⚽ Premier League 2025/2026 Discussion Thread ⚽

[sana54210]

Man City is still not recovering and still not doing great. Pep must be going crazy again, I am sure they will eventually get back to being good but that doesn't mean that they are going to end where they want. Because when you start from last, then you have to keep trying to claim and may never move upfront.

That is why Man City needs to do better, while at UCL that is not an issue because as long as they are in top 24, the other part of the tournament is knock off so they can do fine, but at the league they really need to do better because we are talking about something that will do a lot better. It's not going to be that tough and we are going to end up with them failing to win the title yet again because of a bad start.

[Stormisover]

Here we go again. Another case of Man City being dominant, taking the lead, just to waste it all in the last minutes of the game. It's getting painful to watch. They deserved 3 points tonight, but are going back home with just one. I guess that's still better than Liverpool losing to Galatasaray yesterday.

Newcastle and Arsenal are saving the Premier League's good name with impressive wins against Union Saint-Gilloise (4-0) and Olympiacos (2-0) respectively, so overall a pretty good day for English clubs.
After 2 rounds, none of the Premier League clubs participating in the UCL is below the play-off zone of the UCL table, but of course it's way too soon to draw any meaningful conclusions.

It must be said that they were very easy matches and that they won practically very easily, the worst happened to the others, however it was a good performance to show that they are also there, unlike other clubs who behaved terribly and made a bad impression.

No that's not better than Liverpool losing, remember Liverpool and Manchester City are two different clubs and all have their own cross to carry, besides that if we should compare the Galatasaray team to the Monaco team I think Galatasaray has the upper hand, like they have more players than Monaco, and note Galatasaray has never lost to an English premier League teams at home so the difference is very much clear, Manchester City was expected to have won the game but base on bad performance they couldn't trust me if Liverpool were to play Monaco I know Liverpool would win the game, so I strongly believe there's something wrong with Manchester City and that need to be fixed.

[SUPERSAIAN]

Has anyone watched the Champions League game between Liverpool and Galatasaray (Liverpool lost 1-0). I missed it and am waiting for decent highlights.
What went wrong? Stats (other than goals) are showing Liverpool had some advantage, but I expected a different result as I considered Liverpool to be a few levels above Galatasaray. Was it just bad luck or something else?

Bad luck? No, not at all.    Liverpool simply played terrible which was quite a bit unexpected. Their opponent Galatasaray also defended them really well of course. Now it's a 2-match losing streak for Liverpool!

They won so many matches by small goal differences as you know. Now a bad form has started for them. As their next match is also a tough one away against Chelsea, I won't be surprised if they leave the pitch without a win again.

Even when Liverpool were on a winning streak this season, it was said they weren't playing well. Liverpool is arguably the team that spent the most money this season. Liverpool spent so much money and played poorly in their last two matches and lost is causing many people to rightfully question Liverpool. İs it not luck, Liverpool played poorly. Galatasaray was at home and on their day.

Liverpool has now gotten over that tension, and they may not be doing well in the league for a while.

[Derekfunds]

Its really strange to see this happening after so many years of seeing and suffering a super regular and solid Guardiola team, this Manchester City team is not longer that, they are a shadow of what a Guardiola team is, and worst of all after a lot of months of being in this uncertainity waters he still cant find a solution, so the irregularity still there and i dont see them becoming better at all.

It happens. Like Erik Ten Haag said 'Eras come to an end'. We saw it with Klopp and we're also seeing it with Guardiola.

That is absolutely true and correct, Klopp was leading Liverpool well and they have been very good and strong unlike the way they are now because I can tell you for free that Liverpool is not longer strong as they were before and this whole thing started immediately klopp left last season and Liverpool was using his grace them to shine and win matches but now it is a different case. Guardiola own is that he is trying to force it and if not for the fact that Pep Guardiola is so good by now Manchester city case would have been worst than that of Manchester united.

[Franctoshi]

Man City is still not recovering and still not doing great. Pep must be going crazy again, I am sure they will eventually get back to being good but that doesn't mean that they are going to end where they want. Because when you start from last, then you have to keep trying to claim and may never move upfront.

That is why Man City needs to do better, while at UCL that is not an issue because as long as they are in top 24, the other part of the tournament is knock off so they can do fine, but at the league they really need to do better because we are talking about something that will do a lot better. It's not going to be that tough and we are going to end up with them failing to win the title yet again because of a bad start.

I think it's about time we begin to agree that Pep Guardiola's reign is gradually coming to an end with Manchester City, and I doubt Manchester city will bounce back again to old City under Pep but I don't know if it will be the same thing if he leaves and goes to another club to coach, because I'm not seeing Manchester city competing for this season's trophy with Liverpool football club.

