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November 15, 2023, 09:34:41 AM
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Rohit Sharma just gone after giving good start to Indian team, great catch from Williamson. Until he caught it actually, I thought he was gonna drop it.
Everyone expected Rohit to play slowly and sensibly today but he did the opposite as he has been throughout the World Cup. Another explosive inning by the captain of the Indian team felt sorry that he missed out on his half-century just by three runs. Gill and Kohli have to maintain the momentum that they got because of Rohit. A good start by the Indian team they need to have 300 runs or more to win today. Plenty of overs are left and India already nearing 100 runs in the 12th over with a run rate that is above 7.

Since Rohit is gone, Gill is playing aggressive than before, I think it's good team strategy to keep momentum going without giving pressure  to the new batter (that is if my assumption is correct).

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November 15, 2023, 09:35:39 AM
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Ohh my goodness, what's an amazing start!!!

If the Indian opening pair continues to bat like this, they will make 400 runs today. Indian batsman Rohit Sharma started today with his target of qualifying for the final. Maybe Rohit Sharma's dream is going to come true and there is a possibility of making it to the final.
India's openers Rohit Sharma and Shubman Gill had a strong early start. The way Rohit Sharma started the game looked like he was playing at T20 level. I'd say Rohit Sharma's bad luck for only 3 runs he didn't get a half century. Now Virat Kohli will try to build on the partnership of Shubman Gill to increase their team's score. Virat Kohli shubman Gill India's selectable batsman. If they can play a bit carefully both will score centuries. India's current score is 106 runs for 1 wicket in 13 overs. If Virat Kohli and Shubman Gill can form a big partnership then it seems that India's team score will be 400 runs.

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November 15, 2023, 09:39:35 AM
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There are reports out regarding the home team meddling with the pitches that are to be used in this match to be in their favor. They have new pitches available in this ground and yet they are using an used pitch that conducted two matches earlier in the league, both the times, the team batting first won by huge margin and India choose to bat in that same pitch, so not expecting any surprises.
It is not a huge surprise that the home team can chip in about the kind of pitch they wanted in the match, ICC will overlook on these selection process to make sure that the pitch is good enough for the match and there is no stipulation as per the rule book that a new pitch should be used for the semifinal or finals  Wink.

India off to a flying start and if they score anything below 350 then it is a disappointment with the kind of start they got from Rohit Sharma.
Not meddling with the pitch but they opted for a used pitch that was prepared for SA vs ENG. In the 2023 T-20 WC too (Aus), The organizers also used old pitches so you're correct, it's quite normal and there is no such thing as fresh pitches for the knockouts. One can go with a used or completely fresh pitch.

Folks are saying that it's a spin pitch but if the deck was rank turner then India would have gone with the 3 spinner and last i checked Ashwin is warming the bench.

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Another good knock from Brohit and he's only looking out for the Team's interest but I would not mind if he goes carefully with his business, especially after such a start and maybe try to stay on the crease for at least 20 overs.

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November 15, 2023, 09:46:23 AM
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Since Rohit is gone, Gill is playing aggressive than before, I think it's good team strategy to keep momentum going without giving pressure  to the new batter (that is if my assumption is correct).

He got his 50 and he will today get his first century in the World Cup. Both Kohli and Gill are playing well and they should the pitch look good for batting. They were saying that is friendly for spinners but I have not seen any turns for both Santner and Rachin. Both Indian batters till now are playing comfortably against the Kiwi spin attack. They both need to be on the pitch till India reaches 200 runs and then they should start taking risks. Till the spin attacks continuos they should try and rotate the strike and get the odd boundaries.

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November 15, 2023, 09:51:59 AM
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India off to a flying start and if they score anything below 350 then it is a disappointment with the kind of start they got from Rohit Sharma.

