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Author Topic: ICC WORLD CUP 2023 DISCUSSION THREAD!  (Read 12023 times)
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October 29, 2023, 11:26:06 AM
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Bit of a fumble today at the start but i guess we can trust the Rohit-Rahul pair with the bat. Sometimes you have to respect conditions and respect the opponent bowlers as well.

In the context of the WC journey, it won't be bad if batters get a reality check. It could very well work in Indian favor as far as knockouts are concerned.

Rohit Sharma is doing his duty properly. Rohit Sharma is still unbeaten with 82 runs from 90 balls. But Kl Rahul could not extend his innings much. KL Rahul returned to the dressing room after collecting 39 runs from 58 balls. Rahul's strike rate was only 67. After a long time I saw Rahul batting at such a bad strike rate. India managed to collect 141 runs in 32 overs. They managed to collect an average of 4.4 runs per over. If Rohit Sharma survives at the crease, India will give a target of more than 260 very easily. But if Rohit Sharma is out, it may not be possible for India to collect more than 250.
165 for 5 with Rohit gone on 87 which is a big below for them because right now we have SKY and next man is Jadeja with India is having same team no place for Ashwin this not good, but they are giving their players more time which is also good right now if we have 250 this could be good score but look like today first time we will have no big score by India in this event.
Today England is doing good job from the start of this match and not allowing Indian batsmen to play freely which is their trade-mark for me pitch is not ideal for the batting which is also going to happen against England as well, and they could be not able to chase this target as well because Jadeja and K Yadav both are handy bowlers which are not easy to face in these conditions.

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October 29, 2023, 11:27:25 AM
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World cup and stupid outfield in Lucknow, same with Dharmshala yesterday.

I'm glad he's been given another chance in today's squad after unfortunate run-out in last match.
I feel that Ashwin would've been a better fit for this pitch. Maybe they should've rested Siraj?

Yeah tbh, he can also bat, today he would have come handy.

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October 29, 2023, 12:11:33 PM
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What a match this has been! Top of table team getting butchered by bottom of table team. This match should give reality check to India, Indian batting suddenly seemed so fragile.

England batters aren't in form, so may be India still can win.

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October 29, 2023, 12:30:47 PM
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What a match this has been! Top of table team getting butchered by bottom of table team. This match should give reality check to India, Indian batting suddenly seemed so fragile.

England batters aren't in form, so may be India still can win.
Today is going to be a really incredible match.India is still the top team in the points table while England is at the bottom of the points table.Today the game of these two teams so far England is performing well England is performing well especially their bowling.Only Rohit Sharma played well today and he scored 87 runs. Maybe in today's match, India is going to be all out for the lowest number of runs in this World Cup.If England can capitalize on this opportunity, they will win the match today.

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October 29, 2023, 12:40:52 PM
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Lots of miss and hits in Indian batting today. Iyer was a big disappointment because of his game plan against short pitch deliveries and Gill is kinda giving a bad vibe.

KL Rahul wicket was crucial as he and Rohit were looking good and they did the hard yards. He should've been a bit careful with the expensive shot as they had enough overs in the bank. Brohit was good but got out at the wrong which cost India at least 30 runs, similarly with SKY as he got out at the wrong time. Very pleasing to see Indian tailenders contributing 21 runs and batting full 50 overs, it's a big plus and positive because we do have a long tail. It's not a match winning total but bowlers should back themselves here, despite being 1 spinner short.  

England should look for complete domination with the bat and try not to settle Indian bowlers, otherwise, Jaddu-Kuldeep can do some serious damage.

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October 29, 2023, 12:40:58 PM
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India vs England today did not score too many runs India scored 229 runs for 9 losses. England gave a good bowling performance in today's match due to which India could not increase their runs, the number of runs decreased due to the dismissal of good batsmen. But Rohit Sharma scored the best runs, but he could not reach the target of century which is his weakness. But today England have given a target of 230 runs, it may be difficult for England to meet this target if India can bowl well. And it is difficult to say how well England will perform in batting today, we have seen in every match England team has performed very poorly and lost. England has lost against normal teams so it may not be so easy to grow with a strong team like India today. And India's bowlers bowl very well that's why England may not be able to deal with India today and it's very difficult to win.

