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June 20, 2023, 04:50:30 PM
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Just imagine how we need to change the system of health care and society so that we can identify psychological problems at an early stage, because most people will never admit that they have any problems on a psychological level, although very many people have such problems to a greater or lesser extent.

In my opinion in order to do that we would have to introduce stricter control over each of us, and no one would like that, so society will never get rid of inadequate behavior of a certain percentage of people. We'll just have to accept it and be more attentive to our children and loved ones to protect our families from it.   
A lot of people tend to hide their psychological issues from others because they hesitate to discuss things with others, even if they have people that are very close to them, they still sometimes don't share what they feel, and that becomes the reason why many people commit suicide only because they've been suffering from a psychological issue that they never discussed with anyone nor did they seek any help but they just kept it to themselves and it kept eating them from the inside.

It's definitely the responsibility of those who are close to them, especially the parents for their children from an early stage, they should take care of every single thing so that the children don't get into psychological illnesses that will eat them up from the inside and they won't be able to live their life and will finish it some day in the future.

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June 20, 2023, 05:21:54 PM
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A lot of people tend to hide their psychological issues from others because they hesitate to discuss things with others, even if they have people that are very close to them, they still sometimes don't share what they feel, and that becomes the reason why many people commit suicide only because they've been suffering from a psychological issue that they never discussed with anyone nor did they seek any help but they just kept it to themselves and it kept eating them from the inside.

It's definitely the responsibility of those who are close to them, especially the parents for their children from an early stage, they should take care of every single thing so that the children don't get into psychological illnesses that will eat them up from the inside and they won't be able to live their life and will finish it some day in the future.
Because there's still a stigma running around the world, people still not accept or understand mental health issues which addiction could be one. It should be taken action asap before anything happens in not a good way because it can ruin themselves and the people around them, only professionals can help them.
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June 20, 2023, 08:23:32 PM
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A lot of people tend to hide their psychological issues from others because they hesitate to discuss things with others, even if they have people that are very close to them, they still sometimes don't share what they feel, and that becomes the reason why many people commit suicide only because they've been suffering from a psychological issue that they never discussed with anyone nor did they seek any help but they just kept it to themselves and it kept eating them from the inside.

It's definitely the responsibility of those who are close to them, especially the parents for their children from an early stage, they should take care of every single thing so that the children don't get into psychological illnesses that will eat them up from the inside and they won't be able to live their life and will finish it some day in the future.
Because there's still a stigma running around the world, people still not accept or understand mental health issues which addiction could be one. It should be taken action asap before anything happens in not a good way because it can ruin themselves and the people around them, only professionals can help them.

A lot has changed over the past years and I think that a lot more people talk openly about mental health issues than they did in the past. But mental health issues isn't always the same. I think talking about mental health when you lost a loved one is different from talking about an alcohol or gambling addfiction. Stigmatization isn't specifically happening for mental health issues in general, but for some types of that illness. That still makes it difficult for people to open up.

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June 20, 2023, 10:07:36 PM
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It is the best thing that can be done, there is no doubt about that, you cannot risk everything that has been won because it is very obvious that everything will be lost, this has happened to many players, ambition wins them and they play a trick on them , then these types of things are what should be avoided, we are players, but we must think intelligently, above all act, winning is winning, so when you win it is best to enjoy and to do so you must at least withdraw 50 % of what has been earned, it is not bad that it can be enjoyed, because everything is seen there in your balance but it is not enjoyed, that equals nothing.


This is on point.

If you don't want to lose your money, don't do impulsive and non-calculated actions that you will just regret later on. Being greedy won't get you somewhere especially if you aren't that skilled, knowledgeable, and lucky enough to win consecutive times. Being ambitious isn't really bad because you want to achieve more and you don't want to just be complacent. However, there's a fine line between aiming your goal and being greedy. Trust me, you don't want to be greedy only to find out later on you aren't gonna taste even a centavo as a winning reward due to negligence, because I've been there.

