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August 02, 2025, 04:52:48 PM
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I was even more surprised when Manchester United was ranked fifth in the league standings. Given their performance last season, it seems like someone more deserving of fifth place than them.

I think Newcastle, for example, deserve that position. I don't mean to underestimate them, as they could very well be better than last season, but we still need to see what happens. And by the way, the odds can change as the league progresses, but I'm still a little surprised by the current odds.  Grin

Technically Manchester United and Tottenham both were horrible last season. They were both below Newcastle - Aston Villa duo as well for example. But currently the odds are in the opposite direction.  Tongue

This is mostly because of the name of these teams. Otherwise this situation is happening for a few seasons actually. But it is still not enough for bookmakers to make radical changes in the odds. Let's see how this season goes...
Manchester United is a big club and the management is working on reforming the club. They are among the big names in EPL and you can't write them off due to their poor performance last season. Newcastle cannot keep to consistency in four consecutive seasons. They are about to sell Isak and if that is done, Newcastle will not finish on top five next season.
Manchester United was very much liked in this season because at that time they played with good performance and won the match. But they fail due to some weaknesses and not bringing good effort in their players. Newcastle is also a good team to some extent, that is why they are not succeeding. In this season, they should try to succeed by playing well. They have to prepare their players so that they can get into a good position and become a better team. Now this season will be very interesting because every team is trying to improve itself and in the end, what victory will be depends on its success and hard work.
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August 02, 2025, 05:20:06 PM
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Manchester United was very much liked in this season because at that time they played with good performance and won the match. But they fail due to some weaknesses and not bringing good effort in their players. Newcastle is also a good team to some extent, that is why they are not succeeding. In this season, they should try to succeed by playing well. They have to prepare their players so that they can get into a good position and become a better team. Now this season will be very interesting because every team is trying to improve itself and in the end, what victory will be depends on its success and hard work.
The way Manchester United performed last season, they need a better roster to keep up their standards, especially given how every team is preparing for the upcoming season's league. Manchester United will not go anywhere until they make some changes to their team, as every club is busy bringing in good players.

Manchester United has the ability to face tough teams as well as defeats, but inconsistency is their biggest issue, especially when their performances are poor. And, given their ability to perform well in the Europa League, if they can continue their form for the upcoming season, they will not face many obstacles in any league.

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August 02, 2025, 05:42:09 PM
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Manchester United was very much liked in this season because at that time they played with good performance and won the match. But they fail due to some weaknesses and not bringing good effort in their players. Newcastle is also a good team to some extent, that is why they are not succeeding. In this season, they should try to succeed by playing well. They have to prepare their players so that they can get into a good position and become a better team. Now this season will be very interesting because every team is trying to improve itself and in the end, what victory will be depends on its success and hard work.
The way Manchester United performed last season, they need a better roster to keep up their standards, especially given how every team is preparing for the upcoming season's league. Manchester United will not go anywhere until they make some changes to their team, as every club is busy bringing in good players.

Manchester United has the ability to face tough teams as well as defeats, but inconsistency is their biggest issue, especially when their performances are poor. And, given their ability to perform well in the Europa League, if they can continue their form for the upcoming season, they will not face many obstacles in any league.
I say they should replace some of their players who are completely ineffective for their team efforts. This will also make a difference in their performance and give them some new ways to score goals which can give them a new hope of success. The way other teams are buying and selling I think Manchester United does not want to do it that way otherwise they would have started making their team better as soon as the season ended. Manchester United should also spend some money which will allow them to see a new effort within themselves. But they should also get this win because where there is a defeat otherwise there should be two matches of win which will improve their weekly record. If they work hard in the first 2 weeks with the intention of improve themselves then I can be inspired by them.
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August 02, 2025, 05:51:50 PM
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Technically Manchester United and Tottenham both were horrible last season. They were both below Newcastle - Aston Villa duo as well for example. But currently the odds are in the opposite direction.  Tongue

This is mostly because of the name of these teams. Otherwise this situation is happening for a few seasons actually. But it is still not enough for bookmakers to make radical changes in the odds. Let's see how this season goes...