Despite losing the wicket of Rohit Sharma very quickly, the Indian team is now in a very good position. Rohit Sharma got off to a great start. He scored 47 runs off just 29 balls. Gill and Kohli have been consistent. India collected 132 runs in 17 overs. Shubman Gill scored 63 runs off 49 balls and Virat Kohli remained unbeaten on 19 runs off 24 balls. India's average collection is 7.76 per over. They are playing well. And if it continues like this it will give more than 350 targets very easily. Batting more than 300 targets on this pitch is very difficult to win. If New Zealand want to win today, they will have to score a record number of runs in the second innings on this Wankhede pitch.

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November 15, 2023, 09:55:06 AM
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Folks are saying that it's a spin pitch but if the deck was rank turner then India would have gone with the 3 spinner and last i checked Ashwin is warming the bench.

Ravichandran Ashwin have been warming the bench ever since the tournament started. IMO, he could have been included in the playing XI at least for the match against Netherlands, but the selectors decided against it. Apparently Kohli & Co. are biased against Ashwin and irrespective of whether there is any truth in these allegations or not, I don't think that he's being treated fairly. BTW, looking at the bowling from Rachin Ravindra and Mitchell Santner so far, I don't think that the pitch is offering any undue advantage for the spinners.

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November 15, 2023, 10:16:36 AM
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Folks are saying that it's a spin pitch but if the deck was rank turner then India would have gone with the 3 spinner and last i checked Ashwin is warming the bench.

Ravichandran Ashwin have been warming the bench ever since the tournament started. IMO, he could have been included in the playing XI at least for the match against Netherlands, but the selectors decided against it. Apparently Kohli & Co. are biased against Ashwin and irrespective of whether there is any truth in these allegations or not, I don't think that he's being treated fairly. BTW, looking at the bowling from Rachin Ravindra and Mitchell Santner so far, I don't think that the pitch is offering any undue advantage for the spinners.
I don't believe there is a conspiracy against Ashwin in this setup. Team is playing as a unit and the dressing room environment looks chill because no one seems to be unsecured and they are enjoying each other success. Having said that if the format was Test then there might be some truth to it but again in white ball cricket i don't see any discrimination against him and i am Ashwin's fan.

Yeah, one could argue that he could have played against the Dutch but again there is a counterargument, why do you want to change the winning combination in the first place?

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November 15, 2023, 10:25:17 AM
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Folks are saying that it's a spin pitch but if the deck was rank turner then India would have gone with the 3 spinner and last i checked Ashwin is warming the bench.
Ravichandran Ashwin have been warming the bench ever since the tournament started. IMO, he could have been included in the playing XI at least for the match against Netherlands, but the selectors decided against it. Apparently Kohli & Co. are biased against Ashwin and irrespective of whether there is any truth in these allegations or not, I don't think that he's being treated fairly. BTW, looking at the bowling from Rachin Ravindra and Mitchell Santner so far, I don't think that the pitch is offering any undue advantage for the spinners.

Ravichandran Ashwin might have been given a chance. He is a very experienced player. But the Indian squad has been consistently performing well. So there was no need for them to bring changes in the squad. If Ravichandran Ashwin did not perform well after making changes in the squad, the Indian board would have faced criticism.

Like in previous matches, India's top order played very well today. Rohit Sharma got off to a devastating start. And now the Kohli-Gill duo is batting very carefully. The way things are going in India they will be able to collect more than 350 very easily.

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Rohit Sharma just gone after giving good start to Indian team, great catch from Williamson. Until he caught it actually, I thought he was gonna drop it.
Everyone expected Rohit to play slowly and sensibly today but he did the opposite as he has been throughout the World Cup. Another explosive inning by the captain of the Indian team felt sorry that he missed out on his half-century just by three runs. Gill and Kohli have to maintain the momentum that they got because of Rohit. A good start by the Indian team they need to have 300 runs or more to win today. Plenty of overs are left and India already nearing 100 runs in the 12th over with a run rate that is above 7.