With very interesting points of view, personally I believe that when it comes to gambling, each person has their strengths, first they must have and apply what they know so that their game is favourable, regarding impulsiveness you are absolutely right, those impulses It is the worst thing that can be done when playing in a casino, and the worst thing is that these impulses make you want to do them when you play, it is something inevitable, these feelings are very common, personally, managing these emotions is the most Difficult to master, even when you are very experienced and veteran, you can make simple mistakes that also make you lose.

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June 21, 2023, 06:50:58 AM
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 A good alternative remedy is not to let those who you love to stay alone.

If you will take some time to spend with them, the chance that they will divert some of their attentions and that will help
them to speak about something. Though there are people who are not vocal but the companionship will allow them to
lose focus on what they are doing. It helps not to let them getting addicted.
exactly. family is one of the drugs that can help an addict distract from gambling.
because family can help provide any motivational spirit to get rid of thoughts of gambling and on the one hand family is the main factor for gambling addicts to be able to recover from their addiction.

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June 21, 2023, 09:35:12 AM
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In my opinion.. someone who is crazy about gambling is already addicted.. and it's strange if he loses.. he will do all kinds of ways to be able to play gambling again.. both positive and negative things.. but I understand people who like to gamble, he seemed to really enjoy it and they seemed to enjoy it... yes, maybe he won a lot and lost a little
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June 21, 2023, 01:25:16 PM
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A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money...........................

OMG... I never thought there would be news like that, a grandfather kidnaps his grandson to ransom money to play gambling. This is crazy, I didn't expect anyone to have such thoughts.

It turns out that gambling can not only waste money, but can also destroy families. Even this incident was carried out by a grandfather with the age of 65 years?

What was the grandpa's motive, I thought he could ask his son for money, or maybe his family didn't care about that grandpa anymore because he wasted his money playing gambling. He had lost his mind. He should be enjoying old age and playing with his grandchildren, now he has to feel the cold of prison. I think this is a lesson, so that no one loses their minds when gambling. Gambling is a game of stakes, but never put everything on the line for gambling. Don't risk family relationships for the sake of gambling
In other words gambling can destroy a person's life.
I only hope that with threads like this and with discussions about the evils of gambling addiction, it will warn all gamblers, especially novice gamblers, not to visit gambling too often because the habit of visiting gambling can also be addictive.
The story the Op wrote I hope to provide some awareness to other gamblers.

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June 21, 2023, 02:56:35 PM
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It's just so disappointing how a relative can be so selfish to put someone's life at stake for the sake of money. This is why we need to check up on the people we love to see whether they are doing just fine or they are going through some hardships such as gambling addiction which is a serious problem that needs intervention. By doing that, we could avoid things to escalate to this.

Yes, it needs to be done. We have to take care of our loved ones, especially our own families. That's why we need to always communicate well with our families, we must know what problems are happening to them. If we can catch the problem early, it will be easier to help.

Maybe the grandfather has long been a gambling addict so his actions can be very reckless. It was not an action that many people would think of, perhaps the grandfather was so depressed from losing while gambling that he had a bad thought, kidnapping his own grandson.

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June 21, 2023, 03:08:31 PM
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A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money...........................

OMG... I never thought there would be news like that, a grandfather kidnaps his grandson to ransom money to play gambling. This is crazy, I didn't expect anyone to have such thoughts.

It turns out that gambling can not only waste money, but can also destroy families. Even this incident was carried out by a grandfather with the age of 65 years?

