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November 07, 2023, 05:44:05 AM
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Although Bangladesh are 7th in the points table, it is not yet confirmed whether they will qualify for the 2025 Champions trophy. England at 10th position are having two remaining matches - against Netherlands and Pakistan. If they win both these matches, then they can overtake both Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. Also, for both Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, next matches are against tough opposition (Australia and New Zealand respectively). Netherlands may not qualify for the Champions trophy, and I am interested to know who will be the other unfortunate team to get that distinction.
With the current situation most chances we will have Bangladesh and Netherlands at the bottom and Sri Lanka and England will fight for the 7th and 8th spots while England having better chances for the staying at the 7th but still nothing is clear after watching Pakistan performance against New Zealand now I have feeling they can win against England as well which will keep things tight as last four teams will stay with 4 points each and this will make NRR important for them.

6 teams are already settled with India and South Africa already in top four and remaining will fight hard for their spots and here now for me Afghanistan and Australia are favorite instead of the New Zealand which is now having 4 matches losing streak and Pakistan is also having chance, but this depends on other results and NRR as well which is currently not into their favor.

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November 07, 2023, 06:30:25 AM
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It was a match between two of the weakest teams in this tournament and in the end one of them won after a lot of drama.
Indeed, yesterday's match ended with some dramatic incidents, although Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan made such dramatic incidents only for his team's interest. If Bangladesh did not get the time out of Angela Mathews, then Bangladesh would have been deprived of the success of winning tomorrow's match. Although Angela Mathews expressed her displeasure with Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan in the press conference, Shakib Al Hasan had no choice but to play such a role for Bangladesh's victory.

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November 07, 2023, 06:55:01 AM
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It was a match between two of the weakest teams in this tournament and in the end one of them won after a lot of drama.
Indeed, yesterday's match ended with some dramatic incidents, although Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan made such dramatic incidents only for his team's interest. If Bangladesh did not get the time out of Angela Mathews, then Bangladesh would have been deprived of the success of winning tomorrow's match. Although Angela Mathews expressed her displeasure with Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan in the press conference, Shakib Al Hasan had no choice but to play such a role for Bangladesh's victory.
This match record highest chase for Bangladesh against Sri Lanka as they won the match by 3 wickets. Bangladesh tried to up their NRR keeping the qualification of Champions Trophy  2025 in mind. Shakib ul Hasan took two wickets and scored 82 runs as he was named man of the match Shanto supported Shakib with 90. I think game will be remembered for a long time for the 1st Ever Timed Out in International Cricket as Angela Mathews got Timed out by Shakib ul Hasan. Bangladesh are now at No. 7 and Sri Lanka are now at 8 in point table.

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November 07, 2023, 07:02:07 AM
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With the current situation most chances we will have Bangladesh and Netherlands at the bottom and Sri Lanka and England will fight for the 7th and 8th spots while England having better chances for the staying at the 7th but still nothing is clear after watching Pakistan performance against New Zealand now I have feeling they can win against England as well which will keep things tight as last four teams will stay with 4 points each and this will make NRR important for them.
Bangladesh is currently in 7th position because of a better net run rate. If they manage to win against Australia, which is highly unlikely, they will qualify for the Champions Trophy. England still has 2 matches; they will probably win against the Netherlands and against Pakistan, but I am not sure about both teams.
In this World Cup, the top 6 teams are playing for the semifinals and the bottom four are playing for the Champions Trophy qualification. LOL Cheesy.

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6 teams are already settled with India and South Africa already in top four and remaining will fight hard for their spots and here now for me Afghanistan and Australia are favorite instead of the New Zealand which is now having 4 matches losing streak and Pakistan is also having chance, but this depends on other results and NRR as well which is currently not into their favor.

Afghanistan's chances to qualify for the semifinals are very limited as they have their remaining matches against South Africa and Australia. The 4th semi-finalist will be New Zealand or Pakistan.

