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September 16, 2023, 08:17:50 PM
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Does anyone think that United may have trouble getting out of the group stages? I mean it looks like Greenwood had to be sent away, Sancho is having trouble, Anthony may have to be cut, Amrabat is injured, Varane is injured and there was one more player that mattered who was injured but I forgot who it was.

So, they are doing quite terribly right now and the team is in chaos at the moment. They have Bayern in their group which I am 100% sure that will end up being the first on the group, and the other two teams are Galatasaray and Copenhagen, do you think either of those teams have a chance to beat United because all the things going around with them? I feel like there is a possibility of it happening for sure.

Manchester United are really dealing with these problems as well recently. But I don't think they will be affected badly because of this news. At the moment they need to improve their current performance. Because they couldn't make a good start to the season. Even in a match they win they don't play convincingly well.

When it comes to their group in the Champions League Bayern Munich can already be seen finished as leader. If we think about which one of Galatasaray and Copenhagen might make difficulties for Manchester United I can answer it as Galatasaray. Because they have strengthened their squad with really quality players. But can they collect at least 3 points against Manchester United? It is still really difficult I think.

Bayern Munich are not so tough you know, Yes they have past records of winning the Champions League and also attacking as they should but Manchester United remains a big club and can displace Bayern Munich from the top of that group.
They should face themselves on Tuesday, I really have that believe they won't get more than a draw against Manchester United. Manchester United needs time to create a good side. Struggles just like they had last season.

I think we should be realistic here its not a fantasy thing. Manchester United are not that of threat now i dont see them at any chance to win Bayern Munich in the forth coming game. Bayern Munich has proven themselves in most champions league season and this season is no exceptional. If Manchester United where playing better now I would have believe they might win but even if Bayern Munich are not as strong as they were in the previous seasons i dont see them been defeated in the group stage.

I also think Manchester United does not stand a chance against Bayern Munchen as they lost today against Brighton at home in another shameful game in front of their home fans.When they can't beat Brighton at home how can they even remotely think that they can beat Bayern Munchen?I know the ball is round and anything can happen yet I don't think that they have the right psychological attitude to face this big game.

Finally on 19 September we will finally start seeing Champions League matches,it has been so long since that final of Manchester City vs Inter like it seems a decade and not just three months ago.

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September 16, 2023, 08:36:32 PM
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Does anyone think that United may have trouble getting out of the group stages? I mean it looks like Greenwood had to be sent away, Sancho is having trouble, Anthony may have to be cut, Amrabat is injured, Varane is injured and there was one more player that mattered who was injured but I forgot who it was.

So, they are doing quite terribly right now and the team is in chaos at the moment. They have Bayern in their group which I am 100% sure that will end up being the first on the group, and the other two teams are Galatasaray and Copenhagen, do you think either of those teams have a chance to beat United because all the things going around with them? I feel like there is a possibility of it happening for sure.

Manchester United are really dealing with these problems as well recently. But I don't think they will be affected badly because of this news. At the moment they need to improve their current performance. Because they couldn't make a good start to the season. Even in a match they win they don't play convincingly well.

When it comes to their group in the Champions League Bayern Munich can already be seen finished as leader. If we think about which one of Galatasaray and Copenhagen might make difficulties for Manchester United I can answer it as Galatasaray. Because they have strengthened their squad with really quality players. But can they collect at least 3 points against Manchester United? It is still really difficult I think.

Bayern Munich are not so tough you know, Yes they have past records of winning the Champions League and also attacking as they should but Manchester United remains a big club and can displace Bayern Munich from the top of that group.
They should face themselves on Tuesday, I really have that believe they won't get more than a draw against Manchester United. Manchester United needs time to create a good side. Struggles just like they had last season.

I think we should be realistic here its not a fantasy thing. Manchester United are not that of threat now i dont see them at any chance to win Bayern Munich in the forth coming game. Bayern Munich has proven themselves in most champions league season and this season is no exceptional. If Manchester United where playing better now I would have believe they might win but even if Bayern Munich are not as strong as they were in the previous seasons i dont see them been defeated in the group stage.

I also think Manchester United does not stand a chance against Bayern Munchen as they lost today against Brighton at home in another shameful game in front of their home fans.When they can't beat Brighton at home how can they even remotely think that they can beat Bayern Munchen?I know the ball is round and anything can happen yet I don't think that they have the right psychological attitude to face this big game.

