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November 13, 2023, 12:20:22 PM
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It looks like the World Cup tournament has almost come to an end. Only three more matches to decide who will win the World Cup. India, who are unbeaten so far in this tournament, will face New Zealand in the first semi-final, who have been runners-up for the last two times. India are such a team now that it becomes very difficult to analyze them. On the other hand, South Africa will face Australia in the second semi-final. Australia's performance started off slow at the start of the group stage, but they turned around later. South Africa has shown a very good batting performance in this tournament. The two semi-final games are going to be very crowded. Just one more week to decide who will be the champion.
The World Cup tournament is over, the first leg is already over, now we have only two semi-final matches and one final match to look forward to. Comparing the four teams, it is very easy to place India ahead for this World Cup as India is the only team that has secured 100% win in all the nine matches of the first leg. You cannot show a single player in India who is out of form. Every player is outperforming every other player. India played a match against New Zealand in the first leg and India defeated New Zealand by a big margin. So I consider India as the favorite for the semi-final match against New Zealand and if India does not perform too badly then India will definitely go to the final of the World Cup tournament.

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November 13, 2023, 12:41:35 PM
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No other team is in great form like India. New Zealand, South Africa and Australia have played quite well. However, their performance was somewhat erratic. South Africa has batted brilliantly in this World Cup. Even then this team lost against India by a huge margin of 243 runs. India defeated a strong team like Australia very easily. India's most competitive match in this World Cup was against New Zealand. New Zealand set a target of just 274 runs in this match. It was not easy for India to collect 274 runs even though the target was low. India reached the target of victory in 48 overs losing 6 wickets. But in the semi-final match, India will probably dominate and win against New Zealand.

Australia's performance haven't been erratic, they lost first two games poorly but they came back well, Australia that was defeated in first two games is not the same Australia now, I feel like they gonna win against SA and we'll see them in finals.

Regarding, India vs NZ semi match, I'm drifting more towards India just because NZ is heavily dependent on Ravindra and Williamson and sometimes Mitchell can play good knock and may take team to the shore but otherwise rest of batters haven't been playing as they should.

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November 13, 2023, 12:50:12 PM
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It looks like the World Cup tournament has almost come to an end. Only three more matches to decide who will win the World Cup. India, who are unbeaten so far in this tournament, will face New Zealand in the first semi-final, who have been runners-up for the last two times. India are such a team now that it becomes very difficult to analyze them. On the other hand, South Africa will face Australia in the second semi-final. Australia's performance started off slow at the start of the group stage, but they turned around later. South Africa has shown a very good batting performance in this tournament. The two semi-final games are going to be very crowded. Just one more week to decide who will be the champion.

No other team is in great form like India. New Zealand, South Africa and Australia have played quite well. However, their performance was somewhat erratic. South Africa has batted brilliantly in this World Cup. Even then this team lost against India by a huge margin of 243 runs. India defeated a strong team like Australia very easily. India's most competitive match in this World Cup was against New Zealand. New Zealand set a target of just 274 runs in this match. It was not easy for India to collect 274 runs even though the target was low. India reached the target of victory in 48 overs losing 6 wickets. But in the semi-final match, India will probably dominate and win against New Zealand.
India and New Zealand will meet in the first semi-final of this World Cup.Both India and New Zealand are strong teams with both good batting and bowlers who can turn the tide of the match in a moment.India is still an unbeaten team in this World Cup.India are the favorites for World Cup 2003 with every player in great form.We saw that in the last match they collected 410 against Netherlands and won against them by a huge margin of 160 runs.Anyone watching India play would say that maybe they are going to win this World Cup.

