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January 15, 2024, 10:47:56 AM
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Real Madrid or Manchester City. Don't try to buy quotes from scraps. European football is over, there are only these two teams Smiley


I think the champions league is not just Real Madrid and Manchester City.
There is still Bayern Munich which is very strong. This season in the champion league in the group phase became an unbeaten team. although in the group it is also not easy because there is Manchester United too.
So a strong candidate for champion league champion this season besides Manchester City and Real Madrid, Bayern Munich is also a top tier candidate along with Real Madrid and Manchester City.
When in the Champions League, our discussion must also be comprehensive and look at all the clubs that have similar strengths. While I agree that Real Madrid vs Manchester City would be the ideal final, clubs like Bayern Munich, Inter Milan and others also have a chance of being in the final.
This isn't a one-club Ligue 1, it's very competitive and things can happen that you wouldn't expect. One match will be decisive, especially as we are in the knock out stages which means every match must be maximized and no unnecessary mistakes must be made which will cost them in the end.
Indeed they have 2 opportunities in 2 matches, but it becomes more risky when 1 match cannot be maximized properly.

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January 15, 2024, 10:51:51 AM
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It's too quick to predict which team will win the Champions League this season, in general all the surviving teams still have a chance to win the Champions League. Of the 16 teams that are still surviving, there are several teams that are on the list of top teams. In theory, these teams are considered to be successful in reaching the semifinals, but surprises could happen because in football anything can happen depending on the quality of the game.
Teams that want to win the UCL trophy this season must always use all their energy to always beat the opponents who stand in their way. Until the end of the competition, only one team will remain and that team will receive a prestigious trophy from all European competitions.

I agree with you. That's why I said that before the game reaches the semifinals, we still can't determine which team is the best to win the trophy. Currently we are still in the top 16 and all teams still have the potential to knock each other out. I really favor Madrid to win the Champions League trophy, especially after yesterday they were able to beat Barcelona and win the Supercoppa De Espana with a score of 4-1. Madrid is the best team in the world this season.

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January 15, 2024, 11:48:40 AM
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If Kevin De Bruyne can now get enough practice, it will also have a deep impact on Manchester City's game. It's impossible to replace someone like him, let alone when he is at his optimum and then gets an injury. He scored a very important goal against Newcastle now and this could give him some valuable momentum for the next few weeks. Haaland benefits a lot from a well playing De Bruyne.

Now Manchester City has one more difficult game against Tottenham in the FA Cup. The next six weeks will be exciting for them and I hope they can keep everyone on board and nobody gets ruled out due to injuries.
Injury and time away from game have no impact on KDB performance with his back in game entry is amazing and score goal which help his team to win the match is clearly showing how dedicated is he about winning for his team now they are going to face Tottenham in The FA game at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium after this Manchester City having three more games which will give them good practice for having match against Copenhagen which is also good at home and in last game they hold city for the draw now they will keep things at his best even they have not good chances for the qualification into last eight but still they will try to create problems for them as well which create frustration for them in this round, but win is still for the Manchester City.

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Apart from that, there has been no news about Arsenal's latest signings this January and I think they have to do it, especially for positions that are considered less productive. Of course what I mean here is a strong striker and maybe they should immediately start looking for a new one before January ends rather than having a bad season.

Indeed Arsenal have been quite silent in January transfer window. This wasn't what I expected from them especially after Arteta stated it like they would strengthen the squad with new transfers in winter.  Sad

But I also hope to see at least one move for a specific position. I believe that it could be centre-forward position. Because I don't think either Gabriel Jesus or Eddie Nketiah is good enough these days. Arsenal would make use of a star striker or a young striker who has been shining recently - like Serhou Guirassy.  Grin  I believe that Guirassy can be much more efficient than both of those two strikers when it comes to scoring goals.

This would be a great move for success in the Champions League as well.  Smiley

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January 15, 2024, 11:57:57 AM
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Arsenal may be far behind compared to the strength of Real Madrid this season. I won't even doubt that Real Madrid will be ready to win the title this season. For Arsenal, they are a team that is building their strength and maybe they need time to win the UCL trophy. Apart from that, I see that the season's competition for the title will be dominated by Bayern Munich, Inter Milan, Manchester City and Real Madrid.

