⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Strongkored]

Arsenal trying to be at the top and within two games becoming fourth is silly, that doesn't make sense, how could they suddenly become that bad. I mean this team was going for the title, and then suddenly the yare doing so much worse, just because they lost two games. And not like those games made sense neither, ok West Ham is not terrible, they are like fifth or sixth, but Fulham? They are not even top half, they are terrible compared to Arsenal, Arsenal should have won the game easily, it doesn't make sense at all.

I understand that in football you may lose sometimes, but not like this, not at this moment, and not two times in a row. Arteta has turned this team into a great team that is trying to win a title, but he has taken them from irrelevance to just disappointment, they used to know that they are not going to win the title, but now? Now they think there is a chance they may, up until a certain point in the season, and then they lose the hope.

These two consecutive defeats or the third in the last five matches is a bad record for Arteta, it looks like they are not playing badly but it is proven that their strikers are not very reliable and in the top four teams they have scored the least goals so that is a note for Arteta if they want to compete again even though it seems their position is increasingly difficult have to buy a striker.

With a very thin point difference between the teams competing for the title, one mistake will really make their chances slim, especially two consecutive defeats.
I think slowly their position will also be shifted by Manchester City before they can finally return to the top four because Aston Villa will probably also experience a decline in the next few matches because the conference league matches will start to change Aston Villa focus.

It would be quite a shame if Arsenal failed again this season, and for some reason the management might make changes because with Arteta Arsenal have made a lot of player purchases in the hope of not only becoming a better team but becoming a team that can win the English Premier League title and to this day it has not materialized so management feels the need to make changes.

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[SeriouslyGiveaway]

Of course if Mohammed Salah leaves and is replace by Kylian Mbappe it won't be a big problem for Liverpool but unfortunately there are many clubs who want Mbappe such as Real Madrid, Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal so at least Liverpool must reach a definite agreement before taking step to sell Salah because it is feared that the dream of recruiting Mbappe will not come true.

With Real's recent strong moves yielding no results, I think it's quite challenging for Liverpool to secure Mbappe. Even if Liverpool decides to sell Salah or not, this deal seems difficult. Mbappe recently stated that he hasn't made an official decision on his destination yet, but he hinted at reaching an agreement with PSG's president. With this agreement, both PSG and Mbappe won't suffer any harm if he leaves PSG.

Additionally, Mbappe mentioned that he will make a decision about his future soon, avoiding a repeat of the 2022 mistake. Despite his words, in my perception, he seems to be in a state similar to 2022, not knowing what he wants or where he wants to go with so many clubs pursuing him. This is evident from his direct contact with Real's president Perez earlier, making them strive to bring him in, but in recent days, he's suggesting that he might stay at PSG. Therefore, I think Liverpool should forget about Mbappe and focus on other feasible transfer deals.

[Josefjix]

However, this possibility is still just a rumor because in fact Liverpool has not said clearly that they will sell Mohammed Salah to Saudi Arabia because the terms of the sale must reach a joint decision, not just one-sided if Salah doesn't want to go there, if I think about it, it looks like Liverpool will still keep him at least until the season This ended because Salah role is still very important and Liverpool will not necessarily be able to replace Salah with another player if it is possible that Salah will leave transfer market this January, while Mbappe will not necessarily immediately accept the offer.

Liverpool can survive without these key players. After all Mohammed Salah is leaving for the AFCON but it doesn't mean he won't come back, he will be present in Anfield before any opponents will start tendering threats. Jurgen Klopp always know what to do to secure his territory, no invasion will be completed because Liverpool will continue to record streak winnings, they're leading team on the table, they will be ready to execute good positioning. Rumors holding on the Egypt international regarding Mohammed Salah moving to Saudi Pro League.

[Juggy777]

However, this possibility is still just a rumor because in fact Liverpool has not said clearly that they will sell Mohammed Salah to Saudi Arabia because the terms of the sale must reach a joint decision, not just one-sided if Salah doesn't want to go there, if I think about it, it looks like Liverpool will still keep him at least until the season This ended because Salah role is still very important and Liverpool will not necessarily be able to replace Salah with another player if it is possible that Salah will leave transfer market this January, while Mbappe will not necessarily immediately accept the offer.