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November 13, 2023, 01:23:39 PM
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It looks like the World Cup tournament has almost come to an end. Only three more matches to decide who will win the World Cup. India, who are unbeaten so far in this tournament, will face New Zealand in the first semi-final, who have been runners-up for the last two times. India are such a team now that it becomes very difficult to analyze them. On the other hand, South Africa will face Australia in the second semi-final. Australia's performance started off slow at the start of the group stage, but they turned around later. South Africa has shown a very good batting performance in this tournament. The two semi-final games are going to be very crowded. Just one more week to decide who will be the champion.
The World Cup tournament is over, the first leg is already over, now we have only two semi-final matches and one final match to look forward to. Comparing the four teams, it is very easy to place India ahead for this World Cup as India is the only team that has secured 100% win in all the nine matches of the first leg. You cannot show a single player in India who is out of form. Every player is outperforming every other player. India played a match against New Zealand in the first leg and India defeated New Zealand by a big margin. So I consider India as the favorite for the semi-final match against New Zealand and if India does not perform too badly then India will definitely go to the final of the World Cup tournament.
The World Cup tournament is almost at an end with only three matches remaining.In the game of cricket, nothing is guaranteed when anything can happen, as evidenced by the smaller teams in this World Cup.But everyone understands and believes that India is the best team.India and New Zealand faced each other in a group stage match and India won.

New Zealand have been the unluckiest team in the World Cup so far who have played in the World Cup final many times but never won the trophy.In the last World Cup they were defeated by England in the final match.Their fortunes did not help in the World Cup where they were miserably defeated by England.
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November 13, 2023, 01:45:05 PM
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Australia's performance haven't been erratic, they lost first two games poorly but they came back well, Australia that was defeated in first two games is not the same Australia now, I feel like they gonna win against SA and we'll see them in finals.

Regarding, India vs NZ semi match, I'm drifting more towards India just because NZ is heavily dependent on Ravindra and Williamson and sometimes Mitchell can play good knock and may take team to the shore but otherwise rest of batters haven't been playing as they should.
South Africa has a history of doing well in the group stage but losing in the semi-finals many times. So for the time being I will not exclude South Africa this time as well because they will be defeated by Australia after playing very well in the group stage. If the balance was not right in the beginning in Australia but later they have brought a balance in the team and are getting great feedback. Australia will most likely participate in the final match with India in this equation. However, this year's favorite India cannot be excluded from the champion. The New Zealand match on 15th will prove India's strength and New Zealand's defeat in that match is certain.

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November 13, 2023, 01:50:28 PM
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Harish Rauf has bowled today some of the weirdest wides and has been expensive. England was struggling in the initial overs but now both openers are doing good. Bangladesh batted extremely well and this might be the first time they have put on 309 runs on the scoreboard batting first. If they bowl well then they can win today unless Maxwell again plays too well today. For Pakistan, it is not looking good for now as both seamers were unsuccessful in getting any wickets and now spin is not working too.
It is the 44 match of ICC world cup. It is the between Pakistan and england. it is very important for both team. If england won the match Pakistan  out the world cup.Pakistan will have to win today match with run rate.So it is very difficult for Pakistan. England won the toss and elected batting. England batsman makes 8 run in 2 over and Pakistan no any wicket against england.England batsman makes 59 run in 8 over.England batsmen are playing with a lot of struggle and effort.If they continue to play like this it will become a very difficult target for Pakistan, due to which they will have to lose today's match.

Now, the Pakistan team lost the No. 1 position for one day, and Babar Azam, and Shaheen Shah Afridi both lost the No. 1 position in the ODI. Babar Azam has maintained this position such a long time, he became the no.1 batsman on 14th April 2021, which was such a long time, and Babar Azam and Shaheen can’t make it again or if so both need to play with full of dedication, but Pakistan doesn’t have any one day match for 1 year, Pakistan has next ODI matches on November 2024 so now it is difficult for this again because you know.
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The World Cup tournament is over, the first leg is already over, now we have only two semi-final matches and one final match to look forward to. Comparing the four teams, it is very easy to place India ahead for this World Cup as India is the only team that has secured 100% win in all the nine matches of the first leg. You cannot show a single player in India who is out of form. Every player is outperforming every other player. India played a match against New Zealand in the first leg and India defeated New Zealand by a big margin. So I consider India as the favorite for the semi-final match against New Zealand and if India does not perform too badly then India will definitely go to the final of the World Cup tournament.