[KTChampions]

Here we go again. Another case of Man City being dominant, taking the lead, just to waste it all in the last minutes of the game. It's getting painful to watch. They deserved 3 points tonight, but are going back home with just one. I guess that's still better than Liverpool losing to Galatasaray yesterday.

Newcastle and Arsenal are saving the Premier League's good name with impressive wins against Union Saint-Gilloise (4-0) and Olympiacos (2-0) respectively, so overall a pretty good day for English clubs.
After 2 rounds, none of the Premier League clubs participating in the UCL is below the play-off zone of the UCL table, but of course it's way too soon to draw any meaningful conclusions.

It's unlikely that anyone will fall out of the top 24, but certainly not all of them will make it into the top 8, which means the likelihood that some English clubs will meet each other in the 1/16 is very high, after all, there are 5 of them.
I disagree about City, I enjoy watching them suffer  Now Pep finds himself in a situation where he is "like everyone else": he is not "several lengths" ahead of all his competitors in terms of the quality of his squad, and you can see what he is worth.

[Adbitco]

Here we go again. Another case of Man City being dominant, taking the lead, just to waste it all in the last minutes of the game. It's getting painful to watch. They deserved 3 points tonight, but are going back home with just one. I guess that's still better than Liverpool losing to Galatasaray yesterday.

Newcastle and Arsenal are saving the Premier League's good name with impressive wins against Union Saint-Gilloise (4-0) and Olympiacos (2-0) respectively, so overall a pretty good day for English clubs.
After 2 rounds, none of the Premier League clubs participating in the UCL is below the play-off zone of the UCL table, but of course it's way too soon to draw any meaningful conclusions.

In the first half, I already thought that after the break, Manchester City were going to finish off Monaco especially after the home side had just one shot total in the entire first half but with a goal to their name. Manchester City were better and was tipped to win the match, again Monaco proved to be stubborn. I could remember the last time they played against the young Monaco team, that time Mbappe was still a Monaco player and they knocked Manchester City out of the champions league that very year, I still remember it.

[dezoel]

Good to know that it was the well known philosopher Erik ten Hag who came up with this incredible quote because if he is known for anything, it is not for once having been a football coach.

It's very different whether a coach himself decides to stop being a coach or whether he gets sacked for bad performance. Ten Hag got sacked after two games, I assume it wasn't his best work.

Guardiola will still have some time get Manchester City up on their feet, but I think the advantage Guardiola's teams once had kind of melted away because other teams understood how to adjust to it or counter it.

It could also be because half of his team is nearly brand new, look at the team he had in October 2024, and look at it today in 2025, and you can see that half of the team could be considered brand new. Sure on this game most of them were old players he already had, but he has so many players that are new in this team as well.

So I am guessing that it's just taking time for all these new players to adjusting to how Pep wants them to play, it may not be an overnight deal, and maybe they will gradually get better during the season. The more they play with each other, they more they will get an understanding of the system and their teammates. Which will allow them to know who will be where before they even look up, play like a machine.

[Nightwatchmare]

Man City is still not recovering and still not doing great. Pep must be going crazy again, I am sure they will eventually get back to being good but that doesn't mean that they are going to end where they want. Because when you start from last, then you have to keep trying to claim and may never move upfront.

That is why Man City needs to do better, while at UCL that is not an issue because as long as they are in top 24, the other part of the tournament is knock off so they can do fine, but at the league they really need to do better because we are talking about something that will do a lot better. It's not going to be that tough and we are going to end up with them failing to win the title yet again because of a bad start.

I think it's about time we begin to agree that Pep Guardiola's reign is gradually coming to an end with Manchester City, and I doubt Manchester city will bounce back again to old City under Pep but I don't know if it will be the same thing if he leaves and goes to another club to coach, because I'm not seeing Manchester city competing for this season's trophy with Liverpool football club.

Despite Monaco having a penalty against Manchester City,  Monaco is a team Manchester City could have scored plenty of goals and defeated easily, but Manchester City ended up sharing the points with Monaco in their Champions League game. Even if you think that Pep Guardiola's reign is gradually coming to an end as a Manchester City manager, i won't blame Pep Guardiola for the 2-2 draw Manchester City played with Monaco because Manchester City were in full control of the match, and they had little time left for them to beat Monaco, but Manchester City gave Monaco a chance to deny them winning.

[Xcode7]

Manchester United supporters will never agree that they have bad players, they will always defend their players come rain and sunshine but as a manager I expect a certain power to influence and demand the players you need so if as a manager you get one or two transfer windows and still fail to strengthen your squad with players of your taste then you’re already failing in your role so the blames will be on you. Ten Hag failed in that area and Amorim is also following same part.