Liverpool can survive without these key players. After all Mohammed Salah is leaving for the AFCON but it doesn't mean he won't come back, he will be present in Anfield before any opponents will start tendering threats. Jurgen Klopp always know what to do to secure his territory, no invasion will be completed because Liverpool will continue to record streak winnings, they're leading team on the table, they will be ready to execute good positioning. Rumors holding on the Egypt international regarding Mohammed Salah moving to Saudi Pro League.

@Josefjix normally I would say Salah won’t be sold but suddenly Mbappe is linked with them and there’s no way that they can fund such a move without selling off Salah. However I’m not sure if Klopp will want to lose Salah because Salah has consistently performed for him and there’s no guarantee that Mbappe will be an instant success in the Premier league because French league is relatively easy hence who knows if he’ll actually succeed or not.

[Obim34]

I was also surprised with this news honestly. Let's say Kovacic didn't have much playing time there then it would have made sense. However there was no such situation either. He has been a regular in Chelsea starting lineup for years. I would have said that it was maybe due to his performance. But it was a horrible season for Chelsea so everyone was inadequate in performance.

At least they shouldn't have sold him to a rival team in the same league. Manchester City have newly lost Gundogan and it didn't even take them a long time to fill his place. They have filled the place with a really solid midfielder like Kovacic. I don't know what Boehly is really planning to do with this.

The reason why Chelsea sell kovacic involve the following;

1: They sold him because he was not an experience football player like expected.
2: He played so many matches with Chelsea but haven't made any good impact to the club in the mid fielders area

Yes Kovacic has filled Gundogan space for Manchester city because man city are having a good season and is able to fit in.

Chelsea as a club don't known how to bring out the quality of a payer, if you play well this season they leave you, if you play rubbish they sell you, that is what they did to salah and KDB. I'm sure by now they will be full of regret, by this season  Kovacic could have been a better mid fielder for Chelsea
 

[shogun47]

However, this possibility is still just a rumor because in fact Liverpool has not said clearly that they will sell Mohammed Salah to Saudi Arabia because the terms of the sale must reach a joint decision, not just one-sided if Salah doesn't want to go there, if I think about it, it looks like Liverpool will still keep him at least until the season This ended because Salah role is still very important and Liverpool will not necessarily be able to replace Salah with another player if it is possible that Salah will leave transfer market this January, while Mbappe will not necessarily immediately accept the offer.

Liverpool can survive without these key players. After all Mohammed Salah is leaving for the AFCON but it doesn't mean he won't come back, he will be present in Anfield before any opponents will start tendering threats. Jurgen Klopp always know what to do to secure his territory, no invasion will be completed because Liverpool will continue to record streak winnings, they're leading team on the table, they will be ready to execute good positioning. Rumors holding on the Egypt international regarding Mohammed Salah moving to Saudi Pro League.

@Josefjix normally I would say Salah won’t be sold but suddenly Mbappe is linked with them and there’s no way that they can fund such a move without selling off Salah. However I’m not sure if Klopp will want to lose Salah because Salah has consistently performed for him and there’s no guarantee that Mbappe will be an instant success in the Premier league because French league is relatively easy hence who knows if he’ll actually succeed or not.

I don't think it matters what Klopp wants or not. Since Salah is in the sweetest spot for negotiations it will all depend on whether or not he wants to stay in Liverpool and continue his career on the highest level or whether he wants the cash. Because Liverpool would then have to let him go without a transfer fee and they will never do that. The amount of money that was offered is too high to be refused by Liverpool. They will need the money to build their future team and Klopp will be involved and responsible., He knows how important it is to have the money necessary to invest in great talent and Mbappe would obviously be the premium candidat.

[QueenVera]

These two consecutive defeats or the third in the last five matches is a bad record for Arteta, it looks like they are not playing badly but it is proven that their strikers are not very reliable and in the top four teams they have scored the least goals so that is a note for Arteta if they want to compete again even though it seems their position is increasingly difficult have to buy a striker.