Arsenal need some significant overhauls in their squad if they want to become champions. Arteta must have a striker who has the ambition to continue scoring goals because when the team has a productive striker they will be ready to turn things around if they fall behind first. Even so, Arsenal is still quite considered in the Champions League this season. They have to be able to give us a surprise because it would be quite interesting if they were able to make it to the final this season.

People who bring up such discussions are volleyball players, because if they play soccer or even watch, they wouldn't want to make such a crazy cliam. I Indeed find all of these things funny!
Arsenal struggled against Fulham, and they couldn't get a draw and they have the grounds to compare em still with Real Madrid. They should go see highlights of the game against Barcelona yesterday as they went ahead to win them first trophy of the season.

They don't need no overhauls, most of them players had the approval of Mikel Arteta before sliding into the squad. Elenny, and  Thomas Partey are both players that need leave though.
They need a new Central Midfielder and then a new Central Forward, the sale of either of Nketiah or Gabriel Jesus would be peng.

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January 15, 2024, 01:24:23 PM
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I also can't decide which one I actually predict will have the best chance of winning the title this season. Although I might hope that Inter Milan can perform as well as last season. But in my heart I honestly also feel that Inter Milan will have difficulties this time. Because Bayern and Real Madrid this season are different from their performance last season. Especially Real Madrid with its young players who always make everyone praise their team's performance this season.

And actually it is possible that those who will go further this season are not from the 4 clubs above. Because many surprises happen in every season. Even last season, Inter Milan was not included in the 4 favorite clubs in the Champions League because they even had difficulty qualifying from the group stage and the round of 16. But they kept going even though it was difficult. Last season, Inter Milan was in the same group as Bayern and Barcelona, ​​which made it difficult for Inter to qualify from the group stage. But this season I see that Inter Milan has had quite smooth steps.
So far, this season has been very much unpredictable for most leagues, the rate of increased performances from both small and less threatening teams of before have spontaneously grown. All the European leagues are currently in a state they've not been in for a while. And as time passes we'll be seeing more changes in football.

 At first, it was just the EPL that always seemed challenging and unpredictable, now both German, Turkish, Italian and Spanish Leagues are different from the usual tempo they were known for. Inter Milan are rising, so is Leverkusen who are consistently threatening and Girona who are rubbing shoulders with the likes of Madrid and Barcelona. Let's anticipate how the remaining weeks of the season would turn out for these teams. For sure, it'll be a tough ride.

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January 15, 2024, 01:38:03 PM
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If Kevin De Bruyne can now get enough practice, it will also have a deep impact on Manchester City's game. It's impossible to replace someone like him, let alone when he is at his optimum and then gets an injury. He scored a very important goal against Newcastle now and this could give him some valuable momentum for the next few weeks. Haaland benefits a lot from a well playing De Bruyne.

Now Manchester City has one more difficult game against Tottenham in the FA Cup. The next six weeks will be exciting for them and I hope they can keep everyone on board and nobody gets ruled out due to injuries.

Injury has to be the only reason as to why Manchester City would lose them form and if Kevin De Bruyne get knocked out of the squad again, there'll be issues because Manchester City would definitely be in a very deep shit they can't solve.
That's the qualities a good player brings into the squad, within the first few minutes into the game the rest was history made, just as Pep Guardiola has said his a damn legend.

The pass, vison to lay that pass for Bobb was awesome, last time I watch stuffs like that in the Premier League was Fabregas launching such for Diego Costa. Bobb also with the fantastic touch and finishing.

I still think that Manchester City isn't as strong as they played last season. No doubt that they can still world class soccer and they do, but last season they reached a peak that was so high that it felt as if they were invincible. When they played the first game against Real Madrid and tied the game 1-1 thanks to a goal of De Bruyne, they afterwards showed in the second leg that there was at least one level between them and Real Madrid. It was a 4-0 and I saw that game and to be honest, it could have ended 5-0 or 6-0 without a doubt. That was shocking to see Real Madrid get dominated like that. But I don't think it would be the same this year because Manchester City seems to be a degree weaker.