It is very difficult to see the cause of the slump of the Manchester United team in the last few seasons, if we say that Manchester United players are bad but in fact some players who were left out of their squad can actually play better in their new team so I think the root of the problem is in Manchester United's management, there are many things they need to change and internal management and also make a process to build the Manchester United team, if not so I think the Manchester United team will remain the same forever.

[Abbatty]

Manchester United supporters will never agree that they have bad players, they will always defend their players come rain and sunshine but as a manager I expect a certain power to influence and demand the players you need so if as a manager you get one or two transfer windows and still fail to strengthen your squad with players of your taste then you’re already failing in your role so the blames will be on you. Ten Hag failed in that area and Amorim is also following same part.

How can you say Manchester United players are bad, the poor result they keep having is due to the coach. This same team will be given to another coach and I bet you they will do better, they will challenge for a place in European competition even if it the conference league.

Let take a look T Nottingham forest, with same players Nuno was doing far better but with Ange coming in now they are yet to win a game in 6 matches. Manchester United have quality players but the coach needs to know how to manage them right and bring out the best In them.

It is very difficult to see the cause of the slump of the Manchester United team in the last few seasons, if we say that Manchester United players are bad but in fact some players who were left out of their squad can actually play better in their new team so I think the root of the problem is in Manchester United's management, there are many things they need to change and internal management and also make a process to build the Manchester United team, if not so I think the Manchester United team will remain the same forever.

I don’t understand why most people keep saying the management is the problem, everything thing and players Amorim have requested was given to him, they got him the players he wanted and the ones he said were not good enough for him were sold, I all boil down to Amorim. He needs to do better, he needs to get results. Well if he doesn’t improve by the end of the season I think maybe parting ways with him will be best for both parties.

[Platinumys]

Manchester United supporters will never agree that they have bad players, they will always defend their players come rain and sunshine but as a manager I expect a certain power to influence and demand the players you need so if as a manager you get one or two transfer windows and still fail to strengthen your squad with players of your taste then you’re already failing in your role so the blames will be on you. Ten Hag failed in that area and Amorim is also following same part.

It is very difficult to see the cause of the slump of the Manchester United team in the last few seasons, if we say that Manchester United players are bad but in fact some players who were left out of their squad can actually play better in their new team so I think the root of the problem is in Manchester United's management, there are many things they need to change and internal management and also make a process to build the Manchester United team, if not so I think the Manchester United team will remain the same forever.

Yes, there is no denying that Manchester United has poor players but you can't just blame the players, Manchester United's management also has enough problems in this regard. If the management was good, they would have definitely appointed good managers to the club and if there were good managers in the club, the performance of this club would have definitely been good. The club is only spending money on players and managers, but despite all this, we are not seeing much change in the team's performance. I think that changing one or two players will not improve Manchester United's performance much, but a skilled manager should be given the responsibility of this club and multiple changes should be made in this team, only then can this team return to good performance.

[tiCeR]

Good to know that it was the well known philosopher Erik ten Hag who came up with this incredible quote because if he is known for anything, it is not for once having been a football coach.

It's very different whether a coach himself decides to stop being a coach or whether he gets sacked for bad performance. Ten Hag got sacked after two games, I assume it wasn't his best work.

Guardiola will still have some time get Manchester City up on their feet, but I think the advantage Guardiola's teams once had kind of melted away because other teams understood how to adjust to it or counter it.

It could also be because half of his team is nearly brand new, look at the team he had in October 2024, and look at it today in 2025, and you can see that half of the team could be considered brand new. Sure on this game most of them were old players he already had, but he has so many players that are new in this team as well.

So I am guessing that it's just taking time for all these new players to adjusting to how Pep wants them to play, it may not be an overnight deal, and maybe they will gradually get better during the season. The more they play with each other, they more they will get an understanding of the system and their teammates. Which will allow them to know who will be where before they even look up, play like a machine.

But that shouldn't make excuses for world class coaches like Guardiola too easy. First of all he is not coaching a club that has limited resources. He can get the players he want for the position he thinks need to be filled or improved. It's upon him to play the puzzle right. He can't just get a bunch of players and then let everyone know that putting them together is a hard task to get done. The resources are there, the experience on his part is there, and the salary is also there because he is one of the best, if not the best paid coach in the PL.

All of this doesn't change the fact that Manchester City has had a bad season already last year. You could rather say that despite all those new players nothing really changed. That is not good for him and I am saying this as someone who likes how Guardiola lets his teams play football. 

[Futurexxx]

Yes, there is no denying that Manchester United has poor players but you can't just blame the players, Manchester United's management also has enough problems in this regard. If the management was good, they would have definitely appointed good managers to the club and if there were good managers in the club, the performance of this club would have definitely been good. The club is only spending money on players and managers, but despite all this, we are not seeing much change in the team's performance. I think that changing one or two players will not improve Manchester United's performance much, but a skilled manager should be given the responsibility of this club and multiple changes should be made in this team, only then can this team return to good performance.

