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November 09, 2023, 06:28:48 PM
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When New Zealand won the toss and decided to field, at first I thought that maybe it was because of the bad weather that the New Zealand captain took this decision. That is because New Zealand scored 401 runs against Pakistan but Pakistan won the match due to rain. This may be the main reason why the New Zealand captain decided to field to win the toss today.  After bowling out Sri Lanka for 171, I might have thought that if New Zealand were to bat, two wickets would be the maximum they could take. But New Zealand's target of 172 runs required them to lose five wickets to win.
New Zealand have chased down the 172/5 target in just 24th overs and New Zealand are almost qualify for the Semifinal of world cup, they have 10 points and positive 0.74 run rate. i think New Zealand are going to face India in the semifinal because india are top of the points table and New Zealand is fouth position on points table of world cup. and i can say one more thing Pakistan and Afghanistan are unofficially out of the world cup 2023.

41 st game was now overed. In this match, New Zealand won toss and they decided to bat first in field. Sri Lanka performance in this match was totally bad in bowling side, fielding side and batting side. Sri Lanka team set a target of 171 runs in today match. This target was not satisfying and hope for winning. In past game, Sri Lanka beat by India team and entire team dismissed at 55 runs only now they dismissed at 171 runs. D.Conway scored 45 runs in 42 balls and he hitted nine 4s. D.Mitchell scored 42 runs in 35 balls and he hitted five 4s and two 6s. In Sri Lankan bowler T.Boult collected 3 wickets of New Zealand team with 10 overs and 37 runs. Now I am waiting for Pakistan match with opponent or England team.

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November 09, 2023, 06:59:32 PM
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Anyone interested in the Afghanistan vs South Africa match which will be played tomorrow? Since all the semi-final slots have been decided already, the viewership for the remaining matches will be at record low. And even the India vs Netherlands match is going to get impacted. And this is the problem with having a group of 10 teams playing against each other. Now the world cup will go in to hibernation mode until the first semi-final, which will be played on 15th November at the Wankhede Stadium in Mumbai.

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November 09, 2023, 07:59:59 PM
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When New Zealand won the toss and decided to field, at first I thought that maybe it was because of the bad weather that the New Zealand captain took this decision. That is because New Zealand scored 401 runs against Pakistan but Pakistan won the match due to rain. This may be the main reason why the New Zealand captain decided to field to win the toss today.  After bowling out Sri Lanka for 171, I might have thought that if New Zealand were to bat, two wickets would be the maximum they could take. But New Zealand's target of 172 runs required them to lose five wickets to win.
New Zealand have chased down the 172/5 target in just 24th overs and New Zealand are almost qualify for the Semifinal of world cup, they have 10 points and positive 0.74 run rate. i think New Zealand are going to face India in the semifinal because india are top of the points table and New Zealand is fouth position on points table of world cup. and i can say one more thing Pakistan and Afghanistan are unofficially out of the world cup 2023.

No one would have imagined that Sri Lanka would do so badly against New Zealand today but today is proof that cricket is a game of uncertainty. Any accident on the cricket field cannot be regretted. Sri Lanka's loss to New Zealand ended Pakistan's semi-final dreams. However, we prepare for the next step as soon as we see the semi-final game. Hopefully the semi finals will be very good and very competitive. But I was very hurt by Pakistan's elimination from the semi-final because I thought the semi-final should be between Pakistan and India.

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November 09, 2023, 11:30:47 PM
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When New Zealand won the toss and decided to field, at first I thought that maybe it was because of the bad weather that the New Zealand captain took this decision. That is because New Zealand scored 401 runs against Pakistan but Pakistan won the match due to rain. This may be the main reason why the New Zealand captain decided to field to win the toss today.  After bowling out Sri Lanka for 171, I might have thought that if New Zealand were to bat, two wickets would be the maximum they could take. But New Zealand's target of 172 runs required them to lose five wickets to win.
New Zealand have chased down the 172/5 target in just 24th overs and New Zealand are almost qualify for the Semifinal of world cup, they have 10 points and positive 0.74 run rate. i think New Zealand are going to face India in the semifinal because india are top of the points table and New Zealand is fouth position on points table of world cup. and i can say one more thing Pakistan and Afghanistan are unofficially out of the world cup 2023.

Even though England beat England by a big margin in the match between England and Pakistan, it is never possible for Pakistan to beat New Zealand's net run rate. So Pakistan's dream of reaching the semi-finals in 2023 World Cup is over for now. However, Pakistan will finish their last match as the top 5 team in this World Cup. Had Pakistan taken the games seriously in the early days then today's last over net run rate for Pakistan would not have been calculated. Pakistan could well have made it to the semi-finals.