Since Rohit is gone, Gill is playing aggressive than before, I think it's good team strategy to keep momentum going without giving pressure  to the new batter (that is if my assumption is correct).
Shubman Gill retred hurt out ...
All in all India is performing very well especially on this pitch winning the toss and deciding to bat first is very good. However, if the fog falls in the second innings, it will become very easy to bat and it will become challenging for the Indian bowlers. So, India should perform well in the first innings and lead by runs. Virat Kohli and Shryas Iyer are batting with that in mind.

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Yeah, one could argue that he could have played against the Dutch but again there is a counterargument, why do you want to change the winning combination in the first place?

Well... it is not about changing the winning combination. I would have expected the Indians to rest some of their bowlers. What about resting two of the bowlers and including Ravichandran Ashwin and Prasidh Krishna instead? If you check Australia's last match, they did the same. For their last group stage match (against Bangladesh), they included Sean Abbott instead of Mitchell Starc. I would say that this would have been helpful, given the fact that some of the Indian bowlers have suffered from injury issues recently (such as Jasprit Bumrah).

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Are we going to see another four hundred runs innings? It does seems like that for now. 197 runs from 28 overs by losing only one wicket is just superb innings from team India. I am expecting 400 runs from them in this innings. They might end up scoring more than that. It won't be easy for New Zealand bowlers to restrict India below 400 if they cannot create any pressure!

I do not see any pressure from New Zealand bowlers as it seems like an ordinary wicket for batters. It's amazing how Indian batters face world-class bowling line up. Let's see where they end today.
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200 comes up for India in the 29th over, 72nd half century done for Kohli. 21 more overs left to bat, can India get to 400 runs? Possible if they start scoring at a run rate of 10 runs per over.

Bad news Shubhman Gill who was playing so good retired hurt. For now there isn't any update about his injury. He was batting very well and had scored 75 runs. He needed 25 more runs to get to his first World Cup century. It would great if he comes back and bat again.

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200 comes up for India in the 29th over, 72nd half century done for Kohli. 21 more overs left to bat, can India get to 400 runs? Possible if they start scoring at a run rate of 10 runs per over.

Bad news Shubhman Gill who was playing so good retired hurt. For now there isn't any update about his injury. He was batting very well and had scored 75 runs. He needed 25 more runs to get to his first World Cup century. It would great if he comes back and bat again.

400 looked possible around 10 overs ago, but now it is going to be somewhere around 350-400. The New Zealand spinners have done a decent job in bringing down the run-rate, but in order to win the match they need to take wickets urgently. If Shreyas Iyer remains there, then it is going to be a huge threat for the Kiwis. We have seen during the previous matches how destructive he can be during the end overs. And India has plenty of batting to come down the order, including KL Rahul, Suryakumar Yadav and Ravindra Jadeja.

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200 comes up for India in the 29th over, 72nd half century done for Kohli. 21 more overs left to bat, can India get to 400 runs? Possible if they start scoring at a run rate of 10 runs per over.

Bad news Shubhman Gill who was playing so good retired hurt. For now there isn't any update about his injury. He was batting very well and had scored 75 runs. He needed 25 more runs to get to his first World Cup century. It would great if he comes back and bat again.

The way India's batsmen are batting now, I won't be surprised at all if they score 400 runs. At the end of 30 overs, India collected 214 runs. Although Virat Kohli was batting slowly in the beginning, now he is batting aggressively. Kohli scored 65 runs off 71 balls and Iyer collected 19 runs off 15 balls. As every batsman in the Indian squad is in very good form, no batsman is under any pressure to bat now. The team has lost just one wicket and I will say India will win today's match for sure and they will win by at least 100 runs. If the target was less than 300, the match would have been competitive. But I don't see any possibility of this match being competitive now. The match is completely under India's control now.

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200 comes up for India in the 29th over, 72nd half century done for Kohli. 21 more overs left to bat, can India get to 400 runs? Possible if they start scoring at a run rate of 10 runs per over.