The league matches of the World Cup was successfully ended now with the India vs Netherland game.India had again scored hi 400+ runs in the World Cup against the team Netherland,before India had made his 400+ against the Bermuda cricket team.So now we are in the Knock out matches against the team and close to the final.The team which had made the 4th position need to play against the team which top the table.So this give advantage to the team top the table in the semi final.Only the team which had 2nd and 3rd position had huge hard game to get into the final of the long waited World Cup.Most of the people thought India meets the Australia in the Finals.
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November 13, 2023, 02:11:15 PM
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Harish Rauf has bowled today some of the weirdest wides and has been expensive. England was struggling in the initial overs but now both openers are doing good. Bangladesh batted extremely well and this might be the first time they have put on 309 runs on the scoreboard batting first. If they bowl well then they can win today unless Maxwell again plays too well today. For Pakistan, it is not looking good for now as both seamers were unsuccessful in getting any wickets and now spin is not working too.
It is the 44 match of ICC world cup. It is the between Pakistan and england. it is very important for both team. If england won the match Pakistan  out the world cup.Pakistan will have to win today match with run rate.So it is very difficult for Pakistan. England won the toss and elected batting. England batsman makes 8 run in 2 over and Pakistan no any wicket against england.England batsman makes 59 run in 8 over.England batsmen are playing with a lot of struggle and effort.If they continue to play like this it will become a very difficult target for Pakistan, due to which they will have to lose today's match.

Now, the Pakistan team lost the No. 1 position for one day, and Babar Azam, and Shaheen Shah Afridi both lost the No. 1 position in the ODI. Babar Azam has maintained this position such a long time, he became the no.1 batsman on 14th April 2021, which was such a long time, and Babar Azam and Shaheen can’t make it again or if so both need to play with full of dedication, but Pakistan doesn’t have any one day match for 1 year, Pakistan has next ODI matches on November 2024 so now it is difficult for this again because you know.
It is natural that Babar Azam will lose the number one position as they don't have any significant matches in this World Cup as their performance was so bad that they couldn't make it to the semi-finals this time. They failed to qualify for this year's semi-finals after losing to Afghanistan and South Africa. Because of this Babar Azam will lose his position and as far as I know Indian batsman Shubman Gill is very close to Babar Azam's position. However, Babar Azam has been in his position for a long time but due to some poor performance in the middle, he will lose his first position in statistics and he will not be able to recover one position very easily.

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November 13, 2023, 03:45:18 PM
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It looks like the World Cup tournament has almost come to an end. Only three more matches to decide who will win the World Cup. India, who are unbeaten so far in this tournament, will face New Zealand in the first semi-final, who have been runners-up for the last two times. India are such a team now that it becomes very difficult to analyze them. On the other hand, South Africa will face Australia in the second semi-final. Australia's performance started off slow at the start of the group stage, but they turned around later. South Africa has shown a very good batting performance in this tournament. The two semi-final games are going to be very crowded. Just one more week to decide who will be the champion.
The four teams that will play the semi-finals of the 2023 World Cup are fairly strong. India vs New Zealand will participate in the first semi-final, in this match I will put India ahead. Because India is in great form in the World Cup every Indian player is playing well. The second semi-final will be played between South Africa vs Australia and I will put Australia ahead in this match. Because there are some great batsmen like David Warner Maxwell who are doing great. I think we can see India and Australia in the final this time.

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November 13, 2023, 04:29:34 PM
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Harish Rauf has bowled today some of the weirdest wides and has been expensive. England was struggling in the initial overs but now both openers are doing good. Bangladesh batted extremely well and this might be the first time they have put on 309 runs on the scoreboard batting first. If they bowl well then they can win today unless Maxwell again plays too well today. For Pakistan, it is not looking good for now as both seamers were unsuccessful in getting any wickets and now spin is not working too.
It is the 44 match of ICC world cup. It is the between Pakistan and england. it is very important for both team. If england won the match Pakistan  out the world cup.Pakistan will have to win today match with run rate.So it is very difficult for Pakistan. England won the toss and elected batting. England batsman makes 8 run in 2 over and Pakistan no any wicket against england.England batsman makes 59 run in 8 over.England batsmen are playing with a lot of struggle and effort.If they continue to play like this it will become a very difficult target for Pakistan, due to which they will have to lose today's match.

