The madness of gambling addicts.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Yeah, having positive mindset is important but having positive mindset in gambling for believing he can recover all of his losses is really a wrong mindset. Every gambler should know and aware if they gamble only for fun, if they can't find the happiness in gambling when they're keep losing, they shouldn't gambling at all. Gambling is a choice and each person has it's own interest, so not all people can become a gambler.

What's actually the point you're making here? Cus if I was able to read properly, the whole conjoined clauses aren't making any sense at the end.... atleast, that would have justified the whole story buh this is different.
Well, addiction is not a thing to be pretty much indecisive about.. whatever happens, be sure of what it's culmination would look like before getting indulged innit. "It's better to refrain from the fantasies in an early stage, than when it's only too late"

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[Silberman]

The biggest stupidity of gamblers is all-in bets in the desire to win back a loss. In this case, it is impossible to win, because after the next loss, this player will again try to repeat the same thing, and in the end he will still lose everything. There is no need to think that such people have any chances for a positive outcome.

Yeah, having positive mindset is important but having positive mindset in gambling for believing he can recover all of his losses is really a wrong mindset. Every gambler should know and aware if they gamble only for fun, if they can't find the happiness in gambling when they're keep losing, they shouldn't gambling at all. Gambling is a choice and each person has it's own interest, so not all people can become a gambler.

If a person wants to gamble they need to make a fair evaluation of who they are, as I have known a lot of people that are very bad losers and as soon as things do not go their way they begin to do all kind of things which are way out of line for something that is just a recreational game, and if a person like that were to gamble then I have no doubts they will get into deep trouble relatively quickly as they will be unable to accept the fact that casinos will beat them most of the time.

[Negotiation]

People who are alcohol addict, their mind stops working when they drink more alcohol but still they don't make decision which ruin their lives whereas the gambling addicts are so cruel to themselves, their mins is also working yet they keep on playing, take loan, sell their belongings only to play more gamble or recover their losses.

I guess the reason for this is that there is money addiction, greediness in gambling, which may not be in other forms of addiction.

Gambling addiction does not always have a negative impact on gambling addicts, those who are willing to do negative things to get some money have had an attitude that is not commendable long before they are familiar with gambling activities. Gambling addicts have a different attitude, some do disgraceful things in order to get money for gambling and some are professional by being ready to take their own risks without any intention of harming others.
Alcoholics have a harder time controlling themselves when they are drunk, while some gamblers are still conscious of what they have just done.

I think both gambling and drinking exist in the world of addiction. Just as an addict cannot stop drinking, an addicted gambler takes a long time to stop gambling because they reach a point where they lose their control. Gambling addiction can seriously affect all areas of life consequences of problem gambling include financial loss and bankruptcy. Professional gamblers have fewer negative effects because they avoid temptation.

[nullama]

~snip~
I think both gambling and drinking exist in the world of addiction. Just as an addict cannot stop drinking, an addicted gambler takes a long time to stop gambling because they reach a point where they lose their control. Gambling addiction can seriously affect all areas of life consequences of problem gambling include financial loss and bankruptcy. Professional gamblers have fewer negative effects because they avoid temptation.

The term professional simply means that you get paid for what you are doing. Otherwise it's a hobby.

So, a professional gambler is extremely rare. Only a handful of people have actually won money against the casino overall, once you count all the costs.

It's extremely rare, but it can happen.

Now, a lot of people just call themselves professional gamblers, but I think that's just part of the addiction.

[Pierre 2]

~snip~
I think both gambling and drinking exist in the world of addiction. Just as an addict cannot stop drinking, an addicted gambler takes a long time to stop gambling because they reach a point where they lose their control. Gambling addiction can seriously affect all areas of life consequences of problem gambling include financial loss and bankruptcy. Professional gamblers have fewer negative effects because they avoid temptation.

The term professional simply means that you get paid for what you are doing. Otherwise it's a hobby.

So, a professional gambler is extremely rare. Only a handful of people have actually won money against the casino overall, once you count all the costs.

It's extremely rare, but it can happen.

Now, a lot of people just call themselves professional gamblers, but I think that's just part of the addiction.