What was the grandpa's motive, I thought he could ask his son for money, or maybe his family didn't care about that grandpa anymore because he wasted his money playing gambling. He had lost his mind. He should be enjoying old age and playing with his grandchildren, now he has to feel the cold of prison. I think this is a lesson, so that no one loses their minds when gambling. Gambling is a game of stakes, but never put everything on the line for gambling. Don't risk family relationships for the sake of gambling
In other words gambling can destroy a person's life.
I only hope that with threads like this and with discussions about the evils of gambling addiction, it will warn all gamblers, especially novice gamblers, not to visit gambling too often because the habit of visiting gambling can also be addictive.
The story the Op wrote I hope to provide some awareness to other gamblers.
It's not just gambling but almost all of things that you can addicted to that cost a lot of money to maintain is dangerous and one example of it is drugs. Being addicted to something that you can't maintain is dangerous. Depending on your mind condition, you will think of the unimaginable like this grandfather did to his grandchildren. It's crazy to see someone who kidnapped his grandchild just to continue his addiction. I hope no one in this forum really consider this situation just to continue your gambling vices.
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June 21, 2023, 03:32:28 PM
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Yes, you are right, if we care about our family then that will automatically raise our concern for other people who even if they don't have any relationship with us. I think this is something that every human being has, because basically we can't live forever without other people. And when something like this happens, believe something good will come to us for our concern for others, it is a law of reciprocity or a law of nature that will always happen.
Maybe one day, even if it's not us, but our family members who are having difficulties, somehow there will be someone else to help.
Concern for others will lead us to goodness because what we do to others will come back to us later. That way if some people or relatives have problems with gambling, we will know and be able to act on what we have to do, especially if it is our immediate family. And even though it's not our immediate family but other people, we will also help him because we know that helping people, especially those who need help, is kindness. So people with a gambling addiction often get angry and can calm their anger and have the opportunity to talk about it and cure it with our help.
Actually this is where the real challenge is, I mean when a gambler becomes someone who gets angry or emotional easily, we must have patience, because otherwise we will definitely let them be more because we are afraid that we will be carried away by our emotions too. Handling people who are addicted is not as easy as imagined, we have to really sacrifice extra and slowly to understand what they want first. Because if we immediately impose our will then it will not reach a point where they will understand and realize that we are helping them let go of something that is excessive in them.
Basically when a gambler bets and then loses, he becomes completely emotional. Then if anyone tries to console him he gets very angry and he loses patience due to which he is under extreme stress. But if an emotional person gets addicted to gambling then the future is really dire for him. But when a person bets he should not become deeply addicted to gambling. If an emotional person becomes too addicted to gambling, it is very difficult to bring him back. Become addicted to gambling to such an extent that they reach a point from which they do not want to come back but become addicted to more gambling. But a gambler must be patient before betting and refrain from over-betting if he loses. If a gambler loses a bet then he should never gamble with credit as he will only suffer losses in the future.

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June 21, 2023, 04:00:13 PM
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In my opinion.. someone who is crazy about gambling is already addicted.. and it's strange if he loses.. he will do all kinds of ways to be able to play gambling again.. both positive and negative things.. but I understand people who like to gamble, he seemed to really enjoy it and they seemed to enjoy it... yes, maybe he won a lot and lost a little
He will always lose when playing gambling, addicts only spend their time looking for money and then they play gambling like depositing money at the casino after losing so he will look for money again no matter how he can continue playing gambling, addicts will definitely have more gambling experience than ordinary gamblers , heavy addicts may have felt winning at the beginning because they learned from previous experiences, but in the end they will lose too.

Addicts always enjoy every game even though in the end their money will also run out and the dealer always continues to win against them, if someone already feels like an addict they should be able to start to realize and stop that they have gone too far in playing so they need self-awareness that playing must be wise to reduce his addiction.

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June 21, 2023, 04:02:44 PM
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It's just so disappointing how a relative can be so selfish to put someone's life at stake for the sake of money. This is why we need to check up on the people we love to see whether they are doing just fine or they are going through some hardships such as gambling addiction which is a serious problem that needs intervention. By doing that, we could avoid things to escalate to this.

Yes, it needs to be done. We have to take care of our loved ones, especially our own families. That's why we need to always communicate well with our families, we must know what problems are happening to them. If we can catch the problem early, it will be easier to help.