It is uncertain whether Manchester United and Tottenham will do well next season. Both these teams have performed terribly in the last season. The performance of Manchester United and Tottenham has been erratic for the last few seasons. But these two renowned teams of the Premier League could not even be in the top 15 of the table in the last season.

Tottenham have bought several players to strengthen their squad. They have spent about 130 million on Mohammad Kudus, Mathys tel and Danso. Even then, I doubt whether we will see stable performance from Tottenham.

On the other hand, Manchester United have spent 150 million on Mbeumo and Cunha. Amorim is trying to strengthen his attack. He may gradually try to stabilize the defense and midfield as well. However, it is unlikely that we will see improvement in Tottenham and United very soon.

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August 02, 2025, 05:54:43 PM
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Chelsea has made a spending of €200-300m already this summer. And there's still a month ahead of us so I wonder how much more they'll spend...

By the way they've signed Jorrel Hato lately. All I know is he is a homegrown defender for Ajax. Only 19 years old.  Smiley  He is mainly a left-back but can play as a centre-back also which is a huge plus. 9 goal contribution last season. Maybe a good investment?

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August 02, 2025, 06:00:24 PM
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Chelsea has made a spending of €200-300m already this summer. And there's still a month ahead of us so I wonder how much more they'll spend...

By the way they've signed Jorrel Hato lately. All I know is he is a homegrown defender for Ajax. Only 19 years old.  Smiley  He is mainly a left-back but can play as a centre-back also which is a huge plus. 9 goal contribution last season. Maybe a good investment?
Chelsea owner, Todd Boehly is looking forward to see his investment exploring and generating profits in less than no time. The Blues have been very competitive when it comes to winning titles and they even bagged the UEFA Conference League title and now the Club World cup, and they're all under Enzo Maresca. He has not spend upto two seasons at Stamford Bridge and we're already seeing him proofing himself worthy, this is the type of manager the club have been lacking since.

The Blues will dominate next season because they've put down every action to make it right for themselves, they're not giving up and ready for the big games. I'm happy with the new signings of Chelsea, they're not stopping and keep spending gigantic figures in the transfer window because they need results next season.

 
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August 02, 2025, 06:11:43 PM
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I don't know if I'd call Bournemouth a very, very weak club. Let's say Man UTD were lucky to get those number of goals simply because their opponents didn't take the game seriously. I saw how the opposition struggled to come back, even had a goal ruled out for offside before they got their consolation goal late into the end of the game.
 You are right that Man UTD didn't do much but then you'd have to give them credit to have been able to hold on to their win and continue being solid in their defense unlike the way we know them for. The question is, can Man UTD replicate this performance when it matters the most? And as for Bournemouth, we know that part of what is keeping them the way they are is that they are yet to make any new signings after the ones they sold off.
It's pretty season friendly, any thing can happen. Although I don't expect Bournemouth to be strong as they were last season since they sold some key players.

The only good thing I can see here is from the fact that this may help them to have a good mentality when the season kicks off because last season was something else for them but let's see overall soon when it kicks off this month.

 
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I watched the highlights of the Manchester United - Bournemouth match, United won 4-1 but their performance was not that great. They won because they were playing a very very weak side that made silly errors throughout the game. If United had played against a top club I doubt they would be able to beat them. So far, the only Manchester United players that have impressed me are Dorgu and Amad.
That's obvious Bournemouth's defence were the main problem. They conceded a lot of goals because of lack of discipline by their defense. That's the reason MU scored 4, but believe them to solve it as they're in the process in signing new defenders.
Like you said that the league game will be totally different with pre season game. That's why i'm not panicking even Bournemouth got massive lost against MU.