Very different and strange take on this topic but it feels like undeniable truth that someone should be making money to be counted true professional. Otherwise its just hobby lol. I saw no video gamers claiming they are professional unless they join as team, find a sponsor, get wage, win contest etc so on. At the point where a gambler can generate money through he can be called pro. I think we may count sponsorships too - gambler doesn't need to be always making money only through gambling he is mastering.

[ethereumhunter]

People who are alcohol addict, their mind stops working when they drink more alcohol but still they don't make decision which ruin their lives whereas the gambling addicts are so cruel to themselves, their mins is also working yet they keep on playing, take loan, sell their belongings only to play more gamble or recover their losses.

I guess the reason for this is that there is money addiction, greediness in gambling, which may not be in other forms of addiction.

Gambling addiction does not always have a negative impact on gambling addicts, those who are willing to do negative things to get some money have had an attitude that is not commendable long before they are familiar with gambling activities. Gambling addicts have a different attitude, some do disgraceful things in order to get money for gambling and some are professional by being ready to take their own risks without any intention of harming others.
Alcoholics have a harder time controlling themselves when they are drunk, while some gamblers are still conscious of what they have just done.

I think both gambling and drinking exist in the world of addiction. Just as an addict cannot stop drinking, an addicted gambler takes a long time to stop gambling because they reach a point where they lose their control. Gambling addiction can seriously affect all areas of life consequences of problem gambling include financial loss and bankruptcy. Professional gamblers have fewer negative effects because they avoid temptation.

And if someone has an addiction, whether it's gambling or alcohol, it can put their life in danger. I have friends who always consume alcohol every day or every night. He didn't feel any effect on his body but it sure was eating away in the long run, where he also ignored his body's health. And finally, he suffered damage to several organs in the body.

And people addicted to gambling can experience bad things, especially for their families, because there will be a lot of fights between them. Gambling addiction has a bad effect if there is no self-control which can make the person spend a lot of money on gambling. It would be better if people around him could find out the signs of someone experiencing addiction, whether gambling or alcohol, so they could immediately take him to the nearest rehabilitation center.

[Cryptmuster]

Yeah, having positive mindset is important but having positive mindset in gambling for believing he can recover all of his losses is really a wrong mindset. Every gambler should know and aware if they gamble only for fun, if they can't find the happiness in gambling when they're keep losing, they shouldn't gambling at all. Gambling is a choice and each person has it's own interest, so not all people can become a gambler.

That's right, if there are significantly more losses than wins, then there is no point in continuing to do this. In this case, you won’t even get any pleasure even if the game is for fun, what a joy it is if the player constantly loses. Gambling is not the only activity that can bring what we are looking for, but this feeling of adrenaline will still pull back...

[swogerino]

Yeah, having positive mindset is important but having positive mindset in gambling for believing he can recover all of his losses is really a wrong mindset. Every gambler should know and aware if they gamble only for fun, if they can't find the happiness in gambling when they're keep losing, they shouldn't gambling at all. Gambling is a choice and each person has it's own interest, so not all people can become a gambler.

That's right, if there are significantly more losses than wins, then there is no point in continuing to do this. In this case, you won’t even get any pleasure even if the game is for fun, what a joy it is if the player constantly loses. Gambling is not the only activity that can bring what we are looking for, but this feeling of adrenaline will still pull back...

It is not adrenaline anymore,it is just dopamine that has completely paralyzed the brain of a super addicted person.In such case professional help is needed at utmost urgency because the person being in such level of addiction does not think about anything else except gambling and he cannot judge if he is losing or winning,whatever the outcome he is not thinking clearly.The best to do when you want to get out of gambling is to go and place only one or two small sport bets per day just to feel that emotion of gambling while addiction slow slow will fade away,this has worked for me.

[nullama]

~snip~
Very different and strange take on this topic but it feels like undeniable truth that someone should be making money to be counted true professional. Otherwise its just hobby lol. I saw no video gamers claiming they are professional unless they join as team, find a sponsor, get wage, win contest etc so on. At the point where a gambler can generate money through he can be called pro. I think we may count sponsorships too - gambler doesn't need to be always making money only through gambling he is mastering.