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January 15, 2024, 02:34:28 PM
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It is natural to make Real Madrid the favorite team to win the UCL title because this team has won the most titles but choosing Man City, Inter and Munich is no less impressive because the performance of the 3 teams is extraordinary in fighting for the title in their respective domestic leagues and In the UCL, these 3 teams are also very strong, especially Munich, which has got a very sharp striker, as well as Real Madrid and Man City, each of which has superior players. I myself have not yet decided which one of the 4 teams above is better. is the favorite because the 4 teams are still having very good performance to date so it is difficult to predict.
Amongst all the above mentioned four teams, Bayern Munich has the least of experiences and it's very paramount that they will most likely be the first amongst this top four to not get to the finals as Thay look very much like they will be stopped at the semi finals because they may not have the much needed experience to go beyond there.

Real Madrid and Manchester city still remains the favorite for the finals because Manchester city is definitely in the bid do defending their title this season but then real Madrid is very much will to get the title from Manchester city at almost every cost and they do have a very sounds team but I feel with the return of the injured players of Manchester city in the likes of Kevin de bruyne and probably haland who will hopefully join them before the end of the season, Manchester city may be a very big problem to real Madrid.

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January 15, 2024, 02:53:00 PM
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Real Madrid or Manchester City. Don't try to buy quotes from scraps. European football is over, there are only these two teams Smiley

It's quite pathetic how you forgot to mention bayern munich as one of the strong team this season. It has been doing a lot of efforts to strengthening its club like bought kane from totenham. City and real madrid are the best but bayern munich can still count on the miracle that can happen anytime.

Since Manchester City has De Bruyne back in the main squad, I am guessing that other clubs will be scared when they face Manchester City. I can imagine that when real madrid to face manchester city as its opponent when haaland wil be also be able to playing against real madrid.
This will be the most interesting match, I hope that i can see madrid to face manchester city again.

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January 15, 2024, 03:21:29 PM
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The bad part about what City going through right now is that KDB is back, and we all know how kevin plays, that dude has been awesome ever since his return, just a couple games and he is already doing things that saves them, dude is amazing and I agree that he is going to end up being even better. But that doesn't change the fact that we are talking about a missing player yet again.

They got Kevin De Bruyne back, but they are missing Haaland right now at the same time, those two were the best duo in all of football world last season, and they haven't played any games together this season so far I think, or if any, that must be before KDB got injured. So City is not even at 100% right now and will take a while, need to get Haaland back, and both those players in 100% shape.

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January 15, 2024, 03:30:43 PM
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If Kevin De Bruyne can now get enough practice, it will also have a deep impact on Manchester City's game. It's impossible to replace someone like him, let alone when he is at his optimum and then gets an injury. He scored a very important goal against Newcastle now and this could give him some valuable momentum for the next few weeks. Haaland benefits a lot from a well playing De Bruyne.

Now Manchester City has one more difficult game against Tottenham in the FA Cup. The next six weeks will be exciting for them and I hope they can keep everyone on board and nobody gets ruled out due to injuries.

Injury has to be the only reason as to why Manchester City would lose them form and if Kevin De Bruyne get knocked out of the squad again, there'll be issues because Manchester City would definitely be in a very deep shit they can't solve.
That's the qualities a good player brings into the squad, within the first few minutes into the game the rest was history made, just as Pep Guardiola has said his a damn legend.

The pass, vison to lay that pass for Bobb was awesome, last time I watch stuffs like that in the Premier League was Fabregas launching such for Diego Costa. Bobb also with the fantastic touch and finishing.

I still think that Manchester City isn't as strong as they played last season. No doubt that they can still world class soccer and they do, but last season they reached a peak that was so high that it felt as if they were invincible. When they played the first game against Real Madrid and tied the game 1-1 thanks to a goal of De Bruyne, they afterwards showed in the second leg that there was at least one level between them and Real Madrid. It was a 4-0 and I saw that game and to be honest, it could have ended 5-0 or 6-0 without a doubt. That was shocking to see Real Madrid get dominated like that. But I don't think it would be the same this year because Manchester City seems to be a degree weaker.
Although there is not much change in the team, there is a significant difference in performance from Manchester City this season compared to last season. Last season they had a very consistent performance from the start which made us feel that Manchester City will definitely dominate Europe this season and Manchester City did but this season's performance doesn't seem to be the case. They are missing a midfielder and their most important player is injured which is probably the reason why their performance does not look like last season. They must improve their performance to compete with the big teams in the Champions League. If Manchester City can improve their performance, Manchester City can be a thorn in the road for the best teams including Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.
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January 15, 2024, 03:44:34 PM
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The bad part about what City going through right now is that KDB is back, and we all know how kevin plays, that dude has been awesome ever since his return, just a couple games and he is already doing things that saves them, dude is amazing and I agree that he is going to end up being even better. But that doesn't change the fact that we are talking about a missing player yet again.