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Well, we'll see if the player actually left Newcastle United for Liverpool or if it's just a rumor. Alexander Isak's arrival would certainly be a strong addition to their attack, but I suspect this Liverpool rumor is simply part of the player's strategy to secure a higher salary at Newcastle. It's quite clear that after the rumors of Alexander Isak's move to Liverpool became quite intense, and Newcastle continued to try to retain him, the player immediately asked Newcastle for a pay rise.
Alexander Isak is a capable and fully skilled striker. As the thing is just in rumors that Alexander Isak is willing to move into Liverpool or he wanted to leave his current club. As someone mentioned in the discussion, maybe the rumor is spreading by the player itself so he can demand for the increase in salary so this may be true or not but i think this is not a positive action to fulfill the demands. While the Newcastle United is a possessive club which is really very concerned about his players. If they decide the Isak to let it go then before his leaving i think they managed to sign a new good player. I think this strategy should be followed by every club before the players leave there will be their alternative to keep the club in a strong and safe zone.











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The worst thing that can happen to Manchester United fans is start to have hype for some silly pre season games, please dont do that to yourself, dont start to have hopes.

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Technically Manchester United and Tottenham both were horrible last season. They were both below Newcastle - Aston Villa duo as well for example. But currently the odds are in the opposite direction.  Tongue

This is mostly because of the name of these teams. Otherwise this situation is happening for a few seasons actually. But it is still not enough for bookmakers to make radical changes in the odds. Let's see how this season goes...
I have no idea how they managed to reach the finals, it was definitely terrible for United to lose that one game, because if they won just a single game then they would be able to say their season wasn't for nothing, now we are seeing it and we can say that it was for nothing and they sucked.

Tottenham sucked too, but at least they made some good amount of money by both winning Europa league, and also now they are taking a ton of money from UCL as well, these are all important stuff. We need to consider how that would be a huge deal for them, because they do need money to improve. United on the other hand got no money, and they are having hard time making a transfer, they paid so much for two players and now they are done and not getting anyone else so far.

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Technically Manchester United and Tottenham both were horrible last season. They were both below Newcastle - Aston Villa duo as well for example. But currently the odds are in the opposite direction.  Tongue

This is mostly because of the name of these teams. Otherwise this situation is happening for a few seasons actually. But it is still not enough for bookmakers to make radical changes in the odds. Let's see how this season goes...
I have no idea how they managed to reach the finals, it was definitely terrible for United to lose that one game, because if they won just a single game then they would be able to say their season wasn't for nothing, now we are seeing it and we can say that it was for nothing and they sucked.

Tottenham sucked too, but at least they made some good amount of money by both winning Europa league, and also now they are taking a ton of money from UCL as well, these are all important stuff. We need to consider how that would be a huge deal for them, because they do need money to improve. United on the other hand got no money, and they are having hard time making a transfer, they paid so much for two players and now they are done and not getting anyone else so far.
I think that Tottenham was one of the most luckiest teams last season because truth be told they where really poor in their performance their win over United in the Europa League finals just covered everything so this coach has to make sure that Tottenham performance is good come this season because one thing I know about Tottenham is that they don't play with sacking of their managers that don't perform up to expectations

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August 02, 2025, 07:50:12 PM
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I have no idea how they managed to reach the finals, it was definitely terrible for United to lose that one game, because if they won just a single game then they would be able to say their season wasn't for nothing, now we are seeing it and we can say that it was for nothing and they sucked.

The both didn't manage as you said because anything any of them got was as a result of good deed, do you no that they rarely see losing from day one?, although I couldn't get it together when they both became the best of the league then because we no that when they left to Europa they barely boost for a reliable players let alone do like people who could win a trophy, but as surprising as it has always been they conquer because they saw uncompetitive teams but I think Manchester United still have the same form as then.

 
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August 02, 2025, 08:09:16 PM
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Yes it's their stubborn attitude because they kept him even after receiving a great offer but at present we can see that Man U is exploring the possibility of signing him. It is true that Newcastle did not agree to Liverpool Football Club's offer, so perhaps they will not be concerned about rejecting Man United's offer later but according to transfer rumors, it is clear that this player is adamant about moving to Liverpool. It's true that the new Premier League season is approaching but from what I understand Newcastle may not be ready to start the new expedition yet because because everyone may have observed that they have barely managed to sign one player this transfer summer.
I don't see Manchester United as an actual rival, a big money move they can't pull off on a single player now because of their financial state neither have they been able to offload players like Gernacho.