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October 29, 2023, 12:55:16 PM
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India set a target of 230 runs for England. Indian Captain Rohit Sharma responsible knock of 87 runs in 101 balls and Suryakumar Yadav outstanding performance scored 49 runs in 47 balls just miss his half century by 1 run short, and Jasprit Bumrah 16 crucial runs helped India reach a total of 229 in 50 overs. A good bowling display from England. David Willey amazing bowling performance picked up 3 wickets by giving 45 runs in 10 overs and Chris Woakes picked up 2 wickets by giving 33 runs in 9 overs. Chris Woakes was excellent today with the new ball, and in death overs as well picked up Shubman Gill and Virat Kholi Wicket. From India Rohit Sharma played an outstanding innings on a slow, turning pitch 87 runs in 101 balls missed a well-deserved Hundred by just 13 runs. England has ability to chase down this small target 230 runs



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October 29, 2023, 01:01:02 PM
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Watching this India vs England match reminded me of the Bangladesh vs Netherlands match yesterday. Netherlands gave Bangladesh a target of 230 runs yesterday. But Bangladesh's batting line was so bad that the Bangladeshi batsmen lost one wicket after another while scoring 230 runs. In this India vs England match, India has given England a target of 230 runs. If India can bowl well today, India can win today's match. But England batting is not so bad that they can't bat a target of 230 runs, I think England will win this match very easily. 2023 World Cup India has played 6 matches. India scored the least number of runs in today's match. England has bowled brilliantly because of their good bowling they have managed to stop a team like India within 230 runs. Now if England's batsmen play a little better then they will easily win today's match.

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October 29, 2023, 01:01:13 PM
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India vs England today did not score too many runs India scored 229 runs for 9 losses. England gave a good bowling performance in today's match due to which India could not increase their runs, the number of runs decreased due to the dismissal of good batsmen. But Rohit Sharma scored the best runs, but he could not reach the target of century which is his weakness. But today England have given a target of 230 runs, it may be difficult for England to meet this target if India can bowl well. And it is difficult to say how well England will perform in batting today, we have seen in every match England team has performed very poorly and lost. England has lost against normal teams so it may not be so easy to grow with a strong team like India today. And India's bowlers bowl very well that's why England may not be able to deal with India today and it's very difficult to win.
Indian batsmen performed very badly in today's match, I did not expect such a bad performance from a strong batting line-up team like India. Shreyas Iyer, Virat Kohli, Shubman Gill got out very quickly and India was under a lot of pressure. Rohit Sharma especially tried to play big innings in this match today, he batted well today getting out for 87 off 101 balls. KL Rahul and Suryakumar Yadav both tried to do well. Today looks like India will lose and it will be their first defeat. The target of 230 runs is not enough target in ODI format. If England's batsmen can play well in today's match, then they can win easily. England need 230 runs from 300 balls to win is very easy. Today it looks like England can win very easily. If England wins, there will be some improvement in the points table and Bangladesh will go to number 10 in the points table.
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October 29, 2023, 01:07:16 PM
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The way we think, a target of 230 runs seems too easy for England but considering Lucknow's wicket, India can put up quite a fight with 229 runs. Batting on the wicket on which the game was being played was not so easy. We could see that the balls were not hitting the bat as expected which resulted in the batsmen getting out like this. The second innings started with England managing to score just four runs in the first over. Where as other teams score 300 plus runs and are not guaranteed victory, even 230 runs is not safe for India so if India are to do anything good in the match, they will have to fall several early wickets. If England can bowl economically along with falling a few early wickets, then India can create a chance to win this match.

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October 29, 2023, 01:23:10 PM
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Watching this India vs England match reminded me of the Bangladesh vs Netherlands match yesterday. Netherlands gave Bangladesh a target of 230 runs yesterday. But Bangladesh's batting line was so bad that the Bangladeshi batsmen lost one wicket after another while scoring 230 runs. In this India vs England match, India has given England a target of 230 runs. If India can bowl well today, India can win today's match. But England batting is not so bad that they can't bat a target of 230 runs, I think England will win this match very easily. 2023 World Cup India has played 6 matches. India scored the least number of runs in today's match. England has bowled brilliantly because of their good bowling they have managed to stop a team like India within 230 runs. Now if England's batsmen play a little better then they will easily win today's match.