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November 07, 2023, 07:33:52 AM
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Afghanistan's chances to qualify for the semifinals are very limited as they have their remaining matches against South Africa and Australia. The 4th semi-finalist will be New Zealand or Pakistan.

Even if they win one of the two remaining matches, there is a chance of qualifying to the semi-finals. A win will leave them with 10 points. New Zealand and Pakistan are having 8 points each, but with better run rate. Now the issue is that both NZ and Pakistan will be facing weak opponents in their final group phase round. So if all these three teams win one more match, then either NZ or Pakistan will qualify. In order for Afghanistan to qualify, both NZ and Pakistan should lose their last group phase match (against Sri Lanka and England respectively).

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November 07, 2023, 08:32:16 AM
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It was a match between two of the weakest teams in this tournament and in the end one of them won after a lot of drama.
Indeed, yesterday's match ended with some dramatic incidents, although Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan made such dramatic incidents only for his team's interest. If Bangladesh did not get the time out of Angela Mathews, then Bangladesh would have been deprived of the success of winning tomorrow's match. Although Angela Mathews expressed her displeasure with Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan in the press conference, Shakib Al Hasan had no choice but to play such a role for Bangladesh's victory.
This match record highest chase for Bangladesh against Sri Lanka as they won the match by 3 wickets. Bangladesh tried to up their NRR keeping the qualification of Champions Trophy  2025 in mind. Shakib ul Hasan took two wickets and scored 82 runs as he was named man of the match Shanto supported Shakib with 90. I think game will be remembered for a long time for the 1st Ever Timed Out in International Cricket as Angela Mathews got Timed out by Shakib ul Hasan. Bangladesh are now at No. 7 and Sri Lanka are now at 8 in point table.
This victory of Bangladesh will only be a consolation for them. They have lost every previous match but won the last match against Sri Lanka. Shakib Al Hasan has played very well in the last matches, especially because of this, the Bangladesh team has become so weak.  Shakib Al Hasan's good performance in yesterday's match helped Bangladesh to win the match. Bangladesh has earned a lot of reputation in the game of cricket but in this world cup they have played in such a way that they have ruined their reputation



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November 07, 2023, 08:33:58 AM
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After a while Australia vs Afghanistan is going to face at Wankhede Stadium in Mumbai. Afghanistan won the toss and decided to bat. The league is now nearing the end of the season and are desperate to secure their place in the semi-finals. Both teams played equal matches, Australia's points are 10 and Afghanistan's points are eight. A win for Australia will ensure the semi-finals and Afghanistan, meanwhile, have a golden chance to advance to the semi-finals if they beat Australia. 350+ has been scored in the first innings in all the matches played at Mumbai ground in this tournament. Steven Smith can not be in today's match due to injury. Will Australia win today's match to confirm the semi-finals or will it take a dramatic turn!

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Afghanistan's chances to qualify for the semifinals are very limited as they have their remaining matches against South Africa and Australia. The 4th semi-finalist will be New Zealand or Pakistan.

Even if they win one of the two remaining matches, there is a chance of qualifying to the semi-finals. A win will leave them with 10 points. New Zealand and Pakistan are having 8 points each, but with better run rate. Now the issue is that both NZ and Pakistan will be facing weak opponents in their final group phase round. So if all these three teams win one more match, then either NZ or Pakistan will qualify. In order for Afghanistan to qualify, both NZ and Pakistan should lose their last group phase match (against Sri Lanka and England respectively).

It is tough to predict the 4th semi-finalist at the moment. Today's match and the match between New Zealand and Sri Lanka will decide the semi-finalist. Among these teams, New Zealand has the easiest way to qualify. It is a good toss to win for Afghanistan in this match, and if they post a good total on the board things might get tough for the Australians (as well as for Pakistan and New Zealand). The pitch is expected to slow down with time, so a target of 320+ will be difficult to chase. Afghanistan is going with 4 spinners. Let's see how this decision will impact their semi-final qualification dreams.