Also, Isak eye is already on Liverpool and why will he want to move to a team not even playing at the Champions League this season?

 
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I think that Tottenham was one of the most luckiest teams last season because truth be told they where really poor in their performance their win over United in the Europa League finals just covered everything so this coach has to make sure that Tottenham performance is good come this season because one thing I know about Tottenham is that they don't play with sacking of their managers that don't perform up to expectations
I never believed Tottenham would be able to get to Europa final last season, their performance were so poor in the premier league, they ended the season in 17th position, they were just lucky that they were able to avoid relegation last season, and they were lucky to get to the Europa League final. Actually they didn’t really face any strong team until they got to the final, and they played against Manchester United.

If I will be honest Tottenham played well in the final, I never believed they will be able to get a win against Manchester United, because I noticed that Manchester United had a better performance than them, but they surprised me by getting a win against Manchester United in the final, and they were able to win the Europa league.

With the signings which Tottenham have made, and how they have been playing in the pre season matches, I expect them to have a better performance by next season. They almost got relegated last season, I don’t expect them to end next season in that position.

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August 02, 2025, 08:41:59 PM
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Technically Manchester United and Tottenham both were horrible last season. They were both below Newcastle - Aston Villa duo as well for example. But currently the odds are in the opposite direction.  Tongue

This is mostly because of the name of these teams. Otherwise this situation is happening for a few seasons actually. But it is still not enough for bookmakers to make radical changes in the odds. Let's see how this season goes...
I have no idea how they managed to reach the finals, it was definitely terrible for United to lose that one game, because if they won just a single game then they would be able to say their season wasn't for nothing, now we are seeing it and we can say that it was for nothing and they sucked.

Tottenham sucked too, but at least they made some good amount of money by both winning Europa league, and also now they are taking a ton of money from UCL as well, these are all important stuff. We need to consider how that would be a huge deal for them, because they do need money to improve. United on the other hand got no money, and they are having hard time making a transfer, they paid so much for two players and now they are done and not getting anyone else so far.
I think that Tottenham was one of the most luckiest teams last season because truth be told they where really poor in their performance their win over United in the Europa League finals just covered everything so this coach has to make sure that Tottenham performance is good come this season because one thing I know about Tottenham is that they don't play with sacking of their managers that don't perform up to expectations

Exactly, winning the Europa league was just a one way ticket to champions league though the finals they played against Manchester united I knew somehow that they were going to win Manchester united because they always win Manchester united whether they are inform or not but the annoying part that last season was that they beat Manchester united about 3-4 times in a row. Any team that qualified for Champions league will always ensure to improve or do better than their previous season because champions league is a strong game and I believe Tottenham Hotspur will do well this season.











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August 02, 2025, 09:10:05 PM
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I never believed Tottenham would be able to get to Europa final last season, their performance were so poor in the premier league, they ended the season in 17th position, they were just lucky that they were able to avoid relegation last season, and they were lucky to get to the Europa League final. Actually they didn’t really face any strong team until they got to the final, and they played against Manchester United.

If I will be honest Tottenham played well in the final, I never believed they will be able to get a win against Manchester United, because I noticed that Manchester United had a better performance than them, but they surprised me by getting a win against Manchester United in the final, and they were able to win the Europa league.

With the signings which Tottenham have made, and how they have been playing in the pre season matches, I expect them to have a better performance by next season. They almost got relegated last season, I don’t expect them to end next season in that position.
You never believed it because you were only watching Tottenham games in the league alone and not the Europa League. They were more concentrated in the competition than the league and if you watched it, you will notice that they were serious while playing the Europa League. Most people knew they were going to beat Manchester United, despite them not losing in the competition prior to the finals. Tottenham has been the better side between both teams in their last four meetings before the finals.