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November 10, 2023, 01:16:20 AM
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Today is the 42nd match of the World Cup South Africa vs Afghanistan. South Africa has already qualified for the semi-finals, while Afghanistan will not qualify for the semi-finals. Because Afghanistan has NRR -0.33, if Afghanistan win NRR will be difficult to be more plus than New Zealand. It will be difficult for Afghanistan to win against South Africa today. Either New Zealand or Pakistan will qualify as the fourth team to play in the semi-finals. But New Zealand is slightly ahead.
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November 10, 2023, 02:21:15 AM
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I really wanted to see another game between Pakistan and India. New Zealand destroyed all hopes of another game because of hopeless Srilankan team. The tail enders batted better than those who were meant only to bat in the Srilankan team. Srilankan cricket is on the brink of collapse. I doubt if they would qualify for the next World Cup if they keep playing in the same manner. The board and the team is in shambles.

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I really wanted to see another game between Pakistan and India. New Zealand destroyed all hopes of another game because of hopeless Srilankan team. The tail enders batted better than those who were meant only to bat in the Srilankan team. Srilankan cricket is on the brink of collapse. I doubt if they would qualify for the next World Cup if they keep playing in the same manner. The board and the team is in shambles.

Well.. people are getting tired of the frequent India vs Pakistan clashes. We had 5-6 of them this year, including those in Asia Cup and Asian Games. The interest is really low. Peak viewership in Hotstar was just 23 million for the India vs Pakistan clash in the world cup, when compared to 44 million for the India vs South Africa match and 43 million for the India vs New Zealand match. Also, Pakistan is not being competitive in recent matches against India, and I believe that the Kiwis will be able to put up a better fight against the Indians.

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November 10, 2023, 04:23:12 AM
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New Zealand had a chance today to stay in contention for the semifinals but New Zealand failed there. New Zealand picked up the first nine wickets very quickly but New Zealand had to wait a long time to pick up the last wicket due to which Sri Lanka's first innings collection went from embarrassing to good. The target for New Zealand was that if they could secure victory against Sri Lanka in twenty overs with the fall of fewer wickets, Pakistan would need to win by a minimum margin of 300 runs against England to progress to the next round. Beating England by 300 runs was impossible for Pakistan to catch so definitely New Zealand would have played the semi-final but New Zealand couldn't do it. Batting 23 overs secured a 5 wicket win against Sri Lanka due to which their net run rate is not very comfortable. If Pakistan can beat England by a big margin in the next match, then Pakistan will make a great chance to play in the semi-finals.
Beating England by 300 runs is an impossible task for Pakistan. While it's feasible for Pakistan to score 500 and restrict England to 211, the scenario is only applicable if Pakistan wins the toss. If England wins the toss and elects to bat first, the situation changes.

In my opinion, New Zealand will likely progress, and they should focus on their next match.
If Pakistan can bat first then there will be some chance but if for some reason England bat then it will be an impossible equation for Pakistan to qualify for semi final. The equation is that if Pakistan bat first then England need to beat Pakistan by 280 plus runs and if Pakistan bat later they need to win the match in three overs. It is certain that no equation will come in Pakistan's favor but the first equation is more possible than the second equation but the second equation is absolutely impossible. 

Just as we have no dream of Pakistan qualifying for the semi-finals, Pakistan may have given up hope. Pakistan players and team management might be satisfied with a win against England as that win will not help them qualify for the semi-finals.

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November 10, 2023, 04:37:14 AM
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^ Still it'll be interesting game if Pakistan wins the toss, they will go aggressive from the start (like Zaman against NZ) and if it works out well we might see 400+ target, looking at England's current form, they just might win.

One of few times, I'll be excited who wins the toss.

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November 10, 2023, 05:24:44 AM
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^ Still it'll be interesting game if Pakistan wins the toss, they will go aggressive from the start (like Zaman against NZ) and if it works out well we might see 400+ target, looking at England's current form, they just might win.

One of few times, I'll be excited who wins the toss.
Pakistan need one more win before winning the match against England and that win is to win the toss although winning the toss is totally depends on luck still Pakistani fans will definitely want Pakistan to win the toss today against England. Winning the toss will make it very easy for Pakistan to qualify for the semi finals but not at all but Pakistan will have a chance. We saw Pakistan batting aggressively against New Zealand, if Pakistan can bat aggressively after winning the toss against England and bowl England out within 150 runs with a target of 400 plus runs then Pakistan will have a chance to go to the semi finals. Equations are as simple as reality for us but as difficult, first win the toss then batting very aggressively and there may be many things in between which we are not mentioning now but Pakistan will play a good match against England today for sure.

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November 10, 2023, 05:26:09 AM
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^ Still it'll be interesting game if Pakistan wins the toss, they will go aggressive from the start (like Zaman against NZ) and if it works out well we might see 400+ target, looking at England's current form, they just might win.