Maybe the grandfather has long been a gambling addict so his actions can be very reckless. It was not an action that many people would think of, perhaps the grandfather was so depressed from losing while gambling that he had a bad thought, kidnapping his own grandson.
And the grandfather was very good at hiding his gambling addiction from the rest of the family. And it could be that the grandfather never or rarely communicates with his family members, so they don't know that the grandfather has a gambling addiction. Perhaps, he has experienced it for a long time. There are many reasons Grandpa did it, but what is certain is that Grandpa needed money to continue gambling. Hopefully, Grandpa regrets what he did and not do the stupid thing like that in the future.
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June 21, 2023, 04:21:34 PM
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A lot of people tend to hide their psychological issues from others because they hesitate to discuss things with others, even if they have people that are very close to them, they still sometimes don't share what they feel, and that becomes the reason why many people commit suicide only because they've been suffering from a psychological issue that they never discussed with anyone nor did they seek any help but they just kept it to themselves and it kept eating them from the inside.

It's definitely the responsibility of those who are close to them, especially the parents for their children from an early stage, they should take care of every single thing so that the children don't get into psychological illnesses that will eat them up from the inside and they won't be able to live their life and will finish it some day in the future.
Because there's still a stigma running around the world, people still not accept or understand mental health issues which addiction could be one. It should be taken action asap before anything happens in not a good way because it can ruin themselves and the people around them, only professionals can help them.
Taking action can only be possible if someone discloses the issue with someone and tell them what they are going through because it is very difficult to identify an issue that is within someone and not visible physically, sometimes, the parents of a person can identify that something is wrong because people with such issues tend to have changed behavior and those close to them might be able to understand that something is wrong.

But when asked, they might hide their feelings and not let everyone know what's happening which shouldn't be the case, a mental illness is more dangerous than a physical illness because it will make you do things that one should never do.

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June 21, 2023, 06:05:31 PM
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Emotional stress can naturally make some persons go mad. If the brain can't contain the stress of random thinking and analytics or it does and does not rest or get the right nutritional requirements, it can result to madness.
This madness caused by gambling addictions is more or less the cravings.
To just spend a little and win big. To stake this and get this sure bonus. The thought that if I calculate well, I would win big. These all contribute to the madness of addiction.
The gambler may think he is being wise and investing, until he/she gets so indebted and dejected that all he is left with is just to gamble.

Not everyone is advised to gamble and if you do find yourself stressed or feel palpitations that could trigger a heart failure or bankruptcy, please take a break and rest.

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June 21, 2023, 08:10:29 PM
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A lot of people tend to hide their psychological issues from others because they hesitate to discuss things with others, even if they have people that are very close to them, they still sometimes don't share what they feel, and that becomes the reason why many people commit suicide only because they've been suffering from a psychological issue that they never discussed with anyone nor did they seek any help but they just kept it to themselves and it kept eating them from the inside.

It's definitely the responsibility of those who are close to them, especially the parents for their children from an early stage, they should take care of every single thing so that the children don't get into psychological illnesses that will eat them up from the inside and they won't be able to live their life and will finish it some day in the future.
Because there's still a stigma running around the world, people still not accept or understand mental health issues which addiction could be one. It should be taken action asap before anything happens in not a good way because it can ruin themselves and the people around them, only professionals can help them.
Taking action can only be possible if someone discloses the issue with someone and tell them what they are going through because it is very difficult to identify an issue that is within someone and not visible physically, sometimes, the parents of a person can identify that something is wrong because people with such issues tend to have changed behavior and those close to them might be able to understand that something is wrong.

But when asked, they might hide their feelings and not let everyone know what's happening which shouldn't be the case, a mental illness is more dangerous than a physical illness because it will make you do things that one should never do.
There are people who is really that good when it comes on hiding their problems on  which they wouldnt really be tending to make someone do look suspicious that they do have problem or simply not really that making it obvious in the first place.This is why its really hard to point out even every members of the family on  basing up on what they are currently dealing until we do find out on the time that everything is already that severe.
This is why we cant really blame out anytime on the people around him or simply  with our guardians or parents when it comes if there's someone who get addicted to gambling. We know that each one of us does have
their own decisions in life on which it would really be that understandable not all the time we are really that being watched and been guided, which simply means that we are really that making up decisions
on our own on certain situations on which if ever we are really that engaging on gambling then we should really be that careful.