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August 02, 2025, 09:11:40 PM
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I think that Tottenham was one of the most luckiest teams last season because truth be told they where really poor in their performance their win over United in the Europa League finals just covered everything so this coach has to make sure that Tottenham performance is good come this season because one thing I know about Tottenham is that they don't play with sacking of their managers that don't perform up to expectations
I never believed Tottenham would be able to get to Europa final last season, their performance were so poor in the premier league, they ended the season in 17th position, they were just lucky that they were able to avoid relegation last season, and they were lucky to get to the Europa League final. Actually they didn’t really face any strong team until they got to the final, and they played against Manchester United.

If I will be honest Tottenham played well in the final, I never believed they will be able to get a win against Manchester United, because I noticed that Manchester United had a better performance than them, but they surprised me by getting a win against Manchester United in the final, and they were able to win the Europa league.

With the signings which Tottenham have made, and how they have been playing in the pre season matches, I expect them to have a better performance by next season. They almost got relegated last season, I don’t expect them to end next season in that position.
Tottenham Hotspur covered up their shit season with that Europa League trophy just because Just like Christiano Ronaldo said, football is a game of numbers. Judging from their league performance and their journeys to the final, they wouldn't be winning at all. However this season is not going to be an easy one for them also, aside them signing players, with the possible exit of Son Heung min, the team would shake further. But what is paramount is that from all indications, they would finish better at least, let me prediction be the 8th position. Son Heung min is a focal player in the team and a playmaker who has held the team even in the days of Harry kane.

I wish Tottenham success and their fans, but let them not forget that the best advice is to drop from UCL to Europa where they will stand a better chance to go far than UCL. The season is fresh and every team stands equal chance, Epl starts on the 15th of this month, anyone can top the table, haha.

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Yes it's their stubborn attitude because they kept him even after receiving a great offer but at present we can see that Man U is exploring the possibility of signing him. It is true that Newcastle did not agree to Liverpool Football Club's offer, so perhaps they will not be concerned about rejecting Man United's offer later but according to transfer rumors, it is clear that this player is adamant about moving to Liverpool. It's true that the new Premier League season is approaching but from what I understand Newcastle may not be ready to start the new expedition yet because because everyone may have observed that they have barely managed to sign one player this transfer summer.
I don't see Manchester United as an actual rival, a big money move they can't pull off on a single player now because of their financial state neither have they been able to offload players like Gernacho.

Also, Isak eye is already on Liverpool and why will he want to move to a team not even playing at the Champions League this season?

You are right. Manchester United now survives only on the strength of recognition. Performance on the field, squad management is deteriorating. There was a time when the biggest stars in the world would line up to play for the Manchester United club. But that is no longer the case. Because now players do not rely only on recognition. Along with recognition, they also look for successful projects, coaches and continuous participation in European football. Which Manchester United is currently unable to provide. If we talk about players like Alexander Isak, then if he wants to improve from Newcastle, he will definitely survive from Liverpool or Man City. Because there is a lot of stability Champions League football and modern football tactics.

So in my opinion, Manchester United only has a name and nothing is in a good position.

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You are right. Manchester United now survives only on the strength of recognition. Performance on the field, squad management is deteriorating. There was a time when the biggest stars in the world would line up to play for the Manchester United club. But that is no longer the case. Because now players do not rely only on recognition. Along with recognition, they also look for successful projects, coaches and continuous participation in European football. Which Manchester United is currently unable to provide. If we talk about players like Alexander Isak, then if he wants to improve from Newcastle, he will definitely survive from Liverpool or Man City. Because there is a lot of stability Champions League football and modern football tactics.

So in my opinion, Manchester United only has a name and nothing is in a good position.

I won't deny that they've not been playing up to the standard of the team, at some point I stopped watching them cause the way they play was so disappointing I barely even bet on them cause they haven't been a serious team but I've noticed they've been doing well in the preseason maybe all Amorim just need was the Preseason to impact his strategy into the players and also sign more good players. Well let's see how their performance would be this coming season.

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