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November 07, 2023, 09:36:43 AM
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After a while Australia vs Afghanistan is going to face at Wankhede Stadium in Mumbai. Afghanistan won the toss and decided to bat. The league is now nearing the end of the season and are desperate to secure their place in the semi-finals. Both teams played equal matches, Australia's points are 10 and Afghanistan's points are eight. A win for Australia will ensure the semi-finals and Afghanistan, meanwhile, have a golden chance to advance to the semi-finals if they beat Australia. 350+ has been scored in the first innings in all the matches played at Mumbai ground in this tournament. Steven Smith can not be in today's match due to injury. Will Australia win today's match to confirm the semi-finals or will it take a dramatic turn!
It is the 38th match of ICC World Cup. And this match is between Afghanistan and Australia.Afghanistan won the first toss and elected to bat first. Afghanistan batsmen scored 38 run in eight over and did not concede any wicket. And on the very next ball he got the first success by bowling out the first batsman of Afghanistan. Afghanistan batsmen scored 41 run in nine over and conceded only one wicket. Afghanistan batsman  dropped two balls in a row and hit a superb four on the next ball.Afghanistan batsmen scored 46 run in 10 over and should get one wicket.

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November 07, 2023, 10:01:10 AM
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It was a match between two of the weakest teams in this tournament and in the end one of them won after a lot of drama.
Indeed, yesterday's match ended with some dramatic incidents, although Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan made such dramatic incidents only for his team's interest. If Bangladesh did not get the time out of Angela Mathews, then Bangladesh would have been deprived of the success of winning tomorrow's match. Although Angela Mathews expressed her displeasure with Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan in the press conference, Shakib Al Hasan had no choice but to play such a role for Bangladesh's victory.
Maybe the whole world is criticizing Shakib Al Hasan with time out tomorrow. But mainly those who understand cricket and cricket celebrities shower Shakib with praise. The reason for that is because there is a rule of playing cricket. If there is a time-out three minutes late, why will Shakib Al Hasan not take it? He must have taken interest in the interest of the team and he has shown a lot of sharp intelligence. But Angela Mathews did something wrong here as her helmet was having problem and if she had asked the umpire or Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan to change the helmet then there was no possibility of time out. But he didn't say anything to the umpire plus the captain of Bangladesh team didn't say anything. Saying no, he returned three minutes late as there are rules and applied and got the wicket. We definitely think that Shakibal Hasan has taken a very good decision for the sake of the team.

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It was a match between two of the weakest teams in this tournament and in the end one of them won after a lot of drama.
Indeed, yesterday's match ended with some dramatic incidents, although Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan made such dramatic incidents only for his team's interest. If Bangladesh did not get the time out of Angela Mathews, then Bangladesh would have been deprived of the success of winning tomorrow's match. Although Angela Mathews expressed her displeasure with Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan in the press conference, Shakib Al Hasan had no choice but to play such a role for Bangladesh's victory.
Maybe the whole world is criticizing Shakib Al Hasan with time out tomorrow. But mainly those who understand cricket and cricket celebrities shower Shakib with praise. The reason for that is because there is a rule of playing cricket. If there is a time-out three minutes late, why will Shakib Al Hasan not take it? He must have taken interest in the interest of the team and he has shown a lot of sharp intelligence. But Angela Mathews did something wrong here as her helmet was having problem and if she had asked the umpire or Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan to change the helmet then there was no possibility of time out. But he didn't say anything to the umpire plus the captain of Bangladesh team didn't say anything. Saying no, he returned three minutes late as there are rules and applied and got the wicket. We definitely think that Shakibal Hasan has taken a very good decision for the sake of the team.

I would say it was a smart move by Shakib. He made the right decision at the right time. The match was important for Bangladesh. So if it's out of the rules then why not shakib take it? Mathews broke the rules. There was a problem with his helmet. It is also okay not to tackle a pace bowler without a helmet. But Mathews should have taken permission from the umpire and then changed the helmet. He changed the helmet as per his wish. Wasted time. After that, the umpire gave out after Shakib Al Hasan applied for out. I don't see any fault here with Shakib or the Bangladesh team. Mathews is now a professional player. But he behaved unprofessionally.