Now, the Pakistan team lost the No. 1 position for one day, and Babar Azam, and Shaheen Shah Afridi both lost the No. 1 position in the ODI. Babar Azam has maintained this position such a long time, he became the no.1 batsman on 14th April 2021, which was such a long time, and Babar Azam and Shaheen can’t make it again or if so both need to play with full of dedication, but Pakistan doesn’t have any one day match for 1 year, Pakistan has next ODI matches on November 2024 so now it is difficult for this again because you know.
It is natural that Babar Azam will lose the number one position as they don't have any significant matches in this World Cup as their performance was so bad that they couldn't make it to the semi-finals this time. They failed to qualify for this year's semi-finals after losing to Afghanistan and South Africa. Because of this Babar Azam will lose his position and as far as I know Indian batsman Shubman Gill is very close to Babar Azam's position. However, Babar Azam has been in his position for a long time but due to some poor performance in the middle, he will lose his first position in statistics and he will not be able to recover one position very easily.
Everybody knows Baber Azam is World Class player and he has same capability like Virat Kohli. And Shubman Gill is new batsman, there are few good days of Shubman Gill and after Babar Azam will gain his form and he will play excellently. Virat  Kohli is playing very good and he has capability to gain position first in all formats.In past, No Pakistani  player maintained first position like Babar Azam ,it is big work of Babar Azam . Pakistani team is at top in T20 farmat ,it is due to only Babar Azam.Babar Azam is very hard working man but he can't qualify his team to Semi final to due to bad luck .If umpire gave out last batsman against South Africa match , Pakistan could qualify for final. That was empire decision and that was Pakistani bad luck.

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November 13, 2023, 04:59:12 PM
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Australia's performance haven't been erratic, they lost first two games poorly but they came back well, Australia that was defeated in first two games is not the same Australia now, I feel like they gonna win against SA and we'll see them in finals.

Regarding, India vs NZ semi match, I'm drifting more towards India just because NZ is heavily dependent on Ravindra and Williamson and sometimes Mitchell can play good knock and may take team to the shore but otherwise rest of batters haven't been playing as they should.
South Africa has a history of doing well in the group stage but losing in the semi-finals many times. So for the time being I will not exclude South Africa this time as well because they will be defeated by Australia after playing very well in the group stage. If the balance was not right in the beginning in Australia but later they have brought a balance in the team and are getting great feedback. Australia will most likely participate in the final match with India in this equation. However, this year's favorite India cannot be excluded from the champion. The New Zealand match on 15th will prove India's strength and New Zealand's defeat in that match is certain.
Now it is surely test case for the South Africa can they go into their first final of the ICC ODI world cup with having impressive performance in all league matches lost against the Netherlands and India was also cautious for them, and they have to learn from their mistakes if they want to do some better in coming matches After 1999 world cup semifinal again they are going to face Australia which was winner of last match just because of winner into league match but now it's good time for the South African to take revenge and have their performance as par their standard.

Playing against spinners is surely nightmare for them while chasing but in coming matches their performance need best specially from their top order which is doing good in all round league matches with their bowlers are also giving them good stuff.

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ICC rankings (White ball) are a joke and context matters most. The red ball ranking still has some juice in it.

Any Player and team can achieve a high ranking easily if they keep playing against 2nd string team, similar to Pakistan. They played a fair amount of ODI but top teams like NZ, AUS, ENG fielded their 2nd string team because at that time everyone's focus was on the Test series and IPL, also it was pandemic bubble time.

Another example is that you hardly see Big teams fielding their full strength team in bilateral. ENG, AUS, IND are prime examples and in recent times NZ also started doing this. On the other hand, Pakistan always goes with the full strength team even against ZIM.