Well, that's true, you can be a professional YouTuber showing your gambling on your channel for example, because you are getting paid for the ads that you run on the channel.

As long as you actually get money from something you are doing, instead of paying for doing it, then you are a pro, a professional. That's how you "turn pro", when you start making money with anything.

[chigo]

~snip~
Very different and strange take on this topic but it feels like undeniable truth that someone should be making money to be counted true professional. Otherwise its just hobby lol. I saw no video gamers claiming they are professional unless they join as team, find a sponsor, get wage, win contest etc so on. At the point where a gambler can generate money through he can be called pro. I think we may count sponsorships too - gambler doesn't need to be always making money only through gambling he is mastering.

Well, that's true, you can be a professional YouTuber showing your gambling on your channel for example, because you are getting paid for the ads that you run on the channel.

As long as you actually get money from something you are doing, instead of paying for doing it, then you are a pro, a professional. That's how you "turn pro", when you start making money with anything.

this means that the YouTuber is deceiving many people, he or she is not gambling but making money from. it is important for us to pay close attention to all kinds of video content on YouTube, if it turns out that these videos can lead us to become gambling addicts then it would be nice to avoid that especially for those who have weak emotional control, it is not impossible in the future they will do something who are stupid when gambling turns them out to be ruined.

[piebeyb]

Yeah, having positive mindset is important but having positive mindset in gambling for believing he can recover all of his losses is really a wrong mindset. Every gambler should know and aware if they gamble only for fun, if they can't find the happiness in gambling when they're keep losing, they shouldn't gambling at all. Gambling is a choice and each person has it's own interest, so not all people can become a gambler.

That's right, if there are significantly more losses than wins, then there is no point in continuing to do this. In this case, you won’t even get any pleasure even if the game is for fun, what a joy it is if the player constantly loses. Gambling is not the only activity that can bring what we are looking for, but this feeling of adrenaline will still pull back...

Adrenaline is what makes people come back to enjoy that feeling, because gambling when they really enjoy gambling they will find feelings that cannot be expressed in words so it is difficult to write down, the adrenaline that is felt usually continues to make someone continue to play even though spending a little money to get the fun won't be a problem.

I also often feel that it's not about making money and profits, I'm not hypocritical I also need to win but that's not something that's the main thing for me to pursue when gambling because when we don't achieve it we will be disappointed and continue playing without enjoying the game, this is what is called playing our mindset so that it is not focused on winning but on the pleasure of gambling. it's true that not only gambling can feel adrenaline but there are many other activities that we can produce adrenaline, I still focus on my gambling activities. because my life is here 

[Pamadar]

Yeah, having positive mindset is important but having positive mindset in gambling for believing he can recover all of his losses is really a wrong mindset. Every gambler should know and aware if they gamble only for fun, if they can't find the happiness in gambling when they're keep losing, they shouldn't gambling at all. Gambling is a choice and each person has it's own interest, so not all people can become a gambler.

That's right, if there are significantly more losses than wins, then there is no point in continuing to do this. In this case, you won’t even get any pleasure even if the game is for fun, what a joy it is if the player constantly loses. Gambling is not the only activity that can bring what we are looking for, but this feeling of adrenaline will still pull back...

No sense if you are aiming to have some fun and you just keep losing your money.

For sure, even you are just looking to kill some time and enjoy, you are still trying to win. It will be an additional entertainment
if you will manage to win, the problem with is when you feel that excitement, the feeling of allowing you to cash out some money,
the adrenaline to keep bringing you back, that's the thing that will lead you to seek for more.

[l3pox]

Yeah, having positive mindset is important but having positive mindset in gambling for believing he can recover all of his losses is really a wrong mindset. Every gambler should know and aware if they gamble only for fun, if they can't find the happiness in gambling when they're keep losing, they shouldn't gambling at all. Gambling is a choice and each person has it's own interest, so not all people can become a gambler.

That's right, if there are significantly more losses than wins, then there is no point in continuing to do this. In this case, you won’t even get any pleasure even if the game is for fun, what a joy it is if the player constantly loses. Gambling is not the only activity that can bring what we are looking for, but this feeling of adrenaline will still pull back...