Finally on 19 September we will finally start seeing Champions League matches,it has been so long since that final of Manchester City vs Inter like it seems a decade and not just three months ago.

This is the champions league we are talking about here. Not the premier league. Manchester United will have known that their strength would be incomparable to Bayern's and would be aiming to secure a draw at most. They will also be aiming to at least secure a spot in the Europa league should their chances run out in the premier league and champions league respectively.
The defense line is really porous right now for Manchester United, it makes me wonder what kind of a team Ten Hag has been building since he was signed on. What would have Sir Alex done differently?

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September 16, 2023, 08:39:43 PM
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Meanwhile, Bayern Munich appears stronger and performs consistently in the domestic league and we can see that the depth of Bayern Munich's players is superior to Manchester United, which is currently having a few problems and it looks like Erik Ten Hag will fail again.
But if he who favors MU wants to defend and bet on his favorite club, I think he must be prepared to lose his money, because logical thinking is important.

There is one peculiar trait about the uefa champions league and over the years i have been unable to define it. The truth that league form has no effect on european form; either europa league or champions league. You can lose weekly in your league, and win your champions league games steadily; it happens almost yearly; inter milan last season, sevilla in the europa too.

On the contratry; i think Manchester United can get a result against Bayern Munich.
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September 16, 2023, 08:45:12 PM
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I also think Manchester United does not stand a chance against Bayern Munchen as they lost today against Brighton at home in another shameful game in front of their home fans.When they can't beat Brighton at home how can they even remotely think that they can beat Bayern Munchen?I know the ball is round and anything can happen yet I don't think that they have the right psychological attitude to face this big game.

Finally on 19 September we will finally start seeing Champions League matches,it has been so long since that final of Manchester City vs Inter like it seems a decade and not just three months ago.
Manchester United have bad capital for facing UEFA Champion League opening match against Bayern Munich, its seems difficult after losing 1-3 over Brighton Albion they will get good start in first match have strong opponent teams Bayern Munich. Actually will give psychological impact for Manchester United players after losing in Premier League and they don't have good start in domestic league right now have loss 3 of 5 matches.

Finally in this middle week we are watching UEFA Champion League group stage matches, there are have new comer team participant in Champion  League like Union Berlin as Bundesliga participant and Newcastle United from Premier League team, how potential with newcomer team will make surprise in Champion League?

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September 16, 2023, 09:12:20 PM
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Bayern Munich are not so tough you know, Yes they have past records of winning the Champions League and also attacking as they should but Manchester United remains a big club and can displace Bayern Munich from the top of that group.
They should face themselves on Tuesday, I really have that believe they won't get more than a draw against Manchester United. Manchester United needs time to create a good side. Struggles just like they had last season.

Bayern Munich still should go top of the group, Manchester United can be unfortunate, they can go from top to  bottom but qualification for the next group stage would be a must.

So far, Bayern has shown quite good results under the guidance of Thomas Tuchel. Kane, is the answer to their need for a center forward. Even though he is an established striker, Kane nevertheless needs a stronger bond with his teammates. So, the chemistry between the players becomes even closer. In this way, Bayern will reach the level that Tuchel wants. It's only a matter of time for Bayern to become an even stronger team. Unfortunately, Bayern is a little weak for goalkeepers. There are not many options other than continuing to play Sven Ulreich while waiting for Neuer to fully recover from his broken leg.

On the other hand, Manchester United is being hit by a storm of injuries, which has resulted in a decline in their performance. Ten Hag will have many obstacles to prepare his team's squad for the away match to the Allianz Arena, Bayern Munich's headquarters.  Several important players, especially defenders, are reported to be absent from the match against Bayern. and this, will be a serious problem for Ten Hag. I suspect that in the next fight, it will most likely not result in a draw.
Bayern's position as the home team is very advantageous. but the problem is, the goalkeeper cannot be relied on that much. So, Tuchel has work to cover the weaknesses of his squad.  
On the other hand, with an unfavorable situation, this means that Ten Hag must formulate a strategy so that his team can provide resistance against Bayern. Well, there's still time left for this match. So, let's just follow every development.

Well said... Bayern Munich fixed the centre attacking player role with Harry Kane, but they jave loopholes in midfied. It'll take some big European games to see this though. For the Goalkeeper, they should get someone who can use both legs comfortably under pressure.