With a very thin point difference between the teams competing for the title, one mistake will really make their chances slim, especially two consecutive defeats.
I think slowly their position will also be shifted by Manchester City before they can finally return to the top four because Aston Villa will probably also experience a decline in the next few matches because the conference league matches will start to change Aston Villa focus.

It would be quite a shame if Arsenal failed again this season, and for some reason the management might make changes because with Arteta Arsenal have made a lot of player purchases in the hope of not only becoming a better team but becoming a team that can win the English Premier League title and to this day it has not materialized so management feels the need to make changes.

Arsenal are doing poorly but should we say not generally because they progress the ball so well but having issues scoring and that can be stat when you check amongst all teams in the top 4. This should be a thing for worry for Mikel if he truly wants to hand to the fans any major trophy.Because without scoring they won’t be going any further rather they could even struggle for 4th place and that’s one thing the fans wouldn’t love for their dear Arsenal.

 Aston Villa is another team that’s been declining and I think Arsenal can use them as an assurance to secure top 4 spot. If Arsenal fail on getting a trophy this season then I think the bell will come for Arteta because he’s been giving huge money to effect signings which he’s done but yet no positive result, even with the quality signings he included to his team.

[emrecemsan]

There is no way Liverpool wouldn't have any issue while Salah is away in AFCON competition. Salah is still their everything now. His goals and assists play a crucial role in each one of those matches most of the time. It was the same in the Newcastle match as well. As a result his absence will be felt undoubtedly. Klopp will need to think about some strategy to drop this weakness to as low level as possible.

Especially Nunez, Diaz and Trent can be key players to fill this gap as much as possible in the attacking area. I'm including Trent in this because as you know he is quite an offensive back. He is a big help on many dangerous attacks. He was nearly scoring the goal of the season against Newcastle too by the way. 

I don't know if Jota can replace Salah you know. As you have said, Salah is their everything and I agree with you. TAA has been their other key player in terms of attack but I wonder how effective he will be without Salah. They are currently at the top spot of the Premier League and if they start to lose here right now then Aston Villa and Manchester City might catch up and it will be very difficult to catch up later on. Cause it is not every day that Manchester City will fumble. Carvalho has been called back but I don't think he will fill the gap for Salah.

Jota doesn't have a similar character to Salah in terms of playing style. Because of that I don't think he can be a great replacement for him. He is more like a replacement for Diaz or Nunez. Because Jota can play as a winger and centre-forward both you know. He is more like a finisher so maybe we would see Nunez on the wing and Jota at the center.

Or maybe we would see Klopp trying Gakpo in Salah's place I don't know. It is really hard to find a player like Salah in the squad to fill his place in a solid way. Klopp will just go experimental and choose the best strategy. Maybe Salah's tournament would end early for his national team and he would come back much earlier. 

[JeromeTash]

Liverpool can survive without these key players. After all Mohammed Salah is leaving for the AFCON but it doesn't mean he won't come back, he will be present in Anfield before any opponents will start tendering threats. Jurgen Klopp always know what to do to secure his territory, no invasion will be completed because Liverpool will continue to record streak winnings, they're leading team on the table, they will be ready to execute good positioning. Rumors holding on the Egypt international regarding Mohammed Salah moving to Saudi Pro League.

We shall see what happens this month, but Manchester City is already going to gain tabs on them, and you know what happens when Manchester City is as the top of the league, and it's the second half of the season.

To me, Salah will surely be missed by them, even if it's just for a month.

[Smartvirus]

Liverpool can survive without these key players. After all Mohammed Salah is leaving for the AFCON but it doesn't mean he won't come back, he will be present in Anfield before any opponents will start tendering threats. Jurgen Klopp always know what to do to secure his territory, no invasion will be completed because Liverpool will continue to record streak winnings, they're leading team on the table, they will be ready to execute good positioning. Rumors holding on the Egypt international regarding Mohammed Salah moving to Saudi Pro League.

We shall see what happens this month, but Manchester City is already going to gain tabs on them, and you know what happens when Manchester City is as the top of the league, and it's the second half of the season.