One of few times, I'll be excited who wins the toss.
Pakistan need one more win before winning the match against England and that win is to win the toss although winning the toss is totally depends on luck still Pakistani fans will definitely want Pakistan to win the toss today against England. Winning the toss will make it very easy for Pakistan to qualify for the semi finals but not at all but Pakistan will have a chance. We saw Pakistan batting aggressively against New Zealand, if Pakistan can bat aggressively after winning the toss against England and bowl England out within 150 runs with a target of 400 plus runs then Pakistan will have a chance to go to the semi finals. Equations are as simple as reality for us but as difficult, first win the toss then batting very aggressively and there may be many things in between which we are not mentioning now but Pakistan will play a good match against England today for sure.

Bruh today we have SA vs Afghanistan

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November 10, 2023, 05:40:01 AM
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^ Still it'll be interesting game if Pakistan wins the toss, they will go aggressive from the start (like Zaman against NZ) and if it works out well we might see 400+ target, looking at England's current form, they just might win.

One of few times, I'll be excited who wins the toss.

If Pakistan makes 400, then they need to bowl out England for 113. It is possible and it has happened before. In this tournament, Australia made 399 and then bowled out Netherlands for 90, which gave them a victory margin of 309 runs. Pakistan needs a victory margin of 287, in order to qualify for the semi-finals. But it is up to them, whether they want to try for that or not. And let's not forget the scenario during Netherlands vs Scotland match in world cup qualifier. Netherlands was faced with an almost impossible scenario to qualify to the world cup, but even then they managed it.

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November 10, 2023, 07:46:19 AM
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Today narendra modi stadium Ahmedabad is going to face Afghanistan vs South Africa. Meanwhile South Africa have already confirmed their semi-final. Afghanistan are going to face a tough challenger today, New Zealand are well ahead in the semi-final race after beating Sri Lanka by 5 wickets earlier in the day. Afghanistan will face a tough equation heading into today's semi-finals. They have to win the match today, they have to beat South Africa by a huge margin. According to NNR New Zealand is far ahead where NNR of New Zealand is +0.743 Afghanistan NNR is -0.338. To go to semi final as fourth team must win and NNR must be more than New Zealand. Pakistan, on the other hand, will face the same equation NNR is +0.036. It will be much more difficult for Afghanistan to do so with tough opponents South Africa. This cricket ground ODI first innings score average 237, second innings score average 207 in that case the toss is very important. Here the spin bowlers will have a huge advantage. In that case the spin unit from South Africa to Afghanistan is very strong. Today's match is going to be very interesting. Can Afghanistan show any new surprises today?

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I really wanted to see another game between Pakistan and India. New Zealand destroyed all hopes of another game because of hopeless Srilankan team. The tail enders batted better than those who were meant only to bat in the Srilankan team. Srilankan cricket is on the brink of collapse. I doubt if they would qualify for the next World Cup if they keep playing in the same manner. The board and the team is in shambles.

Well.. people are getting tired of the frequent India vs Pakistan clashes. We had 5-6 of them this year, including those in Asia Cup and Asian Games. The interest is really low. Peak viewership in Hotstar was just 23 million for the India vs Pakistan clash in the world cup, when compared to 44 million for the India vs South Africa match and 43 million for the India vs New Zealand match. Also, Pakistan is not being competitive in recent matches against India, and I believe that the Kiwis will be able to put up a better fight against the Indians.
And it's not like Pakistan gave a tough fight in any ODI match against India. This year every single ODI encounter was one sided and with every defeat, they felt the identity crisis in general and the morale went down for everyone. This added more frustration and it was quite visible from silly statements by Director Mickey Arthur etc.

Kiwis are a dangerous team, and facing them again in the semis is like our own PTSD moment.  Grin Grin

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November 10, 2023, 08:39:53 AM
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^ Still it'll be interesting game if Pakistan wins the toss, they will go aggressive from the start (like Zaman against NZ) and if it works out well we might see 400+ target, looking at England's current form, they just might win.

One of few times, I'll be excited who wins the toss.
Nahhh boss... Pakistan would have no chance after today's match.
Yesterday's defeat to Sri Lanka crushed Pakistan's dream of reaching the semi-finals. There is no chance for Pakistan to reach the semi-finals. Because Pakistan does not have the power to defeat England by such a huge margin and no matter how big a miracle happens, Pakistan cannot defeat England by such a huge margin. So in this world cup for now Pakistan will not dream of playing semi-final as they were looking at the match between Sri Lanka and New Zealand and if New Zealand were to lose then there was a chance of Pakistan reaching the semi-final but with the defeat all the chances are nil.