India has given a target of 230 runs to England. England won the toss and decided to field first.Rohit Sharma and Shubman Gill entered the field with the bat.  Due to England's excellent bowling, Shubman Gill had to go back to 9 not out. Virat Kohli did not score any runs in 9 balls for his team.  India team has played 6 matches so far and they have won 5 matches.Rohit Sharma's team has already confirmed the semi-final. England have already been eliminated from the semi-finals. 230 runs target if England can bat well then they can win.
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October 29, 2023, 01:50:25 PM
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India vs England today did not score too many runs India scored 229 runs for 9 losses. England gave a good bowling performance in today's match due to which India could not increase their runs, the number of runs decreased due to the dismissal of good batsmen. But Rohit Sharma scored the best runs, but he could not reach the target of century which is his weakness. But today England have given a target of 230 runs, it may be difficult for England to meet this target if India can bowl well. And it is difficult to say how well England will perform in batting today, we have seen in every match England team has performed very poorly and lost. England has lost against normal teams so it may not be so easy to grow with a strong team like India today. And India's bowlers bowl very well that's why England may not be able to deal with India today and it's very difficult to win.
England won the toss and elected to field first.India scored 229 runs in 50 overs with fall of 9 wickets.Rohit Sharma played very well and made 87 runs in 101 balls and Suryakumar Yadav also played very well and performed  49 runs in 47 balls .KL Rahul made 39 runs in  58 balls ,no other batter played well .India set a target of 230 runs in 50 overs.Indian 6 batsmans could not enter in double figures and Kohli out  by making no run.There is an opportunity for the England to win this match, England is not performing good in this tournament.David Willy took 3 wickets by giving 45 runs in 10 overs,Woakes took 2 Wickets by giving 33 runs in 9 overs and Adil Rashid
also took 2 Wickets by giving 35 runs in 10 overs.England bowlers performed very well and stoped India on 229 runs.Now , batting is of England and England has to chase this score if it wants to be respected.England is at the bottom of the points table and won only one match , before this World Cup no one imagined the situation of England.England is seeing a low capability team than Notherland and Bangladesh teams ,this is very shocking for cricket fans.Still, England can come back  and can achieve position in semi final.

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October 29, 2023, 02:06:35 PM
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Watching this India vs England match reminded me of the Bangladesh vs Netherlands match yesterday. Netherlands gave Bangladesh a target of 230 runs yesterday. But Bangladesh's batting line was so bad that the Bangladeshi batsmen lost one wicket after another while scoring 230 runs. In this India vs England match, India has given England a target of 230 runs. If India can bowl well today, India can win today's match. But England batting is not so bad that they can't bat a target of 230 runs, I think England will win this match very easily. 2023 World Cup India has played 6 matches. India scored the least number of runs in today's match. England has bowled brilliantly because of their good bowling they have managed to stop a team like India within 230 runs. Now if England's batsmen play a little better then they will easily win today's match.

India has given a target of 230 runs to England. England won the toss and decided to field first.Rohit Sharma and Shubman Gill entered the field with the bat.  Due to England's excellent bowling, Shubman Gill had to go back to 9 not out. Virat Kohli did not score any runs in 9 balls for his team.  India team has played 6 matches so far and they have won 5 matches.Rohit Sharma's team has already confirmed the semi-final. England have already been eliminated from the semi-finals. 230 runs target if England can bat well then they can win.
As I was saying batting on this wicket will not be easy for the batsmen. Bhumra and Mohammad Shami literally destroyed England's wicket in the first 10 overs. Such a great start was what the Indian fans were waiting for. England have lost 4 wickets in the first ten overs, it is very difficult for England to come back from the bad situation they are in now because if the two batsmen who are on the wicket are out then England will definitely lose this match by a big margin. Since the ball was not coming into the bat as expected, there was nothing for the England batsmen to be in such a hurry. If the first 10 overs could have been played patiently, then the result of this match might have been in favor of England.

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October 29, 2023, 02:15:38 PM
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As I was saying batting on this wicket will not be easy for the batsmen.
It's a bat second deck because of dew and it's already visible. In the next few overs, bowlers will start using towels. They are not using one atm because of some fine spell of Bumrah and Shami. To get an advantage of dew batters need to surpass 30 yard circle so that the ball kisses the outfield regularly, so props to fielding and the bowlers to keeping things tight.