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November 07, 2023, 10:26:32 AM
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Afghanistan doing surprisingly good right now against Aussies (124-2, 26 overs), they look confident in their batting, make most of their runs from singles, and managing RR about 5, should comfortably make 270—300, if they continue as they are playing which will be good target to defend against strong Aussie batting line-up.

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November 07, 2023, 10:37:17 AM
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Afghanistan doing surprisingly good right now against Aussies (124-2, 26 overs), they look confident in their batting, make most of their runs from singles, and managing RR about 5, should comfortably make 270—300, if they continue as they are playing which will be good target to defend against strong Aussie batting line-up.

I don't like Afghanistan's batting. If  Afghanistan want to win against Australia then it is impossible  to win with such  batting. Afghanistan lost 2 wickets in 29 overs  and scored only 136 runs. Afghanistan  scored 4.68 runs per over. Since they lost only two  wickets, Afghanistan might  be able to give a target of 260-280. However  Afghanistan's bowlers  can give a tough fight against Australia if they provide a target of more than 280. There is no way to call the pitch batting friendly. It will be more difficult for Australia to score runs in the second innings on this pitch. But it will not be an easy task for Afghanistan to provide more than 260 targets.

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November 07, 2023, 10:58:49 AM
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Afghanistan doing surprisingly good right now against Aussies (124-2, 26 overs), they look confident in their batting, make most of their runs from singles, and managing RR about 5, should comfortably make 270—300, if they continue as they are playing which will be good target to defend against strong Aussie batting line-up.
Afghanistan is one of the most favorite teams in this World Cup because they have already won against Pakistan, Sri Lanka and England. Afghanistan are in a good position so far in today's match with two wickets down for 158 runs till last update. If Afghanistan can finally bat then they will collect more than 280 runs. However, in today's match, even though Afghanistan won the toss, they decided to bat to get a special advantage and Afghanistan is also using that advantage.

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November 07, 2023, 11:14:51 AM
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Afghanistan doing surprisingly good right now against Aussies (124-2, 26 overs), they look confident in their batting, make most of their runs from singles, and managing RR about 5, should comfortably make 270—300, if they continue as they are playing which will be good target to defend against strong Aussie batting line-up.

Although their scoring rate is low, they have wickets in hand. Both the batters are playing sensible cricket, continuously rotating strikes and getting some boundaries here and there. With 14 overs left in the first inning, the stage is perfectly set for the upcoming Afghanistan batsmen to score big from here. I think Afghanistan will be looking for a total of 260-290. Australian death bowling is very good, and the Afghanistan batsmen have to be at their absolute best to score at 9 or 10 runs per over from here on. The pitch looks slow, and Afghanistan spinners might trouble Australian batsmen. Australia will try to attach in the powerplay to mitigate the required run rate problem.

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November 07, 2023, 11:39:34 AM
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It was a match between two of the weakest teams in this tournament and in the end one of them won after a lot of drama.
Indeed, yesterday's match ended with some dramatic incidents, although Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan made such dramatic incidents only for his team's interest. If Bangladesh did not get the time out of Angela Mathews, then Bangladesh would have been deprived of the success of winning tomorrow's match. Although Angela Mathews expressed her displeasure with Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan in the press conference, Shakib Al Hasan had no choice but to play such a role for Bangladesh's victory.
Maybe the whole world is criticizing Shakib Al Hasan with time out tomorrow. But mainly those who understand cricket and cricket celebrities shower Shakib with praise. The reason for that is because there is a rule of playing cricket. If there is a time-out three minutes late, why will Shakib Al Hasan not take it? He must have taken interest in the interest of the team and he has shown a lot of sharp intelligence. But Angela Mathews did something wrong here as her helmet was having problem and if she had asked the umpire or Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan to change the helmet then there was no possibility of time out. But he didn't say anything to the umpire plus the captain of Bangladesh team didn't say anything. Saying no, he returned three minutes late as there are rules and applied and got the wicket. We definitely think that Shakibal Hasan has taken a very good decision for the sake of the team.