This storm too shall pass, I don't support blindly. They have good set of midfielder's but not defender's. Though, I feel like, Casemiro needs a supportive midfielder with skills. Erikson has not been that man since the start of the season, he lacks strength, I don't blame him though, because I do know the heart condition issues.

Manchester United defense was very calm and dull you know why? Lisandro Martinez looks like he's being asked to play even with the Injury, he is to most aggressive player, he should have been and Lindelof calm but he bearly go in for that hard tackle not to put his career I shambles. ( I've been in that state, so I know how he's been trying to keep up with himself, since United has no other aggressive defender as him. )

Against Bayern Munich, I'm making my prediction for that game, Bayern Munich will find it difficult to win Manchester United. Most likely the game should end a draw game.

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September 16, 2023, 10:53:29 PM
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I also think Manchester United does not stand a chance against Bayern Munchen as they lost today against Brighton at home in another shameful game in front of their home fans.When they can't beat Brighton at home how can they even remotely think that they can beat Bayern Munchen?I know the ball is round and anything can happen yet I don't think that they have the right psychological attitude to face this big game.

Finally on 19 September we will finally start seeing Champions League matches,it has been so long since that final of Manchester City vs Inter like it seems a decade and not just three months ago.
Manchester United have bad capital for facing UEFA Champion League opening match against Bayern Munich, its seems difficult after losing 1-3 over Brighton Albion they will get good start in first match have strong opponent teams Bayern Munich. Actually will give psychological impact for Manchester United players after losing in Premier League and they don't have good start in domestic league right now have loss 3 of 5 matches.

Finally in this middle week we are watching UEFA Champion League group stage matches, there are have new comer team participant in Champion  League like Union Berlin as Bundesliga participant and Newcastle United from Premier League team, how potential with newcomer team will make surprise in Champion League?

I don't really know how much the Glazers are still involved and whether they are observing closely what ten Haag is doing at the moment, but I think they drop further down the table in the Premier League and lose their first game in the Champions League as well, we might soon see the Manchester United bosses take some action and perhaps sack him. It is not going to happen in a week or two I suppose, but I wouldn't vouch for ten Haag to still be the coach by the end of October. If the next three weeks continue like this, I am not sure he has a future ahead of him at that club.

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September 16, 2023, 10:55:46 PM
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I also think Manchester United does not stand a chance against Bayern Munchen as they lost today against Brighton at home in another shameful game in front of their home fans.When they can't beat Brighton at home how can they even remotely think that they can beat Bayern Munchen?I know the ball is round and anything can happen yet I don't think that they have the right psychological attitude to face this big game.

Finally on 19 September we will finally start seeing Champions League matches,it has been so long since that final of Manchester City vs Inter like it seems a decade and not just three months ago.
Manchester United have bad capital for facing UEFA Champion League opening match against Bayern Munich, its seems difficult after losing 1-3 over Brighton Albion they will get good start in first match have strong opponent teams Bayern Munich. Actually will give psychological impact for Manchester United players after losing in Premier League and they don't have good start in domestic league right now have loss 3 of 5 matches.

Finally in this middle week we are watching UEFA Champion League group stage matches, there are have new comer team participant in Champion  League like Union Berlin as Bundesliga participant and Newcastle United from Premier League team, how potential with newcomer team will make surprise in Champion League?
Having lost at home today against a club like Brighton, it'll be very difficult for Manchester United to take anything from their UEFA Champions League game next week.  when they face German champions Bayern Munich at the Allianz Arena. The result of their game against Brighton is surely gonna affect the mentality of United players which will make it more difficult for them to get anything from that game.
Bayern Munich's new signing Harry Kane will be playing against an English club for the first time since he left Tottenham Hotspur in the summer and will definitely want to make a big impact on that game.

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September 16, 2023, 11:02:04 PM
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Barcelona face easily opponent teams in this group drawing depend last season they have difficult opponent from Bayern Munich until Inter Milan and can't qualified to next round. Its seems difference with this season of group stage opponent teams, Barcelona teams opponent looks not difficult against Porto, Shaktar and Antwerp have bigger chance for the first time in last two season for qualifying to the next round. Opening Champion League matches group stage, Barcelona against Antwerp I think great opportunity for Barcelona first three points in group stage match before facing difficult teams Porto or Shakstar upcoming match.