Poms are 4 down but it's still tough to defend this total here because of the conditions and Poms bat deep. Although most of em are low on confidence still India needs to ball well when the spinner comes. 

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October 29, 2023, 02:20:37 PM
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Poms are 4 down but it's still tough to defend this total here because of the conditions and Poms bat deep. Although most of em are low on confidence still India needs to ball well when the spinner comes.  

After Butler, I don't think there is anyone left to chase the small target by India. The dew factor is something that would affect the bowlers, still it won't affect the Indian team as 4 main players of the English team are already gone. Another wicket and this match would eventually become a one sided game.

Edit: Butler out! India is in dominating position.

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October 29, 2023, 02:40:51 PM
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England's current score is 52 for 5 with 15 overs to play. England's batsmen are completely disoriented after coming down to bat for 230 runs given by India. Their current state of play looks like they will be all out within 100 runs. Watching the reigning champions England play, it is clear that good times in cricket can lead to bad times. England, the current champion, today they are playing in such a way that they cannot stand up to India's players, England is almost disoriented after losing consecutive wickets. Bangladesh lost the match of Bangladesh vs Netherlands yesterday. There are many cricket fans in Bangladesh who abuse Shakib Al Hasan Bangladesh Cricket Team a lot. What we should all learn from England's game today is that good times can come at bad times in a team. We should all support our respective teams.

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Poms are 4 down but it's still tough to defend this total here because of the conditions and Poms bat deep. Although most of em are low on confidence still India needs to ball well when the spinner comes.  

After Butler, I don't think there is anyone left to chase the small target by India. The dew factor is something that would affect the bowlers, still it won't affect the Indian team as 4 main players of the English team are already gone. Another wicket and this match would eventually become a one sided game.

Edit: Butler out! India is in dominating position.

Currently, England is 5 down, and they are in deep trouble. I think this game is almost over for them. They need another 160 runs to win this match, and they have the last recognized batting pair on the crease. The task of chasing this total is huge. India bowled beautifully till now, particularly, the fast bowlers.
India should easily win this match in the next 15 to 20 overs. Spinners are tightening the screws further, and English batters are struggling to pick them up. Game over for England.

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October 29, 2023, 02:59:01 PM
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I remember the other day Bangladeshi pacer Taskin Ahmed was speaking in a pre-match conference where he said that Indian's pitches are batting-friendly and there is nothing special for bowlers. I agree that ICC wants sporting wickets so fans enjoy high-scoring matches. An Indian reporter also brought up that topic in a post-match conference after Bangladesh lost the game against the Netherlands.

But after watching the scoreboard between India vs England, I guess there are some pitches where bowlers also get benefited. England struggling at this moment and it seems it will be impossible for them to score 120 runs today.
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I remember the other day Bangladeshi pacer Taskin Ahmed was speaking in a pre-match conference where he said that Indian's pitches are batting-friendly and there is nothing special for bowlers. I agree that ICC wants sporting wickets so fans enjoy high-scoring matches. An Indian reporter also brought up that topic in a post-match conference after Bangladesh lost the game against the Netherlands.

But after watching the scoreboard between India vs England, I guess there are some pitches where bowlers also get benefited. England struggling at this moment and it seems it will be impossible for them to score 120 runs today.

Not just this wicket, even Chepauk has been good for both batting and bowling also the dew comes in the later stage which nullifies the pitches.


England again falling apart, 98/7 and great show again by Shami along with Bumrah, so probably he might replace Siraj if Hardik comes into XI and that is the right thing to do because he really proved more than anyone in the given two chances and picked 8 wickets already in his 16 overs of this tournament which also came against two big teams.

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The last known batter for England, Livingston is out. 8 wickets gone within the 30th over. This game is going to end in another couple of overs. Another game where Indian batters were not good but bowlers proved that they are an attack to reckon. Mohammad Shami again proved that he needs to be part of the playing 11. After Hardik makes a comeback which I am uncertain for now, Rohit would be in a dilemma to choose either Shami or Shiraz.

Edit: Shami takes his fourth wicket, England lost 9. Can he get another fifer again?
 

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