They got Kevin De Bruyne back, but they are missing Haaland right now at the same time, those two were the best duo in all of football world last season, and they haven't played any games together this season so far I think, or if any, that must be before KDB got injured. So City is not even at 100% right now and will take a while, need to get Haaland back, and both those players in 100% shape.

When Haaland returns to the team and can play alongside Kevin De Bruyne, it will be a scary collaboration again in Man City's attack line.
Unfortunately, Haaland reportedly suffered a more serious injury after previously trying to take part in group training. but reportedly the injury recurred and even got worse. He looks like he will enter a fairly long recovery period, even longer than the target until the end of this month.
Pep still has good players, but they have to work hard for the team so that their performance does not fall. Man City is not just Haaland, but his figure is always extraordinary for Man City's attack line.


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January 15, 2024, 03:50:37 PM
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Amongst all the above mentioned four teams, Bayern Munich has the least of experiences and it's very paramount that they will most likely be the first amongst this top four to not get to the finals as Thay look very much like they will be stopped at the semi finals because they may not have the much needed experience to go beyond there.

Real Madrid and Manchester city still remains the favorite for the finals because Manchester city is definitely in the bid do defending their title this season but then real Madrid is very much will to get the title from Manchester city at almost every cost and they do have a very sounds team but I feel with the return of the injured players of Manchester city in the likes of Kevin de bruyne and probably haland who will hopefully join them before the end of the season, Manchester city may be a very big problem to real Madrid.
When it comes to experience, in my opinion Bayern Munich is a team that has more experience in the Champions League than Manchester City. To date, Manchester City has only recorded 1 Champions League title in its history, while Bayern Munich has won 3 titles between the 2000-2001 season to the 2019-2020 season.

Inter has the same record as Manchester City by only winning 1 title, but Real Madrid is the king. Regarding experience and title record, Barcelona is a team with a better status than Bayern Munich, Inter and Manchester City. But the problem is, Barcelona can no longer rely on much because the depth of their squad is getting weaker. Manchester City, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid are the 3 favorites who are likely to qualify for the final thanks to the depth of their squad and their performance this season. But before that gets real, we need to see how they fare this season in the knockout stages.

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The bad part about what City going through right now is that KDB is back, and we all know how kevin plays, that dude has been awesome ever since his return, just a couple games and he is already doing things that saves them, dude is amazing and I agree that he is going to end up being even better. But that doesn't change the fact that we are talking about a missing player yet again.

They got Kevin De Bruyne back, but they are missing Haaland right now at the same time, those two were the best duo in all of football world last season, and they haven't played any games together this season so far I think, or if any, that must be before KDB got injured. So City is not even at 100% right now and will take a while, need to get Haaland back, and both those players in 100% shape.
When Haaland returns to the team and can play alongside Kevin De Bruyne, it will be a scary collaboration again in Man City's attack line.
Unfortunately, Haaland reportedly suffered a more serious injury after previously trying to take part in group training. but reportedly the injury recurred and even got worse. He looks like he will enter a fairly long recovery period, even longer than the target until the end of this month.
Pep still has good players, but they have to work hard for the team so that their performance does not fall. Man City is not just Haaland, but his figure is always extraordinary for Man City's attack line.

I was looking forward to seeing the Haaland-Kevin De Bruyne duo perform. Kevin De Bruyne returns to the squad after a long injury layoff. But now Haaland is facing injury. And we still don't know when Haaland will return to the squad. However, it is expected that he will be absent from most of the matches.

Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne are the most important players in the Manchester City squad. These two players were in great form last season. So it was quite easy for City to dominate the Champions League and Premier League. But their overall performance this season is a little weak. Without Haaland, it remains to be seen whether Manchester City will be able to consistently perform well in every match in the Champions League and Premier League.