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It is natural that Babar Azam will lose the number one position as they don't have any significant matches in this World Cup as their performance was so bad that they couldn't make it to the semi-finals this time. They failed to qualify for this year's semi-finals after losing to Afghanistan and South Africa. Because of this Babar Azam will lose his position and as far as I know Indian batsman Shubman Gill is very close to Babar Azam's position. However, Babar Azam has been in his position for a long time but due to some poor performance in the middle, he will lose his first position in statistics and he will not be able to recover one position very easily.
Shubman Gill is already No 1 in ODI batsmen ranking with 830 ranking and Babar Azam is second with 824 ranking after these round league matches in this world cup and most chances we will have Shubman Gill at this spot for the long time because no ODI matches are going to play after world cup for the Pakistan.

Babar Azam performance in World Cup is surely disappointing as he completely fails to make his mark on these batting pitches where we have impressive performance from the Virat Kohli, Q. de Kock, Rachin Ravindra and Rohit Sharma which done good job for their teams, and now they have spotted into last four as well 2024 is ending with the worst time for the Babar Azam and Pakistan as they are having many internal issues and their performance in world cup was also not as par requirement.
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It looks like the World Cup tournament has almost come to an end. Only three more matches to decide who will win the World Cup. India, who are unbeaten so far in this tournament, will face New Zealand in the first semi-final, who have been runners-up for the last two times. India are such a team now that it becomes very difficult to analyze them. On the other hand, South Africa will face Australia in the second semi-final. Australia's performance started off slow at the start of the group stage, but they turned around later. South Africa has shown a very good batting performance in this tournament. The two semi-final games are going to be very crowded. Just one more week to decide who will be the champion.
The World Cup tournament is over, the first leg is already over, now we have only two semi-final matches and one final match to look forward to. Comparing the four teams, it is very easy to place India ahead for this World Cup as India is the only team that has secured 100% win in all the nine matches of the first leg. You cannot show a single player in India who is out of form. Every player is outperforming every other player. India played a match against New Zealand in the first leg and India defeated New Zealand by a big margin. So I consider India as the favorite for the semi-final match against New Zealand and if India does not perform too badly then India will definitely go to the final of the World Cup tournament.
The second stage has started and lets see who will win the semi-final and final.We want India to win because they win all the matches.Because his batsmen want to win this ICC World Cup that's why they win 9 out of 9 matches.There is no Indian player who is out of form as they play with struggle and hard work and support each other.India has a golden chance to win the ICC World Cup.Because the Indian team wins the hearts of all people.  So everyone wants Indian team to win semi final and final.India played very well in every match and would like to win the semi final and final.

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ICC rankings (White ball) are a joke and context matters most. The red ball ranking still has some juice in it.

Any Player and team can achieve a high ranking easily if they keep playing against 2nd string team, similar to Pakistan. They played a fair amount of ODI but top teams like NZ, AUS, ENG fielded their 2nd string team because at that time everyone's focus was on the Test series and IPL, also it was pandemic bubble time.

Another example is that you hardly see Big teams fielding their full strength team in bilateral. ENG, AUS, IND are prime examples and in recent times NZ also started doing this. On the other hand, Pakistan always goes with the full strength team even against ZIM.

Franchise cricket is getting more and more important for the players. Players such as Trent Boult have completely stopped playing international cricket outside the ICC tournaments. This has many positives as well as negatives. One of the positives is that younger players get a chance to represent their national sides, and this is very evident in the case of teams such as England and New Zealand. Also, there is no point for teams such as Australia to field their full-strength squads, against weaker teams such as West Indies or Sri Lanka.

