trump got the highest amount of voters of anyone ever up until 2020 elections, he got 74 million, by comparison, his previous one was 62 million, so he got 12 more million voters and highest Obama ever got was 69 million, with the "first black president" rush. You know why he lost? Biden got 81 million, a new record.

So, people still do tend to vote "not trump" option, it could be Biden, it could be you, it could be me, people just vote the "not trump" option. This much talk helps him as much as it hurts him too. No idea how it will turn out this time around, but 2020 was a bit hard. Biden ruling for four years may have made some people want to go back to Trump though, so we still have no idea.
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The problem of immigration has led to crime rates in the country, the fact that a citizen no longer feels so safe because of a foreigner is a problem that this country cannot afford, Trump represents the solution to these problems, because he already He said he was going to solve that problem, these little things, little details are what make the difference.


Trump says always that is going to solve all problems which no one before him has been able to solve, haven't your noticed it?
You should go back to his campaign in 2016 and to his campaign for reelection back in 2020. When he talked about trashing Obamacare and replace it with a better system he never did implement a solution for people to be able to afford for their medicines and treatments.
Trump also said that he was going to decrease the national debt/deficit under his presidency and instead, he managed to increase the national debt of the country (by cutting the taxes to the richest people in the United States). He could not even diver the wall he campaigned on during the 2016.

By the way, you should see at the numbers of the inflation and the prices of the Fuel there in the USA and the percentage of employment, even though I do not completely agree with the methods and politics used by Biden as president, the metrics of the American economy are pretty far from being bad, they are actually quite good. Trump knows it, that is why he ordered Republicans to kill the Border bill negotiated on the Senate/Chamber, because he needs something to run on, and he plans to run on the immigration topic, as he has always done. If he wins, it is because populism and disagreement of Biden acceptance of LGBTQ people and Marihuana, also de management of the conflicts overseas, of course.

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March 11, 2024, 05:51:24 PM
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I am kind of disappointed from the rest of the Republican party runners, to be honest. I knew Donald Trump was likely to be the front runner of the race, but I was also expecting more of a tougher fight between him, Nikki and DeSantis. In the even one of the less likely runners (Nikki) was the last one to drop off the race and she did not endorse Trump.

I would like to be as sure as you are on the result of the elections, by the way. But I have not found myself yet to be in such position, Trump continues to gain sympathy among many of the Republican voters, specially since his indictments started to pile up one after another.

At this state of the presidential campaign, the choice seems to be in the hands of the silent Republican voters who do not think positively about Trump and are more likely not to vote for him (either because he will stay home in election day or will end up voting for Biden).
If American politics were normal, then Trump would not be in the race any longer and some establishment Republican would take his place as nominee.
To be fair when there is a president that goes for a re-election, not that many high quality people actually go for nomination. There is a huge chance that you do not end up getting endless amount of nominations, you try your hand a few times max and then you are done, and it would also impact your position as well, so you should be careful when you throw your hat in the ring. Plus, when you are the nominee, you end up saying bad things about other nominees, which means if you end up losing, you are going to get a lot of backlash on that.

So, only people who are not that great goes up against a re-election candidate. Trump and Biden has that advantage, but after this one, I am pretty sure we are going to get two new candidates for 2028 by both parties, and I am sure it will be pretty strong.

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~snip~
To be fair when there is a president that goes for a re-election, not that many high quality people actually go for nomination. There is a huge chance that you do not end up getting endless amount of nominations, you try your hand a few times max and then you are done, and it would also impact your position as well, so you should be careful when you throw your hat in the ring. Plus, when you are the nominee, you end up saying bad things about other nominees, which means if you end up losing, you are going to get a lot of backlash on that.

So, only people who are not that great goes up against a re-election candidate. Trump and Biden has that advantage, but after this one, I am pretty sure we are going to get two new candidates for 2028 by both parties, and I am sure it will be pretty strong.

Well, by 2028 Trump will be 81, and Biden will be 85...

I'm not really sure they would be running for president, independent of being reelected or not.

I think the idea of having a maximum age for president should be discussed.

I mean, there are checks for people driving a car at late age, but for driving a whole country you don't need any checks?

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March 12, 2024, 07:41:53 AM
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I think that this topic is moving to a political discussion, rather than discussing the odds of Biden or Trump to win.
A more interesting question is will Robert Kennedy Jr. gather enough votes as an independent candidate to change the outcome of the election. If he steals enough votes from Trump, Biden might have a small chance to win. Trump hasn't chosen a candidate for vice president.
Maybe choosing a popular politician as a future vice president will lead to a better result at the elections for Trump. I'm still not sure who is going to be the next US president. Trump is the obvious choice, but all the Trump haters might join forces to stop him.

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