Though, the manager have a huge role to play in improving the team, but in the case of Manchester united, I don't think that the sole cause of their problem is the manager, Ruben Amorin is not a bad coach, he was doing exceptionally well before he was brought to Manchester united, and even his predecessors weren't doing well when handling Manchester united, so I don't think that they are the major cause of Manchester united problem.
Jose Mourinho, Luiz van gaal and ole gunnar solskjaer are top quality coaches, but they all failed in Manchester united, that's alone is enough reason for everyone to understand that the manager is not the problem of Manchester united but the hierarchy.

[SatoPrincess]

I can't really tell what is wrong with Liverpool right now. Liverpool were the favorite to win against Galatasaray; even the bookmakers favored Liverpool, but I don't know where Liverpool got it all wrong, and they failed to defeat Galatasaray yesterday. I didn't watch Galatasaray vs Liverpool match; I was busy watching Pafos vs Bayern Munich, so I don't know if Galatasaray played well or not.

That game was 50:50. Galatasaray have been on top form this season I hear they have not lost any game so far this season son it was supposed to go either way and unfortunately it didn’t go in favor of Liverpool. Overall performance rating Galatasaray played really well, at least they got a goal and defended well enough to stop Liverpool from scoring.

[harapan]

Its really strange to see this happening after so many years of seeing and suffering a super regular and solid Guardiola team, this Manchester City team is not longer that, they are a shadow of what a Guardiola team is, and worst of all after a lot of months of being in this uncertainity waters he still cant find a solution, so the irregularity still there and i dont see them becoming better at all.

The arrival of Kolo Toure and should have brought in some improvements but they have not. There are no visible improvements from the Manchester City we saw last season, they are not as consistent as they used to be, they win a game and lose the next or draw, this is not the Pep Guardiola we saw. If Manchester city were to be a club like Man Utd and Chelsea,  the backlash from the media would be heavy but since it's Pep and City, everybody must be scared to speak up.

[KTChampions]

That game was 50:50. Galatasaray have been on top form this season I hear they have not lost any game so far this season son it was supposed to go either way and unfortunately it didn’t go in favor of Liverpool. Overall performance rating Galatasaray played really well, at least they got a goal and defended well enough to stop Liverpool from scoring.

I agree that it was a 50/50 game, the funny thing is that Liverpool's victory was priced at 1.60 by the bookmakers and that seemed to me to be very poor compensation for the risk. So even if a bet had been placed on Double Chance (which was probably quoted at 1.30), the bet would still have lost. To be honest, even with 15 points out of 15 at the start of the Premier League, Liverpool don't look like a reliable team, they have been conceding a lot of goals since the very beginning of the season.

[Pandu Geddon]

The arrival of Kolo Toure and should have brought in some improvements but they have not. There are no visible improvements from the Manchester City we saw last season, they are not as consistent as they used to be, they win a game and lose the next or draw, this is not the Pep Guardiola we saw. If Manchester city were to be a club like Man Utd and Chelsea,  the backlash from the media would be heavy but since it's Pep and City, everybody must be scared to speak up.

I think that even if their performance declines, as long as Pep is still coaching, I don't think Man City will experience a drop like United did. There is a possibility that there will be a coaching change for Man City if Pep cannot restore their dominance in the Premier League this season. And everything will again depend on the new coach appointed by the club management. Man City could grow into a strong club again, or their performance might continue to decline and remain unstable.

[babo]

It is very difficult to see the cause of the slump of the Manchester United team in the last few seasons, if we say that Manchester United players are bad but in fact some players who were left out of their squad can actually play better in their new team so I think the root of the problem is in Manchester United's management, there are many things they need to change and internal management and also make a process to build the Manchester United team, if not so I think the Manchester United team will remain the same forever.

Man United vs Sunderland
1) 1.49
X) 4.4
2) 6.0

the odds seem interesting I must say even if Manchester United are not that great of a team lately, I mean in the last few years
I don't know if I would bet on Manchester United to win at the moment, I'm trying to include in my bets some matches that I think are easy from La Liga, but in fact even here in the Premier League there are some good opportunities

[Shineup]

Manchester United is in big mess as ratcliffe have decided to let Ruben Amorin be the head coach till the end of the season and that's not really good for the team, because it's quite clear that Ruben Amorin have nothing to offer to the team he's got no good tactics apart from his 343 formation that is not working, one that can not win straight two games in a row, what did he think will become of the Manchester United team, like this people don't really care about the fans and the kind of politics that's going down in that club is only best known to the owners and it's really affecting the fans.