I would say it was a smart move by Shakib. He made the right decision at the right time. The match was important for Bangladesh. So if it's out of the rules then why not shakib take it? Mathews broke the rules. There was a problem with his helmet. It is also okay not to tackle a pace bowler without a helmet. But Mathews should have taken permission from the umpire and then changed the helmet. He changed the helmet as per his wish. Wasted time. After that, the umpire gave out after Shakib Al Hasan applied for out. I don't see any fault here with Shakib or the Bangladesh team. Mathews is now a professional player. But he behaved unprofessionally.

@Sithara007 I’m disappointed in Shakib and Bangladesh because they won at the cost of the integrity of this beautiful game and honestly I’m surprised as he had no regrets over this because even the umpires asked him if he was sure which showed that they clearly saw this as a poor decision. Lastly I hope that ICC can change this rule to a certain extent because I don’t want to see what I saw yesterday ever again in any match.
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November 07, 2023, 11:48:22 AM
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It was a match between two of the weakest teams in this tournament and in the end one of them won after a lot of drama.
Indeed, yesterday's match ended with some dramatic incidents, although Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan made such dramatic incidents only for his team's interest. If Bangladesh did not get the time out of Angela Mathews, then Bangladesh would have been deprived of the success of winning tomorrow's match. Although Angela Mathews expressed her displeasure with Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan in the press conference, Shakib Al Hasan had no choice but to play such a role for Bangladesh's victory.
Maybe the whole world is criticizing Shakib Al Hasan with time out tomorrow. But mainly those who understand cricket and cricket celebrities shower Shakib with praise. The reason for that is because there is a rule of playing cricket. If there is a time-out three minutes late, why will Shakib Al Hasan not take it? He must have taken interest in the interest of the team and he has shown a lot of sharp intelligence. But Angela Mathews did something wrong here as her helmet was having problem and if she had asked the umpire or Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan to change the helmet then there was no possibility of time out. But he didn't say anything to the umpire plus the captain of Bangladesh team didn't say anything. Saying no, he returned three minutes late as there are rules and applied and got the wicket. We definitely think that Shakibal Hasan has taken a very good decision for the sake of the team.
I would say it was a smart move by Shakib. He made the right decision at the right time. The match was important for Bangladesh. So if it's out of the rules then why not shakib take it? Mathews broke the rules. There was a problem with his helmet. It is also okay not to tackle a pace bowler without a helmet. But Mathews should have taken permission from the umpire and then changed the helmet. He changed the helmet as per his wish. Wasted time. After that, the umpire gave out after Shakib Al Hasan applied for out. I don't see any fault here with Shakib or the Bangladesh team. Mathews is now a professional player. But he behaved unprofessionally.
@Sithara007 I’m disappointed in Shakib and Bangladesh because they won at the cost of the integrity of this beautiful game and honestly I’m surprised as he had no regrets over this because even the umpires asked him if he was sure which showed that they clearly saw this as a poor decision. Lastly I hope that ICC can change this rule to a certain extent because I don’t want to see what I saw yesterday ever again in any match.

I cannot agree with you. First, it is the Rules. of ICC And secondly, as a result of this, the Bangladesh team could have suffered in two ways. Firstly, if Mathews had played well, it would have been difficult for Bangladesh to win if Sri Lanka had given a big target. Secondly, we have seen in several matches where the fielding team is penalized for slow overs. Mathews wasted time, and if Shakib hadn't taken this opportunity, and if Bangladesh had been penalized for a slow over later, Shakib would have had to shoulder the blame entirely. However, there is an opportunity to simplify the ICC rules a little more. ICC may think about it after the World Cup if the Sri Lanka Cricket Board appeals.

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November 07, 2023, 11:51:07 AM
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Afghanistan doing surprisingly good right now against Aussies (124-2, 26 overs), they look confident in their batting, make most of their runs from singles, and managing RR about 5, should comfortably make 270—300, if they continue as they are playing which will be good target to defend against strong Aussie batting line-up.