To me, Salah will surely be missed by them, even if it's just for a month.

It’s one reason why some coaches are not particularly arms open to the ideas of having more African or Asian players on there team, just a few and that’s all but, it’s no doubt Mo. Salah and Son would be very well missed in their respective teams. These guys are the top scorer in their individual teams and have been the pivot about which the game is centered. Their absence in 3-4 games could come at a league threatening position.

Liverpool is top of the table and that’s with 5 points if I’m to match them with Manchester City. Manchester City have got a game to play for catch ups. E. Haaland is back in training although, his fitness to play remains under probability and Pep knows this be the time to get them points he needs to grasp the league and he would be out for it.

[Ayers]

However, this possibility is still just a rumor because in fact Liverpool has not said clearly that they will sell Mohammed Salah to Saudi Arabia because the terms of the sale must reach a joint decision, not just one-sided if Salah doesn't want to go there, if I think about it, it looks like Liverpool will still keep him at least until the season This ended because Salah role is still very important and Liverpool will not necessarily be able to replace Salah with another player if it is possible that Salah will leave transfer market this January, while Mbappe will not necessarily immediately accept the offer.

Liverpool can survive without these key players. After all Mohammed Salah is leaving for the AFCON but it doesn't mean he won't come back, he will be present in Anfield before any opponents will start tendering threats. Jurgen Klopp always know what to do to secure his territory, no invasion will be completed because Liverpool will continue to record streak winnings, they're leading team on the table, they will be ready to execute good positioning. Rumors holding on the Egypt international regarding Mohammed Salah moving to Saudi Pro League.

@Josefjix normally I would say Salah won’t be sold but suddenly Mbappe is linked with them and there’s no way that they can fund such a move without selling off Salah. However I’m not sure if Klopp will want to lose Salah because Salah has consistently performed for him and there’s no guarantee that Mbappe will be an instant success in the Premier league because French league is relatively easy hence who knows if he’ll actually succeed or not.

I don't think for this season, if Salah joins another club, that Liverpool can survive. Their attacking backbone is Salah. He has been carrying that for a few years. If he goes to play AFCON for a few matches then Liverpool can probably recover but if he leaves permanently then that is going to damage them a lot. If they don’t bring any good substitute, they are going to suffer I think.

Talking about substitutes, I don't think Mbappe will join Liverpool. He does not seem interested. Real Madrid might get him next season considering they don’t have a number 9 right now. They said they won't be signing any new player this season but I think next season they will be signing Mbappe. So Mbappe being linked to Liverpool is just a rumor after all. Last year we heard rumors about Salah joining the Saudi club but it was a rumor after all. But this season rumors seem stronger so I don’t know man.

[Docnaster]

Of course if Mohammed Salah leaves and is replace by Kylian Mbappe it won't be a big problem for Liverpool but unfortunately there are many clubs who want Mbappe such as Real Madrid, Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal so at least Liverpool must reach a definite agreement before taking step to sell Salah because it is feared that the dream of recruiting Mbappe will not come true.

With Real's recent strong moves yielding no results, I think it's quite challenging for Liverpool to secure Mbappe. Even if Liverpool decides to sell Salah or not, this deal seems difficult. Mbappe recently stated that he hasn't made an official decision on his destination yet, but he hinted at reaching an agreement with PSG's president. With this agreement, both PSG and Mbappe won't suffer any harm if he leaves PSG.

Additionally, Mbappe mentioned that he will make a decision about his future soon, avoiding a repeat of the 2022 mistake. Despite his words, in my perception, he seems to be in a state similar to 2022, not knowing what he wants or where he wants to go with so many clubs pursuing him. This is evident from his direct contact with Real's president Perez earlier, making them strive to bring him in, but in recent days, he's suggesting that he might stay at PSG. Therefore, I think Liverpool should forget about Mbappe and focus on other feasible transfer deals.

The possibility of Mohammed Salah playing for Liverpool beyond the current season is very slim if you ask me and that's why a lot of reports are suggesting the possible players that have been lined up by Liverpool to replace the Egypt national team captain which Kylian Mbappe happens to be one of those names. Mbappe in recent years have been linked with a move away from Parc des Princes but all of them have been abortive as the France international is still donning the jerseys of Paris Saint Germaine at the moment.