Only Barcelona has an easy group stage this season, in the Champions League, Barcelona will win all of there match in the group, and I don't think Barcelona will lose even one match in the group stage unless they don't put effort. I believe Porto will give them a rough time in the group competition, but I am confident they will still beat them. Barcelona has many players now who can help the club fight for the champions league trophy, but I don't think Barcelona can win it now, because Manchester City are stronger than them. I'm just thinking that if Manchester City, Real Madrid, or Bayern Munich do not carry the champions league, I can consider it for Barcelona.
Barcelona is probably lucky enough in this case as the team was facing easy opponents in UCL compared with last season. It will be so dumb if barcelona will not able to take this opportunity for winning as a group winner in this easy group.
Barcelona will not face the same opponents like last season like bayern and intermilan which were able pressuing barcelona in the hard position. The club is in the safe zone.
It's quite easy for barcelona to pass into the play off stage as long as it will be consistently winning the game. Xavi needs to fully prepare its squad to face this condition. He needs to be careful with any teams in the group even though these were weak teams.
It's caused by barcelona can also make a blunder in the result the club will be losing against the weakteam in the UCL. Barcelona is just as lucky as manchester city

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September 16, 2023, 11:44:00 PM
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Maybe they are not the biggest threat in terms of losing against them, but they were the team along with Manchester City last season who had the least overall losses in the Premier League. While I am not too confident that they will win most of their games in the group stage of the Champions League, I do think that it will be difficult to beat them. The point differences could be very narrow at some point due to a couple of draws. That could still make the group interesting to watch.

We also look at the group and we don't really know the details yet that will be relevant once the time comes and those games take place. There can be injuries and suspensions as well. If Milan has bad luck and loses two key players, the odds might change in favor of Newcastle maybe.
Of course, but I will not intend to debate the big or small possibility of the chances of the 4 teams in Group F. For me all the matches in Group F will be very difficult and I myself am not really sure who has the right to qualify for the round of 16 big. If Milan and PSG qualify, then of course that is good, but if Dortmund and Newcastle qualify then that is amazing.

This team's performance has been unpredictable for a number of reasons, but I have noticed that Newcastle's defense this season has looked weak. Newcastle have conceded 7 goals in their last 4 matches, but I can have more confidence in Newcastle if they manage to beat Milan and PSG in the first leg. Anything is possible, of course.

I agree with everything you said here and I especially like the part that it doesn't matter whether it is Dortmund and Newcastle or PSG and Milan. The reason is that PSG is not the PSG from a few years ago when everyone was looking forward to the supposedly best offense grinding through the knockout games. It is only Mbappe and I think PSG is more average than many believe them to be.

Newcastle is the same thing, they are not the same recently as they were when they played their best last season. It is exciting to have a "new" team play there because they have literally been out of the Champions League forever. That's why I like it when there is a newcomer with potential, but that potential seems to be smaller than I thought until a few weeks ago.

Dortmund has had some great CL seasons and they can be a tough nut to crack but at the same time they have their downs as well. It's an open race in that group, but the difference I think is that usually a group has one or two favorites whereas in this case I would say that they are all of quite the same strength with minor differences.

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September 16, 2023, 11:52:21 PM
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I think we should be realistic here its not a fantasy thing. Manchester United are not that of threat now i dont see them at any chance to win Bayern Munich in the forth coming game. Bayern Munich has proven themselves in most champions league season and this season is no exceptional. If Manchester United where playing better now I would have believe they might win but even if Bayern Munich are not as strong as they were in the previous seasons i dont see them been defeated in the group stage.
I just see manchester united has average performance like galatasaray and copenhagen. Manchester united is still far less compared with bayern. I doubtful if MU will able to win the match against bayern in the first match day of UCL group stage.
Bayern was not doing so well this season but the club can still perform consistently in the bundesliga. Manchester united had been suffering a lot of losses in the premier league which is greatly affecting the mentality from the players to face bayern soon.
Manchester united probably will play without antony and some important players which are still facing injury at this moment. Hojlund was not able to perform so well against brighton which makes me feeling so skeptical with manchester united.
I expect nothing from MU. Getting draw against bayern in allianz arena will be big achievement for manhcester united. People know how strong bayern when playing at home in UCL.