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January 15, 2024, 04:12:52 PM
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The bad part about what City going through right now is that KDB is back, and we all know how kevin plays, that dude has been awesome ever since his return, just a couple games and he is already doing things that saves them, dude is amazing and I agree that he is going to end up being even better. But that doesn't change the fact that we are talking about a missing player yet again.

They got Kevin De Bruyne back, but they are missing Haaland right now at the same time, those two were the best duo in all of football world last season, and they haven't played any games together this season so far I think, or if any, that must be before KDB got injured. So City is not even at 100% right now and will take a while, need to get Haaland back, and both those players in 100% shape.

When City played their match in the Group G phase, they got maximum points even though several players had to be absent due to injury. one of them, Kevin De Brunye, had to be in the treatment room for quite a long time. nevertheless, Pep Guardiola's squad did not experience any significant problems when playing their matches against teams in the Group G phase. now, De Brunye has returned and recovered from his injury. even though Pep didn't play him as the main starter in the match against Newcastle, De Bruyne was able to maximize his ability and stability even though he only played a short 21 minutes. Gradually, Pep will return De Bruyne as the main player in his starting eleven. at least, City now has additional ammunition options that can be relied upon in every City match. especially, in the Champions League competition which seems to remain Pep Guardiola's target to defend the title they won last season.

In the round of 16, City will play the away match in the first leg at home to Copenhagen. in theory, City will not experience any significant problems in the next match. which means, City's probability of qualifying for the next round is quite high. Likewise with Haaland, this player from Norway is predicted to make a comeback at the end of January. If it is true according to the predicted schedule, Haaland can be played when City plays Copenhagen later. both in the first leg and in the second leg. so, this way Pep can play his two mainstay players like last season. the combination of Haaland and De Buyne will be a problem for the teams that will be their opponents later. Let's see how De Brunye plays his matches, especially in the Champions League. likewise with Haaland, who is scheduled to return at the end of this season. thus, Pep again has a squad he can rely on. but to be sure, let's see and wait to see how it develops.

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January 15, 2024, 04:26:50 PM
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The bad part about what City going through right now is that KDB is back, and we all know how kevin plays, that dude has been awesome ever since his return, just a couple games and he is already doing things that saves them, dude is amazing and I agree that he is going to end up being even better. But that doesn't change the fact that we are talking about a missing player yet again.

All Manchester City fans are happy that KDB is back and fully fit. Just as you said, he has already saves the team in two different matches, his presence is indeed incredible and will boost Manchester City’s hope in any competition because he is indeed one of the best midfielders and playmakers in the world right now.

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They got Kevin De Bruyne back, but they are missing Haaland right now at the same time, those two were the best duo in all of football world last season, and they haven't played any games together this season so far I think, or if any, that must be before KDB got injured. So City is not even at 100% right now and will take a while, need to get Haaland back, and both those players in 100% shape.
I am not convinced with Haaland’s performance this season, maybe it’s due to De Bruyne’s absence. Nevertheless with or without him, if KDB is present in the team I don’t have any doubt so missing Haaland in the team is not a problem to them because KDB will create chances for others to score.

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January 15, 2024, 04:32:39 PM
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I was looking forward to seeing the Haaland-Kevin De Bruyne duo perform. Kevin De Bruyne returns to the squad after a long injury layoff. But now Haaland is facing injury. And we still don't know when Haaland will return to the squad. However, it is expected that he will be absent from most of the matches.

Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne are the most important players in the Manchester City squad. These two players were in great form last season. So it was quite easy for City to dominate the Champions League and Premier League. But their overall performance this season is a little weak. Without Haaland, it remains to be seen whether Manchester City will be able to consistently perform well in every match in the Champions League and Premier League.
Yep. People are waiting for the duo Haaland-De Bruyne, this is one of the best duo attackers in the world. Man City will be very superior to play against any team if they can put these players in the lineup. Unfortunately, Man City can't put the duo attackers for a long time due to the injury problems. Well, it is good that Kevin De Bruyne already recovered from injury. But Haaland still has no exact time for the recovery, he will be absent for a long time.

In UCL, the duo Haaland-De Bruyne will be very important because Man City plays against the strongest teams from top leagues in the world. Last season, they have no problem to reach the final and win the trophy. However, this season they have a serious problem because Haaland-De Bruyne can't play a long time. This makes us to feel worried about Man City, it will be a big problem if they play against a strong team like Real Madrid and Bayern Munich without the duo Haaland-De Bruyne.