But considering recent reports, it seems like Kylian Mbappe will finally leave this summer but reports have it that his potential destination is Real Madrid and not Liverpool, Real Madrid is reported to have had an agreement to sign Mbappe. That report isn't yet confirmed and that's why I think Liverpool still have a chance but personally, I think it'll be very difficult for The Reds to convince him and bring him to Anfield

[Distraction]

If Egypt manage to progress until the finale in the AFCON competition then Salah will miss quite important matches - Chelsea (H), Arsenal (A). These matches are in the Premier League and they can play a big role on the road going to the league championship. Liverpool need Salah so much especially in this kind of big matches.

Klopp will probably pray for Egypt to be out of the AFCON quickly.    But I remember the last AFCON finale which Egypt were also a part of. We will see if they can repeat this. I would really like to see Liverpool collecting as many points as possible in the meantime to run away from Manchester City in the standings.

[Pesona1]

If Egypt manage to progress until the finale in the AFCON competition then Salah will miss quite important matches - Chelsea (H), Arsenal (A). These matches are in the Premier League and they can play a big role on the road going to the league championship. Liverpool need Salah so much especially in this kind of big matches.

Klopp will probably pray for Egypt to be out of the AFCON quickly.    But I remember the last AFCON finale which Egypt were also a part of. We will see if they can repeat this. I would really like to see Liverpool collecting as many points as possible in the meantime to run away from Manchester City in the standings.

Not only Liverpool, many clubs may have their main players abandoned in January, players from Asia (AFC) and Africa (AFCON) will play matches with their national teams and clearly this will create inequality in clubs that do have Asian and African players, if we pay attention some of these players are actually the mainstay of the club at the moment and the club cannot forbid them from playing to his national team,  I think the competition in the standings will be very interesting because this could be an opportunity for clubs  which dont have players from Asia and Africa to be able to improve their position in the standings later.

[CLS63]

As far as I can see Manchester City look like the most advantageous team among the title competitors in this time period. While some important players are leaving for AFC and AFCON tournaments at other title competitors Manchester City can really use this situation for their advantage. De Bruyne is expected to join the team soon as well which is another good news for Manchester City.

Only Erling Haaland's situation is unclear now. For now some sources claim that his return will be by mid January.

[Godday]

Of course if Mohammed Salah leaves and is replace by Kylian Mbappe it won't be a big problem for Liverpool but unfortunately there are many clubs who want Mbappe such as Real Madrid, Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal so at least Liverpool must reach a definite agreement before taking step to sell Salah because it is feared that the dream of recruiting Mbappe will not come true.

The question is whether Liverpool can make a good offer that attracts Mbappe's interest. We know that currently Mbappe is one of the best strikers in the world. And we also know that Mbappe has liked Real Madrid since childhood. And we also know that Mbappe has a fantastic salary. Can Liverpool provide something worthy for Mbappe to want to join the Reds? Are Liverpool thinking about giving Mbappe a huge salary? We know Mbappe is a selfish player so can Klopp handle Mbappe with his selfish nature?

[Zanab247]

As far as I can see Manchester City look like the most advantageous team among the title competitors in this time period. While some important players are leaving for AFC and AFCON tournaments at other title competitors Manchester City can really use this situation for their advantage. De Bruyne is expected to join the team soon as well which is another good news for Manchester City.

Only Erling Haaland's situation is unclear now. For now some sources claim that his return will be by mid January.

If you look at the position Manchester city are on this period, you will know that even though other injuries players join them to Play their remaining games, it will be difficult for them to take that position from Arsenal and Liverpool. I know that De Bruyne is among the potential players in Manchester city but their points has dropped to some point that De Bruyne cannot help the team to recover from the losses because, many teams has beaten them to achieved points from them.

Infant, this season is an interesting season that has surprised many people to see Liverpool taken over the premier league table but Erling Haaland and De Bruyne injuries make many team take advantage of them to be among the top team in the league .