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November 10, 2023, 08:41:49 AM
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When New Zealand won the toss and decided to field, at first I thought that maybe it was because of the bad weather that the New Zealand captain took this decision. That is because New Zealand scored 401 runs against Pakistan but Pakistan won the match due to rain. This may be the main reason why the New Zealand captain decided to field to win the toss today.  After bowling out Sri Lanka for 171, I might have thought that if New Zealand were to bat, two wickets would be the maximum they could take. But New Zealand's target of 172 runs required them to lose five wickets to win.
New Zealand have chased down the 172/5 target in just 24th overs and New Zealand are almost qualify for the Semifinal of world cup, they have 10 points and positive 0.74 run rate. i think New Zealand are going to face India in the semifinal because india are top of the points table and New Zealand is fouth position on points table of world cup. and i can say one more thing Pakistan and Afghanistan are unofficially out of the world cup 2023.

41 st game was now overed. In this match, New Zealand won toss and they decided to bat first in field. Sri Lanka performance in this match was totally bad in bowling side, fielding side and batting side. Sri Lanka team set a target of 171 runs in today match. This target was not satisfying and hope for winning. In past game, Sri Lanka beat by India team and entire team dismissed at 55 runs only now they dismissed at 171 runs. D.Conway scored 45 runs in 42 balls and he hitted nine 4s. D.Mitchell scored 42 runs in 35 balls and he hitted five 4s and two 6s. In Sri Lankan bowler T.Boult collected 3 wickets of New Zealand team with 10 overs and 37 runs. Now I am waiting for Pakistan match with opponent or England team.
this crucial 41st match of the Cricket World Cup ended and New Zealand secured a brilliant five-wicket victory over Sri Lanka in Bengaluru. New Zealand Opting to bowl first after winning the toss, New Zealand brilliant bowling and led by Trent Boult bowl an impressive 37/3 that helped restricted Sri Lanka to 171. Despite dropping a few catches, New Zealand dominant performance was bowling and by their all-round batting display. Devon Conway, Rachin Ravindra, and Daryl Mitchell contributed with some valuable runs ensuring victory with 160 balls to spare.

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Nahhh boss... Pakistan would have no chance after today's match.
Yesterday's defeat to Sri Lanka crushed Pakistan's dream of reaching the semi-finals. There is no chance for Pakistan to reach the semi-finals. Because Pakistan does not have the power to defeat England by such a huge margin and no matter how big a miracle happens, Pakistan cannot defeat England by such a huge margin. So in this world cup for now Pakistan will not dream of playing semi-final as they were looking at the match between Sri Lanka and New Zealand and if New Zealand were to lose then there was a chance of Pakistan reaching the semi-final but with the defeat all the chances are nil.
Undoubtedly, just as Afghanistan is playing with the reality against South Africa today, Pakistan will have to play with the reality against England that they will not be able to qualify for the semi-finals in any way. Pakistan has to plan ahead with the champion trophy. Since the World Cup is out of Pakistan's hands, Pakistan's next plan should be the Champions Trophy. That is why I mentioned the Champions Trophy because the Champions Trophy which will be held in 2026 will be hosted by Pakistan. Just as India is performing very well at home, Pakistan should perform at its best in the Champions Trophy. 

Now only the semi-final matches of this world cup tournament will be much more exciting and the remaining matches will not be very exciting.

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November 10, 2023, 09:51:35 AM
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Afghanistan has been a successful team so far in this World Cup as a new team.They have won almost every match after losing their first match against Bangladesh which is unbelievable.Afghanistan's batting and bowling lineups were both correct in this World Cup due to which they won their matches with proper game plan.
However, in today's match, Afghanistan looks different as they lost three wickets in exchange for just 57 runs.Playing like this, Afghanistan might not be able to win against South Africa because South Africa's batting line-up is very strong.

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November 10, 2023, 10:27:02 AM
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The way Afghanistan are batting today it looks like they have already accepted their defeat. They have lost quickly 4 wickets and struggling to even take singles. Keshav Maharaj bowling has been good today. Already has 2 wickets and gave only 16 runs. He still has 3 more overs left and I am feeling that he might get another couple of wickets before his spells end. South Africa will win today as I doubt Afghanistan would be able to put up a big target.

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November 10, 2023, 10:39:18 AM
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And it's not like Pakistan gave a tough fight in any ODI match against India. This year every single ODI encounter was one sided and with every defeat, they felt the identity crisis in general and the morale went down for everyone. This added more frustration and it was quite visible from silly statements by Director Mickey Arthur etc.

Kiwis are a dangerous team, and facing them again in the semis is like our own PTSD moment.  Grin Grin

LOL.. agreed on both Pakistan and New Zealand. Pakistani players seems to be suffering from a low morale. There are excuses, such as the absence of Naseem Shah. But then, it is not good for any of the teams to be dependent upon a single player. And even if Naseem was included in the squad, there is no guarantee that Pakistan would have performed better. And in case of New Zealand, they are a side capable of making upsets. But they don't always perform well in Indian conditions, unlike teams like Australia and South Africa.

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