Bad news Shubhman Gill who was playing so good retired hurt. For now there isn't any update about his injury. He was batting very well and had scored 75 runs. He needed 25 more runs to get to his first World Cup century. It would great if he comes back and bat again.

The way India's batsmen are batting now, I won't be surprised at all if they score 400 runs. At the end of 30 overs, India collected 214 runs. Although Virat Kohli was batting slowly in the beginning, now he is batting aggressively. Kohli scored 65 runs off 71 balls and Iyer collected 19 runs off 15 balls. As every batsman in the Indian squad is in very good form, no batsman is under any pressure to bat now. The team has lost just one wicket and I will say India will win today's match for sure and they will win by at least 100 runs. If the target was less than 300, the match would have been competitive. But I don't see any possibility of this match being competitive now. The match is completely under India's control now.
Today, India is batting aggressively from the very beginning.Rohit Sharma has been the most aggressive batting for India since the beginning.Shubman Gill unfortunately retired hard today otherwise he would have completed his century today.Today India's batting is playing well and they are scoring runs quickly as a result of which India have scored 226 runs in just 31.3 overs.The way India are scoring runs now will surely get 400 runs.If the Indian bowlers can bowl properly and maintain the line length, they will definitely win against New Zealand today and become the first team to reach the final in this World Cup.

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200 comes up for India in the 29th over, 72nd half century done for Kohli. 21 more overs left to bat, can India get to 400 runs? Possible if they start scoring at a run rate of 10 runs per over.
Bad news Shubhman Gill who was playing so good retired hurt. For now there isn't any update about his injury. He was batting very well and had scored 75 runs. He needed 25 more runs to get to his first World Cup century. It would great if he comes back and bat again.
The way India's batsmen are batting now, I won't be surprised at all if they score 400 runs. At the end of 30 overs, India collected 214 runs. Although Virat Kohli was batting slowly in the beginning, now he is batting aggressively. Kohli scored 65 runs off 71 balls and Iyer collected 19 runs off 15 balls. As every batsman in the Indian squad is in very good form, no batsman is under any pressure to bat now. The team has lost just one wicket and I will say India will win today's match for sure and they will win by at least 100 runs. If the target was less than 300, the match would have been competitive. But I don't see any possibility of this match being competitive now. The match is completely under India's control now.
Today, India is batting aggressively from the very beginning.Rohit Sharma has been the most aggressive batting for India since the beginning.Shubman Gill unfortunately retired hard today otherwise he would have completed his century today.Today India's batting is playing well and they are scoring runs quickly as a result of which India have scored 226 runs in just 31.3 overs.The way India are scoring runs now will surely get 400 runs.If the Indian bowlers can bowl properly and maintain the line length, they will definitely win against New Zealand today and become the first team to reach the final in this World Cup.

Right now I see no chance of New Zealand winning. First of all, it is very difficult to bat well in the second innings on this pitch. India team was lucky so they won the toss and got to bat first. 2nd India won't settle for less than 400 today. India lost only two batsmen. Shubman Gill is not out. He is out of the field due to retired hurt. Iyer and Kohli are batting very well. India has collected 270 runs in 37 overs. They can score at least 100+ runs in 13 overs. Even if the target is around 370, New Zealand will not win this target unless a miracle happens. Moreover, Indian bowlers are also in very good form. India will win today by a big margin.

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November 15, 2023, 11:58:53 AM
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The 50th century of King Kohli came in a knockout game of the World Cup. This is why he is called the GOAT of the ODI, the number of innings he took to reach the 50th century is far less than Sachin Tendulkar's 49th record. Many more innings still left for him to play because of his fitness. After his dismissal, Shreya Iyer is now hitting the ball only for sixes and has already reached his 90s. Another century in the making for Shreyas Iyer and India has already scored 342 runs. They have four more overs left to bat and the way Iyer is batting India might be able to reach 400 runs. This semifinal is slowly going out of the hands of the New Zealand team. It wont be easy for them the New Zealand batter to chase any target which is more than 380 runs.