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September 16, 2023, 11:54:22 PM
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I think we should be realistic here its not a fantasy thing. Manchester United are not that of threat now i dont see them at any chance to win Bayern Munich in the forth coming game. Bayern Munich has proven themselves in most champions league season and this season is no exceptional. If Manchester United where playing better now I would have believe they might win but even if Bayern Munich are not as strong as they were in the previous seasons i dont see them been defeated in the group stage.
I have the confidence that Bayern Munich is going to win their match against Manchester United. We all saw how Manchester United played against Brighton in today’s Premier League match, they lost to Brighton. It’s embarrassing that they couldn’t win the match. Is it the same Manchester United that will be facing Bayern Munich in the Champions League, and they think they will win? Manchester United's performance is really poor this season, and I don’t really think they will go far in Champions League this season.

Bayern Munich's attack is very strong. And this team always performs well against weak defenses. I don't think Manchester United will be able to put up any resistance against Bayern Munich.
Manchester United defense is very weak, I can’t just imagine the amount of goals which Bayern Munich will be scoring in the match, Manchester United defense is so poor, so it will be very easy for Bayern Munich to penetrate.
Bayern Munich has quite a quality striker this season, even Harry Kane has quite a long experience with EPL teams. So that will be the advantage that Bayern Munich has in their meeting in the first leg of the group phase against Manchester United. I think with current strength Bayern Munich is one of the strongest teams in Group A.

Manchester United were not at their best because they were easily beaten by Brighton in front of their supporters. Moreover, several players are injured which will hinder their performance when facing Bayern Munich. I predict Bayern Munich will win this match, especially since the first leg match will be played at the Allianz Arena stadium so Bayern Munich is the favorite in this match.

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September 17, 2023, 12:13:18 AM
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I think we should be realistic here its not a fantasy thing. Manchester United are not that of threat now i dont see them at any chance to win Bayern Munich in the forth coming game. Bayern Munich has proven themselves in most champions league season and this season is no exceptional. If Manchester United where playing better now I would have believe they might win but even if Bayern Munich are not as strong as they were in the previous seasons i dont see them been defeated in the group stage.
I have the confidence that Bayern Munich is going to win their match against Manchester United. We all saw how Manchester United played against Brighton in today’s Premier League match, they lost to Brighton. It’s embarrassing that they couldn’t win the match. Is it the same Manchester United that will be facing Bayern Munich in the Champions League, and they think they will win? Manchester United's performance is really poor this season, and I don’t really think they will go far in Champions League this season.

Bayern Munich's attack is very strong. And this team always performs well against weak defenses. I don't think Manchester United will be able to put up any resistance against Bayern Munich.
Manchester United defense is very weak, I can’t just imagine the amount of goals which Bayern Munich will be scoring in the match, Manchester United defense is so poor, so it will be very easy for Bayern Munich to penetrate.
Bayern Munich has quite a quality striker this season, even Harry Kane has quite a long experience with EPL teams. So that will be the advantage that Bayern Munich has in their meeting in the first leg of the group phase against Manchester United. I think with current strength Bayern Munich is one of the strongest teams in Group A.

Manchester United were not at their best because they were easily beaten by Brighton in front of their supporters. Moreover, several players are injured which will hinder their performance when facing Bayern Munich. I predict Bayern Munich will win this match, especially since the first leg match will be played at the Allianz Arena stadium so Bayern Munich is the favorite in this match.
Bayern in own stadium don't lose match in group stage by 10 year if I good remember Cheesy Unfortunately 0 chance for United.
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September 17, 2023, 02:10:28 AM
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Bayern Munich has quite a quality striker this season, even Harry Kane has quite a long experience with EPL teams. So that will be the advantage that Bayern Munich has in their meeting in the first leg of the group phase against Manchester United. I think with current strength Bayern Munich is one of the strongest teams in Group A.

Manchester United were not at their best because they were easily beaten by Brighton in front of their supporters. Moreover, several players are injured which will hinder their performance when facing Bayern Munich. I predict Bayern Munich will win this match, especially since the first leg match will be played at the Allianz Arena stadium so Bayern Munich is the favorite in this match.
I'm die hard Chelsea fan, despite my team not surviving up to the level of UEFA Champions League spots, the ones that did will return back to EPL with nothing to show for, its not bad mouth or wish but true facts. I'm contended about my team's predicament, to see the decline of Manchester United present status and fans, they did actually deserved it because they were the ones bragging about qualifying for UCL Competition, let's see what the Red Devils have to offered when they meet Bayern Munich, I'm confident and would place my wagers in favour of the Bavarians. Bayern Munich will hosts Manchester United at the Allianz Arena in the first leg of UCL football. It would be quite an easy easy game for the Bavarians, because Manchester United are suffering and having no single strength at all to match up the level of the Bundesliga giant. Thomas Tuchel would be looking forward to smash Erik Ten Hag in this round when they meetup.