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November 14, 2023, 03:10:27 AM
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The four teams that will play the semi-finals of the 2023 World Cup are fairly strong. India vs New Zealand will participate in the first semi-final, in this match I will put India ahead. Because India is in great form in the World Cup every Indian player is playing well. The second semi-final will be played between South Africa vs Australia and I will put Australia ahead in this match. Because there are some great batsmen like David Warner Maxwell who are doing great. I think we can see India and Australia in the final this time.
You are right, according to the current form India and Australia have a high chance of reaching the final. Australia performed very badly in the opening 2 matches of the World Cup resulting in losses, I thought Australia would be eliminated from the group stage. But Australia returned to form from 3 matches and won the next 7 matches. Although South Africa defeated Australia in the group stages, it will be difficult for South Africa to win against Australia in the semi-finals. New Zealand vs India will be played tomorrow, India will have more chances to win at home. New Zealand unfortunately failed to become champions after playing in the final twice in 2015 and 2019. I want South Africa and New Zealand to reach this year's final.
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November 14, 2023, 03:59:08 AM
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If India could win semis and final, they would rival the prime Australia back in 2003/'07, 11 wins consecutively.

Everybody knows Baber Azam is World Class player and he has same capability like Virat Kohli. And Shubman Gill is new batsman, there are few good days of Shubman Gill and after Babar Azam will gain his form and he will play excellently. Virat  Kohli is playing very good and he has capability to gain position first in all formats.In past, No Pakistani  player maintained first position like Babar Azam ,it is big work of Babar Azam . Pakistani team is at top in T20 farmat ,it is due to only Babar Azam.Babar Azam is very hard working man but he can't qualify his team to Semi final to due to bad luck .If umpire gave out last batsman against South Africa match , Pakistan could qualify for final. That was empire decision and that was Pakistani bad luck.

The way Pakistan played this WC, honestly they didn't deserve to be in semis — expensive bowlers, and once in a while good inning from their batters, and those two could be when they chased 344 of SL and Fakhar Zaman's inning against NZ.

I was in cricket hiatus for long before I started watching this WC, all I heard was Pakistan has good bowlers, is this what they had got?

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November 14, 2023, 04:20:24 AM
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If India could win semis and final, they would rival the prime Australia back in 2003/'07, 11 wins consecutively.

Rest assured that India will be the champion in the 2023 World Cup and will be the undefeated champion again. If India wins against New Zealand then rest assured against Australia/South Africa in the semi-final and India will become the champions of the 2023 World Cup. and would share Australia's 2003/2007 World Cup record of 11 consecutive victories.

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November 14, 2023, 04:30:23 AM
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Any idea on how much boost Hotstar received from the ongoing world cup in India? During the last 12 months, they have lost 23.7 million paid subscribers and that amounts to almost 40% of their subscriber base in India. A lot of the users seems to be shifting to JioCinema, after it brought the streaming rights for IPL. That said, many matches of this world cup, which is being streamed live on Hostar have witnessed record high audience count. The match between India and New Zealand for example clocked a massive 44 million concurrent users at its peak.

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November 14, 2023, 05:45:35 AM
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ICC rankings (White ball) are a joke and context matters most. The red ball ranking still has some juice in it.

Any Player and team can achieve a high ranking easily if they keep playing against 2nd string team, similar to Pakistan. They played a fair amount of ODI but top teams like NZ, AUS, ENG fielded their 2nd string team because at that time everyone's focus was on the Test series and IPL, also it was pandemic bubble time.

Another example is that you hardly see Big teams fielding their full strength team in bilateral. ENG, AUS, IND are prime examples and in recent times NZ also started doing this. On the other hand, Pakistan always goes with the full strength team even against ZIM.

Franchise cricket is getting more and more important for the players. Players such as Trent Boult have completely stopped playing international cricket outside the ICC tournaments. This has many positives as well as negatives. One of the positives is that younger players get a chance to represent their national sides, and this is very evident in the case of teams such as England and New Zealand. Also, there is no point for teams such as Australia to field their full-strength squads, against weaker teams such as West Indies or Sri Lanka.
Not only that, All Big Cricket boards have different priorities nowadays. They are following a rotation policy way too seriously, considering their packed schedule.

If we look at a yearly basis then after 2019 ODI WC, the Likes of Cummins, Starc, Bumrah, Shami, Sharma, Kohli, Root, Kane, Wood, Stokes etc played a handful of ODI cricket, some due to injuries and some schedules.

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