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June 22, 2023, 02:30:41 AM
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There are people who is really that good when it comes on hiding their problems on  which they wouldnt really be tending to make someone do look suspicious that they do have problem or simply not really that making it obvious in the first place.This is why its really hard to point out even every members of the family on  basing up on what they are currently dealing until we do find out on the time that everything is already that severe.
This is why we cant really blame out anytime on the people around him or simply  with our guardians or parents when it comes if there's someone who get addicted to gambling. We know that each one of us does have
their own decisions in life on which it would really be that understandable not all the time we are really that being watched and been guided, which simply means that we are really that making up decisions
on our own on certain situations on which if ever we are really that engaging on gambling then we should really be that careful.
I've seen gambling addicts, but an aging man kidnapping his own granddaughter and demanding a ransom indicates he needs certain medical practitioners to counsel him, he's mentally imbalanced and needs therapy, and this weighs more than I can imagine. Introverts who are gambling addicts are very tough; I've observed a lot of unthinkable and negative effects evolving around them; they are the most likely people who are capable of making unthinkable decisions that will only benefit themselves; they care absolutely nothing about other behaviors and are only interested in achieving their own personal ambition. Most people like to be alone; they do not take risks and only act when necessary.

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June 22, 2023, 07:06:54 AM
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Just imagine how we need to change the system of health care and society so that we can identify psychological problems at an early stage, because most people will never admit that they have any problems on a psychological level, although very many people have such problems to a greater or lesser extent.

In my opinion in order to do that we would have to introduce stricter control over each of us, and no one would like that, so society will never get rid of inadequate behavior of a certain percentage of people. We'll just have to accept it and be more attentive to our children and loved ones to protect our families from it.   
While a more adequate treatment for those which suffer from a condition that is mostly on their minds would be great, the price we will have to pay as a society is too high, after all in these days in which people are connected with each other all the time and they share almost anything too, the only time they do not do so is when they are alone with their thoughts, if people were also forced to share whatever little private thoughts they have left they will surely complain about it and any reform on this regard will be quickly suppressed.

 A good alternative remedy is not to let those who you love to stay alone.

If you will take some time to spend with them, the chance that they will divert some of their attentions and that will help
them to speak about something. Though there are people who are not vocal but the companionship will allow them to
lose focus on what they are doing. It helps not to let them getting addicted.
This was once a failed experiment to me, we've done it before for a family friend that got addicted to gambling and things look better and I personally spend a week with this fella just to make sure he won't be alone, I thought him few other things that can keep him busy and make money in the process, but after several months he went back into gambling, my point is when are you not going to leave them?

There will be a time where they will be alone, the best way to beat gambling adddict is if the gambler is willing to beat the addict himself, they need to put in the work themselves, and that's when the chains of addiction will break finally.

If you are the only one that has the mind to save a gambling addict from addiction, you have alreday failed before you begin.