No sense if you are aiming to have some fun and you just keep losing your money.

For sure, even you are just looking to kill some time and enjoy, you are still trying to win. It will be an additional entertainment
if you will manage to win, the problem with is when you feel that excitement, the feeling of allowing you to cash out some money,
the adrenaline to keep bringing you back, that's the thing that will lead you to seek for more.

depends on how you're losing too but agree with you that gambling is different than trading in this aspect
you simply can't make it all back in one trade...

fixed risk bets solves the adrenaline rush of winning
staying calm even after big wins or big losses

[maydna]

~snip~
Very different and strange take on this topic but it feels like undeniable truth that someone should be making money to be counted true professional. Otherwise its just hobby lol. I saw no video gamers claiming they are professional unless they join as team, find a sponsor, get wage, win contest etc so on. At the point where a gambler can generate money through he can be called pro. I think we may count sponsorships too - gambler doesn't need to be always making money only through gambling he is mastering.

Well, that's true, you can be a professional YouTuber showing your gambling on your channel for example, because you are getting paid for the ads that you run on the channel.

As long as you actually get money from something you are doing, instead of paying for doing it, then you are a pro, a professional. That's how you "turn pro", when you start making money with anything.

this means that the YouTuber is deceiving many people, he or she is not gambling but making money from. it is important for us to pay close attention to all kinds of video content on YouTube, if it turns out that these videos can lead us to become gambling addicts then it would be nice to avoid that especially for those who have weak emotional control, it is not impossible in the future they will do something who are stupid when gambling turns them out to be ruined.

A professional will not say they are a professional gambler, but it may show how they say something or words. Also, if you watch from Youtube, I think a "professional" can trick you into providing a well-arranged video to make him look like a professional gambler.

A streamer who wants to make money from YouTube videos will invite people to join but no further explanation from him. And unfortunately, the invitation from the streamer was taken too seriously by the people who watched it, so they finally joined and spent money on gambling.

[nullama]

~snip~
A professional will not say they are a professional gambler, but it may show how they say something or words. Also, if you watch from Youtube, I think a "professional" can trick you into providing a well-arranged video to make him look like a professional gambler.

A streamer who wants to make money from YouTube videos will invite people to join but no further explanation from him. And unfortunately, the invitation from the streamer was taken too seriously by the people who watched it, so they finally joined and spent money on gambling.

Come on man, anyone asking people on youtube to join anything means that they are playing you...

Why on earth would you think some random person will take their time to create a video so that random people that person has never met will make money?

Come on man...

[Silberman]

Well, that's true, you can be a professional YouTuber showing your gambling on your channel for example, because you are getting paid for the ads that you run on the channel.

As long as you actually get money from something you are doing, instead of paying for doing it, then you are a pro, a professional. That's how you "turn pro", when you start making money with anything.

this means that the YouTuber is deceiving many people, he or she is not gambling but making money from. it is important for us to pay close attention to all kinds of video content on YouTube, if it turns out that these videos can lead us to become gambling addicts then it would be nice to avoid that especially for those who have weak emotional control, it is not impossible in the future they will do something who are stupid when gambling turns them out to be ruined.

In my opinion someone which has those characteristics would have ended up ruining their life one way or another, as it is known that someone that develops an addiction now is more susceptible to develop a new kind of addiction at some point during their lives, so even if they would have been able to somehow avoid becoming gambling addicts then if they did not maintained some incredibly high level of discipline then they will develop a different kind of addiction anyway.

[darewaller]

Very different and strange take on this topic but it feels like undeniable truth that someone should be making money to be counted true professional. Otherwise its just hobby lol. I saw no video gamers claiming they are professional unless they join as team, find a sponsor, get wage, win contest etc so on. At the point where a gambler can generate money through he can be called pro. I think we may count sponsorships too - gambler doesn't need to be always making money only through gambling he is mastering.

I think you can still be called as a professional even if you are not earning with your skill. To earn is only a matter of choice but what values mostly by the professional is their talent. They are called professional because they are really good at what they are doing. I am not really sure if hobby is different from it but I know that you can also make money out of your hobby.