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January 15, 2024, 04:40:08 PM
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They lack this one striker as you guys mentioned and they are playing in the most competitive league in the world. I am sure that Arsenal has a very strong team, but in the Premier League having a very strong team is still no guarantee to win anything there.

I fear that in the Champions League this will become even more evident when they play against teams that have a pure striker. Like Bayern Munich who has Harry Kane or Manchester City has Haaland. Inter Milan has a pure striker. PSG has Mbappe.
Arsenal have always failed to be the best in the Premier League and the last time they were able to be the best was during Arsene Wenger's time. Even though Arsenal has a number of great players in it, because the English league is quite competitive, the quality of the players cannot fully have an impact and this was proven last season where Arsenal lost the opportunity to become champions in the last five matches so Manchester City was again the best.

The Champions League will be much more difficult, apart from having great players, experience and mentality are also quite influential. The opponents they will face in the Champions League will be much better and Arteta may need additional players if he wants to compete there.

Maybe they need some luck to find a pure striker in the next transfer window who is willing to play for Arsenal. They are not the destination that the top top strikers want. Someone like Mbappe would never go there.
There is no such thing as luck in football and I don't see any chance of Arsenal reaching the semi-final stage of the champions league. Mbappe's problems will become clearer when the transfer market closes because so far the rumors circulating about him are completely inaccurate and quite difficult to see the truth.

If they start struggling, they often keep struggling and it was what happened to them last season at the end and now it is happening so much earlier. But what's worse for them is how well Liverpool is playing and that Manchester City is now picking up steam after KDB now came back, Doku is about to be fully back and he will be in great shape again and then there is Haaland who will soon be back at full strength. By then, I doubt that Arsenal can compete with them for the last 18 games.

Manchester City is able to pull off a big fat winning series and if it's necessary that they win 100% of their games, they could do it. That's where I think Arsenal won't be able to do that.

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January 15, 2024, 05:11:14 PM
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If they start struggling, they often keep struggling and it was what happened to them last season at the end and now it is happening so much earlier. But what's worse for them is how well Liverpool is playing and that Manchester City is now picking up steam after KDB now came back, Doku is about to be fully back and he will be in great shape again and then there is Haaland who will soon be back at full strength. By then, I doubt that Arsenal can compete with them for the last 18 games.

Manchester City is able to pull off a big fat winning series and if it's necessary that they win 100% of their games, they could do it. That's where I think Arsenal won't be able to do that.
It's a legit concern about Arsenal's current form, especially considering their struggles from the previous season. This is about mentality to stay competing at highest level which, I think, Arsenal is lack of it. The competition in the Premier League is too fierce for Arsenal, with teams like Liverpool and Manchester City performing exceptionally well.

Liverpool's strong performance with strong mentality and the return of key players like Kevin De Bruyne and potential additions like Doku and Haaland at Manchester City certainly add to the challenges for Arsenal. The depth and quality in these squads are formidable, and it might seem like an uphill battle for Arsenal to compete consistently with them over the remaining games. Manchester City's ability to go on winning streaks is well-documented, and their capacity to maintain a high level of performance is a significant factor.

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January 15, 2024, 05:24:02 PM
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Real Madrid or Manchester City. Don't try to buy quotes from scraps. European football is over, there are only these two teams Smiley

It's quite pathetic how you forgot to mention bayern munich as one of the strong team this season. It has been doing a lot of efforts to strengthening its club like bought kane from totenham. City and real madrid are the best but bayern munich can still count on the miracle that can happen anytime.

Since Manchester City has De Bruyne back in the main squad, I am guessing that other clubs will be scared when they face Manchester City. I can imagine that when real madrid to face manchester city as its opponent when haaland wil be also be able to playing against real madrid.
This will be the most interesting match, I hope that i can see madrid to face manchester city again.

Three times in a row?  Grin Maybe that's enough? I would like Copenhagen to knock out City and we won’t see them in the Champions League anymore. But after yesterday's game where Real started to fool around even with the score 3-1, I would actually be interested to see how they could perform against City. In principle, if half-dead Newcastle could cause them problems, then Real Madrid would have a good chance of winning.

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