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November 15, 2023, 12:02:01 PM
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200 comes up for India in the 29th over, 72nd half century done for Kohli. 21 more overs left to bat, can India get to 400 runs? Possible if they start scoring at a run rate of 10 runs per over.

Bad news Shubhman Gill who was playing so good retired hurt. For now there isn't any update about his injury. He was batting very well and had scored 75 runs. He needed 25 more runs to get to his first World Cup century. It would great if he comes back and bat again.

The way India's batsmen are batting now, I won't be surprised at all if they score 400 runs. At the end of 30 overs, India collected 214 runs. Although Virat Kohli was batting slowly in the beginning, now he is batting aggressively. Kohli scored 65 runs off 71 balls and Iyer collected 19 runs off 15 balls. As every batsman in the Indian squad is in very good form, no batsman is under any pressure to bat now. The team has lost just one wicket and I will say India will win today's match for sure and they will win by at least 100 runs. If the target was less than 300, the match would have been competitive. But I don't see any possibility of this match being competitive now. The match is completely under India's control now.
Today, India is batting aggressively from the very beginning.Rohit Sharma has been the most aggressive batting for India since the beginning.Shubman Gill unfortunately retired hard today otherwise he would have completed his century today.Today India's batting is playing well and they are scoring runs quickly as a result of which India have scored 226 runs in just 31.3 overs.The way India are scoring runs now will surely get 400 runs.If the Indian bowlers can bowl properly and maintain the line length, they will definitely win against New Zealand today and become the first team to reach the final in this World Cup.
India batting performance is outstanding in first semifinal against New Zealand. Virat kholi made his 50th hundred in ODI. Amazing batting performances Virat kholi scored 117 runs in 113 balls what a batting performance by India 341 in loss of only 2 wickets in 46 overs. Shreyas Iyer is playing at 90 runs not out in only 62 balls, just 10 runs short from another outstanding hundred. New Zealand bowlers poor performance tim southee a successful bowling who picked up 2 wicket by giving 73 runs in 8 overs. The 150 plus runs partnership between Virat kholi and Shreyas Iyer will helped india to post a big total. Now India will cross 420 plus runs a big total for New Zealand.



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November 15, 2023, 12:02:55 PM
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Rohit Sharma just gone after giving good start to Indian team, great catch from Williamson. Until he caught it actually, I thought he was gonna drop it.
Everyone expected Rohit to play slowly and sensibly today but he did the opposite as he has been throughout the World Cup. Another explosive inning by the captain of the Indian team felt sorry that he missed out on his half-century just by three runs. Gill and Kohli have to maintain the momentum that they got because of Rohit. A good start by the Indian team they need to have 300 runs or more to win today. Plenty of overs are left and India already nearing 100 runs in the 12th over with a run rate that is above 7.

Since Rohit is gone, Gill is playing aggressive than before, I think it's good team strategy to keep momentum going without giving pressure  to the new batter (that is if my assumption is correct).

At this time, the 35 overs were passed away, and the partnership of Virat Kohli and Shreyas Iyer is big one. The original partnership started with Shubman Gill but unfortunately, he is retired hurt and he is not able to continue his innings. That was the biggest loss for India and himself because he was too close to a century and he is also very main player for India.
The best opener of India has played their part, now middle order batsman starting to end the innings. I think this is not the best opening not  only for India, this is the best opening  in this entire World Cup.
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November 15, 2023, 12:03:50 PM
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Who else thinks that Virat was desperately looking for another Ton which is why he was playing slowly compared to other batters? It's not a pitch to play with a 100-strike rate. Virat's strike rate was below a hundred even after he completed his century. Sometimes these personal achievements affect the team. Virat could have batted better than how he played today.

This is a pitch where everyone expecting a 400 run innings from team India. But as I said, Virat was playing for his personal achivement and not for the team. I hate it when players play for the personal achivements!
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