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September 17, 2023, 07:42:23 AM
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Bayern Munich has quite a quality striker this season, even Harry Kane has quite a long experience with EPL teams. So that will be the advantage that Bayern Munich has in their meeting in the first leg of the group phase against Manchester United. I think with current strength Bayern Munich is one of the strongest teams in Group A.

Manchester United were not at their best because they were easily beaten by Brighton in front of their supporters. Moreover, several players are injured which will hinder their performance when facing Bayern Munich. I predict Bayern Munich will win this match, especially since the first leg match will be played at the Allianz Arena stadium so Bayern Munich is the favorite in this match.
from assessment, actually we can not just look at the experience of reliable players in the domestic league, but we also have to look at the readiness of these reliable players to welcome this first leg match or we can also see whether Kane has good experience in the UCL, not just in EPL. I know that currently Bayern Munich will be the favorite for everyone, but we must always be careful because surprises often occur in every match and we all know that Man United has had its glory even though it is currently very bad.

however, if you look in depth at the performance of all the players between these two teams, Man United is much worse than Bayern Munich, which has stronger readiness.

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September 17, 2023, 08:04:11 AM
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Bayern Munich has quite a quality striker this season, even Harry Kane has quite a long experience with EPL teams. So that will be the advantage that Bayern Munich has in their meeting in the first leg of the group phase against Manchester United. I think with current strength Bayern Munich is one of the strongest teams in Group A.

Manchester United were not at their best because they were easily beaten by Brighton in front of their supporters. Moreover, several players are injured which will hinder their performance when facing Bayern Munich. I predict Bayern Munich will win this match, especially since the first leg match will be played at the Allianz Arena stadium so Bayern Munich is the favorite in this match.
from assessment, actually we can not just look at the experience of reliable players in the domestic league, but we also have to look at the readiness of these reliable players to welcome this first leg match or we can also see whether Kane has good experience in the UCL, not just in EPL. I know that currently Bayern Munich will be the favorite for everyone, but we must always be careful because surprises often occur in every match and we all know that Man United has had its glory even though it is currently very bad.

however, if you look in depth at the performance of all the players between these two teams, Man United is much worse than Bayern Munich, which has stronger readiness.
Football without doubt is game that's full of surprises and that's why football fans are always left in awe in some unexpected results at the end of games almost everyone had predicted will be won by a certain team.
That being said, we also can't shy away from the fact that a team's form before playing any game does have some physical and psychological effects on them and that's why majority of football faithfuls aren't seeing any chance if Manchester United taking anything away from their game against Bayern Munich when they visit the German champions for their first UEFA Champions League match of the season at the Allianz Arena. United's current form is just too poor when compared to their German counterparts and with the help of Harry Kane who was signed by Bayern in the summer, it'll be even more difficult to stop the host from winning that particular encounter.

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September 17, 2023, 09:31:57 AM
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Bayern Munich's attack is very strong. And this team always performs well against weak defenses. I don't think Manchester United will be able to put up any resistance against Bayern Munich.
Manchester United defense is very weak, I can’t just imagine the amount of goals which Bayern Munich will be scoring in the match, Manchester United defense is so poor, so it will be very easy for Bayern Munich to penetrate.
Currently Manchester United can be said to be finished before the match against Bayern Munich later and it's no wonder their defense is so weak that they often concede goals. Moreover, Andre Onana, who is said to be better than De Gea, has actually conceded 10 goals in the last 5 matches in the domestic league. It seems that Erik ten Hag is very worried about the performance of his players and if this continues to happen then they might fall in the group phase. Bayern Munich, who are favored as hosts, will certainly hit Manchester United hard in the match, especially since they have Harry Kane, who is a former EPL top scorer and it is an easy job for him.