It's a great way to make a living this way because you enjoy what you are doing and you won't feel like you are working. A professional gambler can also have other talents and they can choose to make money on those. They can also apply for a real job if they want to. To have multiple income streams is always better, as it provides us more security.

[Docnaster]

Well, that's true, you can be a professional YouTuber showing your gambling on your channel for example, because you are getting paid for the ads that you run on the channel.

As long as you actually get money from something you are doing, instead of paying for doing it, then you are a pro, a professional. That's how you "turn pro", when you start making money with anything.

this means that the YouTuber is deceiving many people, he or she is not gambling but making money from. it is important for us to pay close attention to all kinds of video content on YouTube, if it turns out that these videos can lead us to become gambling addicts then it would be nice to avoid that especially for those who have weak emotional control, it is not impossible in the future they will do something who are stupid when gambling turns them out to be ruined.

I do not see it that the YouTubers are deceiving us. Many celebrities are hired for advertisement purposes and it does not really mean that the celebrities are using the product. For YouTubers to promote gambling on their channels doesn't mean they are gamblers and neither does it mean that they must gamble. It is advertisement that is paid for .
For instance, even here in the forum, I have seen people wearing gambling signatures in this forum but yet they don't know what gambling is about.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Well, that's true, you can be a professional YouTuber showing your gambling on your channel for example, because you are getting paid for the ads that you run on the channel.

As long as you actually get money from something you are doing, instead of paying for doing it, then you are a pro, a professional. That's how you "turn pro", when you start making money with anything.

this means that the YouTuber is deceiving many people, he or she is not gambling but making money from. it is important for us to pay close attention to all kinds of video content on YouTube, if it turns out that these videos can lead us to become gambling addicts then it would be nice to avoid that especially for those who have weak emotional control, it is not impossible in the future they will do something who are stupid when gambling turns them out to be ruined.

In my opinion someone which has those characteristics would have ended up ruining their life one way or another, as it is known that someone that develops an addiction now is more susceptible to develop a new kind of addiction at some point during their lives, so even if they would have been able to somehow avoid becoming gambling addicts then if they did not maintained some incredibly high level of discipline then they will develop a different kind of addiction anyway.

Well, i personally think every human does have some type of addiction they are battling with, the truth is that addiction does not end at being addicted to gambling, there is the..
Drug addiction
Alcohol addiction
Sex addiction
Porn addiction which also leads to being addicted to masturbation
Movie addiction
Phone addiction ETC.

All the above are different types of addictions, some people today are addicted to their smart phones without even knowing, some are addicted to watching movies and they don't even know it, so in one way or the other, every human is addicted or have a very high chance of being addicted to some thing that is totally outside or not related to gambling, and it takes great discipline to keep one away from any of those addictions.

[Pamadar]

Yeah, having positive mindset is important but having positive mindset in gambling for believing he can recover all of his losses is really a wrong mindset. Every gambler should know and aware if they gamble only for fun, if they can't find the happiness in gambling when they're keep losing, they shouldn't gambling at all. Gambling is a choice and each person has it's own interest, so not all people can become a gambler.

That's right, if there are significantly more losses than wins, then there is no point in continuing to do this. In this case, you won’t even get any pleasure even if the game is for fun, what a joy it is if the player constantly loses. Gambling is not the only activity that can bring what we are looking for, but this feeling of adrenaline will still pull back...

No sense if you are aiming to have some fun and you just keep losing your money.

For sure, even you are just looking to kill some time and enjoy, you are still trying to win. It will be an additional entertainment
if you will manage to win, the problem with is when you feel that excitement, the feeling of allowing you to cash out some money,
the adrenaline to keep bringing you back, that's the thing that will lead you to seek for more.

depends on how you're losing too but agree with you that gambling is different than trading in this aspect
you simply can't make it all back in one trade...

fixed risk bets solves the adrenaline rush of winning
staying calm even after big wins or big losses

If that can be executed, and there are no other things, that will affect you in doing that.

I can say that it will resolve everything, fixed bets and nothing to exceed, with a calm mindset and with a good setup
before and after you play the game, everything can be avoided if you know how to handle things the right way, only
exemption is when addiction already exists, and that's another thing.