They are at 217/4 after 45 overs. In the next 17 overs, if they can score at 10 runs per over, then they can get to 260-280, which would be an exceptional total against a strong team like Australia. Ibrahim Zadran and Mohammad Nabi are looking quite comfortable out there. But I have concerns about the Afghan middle-order after repeated failures. Anyway, 280 would be enough at the Wankhede Stadium. And in that case, it will be somewhat difficult for Australia to qualify for the semi-finals. But the good thing is that they already have 10 points.

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It was a match between two of the weakest teams in this tournament and in the end one of them won after a lot of drama.
Indeed, yesterday's match ended with some dramatic incidents, although Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan made such dramatic incidents only for his team's interest. If Bangladesh did not get the time out of Angela Mathews, then Bangladesh would have been deprived of the success of winning tomorrow's match. Although Angela Mathews expressed her displeasure with Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan in the press conference, Shakib Al Hasan had no choice but to play such a role for Bangladesh's victory.
Maybe the whole world is criticizing Shakib Al Hasan with time out tomorrow. But mainly those who understand cricket and cricket celebrities shower Shakib with praise. The reason for that is because there is a rule of playing cricket. If there is a time-out three minutes late, why will Shakib Al Hasan not take it? He must have taken interest in the interest of the team and he has shown a lot of sharp intelligence. But Angela Mathews did something wrong here as her helmet was having problem and if she had asked the umpire or Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan to change the helmet then there was no possibility of time out. But he didn't say anything to the umpire plus the captain of Bangladesh team didn't say anything. Saying no, he returned three minutes late as there are rules and applied and got the wicket. We definitely think that Shakibal Hasan has taken a very good decision for the sake of the team.

I would say it was a smart move by Shakib. He made the right decision at the right time. The match was important for Bangladesh. So if it's out of the rules then why not shakib take it? Mathews broke the rules. There was a problem with his helmet. It is also okay not to tackle a pace bowler without a helmet. But Mathews should have taken permission from the umpire and then changed the helmet. He changed the helmet as per his wish. Wasted time. After that, the umpire gave out after Shakib Al Hasan applied for out. I don't see any fault here with Shakib or the Bangladesh team. Mathews is now a professional player. But he behaved unprofessionally.

@Sithara007 I’m disappointed in Shakib and Bangladesh because they won at the cost of the integrity of this beautiful game and honestly I’m surprised as he had no regrets over this because even the umpires asked him if he was sure which showed that they clearly saw this as a poor decision. Lastly I hope that ICC can change this rule to a certain extent because I don’t want to see what I saw yesterday ever again in any match.
It's okay to understand that everyone has their own perspective. In my view, there's no need to be disappointed because Angelo Mathews' timing out was in accordance with the rules. Rules exist for a reason, right? Shakib made the correct decision as a captain. Mathews should have acted more professionally in this situation. He called for something without seeking permission from the opposing team's leader or the umpire. In the end, it's the umpire's decision.

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November 07, 2023, 12:04:35 PM
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Afghanistan doing surprisingly good right now against Aussies (124-2, 26 overs), they look confident in their batting, make most of their runs from singles, and managing RR about 5, should comfortably make 270—300, if they continue as they are playing which will be good target to defend against strong Aussie batting line-up.
Afghanistan's first innings total could go between 290 and 300. If Afghanistan can score 290 to 300 runs in the first innings against Australia, then I would say that this Afghanistan match is much more special than other matches. Australia have a great bowling line-up, Afghanistan 290 to 300 runs against that great bowling line-up means Afghanistan have developed a lot in their batting. Afghanistan's total is now 259 runs in 47.2 overs, with two set batsmen on the wicket and 16 balls still in hand so I'm considering Afghanistan's first innings total between 290 and 300. If Afghanistan can score 300 runs then this match will be very difficult for Australia. I believe so much that Afghanistan's bowling lineup is much more reliable than its batting lineup.

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