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June 22, 2023, 04:13:34 PM
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There are people who is really that good when it comes on hiding their problems on  which they wouldnt really be tending to make someone do look suspicious that they do have problem or simply not really that making it obvious in the first place.This is why its really hard to point out even every members of the family on  basing up on what they are currently dealing until we do find out on the time that everything is already that severe.
This is why we cant really blame out anytime on the people around him or simply  with our guardians or parents when it comes if there's someone who get addicted to gambling. We know that each one of us does have
their own decisions in life on which it would really be that understandable not all the time we are really that being watched and been guided, which simply means that we are really that making up decisions
on our own on certain situations on which if ever we are really that engaging on gambling then we should really be that careful.
I've seen gambling addicts, but an aging man kidnapping his own granddaughter and demanding a ransom indicates he needs certain medical practitioners to counsel him, he's mentally imbalanced and needs therapy, and this weighs more than I can imagine. Introverts who are gambling addicts are very tough; I've observed a lot of unthinkable and negative effects evolving around them; they are the most likely people who are capable of making unthinkable decisions that will only benefit themselves; they care absolutely nothing about other behaviors and are only interested in achieving their own personal ambition. Most people like to be alone; they do not take risks and only act when necessary.
It seems to sidestep the issue's broader reach. Addiction is a tangled web of psychological, environmental, and genetic elements; it isn't exclusive to any personality trait. The idea that introverts are more likely to make damaging choices under addiction is a blanket assumption that bypasses the person's unique environment, mental health, and resilience. The elderly man's case indeed underlines the severity of untreated gambling addiction. However, such an act suggests a myriad of underlying mental health issues rather than just addiction. Thus, each case requires its unique assessment, avoiding hasty generalizations based on few observed behaviors.

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This was once a failed experiment to me, we've done it before for a family friend that got addicted to gambling and things look better and I personally spend a week with this fella just to make sure he won't be alone, I thought him few other things that can keep him busy and make money in the process, but after several months he went back into gambling, my point is when are you not going to leave them?

There will be a time where they will be alone, the best way to beat gambling adddict is if the gambler is willing to beat the addict himself, they need to put in the work themselves, and that's when the chains of addiction will break finally.

If you are the only one that has the mind to save a gambling addict from addiction, you have alreday failed before you begin.
Sorry about that, but this is why despite the best intentions of their family members and their friends, the decision and the conviction to leave their gambling addiction behind must come from within the addicted, if this is not the case then it does not matter how much you try to help them, at some point you will have to do something else other than helping them, and once they find themselves on their own they will go back to their old habits and everything that was done for them would be for nothing.
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June 23, 2023, 09:09:07 AM
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Just imagine how we need to change the system of health care and society so that we can identify psychological problems at an early stage, because most people will never admit that they have any problems on a psychological level, although very many people have such problems to a greater or lesser extent.

In my opinion in order to do that we would have to introduce stricter control over each of us, and no one would like that, so society will never get rid of inadequate behavior of a certain percentage of people. We'll just have to accept it and be more attentive to our children and loved ones to protect our families from it.   
While a more adequate treatment for those which suffer from a condition that is mostly on their minds would be great, the price we will have to pay as a society is too high, after all in these days in which people are connected with each other all the time and they share almost anything too, the only time they do not do so is when they are alone with their thoughts, if people were also forced to share whatever little private thoughts they have left they will surely complain about it and any reform on this regard will be quickly suppressed.

 A good alternative remedy is not to let those who you love to stay alone.

If you will take some time to spend with them, the chance that they will divert some of their attentions and that will help
them to speak about something. Though there are people who are not vocal but the companionship will allow them to
lose focus on what they are doing. It helps not to let them getting addicted.
This was once a failed experiment to me, we've done it before for a family friend that got addicted to gambling and things look better and I personally spend a week with this fella just to make sure he won't be alone, I thought him few other things that can keep him busy and make money in the process, but after several months he went back into gambling, my point is when are you not going to leave them?

There will be a time where they will be alone, the best way to beat gambling adddict is if the gambler is willing to beat the addict himself, they need to put in the work themselves, and that's when the chains of addiction will break finally.

If you are the only one that has the mind to save a gambling addict from addiction, you have alreday failed before you begin.
I understand your perspective. Its frustrating when efforts to help someone seemingly vanish into thin air. However, I don't agree with your assertion that the helper is predestined to fail if they're the only ones interested in the recovery. Its true that the afflicted must want to overcome their addiction, but the support from their network can sometimes trigger that desire. Your case with your family friend might have been unsuccessful, but this doesnt represent every case. Relapse is part of recovery, and it shouldnt be seen as a total failure

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