[minairia3]

Liverpool can survive without these key players. After all Mohammed Salah is leaving for the AFCON but it doesn't mean he won't come back, he will be present in Anfield before any opponents will start tendering threats. Jurgen Klopp always know what to do to secure his territory, no invasion will be completed because Liverpool will continue to record streak winnings, they're leading team on the table, they will be ready to execute good positioning. Rumors holding on the Egypt international regarding Mohammed Salah moving to Saudi Pro League.

We shall see what happens this month, but Manchester City is already going to gain tabs on them, and you know what happens when Manchester City is as the top of the league, and it's the second half of the season.

To me, Salah will surely be missed by them, even if it's just for a month.

They have their match against Arsenal Tomorrow for the FA Cup and I think against Arsenal it would cost them dearly. In the Liverpool vs Arsenal match, Salah did a very good job. Salah is the backbone of their attack, and him leaving for 1 match against a team as strong as Arsenal is going to hurt them.

They will have a match in the Premier League in Bournemouth as well. I don't think that will be a problem as Bournemouth is not that strong of a team. They still got Trent Alexander Arnold, Nunez, and others still for the attack so I believe they will be enough to pull through against Bournemouth. They cannot afford to drop any points as Manchester City are back in business.

[temple]

Liverpool can survive without these key players. After all Mohammed Salah is leaving for the AFCON but it doesn't mean he won't come back, he will be present in Anfield before any opponents will start tendering threats. Jurgen Klopp always know what to do to secure his territory, no invasion will be completed because Liverpool will continue to record streak winnings, they're leading team on the table, they will be ready to execute good positioning. Rumors holding on the Egypt international regarding Mohammed Salah moving to Saudi Pro League.

We shall see what happens this month, but Manchester City is already going to gain tabs on them, and you know what happens when Manchester City is as the top of the league, and it's the second half of the season.

To me, Salah will surely be missed by them, even if it's just for a month.

They have their match against Arsenal Tomorrow for the FA Cup and I think against Arsenal it would cost them dearly. In the Liverpool vs Arsenal match, Salah did a very good job. Salah is the backbone of their attack, and him leaving for 1 match against a team as strong as Arsenal is going to hurt them.

They will have a match in the Premier League in Bournemouth as well. I don't think that will be a problem as Bournemouth is not that strong of a team. They still got Trent Alexander Arnold, Nunez, and others still for the attack so I believe they will be enough to pull through against Bournemouth. They cannot afford to drop any points as Manchester City are back in business.

Regrettably, this game between Arsenal and Liverpool comes much too early since this is still the FA Cup and it is quite a prestigious competition. Seeing them play against each other in the third round isn't optimal, but both have to deal with the situation. It is hard to give one team an advantage over the other team. But the home advantage can't be ignored here. I would still go with a 50:50 chance for both teams and in a worst case scenario Liverpool has the way out with a draw and then get the repetition game at Anfield Road. Then I think Liverpool would indeed have an advantage. But it's also cool to look forward to this game now.

[arimamib]

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If you look at the position Manchester city are on this period, you will know that even though other injuries players join them to Play their remaining games, it will be difficult for them to take that position from Arsenal and Liverpool. I know that De Bruyne is among the potential players in Manchester city but their points has dropped to some point that De Bruyne cannot help the team to recover from the losses because, many teams has beaten them to achieved points from them.

Infant, this season is an interesting season that has surprised many people to see Liverpool taken over the premier league table but Erling Haaland and De Bruyne injuries make many team take advantage of them to be among the top team in the league .

I don't think It's difficult Manchester City to take the position from Arsenal. They are only 2 points behind Arsenal with one game in hand. Hypotically they should be above Arsenal. It's evident that injuries to crucial players can have a significant impact on a team's performance. But De Bruyne will now be back to contribute to Manchester City comeback.

The competitive nature of the Premier League makes it challenging for any team to recover lost ground easily. But I dont think that's case for Manchester City with the fact that they are still have the control for their own effort to compete. Liverpool losing some players due to injuries, AFCON and Asian Cup could also be advantage for Manchester City, because they have a better squad as of now.