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September 17, 2023, 09:55:14 AM
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Currently Manchester United can be said to be finished before the match against Bayern Munich later and it's no wonder their defense is so weak that they often concede goals. Moreover, Andre Onana, who is said to be better than De Gea, has actually conceded 10 goals in the last 5 matches in the domestic league. It seems that Erik ten Hag is very worried about the performance of his players and if this continues to happen then they might fall in the group phase. Bayern Munich, who are favored as hosts, will certainly hit Manchester United hard in the match, especially since they have Harry Kane, who is a former EPL top scorer and it is an easy job for him.
But I bet that the match will result in a very heavy defeat like 4-0 or above. It was the first match in group A and it was not a difficult group for Bayern. So Bayern will play more openly and if you look at United's performance when they were beaten by Brighton, I bet that Munich and Galatasaray will qualify from group A.

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September 17, 2023, 11:15:59 AM
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I also believe that Newcastle can't be a title contender. That is too much for them now. They don't have a qualified squad to make it there. I remember how Chelsea managed to win the Champions League title with Tuchel although their squad quality was worse than teams like Real Madrid, Manchester City.

However Newcastle's squad quality isn't as good as Chelsea's firstly. Secondly they don't have as much experience as Chelsea in this tournament. They aren't as big as them in short. They don't have a mentality that is as strong as Tuchel's Chelsea either now.

Considering all of this the biggest achievement they can get is to qualify for next round in my opinion.

Well that is what the odds are, right? It is not very likely that Newcastle has a chance to win this title, but it wouldn't be the first time that a big surprise happens. Now I also don't think that there is a chance that Newcastle will play the final, but frankly I didn't think that Inter Milan would be a finalist last season either.

The list of finalists from the past is interesting as the last one that was really a surprise was in 2003-04 when Porto played against Monaco. It wasn't just one team, it was both teams who were never expected to reach that final.

Of course nothing can be taken for granted. However I believe in this scenario because of especially their performance so far. They have started the Premier League really poorly. They won against Brentford the last time maybe but it was a pretty hard-fought 1-0 win. Therefore it is hard to believe in them even for achieving a good thing in the Premier League for now.

There is an example like Chelsea won this title in the 2020/21 season too while they weren't one of the favoured teams for the title. However they finished the Premier League in 4th place at the same time. I don't know if Newcastle can make that improvement.

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September 17, 2023, 11:40:45 AM
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Currently Manchester United can be said to be finished before the match against Bayern Munich later and it's no wonder their defense is so weak that they often concede goals. Moreover, Andre Onana, who is said to be better than De Gea, has actually conceded 10 goals in the last 5 matches in the domestic league. It seems that Erik ten Hag is very worried about the performance of his players and if this continues to happen then they might fall in the group phase. Bayern Munich, who are favored as hosts, will certainly hit Manchester United hard in the match, especially since they have Harry Kane, who is a former EPL top scorer and it is an easy job for him.
But I bet that the match will result in a very heavy defeat like 4-0 or above. It was the first match in group A and it was not a difficult group for Bayern. So Bayern will play more openly and if you look at United's performance when they were beaten by Brighton, I bet that Munich and Galatasaray will qualify from group A.
MU's performance was indeed unsatisfactory. but after all this is in the Champions League, all teams will fight with their best strategy to qualify for the next phase. so anything can happen.
we can see how Sevilla is performing poorly in La Liga, but they can also win the Europa League. and this may also apply to teams in the Champions League.
The MU vs Munich match will be interesting and of course, Munich will be the favorite. they might win but I don't think by many goals.

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September 17, 2023, 12:12:37 PM
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Of course nothing can be taken for granted. However I believe in this scenario because of especially their performance so far. They have started the Premier League really poorly. They won against Brentford the last time maybe but it was a pretty hard-fought 1-0 win. Therefore it is hard to believe in them even for achieving a good thing in the Premier League for now.

There is an example like Chelsea won this title in the 2020/21 season too while they weren't one of the favoured teams for the title. However they finished the Premier League in 4th place at the same time. I don't know if Newcastle can make that improvement.

Yes but you can't judge the group based on Newcastle alone. Look at what PSG is doing, look at how AC Milan did against Inter and look at how Dortmund is doing despite their most recent win against Freiburg, which was also a last minute win against a team that was left with 10 players after the red card.

I think if you take all these circumstances into account and the fact that all four teams are obviously not solid enough to play on their top level consistently, this group will have the least predictability in my opinion.

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